I was an AMF 82/70 mechanic for 15 years...never had the opportunity to learn these fine machines....But I can NEVER get enough of the sound the A2 makes when the pins drop from the turret into the deck....I love it.
I worked on these machines when I was in high school at Randolph air force base.I was young and loved the machinery. You're right they were therapy, I could sleep on the top board Of the machine while Babysitting for stuck balls
I'm a "never was" bowler who's having the time of my life learning all about the workings of a bowling alley. Thanks for uploading these crystal clear videos.
I haven't set foot in the back end of my uncle's house near me in 35 years, but I still remember every bolt; every X-washer. He finally sold it last year after 34 years.
If you're not interested of being a Bowler, then you're not a true Bowling Mechanic, just a simple Pinsetter Mechanic. I'm always interested of being a Bowling Mechanic while continuing my passion for the Competitive Sport of Bowling. In my opinion that a Bowling Mechanic is a person that works for Bowling as a mechanic and plays Bowling as a Competitive Sport as a League or Professional Bowler with his own Bowling Balls and Shoes. You know, Work Hard Play Hard. And in the end, those people can do both a mechanic and a bowler, they're the ones will earn money twice than usual when combining both payed from work and rewarded after a tournament.
I'd always assumed that the pins that came down after you've had your go and the pins reset were the same set of pins. I never realised that there was a spare set ready to be dropped and used while the others were being organised into the holes and prepared. It's an ingeneous piece of kit. Never realised it was so complicated.
Demonmixer. Yes there are 20 pins in each machine. 22 pins in the G.S. series. This is the Brunswick A with A/2 kit. The A/2 is basically the undated version of this machine made available in 1958. There are 2000 moving parts on these machines.
Loved it. Shows all the essential stuff of these beautiful machines on which I worked for 4 years. I really miss them. P. S.: you might want to change that lower turret clutch conveyor belt gear.
Matthias Fröhlich.. Thanks for watching.. Glad you like it.. These turrets jst whine its better left alone one it warms up it quits.. Or if they set too long ruung w/o cycling.. And some never whine??..
icreateapple.. Glad you like pinsetters.. Thank you for watching.. I have more videos bout this machine and the Brunswick GS-98.. We have 26 A-A2 machines..and 6 GS-98 machines..
I remember that high pitched whine from my old hometown lanes in Merrick, NY (Meroke Lanes). Was unique for a bowling alley on Long Island because it was two levels. Guess they were using Brunswick A's!
Daniel G... LOL.. I love it too..nothing sounds like an A/A2 pinsetter.. I have a few more videos you mite like..my video ( phone endangerment ) is kinda kool.. Thanks for watching Daniel..
It's simply magic. As a child I didn't know anything but Brunswick's A pinsetter, since our local bowling center had those. It's strange but these sounds, the way this machine works, I could watch it all day :D
And yeah, this belt whining, it's so specific for these pinsetters. Remember as a child comming to the bowling center in the morning, hearing this sound for the first half an hour after switching the lane on xD
Daniel G... OMG.. Me too.. I have always loved pinsetters..l grew up in a bowling alley..lv always had an extreme fascination with these machines..l could also watch them all day..
awesome video but something I noticed at the start of the video, that sweeper came down HARD after the first shot, I know this video is 2 years old and I'm sure you noticed it by now but that looks like it could wear out the A2 quicker.
The rake is dropping harder because we have the rake release hooked up.. The ball is hitting the pit cushion..that drops the rake.. Most bowling alleys dont use the rake releases because of ball detect devices..
Back in the mid 70' I started as a chaser then moved to night mechanic on the old A1's these machines they neglected and were always leaking gear oil from the gear boxes, we actually put womens napkins on the oil pan.. But you could hear the machines and just know something was not right.. I worked one of my days on a Saturday and used to go in the back when girls were bowling we would put notes in the finger hole and send it back.. It was a good time, I mad min wage of $2.75hr..lol
Hello Furby Gaming.. I did this video where l work as a mechanic.. I have a few other videos bout pinsetters on my channel..this is the Brunswick A/A2..and l have a few video bout the Brunswick GS-98.. Thank you for taking time to watch my video..
@@andynorvell4953 What makes an A into an A2? Is it more than the collapsable arm on the rake cam shaft? I worked in my uncle's center from '81 to '86, and we were told they were reconditioned A's: no collapsable rake cam shaft, cushion triggering was replaced with pivoting cushions and microswitches. Later converted to electronic scoring with infrared triggering after I left.
@@netdoctor1 .. Yes its more than that..its actually quite a bit..its been a long time sense lv done any work on a straight A.. The curtain and pit cushion are different..the internal ball return track is different along with the lift rods.. Ours are still have A internal ball track and lift rods..
@Andy Norvell You guys shouldn’t have 6 Duckpin Lanes in the first place. Besides that kind of sport is gonna die out anyways and it’s impossible for a 300 Game on that game, even with all the Flying Pins.
Nintendo Bowler GS98 are in the same line as the GS-X. Those are ten pin machines, not duck pin. The most common (if only???) pinsetter for ducks in the Sherman.
Bowling Mechanics. Listen, before those 6 Lanes were Ten Pins, they were Duckpins before, so they decided to get rid of the Duckpins (since there getting old) and had all lanes being Ten Pins. Since the A’s, Jetbacks and A2’s were no longer being develop (well except for Spare Parts), they decided to go with the GS Pinsetters and I don’t know why they choose the GS-98 instead of the GSX.
Nintendo Bowler Oh sorry you said that they shouldn’t have 6 duck pin lanes... did you mean that they shouldn’t have had 6 duck pin lanes? It may have just been a grammatical misunderstanding. But your other comment makes sense, thanks!!
Yeremia Patuan.. Yes they were made available in 1952.. Then they developed the ( A-2 ) in 1958.. These are the ( A ) mods with the ( A-2 ) conversion kit..
Yeremia Patuan.. Yes a very reliable machine.. They will be round and still running long after Im gone.. We jst replace parts they still make the parts along with a few aftermarket innovations..
@@andynorvell4953 thank you for the awesome behind the scenes content. A re-spot video on the GS machines would be cool. If you ever get the chance. I know the job doesn't allow much time for video.
ThinkCleverAndSmart. That is the power box to the machine. Is has breaker. Time delay. Motor contractors. And supplies power to reset solenoid magnetic clutch for pinwheel. And motor to power machine.
Prefer the Brunswick A2's over the AMF 82-70's. Freakin AMF's always jamming and constant stoppages while the A2's just keep on trucking. Not even off spot pins will jam these.
@@exoticcar5482 The shake pits are easier to work on you can go in fix what you need get out all within 20 min where on straight belts its 1 hr minimum just to access underneath the belt
8270s can run stop free if properly maintained....I worked an 82/70 house for 15 years and they ran great if they are taken care of....I have bowled in several A2 centers and the machines sounded like they were going to fly apart (shaker board noise) and several stops and complete break downs and an off spot pin can and will jam an A2 and I believe it will shut the machine off...I have seen it several times....where as an off spot pin on an 8270 will just reverse the table and leave the sweep down until the mechanic clears the dead wood and reverses the sweep back up.....I am not disrespecting you or the A2, as I have also bowled in several A2 centers that ran great...The A2 is a fine machine and I would love to learn more about how they work......It's not so much the machine ...as it is the staff maintaining them.
Switch Bowling.. That is the turret clutch.. On some of these machines these clutches will whine if they set running too long w/o cycling..or they get a little clutch dust in them..we jst spray them out with brake cleaner..
the bowling alley in my home town must have these, they have the exact same whine. always wondered what it was. even after walking in the place after 1x years it had the exact same sound. thank you for the explanation for it!!!
The deck hook prevents the deck from moving downward during the second ball cycle..cause if the deck were to move downward during second ball the deck would shift and set pins..sweep then go into a 180stop to wait for more pins.. There are two deck hooks..the other prevents the deck from going to the floor during first ball cycle while detecting pins.. The difference between first and second ball cycle is.. First ball the deck lowers to detect any standing pins..if the deck lowers far enough the scissors will be blocked out the machine will go to second ball cycle sweep go into a 180 then set a new rack of pins.. If standing pins are detected the scissors will close lifting any standing pins sweep away deadwood then respot pins for spare shot.. There is a detector rod hooked to back of the deck that links to a detector box..the more the link is pulled the further that link turns a slotted wheel..kinda like a sprocket..depending where on that wheel the detector locks out indicates a strike or not..
@@andynorvell4953 Thank you very much, Andy! There is one more thing, I was often wondering about concerning A2: Why are there so many different speeds for rake dropping, deck lowering, etc., after the ball has reached the pit? (I don´t mean the overall speed, I know that there are different speeds for A, Jetback and A-2 machines). I mean, when I watch different alleys, some times the deck needs very long for checking for pins, sometimes this time is very short. Also, sometimes the rake drops directly for both 1st and 2nd ball (seems to be the regular behavoir for A-2s). In other cases, the rake drops directly only on 2nd ball, while on 1st ball, the rake comes down quite late, along with the deck. You don´t see such differences for, e.g., GSX or for AMF pinspotters. I always wonder, when watching PBA tournaments, that late messengers on a 10 pin wouldn´t have happened on certain A-2 machines due to short deck lowering times. Thank you!
The original "A" machine had a 90 degree overtravel, very dangerous, to speed up 2nd ball cycling. The deck hook prevented the deck from decending during this.
@@andynorvell4953 ah ok. I also noticed in your brunswick A/A2 pin delivery video, when you cycled the machine with the solenoid, the rake wouldn’t drop until a few seconds after you used it, why is that?
Very good question.. The reason the rake delayed dropping is because l used the solenoid.. If it resets from a ball impact on the pit cushion the rake will drop apon impact..the ball impact will release the rake by the rake release..then you will notice bout a 2-2.5 second delay before the machine actually cycles..
You can also disable the rake release..in which some mechanics do.. either because of out of time machines or scoring problems.. especially on the older AMF Boss scoring..because the rake board can block the camera view..
