Could someone tell Mr. Pontrue the following opinions by some admirers of the brand. (1) Bring back the decorated movements and the sapphire caseback to entry-level pieces. (2) the ecological box is too simple and low quality for the price. Please, keep the traditional wooden box. (3) I know you are doing great in the Asian market, but this is not reason to reduce quality and raise prices. Charging 12 K USD for a watch with a very basic caliber doesn’t seem right. (4) water resistance is in the DNA of the brand. Please, don’t forget that.
1.) Panerai is never known for movt decoration. Have you seen the Unitas being decorated in either the pre Vendome models or the 0xx to 3xx movements? Sure the Brooklyn Bridge was a new low by Bonati taking the lowest end unfinished movement into a boutique edition... but finishing is never the DNA of Panerai 2.) No comments about the boxes and packaging 3.) Base caliber isn't the issue at hand. Panerai is using "in house movement" to force customers to go back to them for servicing. The old Ristis would rarely send any of their watch back to richemont because watchmakers are able to obtain parts for most of these pre Vendome and older models. 4.) The snap on vs screwed in caseback discussion is a true financial move... kind of funny when you see how these media in richemont's pockets are defending the move 😂 The Ristis were a hard-core community, yet Panerai managed to burn away all the goodwill and is now just a brand among other brands, nothing special.
@@WatchAdvisor delivering margins could come from other avenues, besides making your watches less water resistant. Since Panerai isn't paying me to be their cost reduction analyst, let me mention one way they could do that, I'd even make it worthwhile without any headcount reduction: it's as easy as reviewing the marketing expense in each boutique, commonizing expense items like champange, whiskey, even mineral water into a single contract where the volume would allow further discounting
I think that the problem arises from the approach to the challenge of selling more. Guys, I'm the biggest fan, but please let's not forget the roots of our success. Authenticity is key.
When a company stops decorating it’s movements, removing functionality and providing no more display cases you know costs are being cut yet this is not reflected in the price, therefore people feel completely conned with the new watches and in turn the company have made is extremely easy for the fakes to get dangerously close to exact which is devaluing the watches. This CEO is responsible for all of these moves. When you devalue a brand like this, it is destructive behaviour.
@@WatchAdvisor I did, I love the watches personally but one would be stupid to ignore the changes that have been made and not for the better, not for the customer, but for pure greed. When that happens the product suffers, the customer suffers, the brand suffers and the CEO grabs a load of cash like a bank robber. This isn't new, it's happened to other brands it's just unfortunate that this CEO cannot see past his own greed.
@@ragetobe You're letting your emotions take over. And although I too tire of the Covid excuse, the fact is many companies around this time started to find ways to cut costs. Apparently, with things normalized over the past year plus, they're starting to go back to the standard they're used to in terms of decoration.
@@PeteNice29 If watches don't invoke emotions in you then why even bother. And I am fully in control of my emotions, what I don't like is bait and switch, ie: providing a lifetime of legend and backstory only to have it cheapened by a greedy CEO shaving corners to line his pockets. By the way, we are not talking about shaving a few £s off, we are talking about saving thousands in the making of the watch but charging the same or even more in some cases for the watch.
The all over quality has dramatically been increased, the mechanical quality and accuracy of the calibres is better than ever... decoration could be better though. Panerai knows that its customers aren't satisfied with it and there will be changes to a better finish made soon...
For some here, no matter what PANERAI does or doesn't do, it just isn't good enough. There sure are a lot of armchair CEO's etc. who seem to have an immediate answer and split-second reaction and fix time for everything that hits PANERAI. Many of you should put your keyboards to action and apply to PANERAI. I bet your tune changes to a different song.
@@WatchAdvisor Armchair CEO? Amusing. I am a consumer who liked what Panerai used to be and the timepieces they produced. Their current green-washing approach while removing features left and right (sometimes unannounced) from their products combined with a CEO who lacks passion for the industry he is in puts me off of the brand entirely. The last thing I would do would be to apply to work for him. Funny suggestion though - I'm sure you'd get hired right away with the biased response!
I think the secret to Panerai is to be selective and buy the older pieces with the best movements. The new stuff looks cool for sure, but they give you a lot less on functionality.
Bearing in mind its heritage is from the Italian Navy, the purpose for the divers/commandos would not require them to go below 30 meters. 50 meters at the most. Put it this way, if you wanted to place a mine on the hull of a ship, you wouldn’t need to dive to 300 meters. Panerai are just sticking to their heritage which is part of their story. All praise to them❤️🙏
Just LOVE this kind of interview! A discussion between gentlemen of a brand that speaks to me more and more with no pretension and just the facts and anecdotes. Well done!
I've been preparing myself to buy a Panerai Radiomir to be a companion to two Luminor pieces that I already own. So, I've been monitoring the retail prices. In this very same week, Panerai just raised all the prices of their pieces. Some pieces had their prices raised in 20%. There is no reasonable explanation for that. What I think. The business executives of the brand want to achieve results and escalate higher positions in the Richemont group. The way to do that is to deliver higher profit margins to the Group. For the amount of money that I intend to spend on a watch, I am much more inclined to buy an IWC right now. Even before this recent price elevation, some friends of mine told me not to spend money on Panerai for rational reasons. Panerai is about "passione" and "cuore". However, I am passionate and not a fool.
Got my first 1392. I wear it on a black/orange/miami blue strap and the looks I get are like none I ever got on my Rolexes! Panerai is a special watch, Rolex is too common!
For some here, no matter what PANERAI does or doesn't do, it just isn't good enough. There sure are a lot of armchair CEO's etc. who seem to have an immediate answer and split-second reaction and fix time for everything that hits PANERAI. Many of you should put your keyboards to action and apply to PANERAI. I bet your tune changes to a different song.
@@WatchAdvisor See, I have a very personal relationship with Panerai watches and it is not nice to see this liquidation of Panerai history and heritage taking place just to sell a few pieces more and improve your balance sheet. Imagine Tesla Motors building diesel engines next year, that is the direction of Panerai today.
@@WatchAdvisor It's pretty simple, Panerai is charging for a PAM1316 (with steel bracelet) 9.700 Euros, Omega is charging for an Aqua Terra 6.700 Euros, Rolex is charging for a Datejust 8.000 Euros. Considering the downgraded 9010 movement with even NO COSC, NO hacking seconds or anything and the average low cost finishing of Panerai (watch and movement), where is the justification for the price?
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I just bought the 1348 (the blue one). It's a great looking watch, the "gunmetal grey" case just works, and surprisingly it is not as big as I expected. It feels smaller than my 44mm 111 which I've had for 15 years and also smaller than my 44mm grey eSteel submersible that I bought last year. Very wearable and looks great on the wrist. I'm a fan...but will experiment a bit with straps. I might want something different than the blue strap even though it's very nice; between the blue dial and strap it's just a LOT of blue, so I'll try some other strap options. But overall I'm super happy with the watch.
I became impressed with Panerai watches several years ago as I observed members of my auto club wearing them and noticed how elegant the watches appear on their wrist in this particular setting. Panerai’s and Alfa Romeo’s complement each other well. I bought a pre-owned PAM 605 during 2021 and now would like to add a new Panerai but haven’t decided on a model.
@@WatchAdvisor I’ve been a real Alfisti since 1994 when my wife and bought a new 164. Since then we have owned a ‘87 Milano, 2018 Giulia 🍀and a ‘70 GTV.
Impressive! Un cuore sportivo! I by the way quite successfully participate in Oldtimer Rallyes with the Alfa Romeo Giulia Carabinieri from 1972. An authentic Carabinieri Giulia we found an rebuilt ... Outside Italy this is the only one in private hands ... the pictures were taken at the "Kitzbühler Alpenrallye" alpenrallye.at/galerie-2020/
Many more of us "Panerista" since on January 19, 2022 a Panerai Radiomir PAM210 was worn during a 7 hours long spacewalk by cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov ! #MoonwatchUniverse
Panerai is 1 of my favourite brands but has completely lost my interest with the releases over the past few years. I’m sure I’m speaking for many or most true PAM collectors.
Seems like Panerai is trying something new, but I don't understand the idea behind having high prices and complicated prices. I always thought about Panerai as the tried and tested sports watch for every occasion and not a precious metal perpetual calendar.
@@WatchAdvisor agree, it is a sound logical idea. But I don’t if anyone would buy a Panerai PC instead of an IWC or a JLC one in that price range, maybe an Italian watch collector, or a person with extra big wrists 🤔 thanks Alexander for the video 👍🏽
Compare these bold watches featuring complications with the top luxury SUVs … the latter aren’t the real 4x4 off-road cars either… and still they are extremely successful…
@@WatchAdvisor Only time will tell, I wish Panerai all the best, but I am not betting on their success. Maybe a return to the basics, offering affordable watches for the masses would be the next step if this move doesn't work.
What is your personal history with Panerai that leads you to make such statements? Just a quick rant, a little mental hygiene and then hiding behind a fantasy name again ... that's not really classy...
Panerai has the ability to include a power reserve on the back of this movement yet they choose not to. Look up the PAM796. Modern day Panerai finds a way to cut corners on every new watch they release.
@@Surfkid16 I like PR indicator a lot as it's a part of the fun to watch it moves and it's also informative. They had a lot of old models with a PR indicator on the back, not only the 8 days one, but many 3 days one, such as their last year's release of the Perpetual Calendar, but they did not include it in this annual calendar, otherwise I will pull the trigger to buy it.
Until there will be no official explanation about their lies with the Brooklyn , the P 9001 I think where they said that it is in house and was an eta which was visible through case back, and after they darkened the glass and the white ceramic 70.000 euro watch with a simple stamped bridge I don't think that the company will have credit. Reminder, I am a die hard Panerai fan though.
@@WatchAdvisorI wonder if the brand ever admitted and apologized for the misinformation? I’m a proud owner of Luminor, bought new from AD. I just want the brand to do the right thing so more people can appreciate their watches like I do.
@@WatchAdvisor Because the drones in the chat rooms keep harping on about the one or two things they actually know about. Apparently "scandals" that most people really don't care about is still big news.
Panerai owe you a watch!! *With your years of coverage and dedication to the brand. **Will never buy recycled products because they don’t offer a net benefit, in fact the opposite (uses more energy).
As a Panerai fan, I’m extremely disappointed in the moves the company has been making of late. Let’s start with the movements. They went from the 9000 movement which had a hacking seconds feature to the 900 which does not. This is unacceptable. They were headed in the right direction with the 9000 movements and the 1950 slimmer cases, but they have completely deviated in the wrong way. They have also put out these snap-on cases that have cheapen the brand. To be considered a true sports watch brand, your cases should be at least 100m waterproof. 50m waterproofing for a luminor due is garbage. I’ve owned both Luminor and Radiomir and consider them compelling in style and functionality before these stupid changes. I gave my son a PAM1058 which he truly loves. That watch, however, has the better movement. I’ve even visited the original Panerai shop in Florence, Italy, which is quite the boutique if anyone is visiting the city. I would love to buy a submersible but not with the current movement. Hopefully, some positive changes are coming.
Please do also watch our other Panerai videos to learn/uberstand that many things are going to change in the near future… this means that Panerai listens / listened…
Another approach to PR indicator which Panerai has used in the past is to put the indicator on the movement side of the watch...that still keeps the dial side nice and clean.
So I love your videos. But you have to question some things a bit more critically. Even when you're talking to a CEO. Maybe just then! Sure I would like a clean dial on Panerai hostoric models but why not a power reserve indicator on the back and a glass back? As we have already shown in many other Panerai watches. I think it's an excuse to save money but still raise prices. It is unfortunately more and more about increasing the profit every year. But that's more down to the Richemont corporation.
@@WatchAdvisor I can understand that. You also want to be allowed to interview the CEO one more time. But I think you could have done it with a little smile and a wink. Otherwise great work, thank you very much for your efforts.
On January 19, 2022 a Panarai Radiomir PAM210 was worn during a 7 hours long spacewalk by cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov , tough tool watch !!! #MoonwatchUniverse
@@WatchAdvisor I missed that part Alexander thanks for giving the right info. I still think for such a pile of money you have 50 m? you just can wash your hands to care of your expensive PAM. Nivada Grenchen is giving more WR with the minipanerai aka Pacman! My two cents...
Hi Alexander, Thank you for having these videos available. Now I have a Panerai because of you. :) I have had to save some money since then. I have a quick question. My watch is a PAM01005 from 2018 and is in good condition. Everybody is talking about the movements and parts of Panerai. What do you think about my watch? Do you think it has quality movements, parts, etc.? Many thanks for your answer in advance...
@@WatchAdvisor :) Thanks a lot for the quick response… I feel privileged to have such a watch… I sensed that this is like my first steps into this world. :) I hope one day I can visit their site like you did and observed how these watches are made… Warm regards from Liverpool 😊
I’ve been at the Panerai website for the past 2 months looking for my next watch. When I went there today I noticed that they raised their prices by $400-$500. Their cheapest Luminor was selling for $5700. Now it is selling for over 6K. 😢
I'm so happy Radiomir is getting desperately needed attention. A Radiomir reignited my passion for watches when I forgot it some years ago. Panerai has been dear to me ever since. The only criticism I have the imagination to direct toward Panerai is that the quick release strap on the Razer collaboration piece was really squeeky when I handled one. Never thought I'd have the chance.
@@WatchAdvisor the cushion case and wire lugs were such a novelty to me at the start because I didn't know the history for context. My favorite bit is that for a 45mm case, if it is on the larger size for a given wrist the case catches the eye the most and the scale can still work. With the new Quaranta I found it is a touch slight for me, but the wire lugs present a bit more and fill up the space over the wrist. Both of them offer a lot of flexibility in wear in my opinion as a result. Radiomirs are magical for me. I prefer them to Luminors but I can't imagine I have much company.
@@WatchAdvisor I have on a few occasions. Recently I got to try the Radiomir Quaranta in Goldtech, the blue and grey Tre Giorni models, as well as a Black Seal logo and a host of Luminors. All enjoyable. The hue and saturation of the gold tech is a gorgeous take on red gold. I'm holding my breath for an Otto Giorni but I think I may prefer the tan dial Tre Giorni for my first Panerai. I have waited a long time for one.
If I may share an advice ... If you can ... try them all on your wrist and compare them 1:1 in different light conditions... then let your heart decide, it won't lie...
I'm a big fan of Panerai but I have to say, they completely lost the ground. I do understand that things become more expensive but an average Panerai (Luminor Marina Automaitc for example) is worth half the money of the (list) price tag. That's a fact (to me), does anybody still buy a new Panerai for these prices?!?
Hello Alexander, one little thing: here in Mexico through my trusted authorized dealer (which is Peyrelongue Mexico) I gave them my Panerai watch (Panerai Radiomir gmt Alarm PAM00098) for service and they told me that they had to send it to Switzerland. It took around 3 months in service and when it arrived everything worked perfectly but the minute hand moved a little and then stopped. The clock stopped marking the time and remained paused, however the seconds hand continued to move perfectly. When the watch arrived I told my AD that something was wrong and now they tell me that Richemont Mexico is evaluating it and that they probably have to send it back to Switzerland. If they send it again, is there a way for you to help me see what happens? Why didn't they do the service right the first time? Thank you very much Alexander and the Watchadvisor team.
Please send an email to alexander(@)watchadvisor(.)com featuring all this information and I will send it to the appropriate person at the HQ in Neuchatel... Carlos will get in contact with you directly...
Radiomir in 45 mm with a sapphire case back, sandwich dial, and multiple dial colors availlable along with different colors of lume and at the price point of $5800 US. This is a winner.
@@WatchAdvisor A future reference that Panerai should offer. That would be a winner. Base model with different options of dial color and lume such as faux patina.
Thanks for asking about the power reserve. Pontroué replied they don't want to clutter the dial, thats a cheap excuse, they can put the power reserve indicator on the back like the Pam 190 with its lovely JLC movement (look it up). But no, today they do it quick and cheap. Simple sandblasted movements, closed caseback… And charge bigger bucks than before. Not much respect for the brand.
I want to buy a Panerai. I'm right handed but wear watches on my right hand. Should i buy a left handed Panerai so the crown guard is over my wrist or should i stick to a right handed model? Any thoughts appreciated 🙂
@@WatchAdvisor I guess so... I was wondering if there was an unwritten rule for this in the watch World...? And weather left handed watches don't hold their value as well?
@@WatchAdvisor your Manufacture videos are fantastic. Regards Panerai, they are a super watch. In fact, if you were collecting a range of watches, I would definitely want a Radiomir.
Love many of the previous model " Especially those history tribute & Pre-Vendome series " Those current contemporary new slim case & new submersible look so comical with their colourful straps " Easily mistaken as Seiko or some cheap replica watches "
Interesting video Alexander 👍🏻 I wonder why panerai chose to discontinue the radiomir 1940 case as I am really into those (have a 655, would love a smaller version of the 577). Do you have any hints at why this came about or if it will be revived? I will watch back your older ceo talks, maybe it was adressed at some point (can’t find any quote on it so far).
@@undy This is what JM wrote me… „Hello Alexander We decided to discontinue it to focus on Radiomir ‘anse a filo’ case concept with the collection relaunch of last year as this case was the first developed by Panerai in 1935. In a nutshell, to be more fucused and consistent Hope it helps Jm“
@@WatchAdvisor thank you! Understandable decision, but unfortunate for fans like myself (I could never commit to the wire lugs of the regular Radiomir 😆). I really hope we will see it return someday.
Panerai need to get back to basics. They've a beautiful, functional core design, easily made into different sizes, materials and colours to attract different audiences. I think they're starting to see this. But, there are still too many gimmicks used to justify exorbitant cost (standard Richemont): complications, faux patina (now to the case!), E steel (please, like most steel isn't recycled anyway), experiences, tenuous tie-ins... the list goes on. The identity of Panerai is not gimick-ridden, generic, price gouge luxury, it is effortless sprezzatura!
Would love to see more options with open case backs. I get the plates, but I am the type of person that likes to see open case backs. Options thus far, are somewhat limited unless you go to movements with more complications. What if someone prefers simplicity below 44mm without going to the 10K+ range? There is of course market for those wants. Unrelated to simplicity as an example, the Luminor Due Luna has a beautiful dial (fav complication) around the 10K range, and yet, no open caseback unless you go to 18K+. On another note, the PR on the 8 giorni, I like the concept and heritage of the brand. Your idea of a book or note pad is good, but I think considering where the brand is heading in innovation, an app would work best. Get an app where you not only keep track of the PR but also gets you more connected with the brand, with its history, current and future events, etc.
@@mickyzzzeee I find a somewhat narrow-minded view of things. Obviously, you have not dealt with the developments at Panerai in recent times. One question: Have you already seen our manufacture videos?
@@WatchAdvisor nah I don’t need too, I’ve owned two Panerais and took a bath on them both. Now I only wear brands whos manufacturing standards reflect their price points.
I wonder if panerai will ever use some of the design elements from their lab ID pam0700 in a more affordable watch. Namely the carbon nanotube dial, blue indices, and submersible style hands. I think these elements combined are very beautiful and could be put into a more affordable package - as I understand it the expensive part of the lab ID models are their movements that don't need to be serviced for decades
Nice interview as always. I have two serious questions for Jean-Marc Why do you not produce more bronze watches and why are they so much more expensive. I would love to own one but they are way out of my price range and I say this as the owner of a 233 and a 682. With such a limited production even used they are too expansive. I have no problem with Panerai producing crazy amazing expensive watches but I think just offering a different case material option shouldn't be so limited. No other watch brand deserves to be made in bronze than Panerai. Why did you bother producing the P900 when the P9010 was such an amazing movement with hacking (I mean rally that is nothing to brag about, even all Seiko's hack now) and jumping hour hand. Is this a bottom line profit thing? I don't know enough about movement manufacturing to have an educated guess which is why I am asking.
Here comes Jean-Marc’s personal answer…. 1:1 what he just wrote me by WhatsApp -- begin -- “Good evening dear Alexander, As promised my 2 answers to the questions of your reader: -Bronze, launched since more than 10 years ago by my predecessor Angelo Bonati has proven to be one of the success story of the brand. This material was originally used in several marine instruments on the classic boat. At Panerai, we have the chance to own, Eilean a 22 metre classic ketch built in 1936 on which, even after many restauration, you can still find many accessories & instruments in Bronze. That has been the connecting point with the development of the Bronze in our brand. As such the Panerai bronze program has always been developed with an annual limitation of 1000 timepieces, whatever the number of models which are produced. This year, we still have the Submersible 42mm, the Submersible 47mm, the Radiomir classic & the Radiomir Tourbillon & the consolidated production of these 4 models do not exceed 1000 pieces. Sold mainly to friends and true collectors of our brand which explain why you rarely find any of these pieces available in our stores. -Our P900 calibre has been developed with a functional & user friendly approach. It benefits today from one of the best performance in terms of quality among all our calibres. At the Watches & Wonders 2025, we will unveil some key innovations which will integrate the stop balance wheel. Hope it clarifies JM “ -- end --
@@WatchAdvisor First of all I am immediately a little bit star struck that I am getting a direct response from Jean-Marc and so quickly! Thank you. Bronze; I don't like this answer but I appreciate you explaining your stance on the matter. I now find myself looking at my two Panerai's and my Pelagos as potential sacrifices for a 1074. P.900; That's good news on the hacking and I know lots of people who prefer a quickset date to a jumping hour hand (I am not one of these people). What if you meet me half way and implement that amazing seconds reset function from the P.2002 on your P.900 replacement. Lastly, Alexander since you have Jean-Marc's ear, what would he think about licensing their interchangeable strap system to other brands. After using it you see how ridiculous spring bars are. I actually consider this method to be almost tool-less since all it takes is a single toothpick broken in half to swap out a strap that will never come off. Thanks again for the response ---
Here once again JM answer 1:1…. ---begin-- ….. “DearAlexander As promised, my answer to your reader: The PAM Click Release System is very useful and appreciated by many of our customers. It will be extended in the years to come to many more innovations. We cannot however license it. As a reminder, all your readers, should they be interested, can visit our Manufacture in Neuchatel and discover the Manufacturing of our watches & the processes of research & development of our products All the best jm “….. ---- end----
A couple years ago when the new chronographs came out. I bought the blue dial with the bracelet. Beautiful watch. I liked the look so much I bought the white dial also and put the orange strap on. Again beautiful. I found out later that the movement wasn’t even made by Panerai as they claim. For a company that has the ability and does make their own movements, I find this disturbing. It’s a basic movement hidden by the solid case back. Why?? I’ve owned several Panerai’s over the years. This ceo should be ashamed of himself. Be honest at the boutique! I feel I’ve been taken advantage of. Spent 20k on what? It’s sad because I only own Panerai’s and AP’s. The watch industry has changed since the 90’s. You’re losing customers…
If they can make a Mars or a Spacewatch that can withstand the pressures of space and send it out on a Spacex trip that would be a good goal for them I think.
@@WatchAdvisor I think a lot of the watch value is imported from the heritage or the story of the watch. People will pay $1,000 for a watch with a good story behind it. For instance. The Rolex Explorer brand is based on its story of having submitted Everest.
I don't understand the e-Steel critique. They think steel mined fresh from the earth is somehow different to reused and refined recycled steel? Both are simply iron and carbon molecules fused together!
The large plates covering the mechanical movements: the dumbest design ever created in the history of watch making. Whats next: spray painting diamond rings? Is there a single person on the planet, that wants their expensive beautiful movement hidden with a closed case back, or a large plate? A stunning horrible recent development.
Well three-quarter plates are pretty common in watchmaking since many, many decades. They were used to increase the all over stability of calibre… That is for sure no “recent development”…
A 30m resistant dive watch. Had two in the early 2000s but grew up and bought watches that have great movements, stayed true to their heritage and that I can get my money back on if I ever sold them. Some fakes are just as good as the real things cause Panerais movements are sub par compared to the price point. If you really want one, buy pre vendome or a bronzo…the rest are junk
I find a somewhat narrow-minded view of things. Obviously, you have not dealt with the developments at Panerai in recent times. One question: Have you already seen our manufacture videos?
just love reading any comments relating to Hublot and Panerai 🤣 I won't buy a Panerai and I don't like what they are doing, but I won't say bad things about them😁 For brands with bad reputations but are still making good profits, they exist for reasons.
according to you, everything is relative and we should be respectful to ppl's understanding of certain brands. I'm a Rolex fanboy and have double digit Rolexes, but I can't ignore the fact that the brand has been viewed as unreachable due to "under the table" transactions from ADs and how they treat customers. This applies to Panerai too with so called "lie to customers". I'm not a hater to those brands, but we need to find a mutual ground between haters and lovers. Haters stop criticizing them and just don't buy their products, and lovers just ignore those haters' comments. 😄
@@yidong5567 Don’t blame Rolex! Rolex is a foundation and cannot sell watches to the final customers… Independent acting (very greedy) ADs are the ones to be blamed since they invented that absurd business by creating an artificial shortage to be able to charge a premium on every watch… Since ADs may not sell these overpriced watches in their stores they have there own network of flippers and resellers… Underneath you read what you see when you click in the small "i" beside the price given on the official Rolex website... This information is NEW and proves what we all have been discussing here on WatchAdvisor since years now ... … “ROLEX pricing policies Suggested retail price inclusive of V.A.T. The suggested price can be modified at any time without notice. The sale of Rolex watches above the suggested retail price, as well as any tie-in sale, is not permitted. However, the distribution of Rolex watches worldwide is entrusted to independent Official Retailers and Rolex is not authorized to intervene in the relationship between them and the end customer. Models availability All Rolex watches are assembled by hand with the utmost care to ensure exceptional quality. Such high standards naturally restrict our production capacity and at times, the demand for our watches outpaces this capacity. Therefore, the availability of certain models may be limited. New Rolex watches are exclusively sold by Official Rolex Retailers, who receive regular deliveries and independently manage the allocation and sales of watches to customers. Official Rolex Retailers can provide information on the availability of Rolex watches.” …
@@WatchAdvisor Look up the scandal over the P9200 caliber, as well as the Brooklyn Bridge. And please, stop being so defensive over shit brands. Are you receiving money from them or what? Why do you keep siding with dishonest brands?
@@WatchAdvisor Why keep defending brands that lie to customers? Are you siding with corporations, or consumers? Is your money coming from these brands?
