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In Defense of Bishop Robert Barron W/ Fr. Mike Schmitz 

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Father Mike and I respond to the flak Bishop Barron has been receiving on his recently expressed view that we may "Dare Hope" that all men will be saved. I share a story that I think illustrates the importance of Bishop Barron's reach and mission. We go on to talk about when it's appropriate to correct public Catholic figures and how to do so in charity.
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@PintsWithAquinas
@PintsWithAquinas 4 года назад
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@shanrajesh7861
@shanrajesh7861 4 года назад
You are great mate . God bless you
@jamesnielsen3095
@jamesnielsen3095 3 года назад
Why not become a "Dem progressive" operative?
@shanrajesh7861
@shanrajesh7861 3 года назад
@@TheWorldTeacher lol ...... the fact that you said God made us to be slaves is itself flawed ....... I mean in Christianity that isn't the case ..... we were all made to be the children of God , and he our father ..... that's what makes Christianity beautiful ....... I loved the way you ended the sentence by the way in hindi ... Cause Jesus said in John 14 : 6 " I am the way , the TRUTH and the life ....." Yeah so just like you said , let this TRUTH TRIUMPH 😁😁
@einarabelc5
@einarabelc5 3 года назад
And here I was thinking Barron was the best thing to happen in a long time. Then his inaction happened. He even contradicts himself while also quoting himself. He says we shouldn't calumny yet he chooses not to hack evil to pieces. Those two actions are described in two separate videos in his youtube channel. The first is about the Devil and the second is about the meaning of Violence in the Bible and HIS interpretation is that when we face evil we always TOY with it and never truly obliterate it. John Paul II call evil for what it was. I believe that is a Polish cultural feature, at least according to a Polish/American Jesuit Priest from Chicago who talks about John Paul II the Polish pope.
@einarabelc5
@einarabelc5 3 года назад
Wait!!! Are you sure you didn't conspire for the whole Taylor Marshall/Robert Barron debacle to happen? The pattern is well discussed here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TfsfnDujI1Y.html
@marktaylor2502
@marktaylor2502 Год назад
Bishop Barron brought me to Catholicism this past year. I am currently in RCIA and deeply grateful for his social media outreach.
@DESERT_DISCIPLE
@DESERT_DISCIPLE 10 месяцев назад
How are you coming along in OCIA?
@mamezou3741
@mamezou3741 10 дней назад
Bishop Barron has been incredibly influential in bringing me, my wife, my mother, and my father into Catholicism. He is a very gifted evangelist, and it's disappointing to me that so many over-zealous Catholics think that evangelizing has to be beating someone across the head with a hammer. Calm your zeal and let the Spirit work in people. YOU don't convert anyone; the Spirit converts. "You're going to hell unless you repent and join the Catholic church", is exactly the kind of thing that would have led me to shut the door in their face and look elsewhere.
@sharontiglao5826
@sharontiglao5826 3 года назад
Barron is a great teacher. We all have gifts-you will be judged on how well you use those gifts. Diverse gifts-one Spirit. We are not all evangelists. Gossip is a sin. I wonder how much of our knit-picking comes close to that. Bishop Barron is a hard worker. He explains the mysteries so indepth, I praise God for him. He's got a handle on love. He thinks thoughts others seldom touch. What a valuable asset to our Catholic faith! ✝️🙏❣
@alicekeene8329
@alicekeene8329 Год назад
Amen @ Bishop Barron✝️
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 месяцев назад
Even though you don't have to believe another personal revelation, I love when other religions have NDE or someone has a profound experience about someone outside of the chuch who died. No matter what the church teachers God has the last word always.
@CarnivoreAnesthetist
@CarnivoreAnesthetist Год назад
I am not a Catholic but I am a Christ follower. 50% of what I watch on RU-vid to learn more about Christ is catholic podcast. Protestants and Catholics alike are Christ followers. I wish all Christians would come together to make this world a better place. Thank God for Bishop Barron. He is one of my favorites. He feeds me in a way that a lot of protestant preachers do not. I just want more God in my life period! End of story.
@cyndirobinson2135
@cyndirobinson2135 25 дней назад
God bless you on your faith journey. God is calling many Christ Followers / believers to look into what truth is really about the Universal Church.
@DanCarollo
@DanCarollo 4 года назад
“Daring to hope” is not the same thing as “daring to proclaim definitively” that all might be saved. Every single person is not without hope, and we should approach our evangelism with the confidence and optimism that every person is a potential recipient of the transforming grace of God
@tomgreene6579
@tomgreene6579 3 года назад
Well said...''for nothing is impossible...'' Are you a theology student?? Many Christians seem to be more aware of Hell than Redemption.
@amanahan1001
@amanahan1001 3 года назад
@@tomgreene6579 that is precisely the reason why there is Redemption....because of hell. The Holy Scriptures say that Our Lord Jesus Christ came to destroy the work of Satan...to bring us to hell AMDG SAG JMJ Semper Deo Gratias et Marie
@amanahan1001
@amanahan1001 3 года назад
Am reminded of what St. Faustina said.... most of the souls in hell did not believe that there is a hell. St. Padre Pio said souls finally believe that there is a hell when they are there Our Most Blessed Mother showed the Children Shepherds of Fatima the vision of hell. AMDG SAG JMJ Semper Deo Gratias et Marie
@lelavelion1356
@lelavelion1356 3 года назад
@Jaap Heemskerk yeah no Jesus went to the limbo of the Father's which was a part of hell that no longer exists but Judas Iscariot is in permanent hell.
@bigbearn1383
@bigbearn1383 3 года назад
Father Baron should clarify his position because many are confused. He's teaching the doctrine, but leaving many scratching their heads. Not everyone has a theological and philosophical acuteness. One thing is factual: people are confused ,, so he should indeed clarify his position . God is Mercy and Just .
@Beesmakelifegoo
@Beesmakelifegoo 2 года назад
Bishop brings comfort. I am not Catholic yet I often listen to his interesting way of using story blended in a very sweet truthful voice. Clear,kind and loving way to lead and bring people to find peace. Anyone who does not approve of him can just move away. If God is what Bishop Barren says that is nice.
@Carmen24860
@Carmen24860 11 месяцев назад
@@dh7164 and who are you to judge?
@Ghost_Electricity
@Ghost_Electricity 4 года назад
There should be no shock over hope for universal salvation. This hope goes all the way back to the church fathers. St. Gregory of Nyssa comes to mind. A sophisticated understanding of hell tells you that everyone who is in hell actually wants to be there due to willful isolation from God. It is a logical result of free will. The hope and desire that all creation may come around to willful unity with God is a very Christian and loving sentiment.
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 3 года назад
And as free will is the sole cause of damnation, one is unsure as to how much effort God could or would use to turn the will towards Himself, or what He would consider coercive. Not to mention most people's wills - even the good people! - are motivated at least in part by bad reasoning. We're pretty stupid as a species. I someday would like to write a thesis about the evident stupidity of the human race and present it to God as evidence in defence of the salvation of at least most people.
@FrostinthePines
@FrostinthePines 3 года назад
This is exactly right
@amdg01007
@amdg01007 2 года назад
@@HolyKhaaaaan present evidence to the all knower is ironic. But I do belief salvation is adjusted for unwillful stupidity.
@me_1792
@me_1792 2 года назад
@@HolyKhaaaaan but God knows everything dude
@freddyj5845
@freddyj5845 2 года назад
The final choice is made in eternity. Hence it makes it eternal. Period! It doesn’t change once made. It’s why Lucifer nor the fallen angels will ever return to their glorious state! They made their choice in the eternal realm knowing the full truth.
@TheAAnne123
@TheAAnne123 2 года назад
Finding Bishop Barron’s RU-vid channel is what brought me to Catholicism. He’s brilliant!! Those who dislike or criticize him are not able to understand and appreciate his knowledge.
@ThatIsWackSon
@ThatIsWackSon 2 года назад
Good that you're Catholic, but he's not God. "Those who dislike or criticize him are not able to understand and appreciate his knowledge." He is human and can make mistakes or poor decisions. Remember who to truly worship.
@jamesm.9285
@jamesm.9285 10 месяцев назад
​​@@ThatIsWackSonhis is a very true point, and it seems to me that no statement was made to say Bishop Barron is God or infallible or should be worshipped. We are commanded to use our words to lift each other up. I could be wrong (and often am), but this comment in essence appears to me as a reminder to take appreciation of the Bishop's teachings despite issues or controversies - taking a one-sided view and never seeing the middle ground always leads to division, and we certainly don't need more of that. That said, criticism should never be suppressed and nor should the ability respond and correct oneself where needed. But I really like your point. Not enough people are saying it nowadays, even in the liturgy where Mass has on occasions become focused on ourselves rather than the True, Sacred, Divine sacrifice and worship to God alone. God bless you and all Catholics who are "figuring this out". 🙌
@emilyfriedl7042
@emilyfriedl7042 4 года назад
Pleased that Fr Mike agrees with the Church, the saints, and TnT. I'm impressed that he can put things so....calmly.
@ekrahmatu2799
@ekrahmatu2799 4 года назад
I think his Spirit is of peace...
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 2 года назад
He’s a priest…I would be shocked if that weren’t the case…
@deborahnadler782
@deborahnadler782 2 года назад
I agree. Fr Mike is a gracious servant. I love bishop Barron and pray the rosary with him everyday. I invite all to do the same his mediations are comforting and helpful.
@SeptemberApril-io1hi
@SeptemberApril-io1hi 2 месяца назад
I love Bishop Barron. He doesn't need defending. He is a Servant of The Lord.
@angelamarie9874
@angelamarie9874 2 года назад
With God all things are possible, i dare to hope and this makes me strive more fully with God in the persuit of salvation... bless you 😊
@alvc22
@alvc22 4 года назад
I loved that statement "It's the body healing itself" 🥰👍👏🙏
@paulkelly1162
@paulkelly1162 2 года назад
O my Jesus, save us from the fires of hell, and lead ALL souls to heaven; especially those most in need of thy mercy. Also see Rom 5:18.
@brucebarber4104
@brucebarber4104 2 года назад
Paul Kelly, thank you, I'll add that verse to two others. "First of all, then, I ask that supplications, prayers, petitions, and thanksgivings be offered for everyone, for kings and for all in authority, that we may lead a quiet and tranquil life in all devotion and dignity. This is good and pleasing to God our savior, who wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth." 1 Timothy 2:1-4 "The Lord does not delay his promise, as some regard “delay,” but he is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9
@deb9806
@deb9806 11 месяцев назад
A loving God not human is going to blame people in another country for not knowing him. Of course not. Blame someone for not telling them, maybe. But he doesn't have our pea brain. He's not human. He doesn't judge on human emotion.
@PintsWithAquinas
@PintsWithAquinas 4 года назад
To all those in this comment section claiming Bishop Robert Barron denies the existence of Hell. You ought to repent of the sin of calumny immediately and publicly. From his website: Does Bishop Barron deny that hell exists? No. Bishop Barron does not deny the existence of hell, because to do so would be to deny permanent and authoritative Church doctrine. He agrees hell exists and is a real possibility for every person. More at www.wordonfire.org/hope/
@uluvr1c3
@uluvr1c3 4 года назад
Matt Fradd the fact that he has to even have that on his website already speaks volumes
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 года назад
No, Barron does not say Hell does not exist, but he says that there is a reasonable hope that nobody goes there, which is practically the same thing. Jesus made it very clear at Matthew 7:13-14 that the vast majority of souls go to Hell.
@BrandonVogt
@BrandonVogt 4 года назад
@@uluvr1c3 I agree. It speaks volumes about egregiously Bishop Barron's critics have misrepresented his views that he has to explicitly say he believes in Hell for people to believe him.
@uluvr1c3
@uluvr1c3 4 года назад
Brandon Vogt so why won’t he entertain TnT? But he’s fine with Shapiro, Peterson, etc If he thinks he’s being misrepresented maybe he should go and clear his name with them. Would help his case much more. But like you responded on Twitter there’s no chance he will.
@TotusTuus8
@TotusTuus8 4 года назад
I really dislike all of the confusion! It’s like you just don’t know who to believe anymore! Jesus, please help us NOT to be deceived!
@deeelliott6205
@deeelliott6205 4 года назад
I just listened to Bishop Barron again making his comments and I heard nothing heretical about them at all. He is a brilliant god serving evangelist of the modern era and his comments unite rather than divide. Thank God for him.
@amdg2023
@amdg2023 4 года назад
Well then you didn't look or listen very hard
@deeelliott6205
@deeelliott6205 4 года назад
Ummm .... ok lol 🙏
@EC-rd9ys
@EC-rd9ys 4 года назад
Agreed. I just heard the Fatima prayer, "... Lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of thy Mercy." Don't pray that in vain!
@petersholle823
@petersholle823 4 года назад
Thank you for this. I love the super self righteous heresy hunters on this page, who literally look got anything to slap that label onto. May God have mercy on them.
@MattBurrill
@MattBurrill 4 года назад
​@@EC-rd9ys In context, that be would properly understood as all souls who are capable of being led to Heaven which would include all souls alive on Earth and all of the souls in Purgatory. Our Lady of Fatima showed the children the hell of the damned, which is full of souls that the prayer which she taught the children cannot be applied.
@PogLife2171
@PogLife2171 3 года назад
"Dare we hope" is perfectly appropriate and captures the great mercy our lord has for his people. And Bishop Barron has been really clear and carefull to make his points without dismissing the possibility of Hell.
@PogLife2171
@PogLife2171 2 года назад
@Cortney Nicholson Yes he did and your point is? But he doesn't lead by saying X percent of people are going. He talks of the narrow path and the many goats separated from the sheep. But *many* doesn't mean most. The possibility is whether all go or not. Not the possibility of it's existence. Those who inform follow their conscience to the best of their ability are asking the internal voice of Christ for truth. When someone asks their father for something, does the father not provide the means?
@PogLife2171
@PogLife2171 2 года назад
@Cortney Nicholson if you actually listened to his video about it he didn't say that. His conclusion was that he believed that we can reasonably hope that all will be saved. This is why no single soul has been placed beneath prayer. The church has never said you cannot pray for any single soul. Clearly your position isn't more traditional than this one because no single theological opinion has been endorsed or condemned by the church with exception of Origin's complete universalism.
@PogLife2171
@PogLife2171 2 года назад
@Cortney Nicholson or maybe people are saved mentally from endless scrupulosity and the Radical Catholics pushing people away from the church by telling them they are going to burn in hell for things they don't even understand to be sinful. If God says to pray for those who persecute you, what is so unreasonable about hoping they will see mercy and salvation? Wouldn't that make us idk Christians?
@PogLife2171
@PogLife2171 2 года назад
@Cortney Nicholson I never said you did, you are emotionally reading things into it that I never said. When you implied I was believing the heresy of universalism I didn't respond with hurt feelings. I merely remarked that Catholics who are inclined to be very scrupulous, are pushed away by Catholics who subscribe to the Augustine side of the argument.
@PogLife2171
@PogLife2171 2 года назад
@Cortney Nicholson To get very personal with you, I am 25. My first 23 years of life I had abandoned the church because of many traditional types that would condemn me for my parents never taking me to church, eating meat on Fridays and every other little thing I didn't know or understand about the faith. When I met my wife I decided to investigate the church because she was Catholic. And after watching Bishop Barron's videos about this, his wisdom and mercy gave me a new look at the Catholic church and I was confirmed & first communion within 8 months. If "Dare we Hope" can convince a stubborn anti Catholic like me of mercy and bring me back into the fold, maybe God willing we can hope that all will have the same fate. We can hold onto the belief in the possibility and guarantee that if we die in a state of broken relationship with God we will meet our just punishment. But we can hope that All can mend that relationship especially those who don't understand the right path, that is why the last words of the mass are "go forth and share the good news in every you say or do".
@msdebra213
@msdebra213 4 года назад
I am sure that Bishop Barron has saved many a soul for God. And I am also sure that Satan has a particular hatred of him for doing so. It occurred to me that the Evil One may have stirred up these controversies to discredit all the good resulting from the Bishop's work. I suggest we pray regularly for all our priests, and especially for our evangelists like Bishop Barron and Father Mike.
@chommie5350
@chommie5350 Год назад
Bishop Baron is a coward ....he is afraid to tell the truth and shame the devil .....takes the humanistic way out ....all the time .....that my friend is heresy
@msdebra213
@msdebra213 Год назад
@@chommie5350 Find another enemy, dude. And you spelt his name incorrectly.
@towerburkindine
@towerburkindine 4 года назад
PS thank you Matt Fradd and Fr. Mike for bringing it up. I’ve seen Bishop B on Pints With and Heard Fr. Quote him. I’am glad you both brought it up in such a kind way!!
@anastazjowka
@anastazjowka 2 года назад
Praise be the Lord for Fr Mike and Bishop Barron!
@adamsmith3413
@adamsmith3413 3 года назад
Even Peter argued with Paul over how to reach out to converts.
@josephzammit6396
@josephzammit6396 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FJb1x3BoOvY.html
@phillynch4971
@phillynch4971 4 года назад
Thanks for clarifying that that is not vodka, I thought it was! lol
@lalaithan
@lalaithan 4 года назад
Haha, I would've assumed it too.
@teodormajewski3566
@teodormajewski3566 3 года назад
A good Bishop should have a strong head! xD It,s better if Bishop get really drunk after celebrating a really good, victorious and hard beating of the enemies of the Church... That the one that is allways nice&sober but also week, PC, heretical and not stand with HIS Sheeps when wolfs are bitchin about stuff not relevant to the Salvation, throwing false and worthless accusations. Good Bishop STANDS OUT and tell the hard Way, never using nice worldly speech. After that the Sheeps praise God in SOOOO MAAAANY Holy hymns and prayers, that they got totally holly wasted. That leads to divine inSpiration by God himself. Gratefull Sheeps invite THEIR Bishop to do some vodka shots for the greater Glory of God!!! And for some relaksation before the NEXT WAVE. Unfortunatelly we got the nice guys insteed... Sorry for my english.
@firedog1972
@firedog1972 3 года назад
Priest can drink. One of my favorite priest loves Shiner Boch Beer!!!! 🍺🍺🍺🍺
@teodormajewski3566
@teodormajewski3566 3 года назад
@@firedog1972 I know one priest who is an exorcist. It's a holy man and he has a bottle of vodka on the shelf for a special ocasions :-) After morning exorcisms he flush a MONSTROUS dump into the toilet. I always imagine that he swallow all those demons into his EPIC belly to torture them in his stomach acids for the greater Glory of God xD And that he use pizza as a bait (he eat pizza on pizza bakery called "Omen" ) XD And today I go to him for a confession :-)
@fathersinchrist8028
@fathersinchrist8028 3 года назад
Lol
@ElizabethSampson
@ElizabethSampson 2 года назад
I love Father Mike and Bishop Barron and the way they teach!
@patrickpottinger3250
@patrickpottinger3250 4 года назад
Outstanding video! In a world where it seems like few can be trusted, you have earned my trust. I look forward to continuing my Catholic education as Christ speaks through you. Again, awesome perspective men, well done!
@AaronDAntoni
@AaronDAntoni 3 года назад
"is this how the body helping itself?" GREAT POINT!!!!!!!!
@carinn.1402
@carinn.1402 4 года назад
Matt, listening to this reminded me of Luke 6: 39-42 ( Friday's Gospel reading) I am no where near the level of Dr. Marshall or Bishop Barron. But I periodically have to keep myself in check when trying to evangelize to my protestant peers not to sound critical or condescending. We all have our own technique to bring people to the true faith but like Fr. Mike said it shouldn't hurt to give constructive criticism. Love your videos and all Catholic youtubers.
@BradleyUK58
@BradleyUK58 3 года назад
Yes some Catholics have a strange way of evangelising denying the divinity of Christ the virgin birth the presence of Christ in the Eucharist and now some churches have pagan earth and nature worship services in our churches. Not good not good at all.
@domhamai
@domhamai Год назад
@@BradleyUK58 Isn’t that all idolatry, never mind the Catholic Churches being littered with images.
@BradleyUK58
@BradleyUK58 Год назад
@@domhamai Are the photographs people keep of their loved ones statues of politicians and historical figures idolatry? No. Catholics dot worship statues they are there to help us focus on the original person and God our human minds sometimes wander when we are in prayer and we get distractions. Let’s get this right Catholics don’t worship statues this is made clear by the Catholic Church. The statues of Jesus help our minds focus on Jesus the statues of saints help us focus on their lives and good examples. Find in papal bull that does not make it clear that Catholics do not worship statues you won’t find one. Many Protestant Churches have images the Temple in Jerusalem had statues of Angels read the Bible Jesus attended the Temple not once as far as I can see did he say they where idols. Look at the way some people are ignoring Gods command to love God and their neighbour. I have broken Gods laws and commandments haven’t you? That’s because we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God. But if we where not sinners what then? Jesus came to save sinners he made that perfectly clear. What we are to do is follow Jesus his commandments and his laws not the laws of this world. How can Images of Jesus and his blessed mother be idols? Before most where literate images is the way that people learned of Gods message to man. Let’s Get another thing right no Protestant Church would have the Bible if the Catholic church did not preserve it. The Holy Rosary is a very scriptural way of praying it is a walk through the life of Jesus accompanied by His blessed Mother and it scriptural. The Catholic Church is not the Protestant church many priest and forget this fact we agree on many things and disagree on things also. How old are the Protestant denominations? The Catholic Church goes right back to Jesus and the apostles this is a fact. Bible alone without guidance causes division and error this is why God chose to appoint Peter as head of his church and the apostles to preach the good news. The early Christian church was rebuked by the apostles for their error because they needed the guidance of those Jesus appointed. The church is for sinners so we can’t be surprised when we find them in he Church these are the peopleJesus said he came to save. Nor is it surprising that the true church of got would come under immense attack as it is today. We must follow Jesus spread the good news as commanded us to and be prepared to suffer and fight lead by example and pray and forgive others and if necessary take action to protect the weak elderly the disabled and in the Catholic Church this means even to martyrdom.
@Carmen24860
@Carmen24860 11 месяцев назад
@@domhamai oh heal yourself! Not one Catholic idolises or worships statues. Your fire and brimstone protestism and trolling Catholics must be exhausting.
@mariettaljiljic1903
@mariettaljiljic1903 4 года назад
The real question is how much we live up to "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
@amcsween4923
@amcsween4923 4 года назад
Jesus loved the Pharisees, even as He rebuked them. Paul loved Peter, even as he rebuked him... John the Baptist loved Herod, even as he rebuked him.
@lionheart5078
@lionheart5078 4 года назад
Great comment
@JPX7NGD
@JPX7NGD 4 года назад
Allow St Thomas Aquinas to answer: there is no Greater Kindness than destroying error.
@poliklolik
@poliklolik 3 года назад
If Barron just said that all who love God and keep his commandments have a reasonable hope to not enter the hell it would make more sense
@jeanvandorst4287
@jeanvandorst4287 3 года назад
Well said. It's this "hell could be empty" angle that is so disturbing.
@ATLKing404
@ATLKing404 3 года назад
You don't need to be catholic to go to heaven, you just need to be christian.
@jeanvandorst4287
@jeanvandorst4287 3 года назад
@@ATLKing404 The idea that only baptized Catholics can go to heaven is not a teaching of the Catholic Church. Can non-Christians go to heaven? This is a complicated topic. To reject Christ is a grave sin. But, as with all sin, there are many things that can affect a person's culpability. For example, an aborted baby never had an opportunity to accept Christ. Does this mean that Christ will send all aborted babies to hell? Obviously not. You cannot reject something you have no knowledge of. For example, I personally hate broccoli. Some people like broccoli. But a person who has never heard of broccoli, or tasted broccoli, can not make a judgment either way. They are simply ignorant. Or suppose that my parents taught me that broccoli was dangerous. It could kill me if I eat it. This would make my acceptance of broccoli much more difficult. Similarly, a young child in Siberia who has never heard of Christ is in no position to either reject him or accept Him.
@margokupelian344
@margokupelian344 2 года назад
@@ATLKing404 I agree. I’m an Orthodox Christian who is fond of Catholic devotions. Please go to this website tlig.org. It’s about Christian unity where Jesus says “Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, you are the same in my eyes, you all belong to me.”. Amen to that! Actually this website is about messages that a Greek Orthodox lady by the name of Vassula Ryden has been getting from Jesus since 1985 and her writings have been examined by the Vatican.
@deborahwilson6970
@deborahwilson6970 4 года назад
Reading for Monday, September 16 from 1 Timothy 2:1-8. "God...wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth." St. Paul's exhortation that we all pray "lifting up holy hands, without anger or argument." It is also true that Christ wept over Jerusalem knowing that not everybody would accept the salvation offered.
@jlinnintj
@jlinnintj 4 года назад
Thank you, Matt and Father, for showing prudence regarding Bishop Barron. His zeal for souls' salvation is crystal clear and implicit in his work. If he believed that all people go to heaven, he would never have bothered to evangelize as he has. He also should not be expected to sit down and discuss these controversial topics with critics who have taunted him publicly, calling him Bishop Bobby, or with those who don't even attempt to give his motives the benefit of the doubt or try to see the good he has done in drawing many to consider Christianity who never would have prior.
@laymanchristian1138
@laymanchristian1138 4 года назад
Bishop Barron is awesome 😎 he is bringing more people to Christ and the Church then all his critics put together. I’m a Protestant convert to Catholicism. People like his critics were obstacles to my conversation. Barron was brought me to the Church.
@mariab.774
@mariab.774 3 года назад
I'm really happy to hear this. I'm a craddle Catholic and I'm a bit tired of some Catholics always critizing, instead of praying and looking for points in common with others. It's discouraging.
@solovief
@solovief 4 года назад
When it comes to Hell and hope for souls, I think we should accept the wisdom of the Church which has told us the way to salvation is narrow and that few find it, but also that we should have hope for all souls. I also don't think we need to divide with each other on this matter as we double down on both knowledge and hope. We need to pray and evangelize and do everything through Our Lady.
@LostArchivist
@LostArchivist 4 года назад
To divide the Church is to dismember the Mystical Body of Christ. Christ prayed that we might be one as He and the Father are one. Why do so many of us ignore this?
@judyknecht499
@judyknecht499 4 года назад
I assume you,re thinking you are one of those lucky few.. God sure wasted is time, I guess and has more regrets (think:billions of souls in torment for eternity) than Joys. Didnt do a very effective job for His Father, I guess.
@SensusFidelium
@SensusFidelium 4 года назад
Went "man that dude loves vodka! Need to get him on whiskey being a good southern guy now"
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
More than revealing whom you maybe faithful to. Take care.
@SensusFidelium
@SensusFidelium 4 года назад
Mary Pinakat faithful to God, ma’am. I enjoy a good drink. We aren’t puritans
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
@@SensusFidelium The options actually would have been more suitable for the very first words from Matt here.
@tristant9705
@tristant9705 4 года назад
Sensus Fidelium SilI think the novus ordo mass is a great mass if the official rubics are followed to the T and none of the options taken.
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7jSqe-peKH0.html
@margitrujillo6943
@margitrujillo6943 2 года назад
My primary care Doc is great at ‘advising ALL these things’…Thanks for your contribution…🥰❣️
@BrianGondo
@BrianGondo Год назад
'You have more learning than love' beautiful
@M5guitar1
@M5guitar1 4 года назад
TnT did a review of this conversation today. It's very balanced, professional, mature. My take away is that filial correction is not "picking another enemy". Correcting error is a Spiritual Work of Mercy. In the Legion of Mary I learned that misguided human respect leads souls to ruin.
@1775adam
@1775adam 4 года назад
Fr. Mike is spot on with what he says in relation to correcting error.
@debbidipace7416
@debbidipace7416 4 года назад
Love Fr Mike... I wish he could finish his thoughts before being interrupted. Thank you💙🙏
@janetplonka8110
@janetplonka8110 2 месяца назад
Our parish priest who very reverence & has brought back many traditions back into the church, kneeling, on the tongue if want, no Altar girls, not afraid to speak the truth or EM etc. for Christmas he gave us “This is My Body” by Bishop Barron & for Lent Fr. Jay & the Deacon took it a step further & had classes & videos on this wonderful topic in the Eucharist. Many who are in the Traditionalism dislike him b/c he’s after VII & they don’t give him a chance & listen! Like Taylor Tim Kennedy Hall. If you have the book & not share who wrote the would all agree this is Catholic!!
@poesia-com-cafeina
@poesia-com-cafeina Месяц назад
I am not Catholic but I am interested. Whenever I visit mass I noticed that no one genuflects. Is this something that people no longer do? I remember trying it out and a lady behind me kind of nose laughed, like a sneer and I felt a little embarrassed
@CatsHeartbeat
@CatsHeartbeat 4 года назад
The Little Number of Those Who Are Saved by St. Leonard of Port Maurice Saint Leonard of Port Maurice was a most holy Franciscan friar who lived at the monastery of Saint Bonaventure in Rome. He was one of the greatest missioners in the history of the Church. He used to preach to thousands in the open square of every city and town where the churches could not hold his listeners. So brilliant and holy was his eloquence that once when he gave a two weeks' mission in Rome, the Pope and College of Cardinals came to hear him. The Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin, the adoration of the Blessed Sacrament and the veneration of the Sacred Heart of Jesus were his crusades. He was in no small way responsible for the definition of the Immaculate Conception made a little more than a hundred years after his death. He also gave us the Divine Praises, which are said at the end of Benediction. But Saint Leonard's most famous work was his devotion to the Stations of the Cross. He died a most holy death in his seventy-fifth year, after twenty-four years of uninterrupted preaching. One of Saint Leonard of Port Maurice's most famous sermons was "The Little Number of Those Who Are Saved." It was the one he relied on for the conversion of great sinners. This sermon, like his other writings, was submitted to canonical examination during the process of canonization. In it he reviews the various states of life of Christians and concludes with the little number of those who are saved, in relation to the totality of men. The reader who meditates on this remarkable text will grasp the soundness of its argumentation, which has earned it the approbation of the Church. Here is the great missionary's vibrant and moving sermon. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j0t-rc2eF6E.html
@MrKev1664
@MrKev1664 4 года назад
peace be with you Bishop Barron was a respected teacher amongst Catholic. This is what makes His Excellency comment so terrible. It is far more dangerous to Catholics to have a respected bishop teach false than a protestant teacher we know teaches false. His does not merely say " Dare we hope" but that "we may reasonably hope that all people will be brought to heaven" There is no evidence for this hope. We may hope for this and pray for it because God wants all me to be saved (2 Tim 2L1-4) but it is no a reasonable one given Jesus's teaching. People have heard the truth from him and will assume this is true. This teaching is as bad if not worse than "faith alone" because it does not even have the requirement of believing in God. Both have a fruit of apathy to love and obedience. And whereas indeed he was the Son of God, he learned obedience by the things which he suffered: And being consummated, he became, to all that obey him, the cause of eternal salvation. (Heb 5:8-9) Bishop Barron has become the banner around which universalist gather to tell us there is no hell. And do not dismiss the carrot and the stick so lightly, Jesus seem to use this in Matt 25:31-46 When I left a comment on His Excellency Bishop Barrons page about the dangers of this teaching he flippantly dismisses me saying He will stop teaching it when the Church stops asking him to pray for it. When I asked him is the Church telling him there is a reasonable hope of it he stopped answering. It is though they what Christ teaching we must find our hope, not in invented ones. Bishop Barron needs to correct this teaching. Please pray for me God bless you
@geneparadiso4203
@geneparadiso4203 3 года назад
Too many priests are “nice” and don’t want to ruffle feathers. The Laity is begging fir strong priests who aren’t afraid to call it like it is. God bless Fr. James Altman.
@rosannazink9140
@rosannazink9140 3 года назад
I agree completely, that is why I unsubscribed from Bishop Barron and I am looking to different charities to donate instead of the Catholic Church. too much confusion w/ papa Francesco, and even father Goring defending the bishop. difficult times ahead.
@tobiaskyon5383
@tobiaskyon5383 3 года назад
One of the greatest dangers to the soul in the west today is some kind of opinionated narcissism. And I think you're falling for exactly that. Who are you to decide what's right or wrong? Vatican 2 was pretty clear regarding other religions, and even that should show you that there are no definitive answers, as much as you'd like to get them. That is why we trust in God first and foremost, and not ourselves. And if you really listen, knowing about God what you know, do you REALLY think that being a Buddhist, for example, means automatic damnation? Sure, hell is a real place that can be felt even in this life, hell is the place of being afar from the light of God, but who are you to decide who's there and who's not?
@argelbargel7680
@argelbargel7680 3 года назад
Agree completely.
@FlowLai
@FlowLai 3 года назад
Fr. James Altman is one of the most narcissistic and dangerous preachers in the Church today. He uses the pulpit as his personal stand to air out his grievances with the culture. His preaching is more about regurgitating the Republican platform than it is about proclaiming the Living Word. To this day, I have never seen an example where he actually exegetes the readings. No thanks. I go to Church to be sanctified. We don't need Rush Limbaugh at the pulpit.
@joeytavez7055
@joeytavez7055 3 года назад
@@FlowLai Unfortunately, Politics need to be preached at the pulpit because the times call for it. But keep doing you and continue to live in ignorant bliss.
@chrispolen2712
@chrispolen2712 2 года назад
Much of this is over my head- I’m 52 yo - late to the game - but becoming increasingly Catholic. Robert Barron has had a huge positive influence on me. I didn’t know he had so many detractors…?
@jasonmarquard4601
@jasonmarquard4601 2 года назад
He brought me into the Church. But I think this conversation is interesting and qualifies as intra-Catholic dialogue.
@brucebarber4104
@brucebarber4104 2 года назад
There are many people, myself included, who appreciate the work of Bishop Barron. Don't let the detractors discourage you.
@cynthialoverofchrist1580
@cynthialoverofchrist1580 2 года назад
I don’t think there’s such a thing as being “too late” to the faith. We all grow and learn at different paces. I converted to Catholicism at 18 and 50 years later still learning. ❤️ As long as we continue saying Yes to God it’s all part of His plan. Bishop Barron, Fr. Mike Schmitz, Fr. Calloway, and Matt Fradd are terrific people to learn from. Years ago I’ve even attended several RCIA classes and now I take Bible studies through Ascension Press. We are all a work in progress.
@jasonmarquard4601
@jasonmarquard4601 2 года назад
@@cynthialoverofchrist1580 nice message Cynthia. I’m so grateful to be on the journey now.
@johnsposato5632
@johnsposato5632 2 года назад
EVERYONE who has a public presence will have detractors. The greater that presence, the greater the number of detractors. IMHO.
@historybuff5994
@historybuff5994 3 года назад
Good discussion. We all have flaws and need to watch our theology!
@Anthony-vx6cs
@Anthony-vx6cs 4 года назад
Fr. Schmitz is excellent in his responses to things like this; concise and to the point. I'd be excited if His Excellency, Bishop Barron, would converse with TnT at some point in the future too, like you guys mention here. Bishop Barron is not an enemy, nor is TnT. The key is to have these conversations to "bridge the gap" between various Catholics, much like you, Matt Fradd, have tried to do with Michael Voris and Timothy Gordon, who are both excellent faithful Catholics. We need dialogue so that we can understand the Faith better ourselves. But certainly to refuse this dialogue and not converse with people who are only trying to defend the Faith, is harmful. Looking forward to their (TnT's and the Bishop's) conversation to clear this thing up!
@bpcathcrusader4952
@bpcathcrusader4952 4 года назад
Aurelius Augustine H. TnT are very close being schismatics and by attacking Bishop Barron, the Pauline Mass, Vatican 2, Pope Francis, writing the book Infiltration which peddles conspiracy theories, they are going off to the fringe and disconnected from the Holy Catholic ( Universal) and Apostolic Church we profess in the Nicene Creed.
@meredithc4735
@meredithc4735 4 года назад
Tnt has reached out to bishop Barron but the bishop removed their online invitation for a chat. You can look up tnt bishop Barron to hear them talk about it
@Anthony-vx6cs
@Anthony-vx6cs 4 года назад
@@bpcathcrusader4952 Did you listen to the entire video with Father Schmitz? It is charitable (far from schismatic) to correct people when they are wrong, especially those with influence such as His Excellency, Bishop Barron. With regard to the New Mass, Vatican 2, and His Holiness, Pope Francis, TnT criticizes only those things that are "un-Catholic" or could be seen as hostile to that Faith (such as erroneous statements). This would include desecration of Altar rails in the name of Vatican 2, or the use of Extraordinary Ministers of Communion even when they're not needed. These things are in fact counter to the Church's teaching, but have been pushed by people who misinterpret Vatican 2. With regard to Infiltration, there are actually renowned Theologians and Cardinals who agree with some aspects of the book - would you care to site anything specific in the book that you found obviously false? In that case I would have to do my own research. But it seems to me you may be trying to smear a few good Catholic Theologians (TnT), which would be unfortunate and rather uncharitable.
@row1landr
@row1landr 4 года назад
@@bpcathcrusader4952 there are no conspiracy theories. Michael Voris can prove this he has made videos showing all of the conectioms. Bella Dodd was a communist spy and helped homosexuals infiltrate the priesthood to destroy the Catholic Church. Also, the Freemasons want to destroy the church. They have infiltrated. There is a Catholic Lighthouse CD all about the Masons. And the war in Mexico in the 1920s happened when the Freemasons killed thousands of Catholics Saint Maximilian Kolbe faught the Masons. All of these things are true and they have been proven. Read what Pope Leo 13th had to say about the Masons. They have especially infiltrated the Jesuit order. God help us!
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
@@bpcathcrusader4952 ☆
@christinepesta3706
@christinepesta3706 4 года назад
Thank you for this one! Bishop Barron does so many things beautifully and he is fascinating to listen to - BUT - as TnT pointed out, people need to know where the problem is, and to be warned about it. Thanks to them, people do now know, and I'm still hoping that B. Barron will correct what he has said. It would be different if he were not a bishop... Thank God He has made His Body to have many parts!!!
@pattyocadiz6614
@pattyocadiz6614 4 года назад
I agree. Bishop Barron needs to correct what he has said. I used to listen to him...but now I shy away from anything he preaches. I pray for him.
@UnratedAwesomeness
@UnratedAwesomeness 4 года назад
​@@pattyocadiz6614 I don't think you need to abandon him completely. He's very wise, but no one is immune to error.
@TheZbun
@TheZbun 4 года назад
What did he say?
@cameronmurray4479
@cameronmurray4479 4 года назад
Patty Ocadiz I’m right there with you. His interview with Shapiro was the last straw for me. I’ve tended to avoid him as a result. It’s a shame.
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
Christine Pesta, There are lots of people who will see everywhere what they are looking for even when nothing is there.
@outofoblivionproductions4015
@outofoblivionproductions4015 4 года назад
While it may be the body healing itself, the rebuke from the trads was not gentle and friendly, which we are told is the character of Wisdom.
@elitisthavoc3949
@elitisthavoc3949 2 года назад
St. John Vianney, St. John Bosco, Fulton Sheen, St. Peter Damian, Saint Augustine, St. Mary of Egypt, St. Catherine of Siena, St. Aloysius Gonzaga, pray for us.
@maryannemuriithi5652
@maryannemuriithi5652 3 года назад
It would be so nice to watch fr. mike & bishop barron together.
@emilianojustice5566
@emilianojustice5566 4 года назад
*Sparkling Water. Me: Hmmm
@spidernymph8964
@spidernymph8964 4 года назад
Same.😂
@RuffLifeGoldens
@RuffLifeGoldens 3 года назад
It says it right in the bottle. He drinks the same water in every episode.
@AndrewKendall71
@AndrewKendall71 4 года назад
This is some good initial clarification for a question I posed over on one of Fr Mike's videos. It does make me wonder then, how much of a disciple's life (in pursuit of faithfulness to Christ and his Church) can have heresy present before it goes from a matter of "things aren't so good" to "we can't even affirm this person is Christian".
@christopherneedham9584
@christopherneedham9584 2 года назад
When they deny Jesus Chris as coming in the flesh. 2 John 7-11
@AndrewKendall71
@AndrewKendall71 2 года назад
@@christopherneedham9584 That makes brothers of most of the global church throughout history. I'm definitely prone to agree and believe such explicit teaching in scripture. But I find quite a few people in different true denominations who would say, "Well, yes, buuuut...."
@SowerOfMustardSeed
@SowerOfMustardSeed 4 года назад
We can all dare to hope hell is empty because we are proud to hope that everyone at their last moment has repented and embrace our Lord’s mercy one way or another. That’s faith, hope and love. But I agree that Bishop Barron should have a dedicated clarification WOF episode.
@jeremiahong248
@jeremiahong248 4 года назад
@ Silvester W. This is an idealistic hope. I hope all will think like you. My brother in law's dad died unreconcilied to the Church. Didn't have a Catholic funeral . Suggest he may not have reconciled to God too.
@SowerOfMustardSeed
@SowerOfMustardSeed 4 года назад
Jeremiah Ong in that case, I just hope that your brother-in-law’s dad somehow managed to start reconciling with God at his last breath. 🙏🏼
@SowerOfMustardSeed
@SowerOfMustardSeed 2 года назад
@TruthSeeker75 omg u honestly think that we objectively think that hell is empty? It’s a prayer to God. It’s a wish that we will all turn good. Don’t you get it? Omg
@SowerOfMustardSeed
@SowerOfMustardSeed 2 года назад
@TruthSeeker75 you still didn’t get it. “Dare I hope” is never a doctrine. It’s a wish. It’s a prayer to God. It’s an attitude that if we turn to God, everyone can be saved.
@SowerOfMustardSeed
@SowerOfMustardSeed 2 года назад
@TruthSeeker75 we dare hope hell is empty is a spirituality, rather than a doctrine. Jesus clearly said that many will not pass through the narrow gate. So it is a fact that many died and will die in a state of dispositioning themselves fundamentally misaligned with God, in other words “in hell”. So what’s the purpose of this spirituality that we dare hope hell is empty? The significance is that this is to believe in the power, mercy and love of God that His plan is for everyone to be saved and no one is beyond salvation, even the monsters you mentioned, as long as they repent and accept our Lord before they die. This is the gospels. This is the good news we Catholics should bring to the world! What is the chance that Judas Iscariot, Nero, Hitler, etc. have repented and accepted our Lord before drawing their last breath? Very unlikely. It is because they dispositioned themselves in many ways contrary to God’s way all their lives. This “bad habit” - a habit of sin is never easy to overcome to say the least. So my opinion is that even if or when Jesus appeared to them just before they died, they would likely have grown more angry and repugnant to have found out that they had been wrong all their life. They would probably have been very mad with Jesus why have God made them that way. They would probably have blamed God that it’s not their fault that God didn’t make it clear to them. Et Cetera. Then they couldn’t help but to have freely rejected Jesus. Having said all this. The truth is I don’t know. No one knows except for God. And therefore I can still dare hope that hell is empty. It’s not a doctrinal or matter of fact statement, but a spirituality that strengthens our total reliance on God and our best effort to cooperate with God. I hope you understand now.
@maritheresereyes
@maritheresereyes 4 года назад
I was a big fan of Bishop Barron but I was extremely bothered that he was unsure about exorcisms, given that being an exorcist is part of his office as a bishop. I saw him comment on this on 'The Devil and Fr. Amorth' on Netflix. Aghast that how can a bishop hold this view. I listen to TnT as well with the same caution as I do Bishop Barron.
@SowerOfMustardSeed
@SowerOfMustardSeed 4 года назад
Mari Therese Reyes why were you bothered by that? He was being humble by publicly admitting that he’s not spiritually sufficiently strong to conduct exorcism.
@BlessedThursday-1901
@BlessedThursday-1901 4 года назад
@@SowerOfMustardSeed that's not a good thing. We have a right to let him know to get up to date and spiritually strong...like he is supposed to be. A table with three legs is a useless table. A bishop that is not ready to g that against the devil seems to be .... let's say...not doing good or living up to his calling
@SowerOfMustardSeed
@SowerOfMustardSeed 4 года назад
Daniel Alexander what do you mean by “to get him up to date”? I’ve read Fr Amorth’s two books. It takes very much to be an effective exorcist. Not all bishops are made to be an effective exorcist. He realized his limitations and wouldn’t force his way, lest potentially causing more harm. It’s the bishop’s role to assign the best persons to be exorcists.
@bobgriffin423
@bobgriffin423 4 года назад
@@SowerOfMustardSeed I agree. I was speaking with a priest from Uganda, questioning him on why his particular Bishop does not exorcise such and such (the question was respectful and made sense to the priest) but the priest responded that the Bishop, as a typical Bishop forced to be an administrator, is not well disposed to spiritual combat any more. What if, in dealing with a difficult priest that day, he had lost some patience and had exceedingly scolded the priest, or some such pecadillio. Or if he had committed some other minor offence because he is so busy having to administer his Diocese and is in constant dialogue with constant opportunity to skip up, but with no time for fasting, praying and preparation. Our poor Bishop's need to delegate this role to a priest who is tasked with making this preparation. Maybe an ecclesia reform can repair this. After all, the Bishop is meant to be our pastor, not our manager
@BlessedThursday-1901
@BlessedThursday-1901 4 года назад
@@SowerOfMustardSeed if the head exorcist of the diocese thinks he is not effective, then his thinking is wrong. Only Jesus is effective in the exorcism. It's not an X-MEN thing. The office itself is effective because it's connected to God. However, reality is what it is...maybe a bishop is too spiritually weak...maybe there is something not proper within him and fighting Satan will do more harm than good. The bishop has the authority over the demon but he for whatever reason...can't use it...meh
@johnjumper7066
@johnjumper7066 4 года назад
Father Mike thanks for taking up for the Bishop so tired of the clowns at the circus.
@mrs.cracker4622
@mrs.cracker4622 3 года назад
Flannery O'Connor's home in Savannah is directly across from the cathedral. Its well worth a visit once things open up again.
@DiggerWhoops
@DiggerWhoops 11 месяцев назад
Bishop Barron is articulate, compelling, knowledgeable, and he wraps it all up in a Chicago swag that is thought-provoking, irresistible, and inspires one to learn more.
@munenex
@munenex 4 года назад
Luke 13:23-24 [23]Someone said to him, 'Sir, will there be only a few saved?' He said to them, [24]'Try your hardest to enter by the narrow door, because, I tell you, many will try to enter and will not succeed.
@streamscreen
@streamscreen 3 года назад
Romans 5:18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.
@brucebarber4104
@brucebarber4104 2 года назад
From the Lord's Prayer: "...Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done..." Also from the Bible: "First of all, then, I ask that supplications, prayers, petitions, and thanksgivings be offered for everyone, for kings and for all in authority, that we may lead a quiet and tranquil life in all devotion and dignity. This is good and pleasing to God our savior, who wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth." 1 Timothy 2:1-4 And: "The Lord does not delay his promise, as some regard “delay,” but he is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9
@streamscreen
@streamscreen 2 года назад
@@brucebarber4104 I definitely agree with what you say,but the Bible does make mention of all being save,and I don’t ignore those words .I have a feeling all will be eventually saved even the dammed,but I’m not God and don’t know.My advice to anyone is to live a holy life,live for God and love others the best you can and trust in Gods goodness and love after that.Thanks for the reply!
@kaistigerboy
@kaistigerboy 4 года назад
Bishop Barron needs to be clear that there is a Hell period , that’s all Dr Taylor was pointing out ,hopefully Bishop will retract his comment and teach his children there is a Hell and anybody who is in a state of mortal sin can be condemned according to what Jesus says in the Bible.I would like to add I have heard bishop Barron talks on other topics and found it really good, unfortunately in our times with modernist watering down our faith we get a little nervous when we hear another comment which creates ambiguity
@EC-rd9ys
@EC-rd9ys 4 года назад
Well the whole beginning of the video was about how origen was wrong for saying that all souls definitely will be saved.
@MrAquinas1
@MrAquinas1 4 года назад
He has spoken about hell, publicly, thousands of times.
@Thefloridarepublic
@Thefloridarepublic 4 года назад
Then why would he say what he did?
@patrickjoeodwyer
@patrickjoeodwyer 4 года назад
We already know that many souls are in hell. We don’t know who these souls are. Question bishop Barron, are there souls in hell? If he says no souls are in hell then he is in error.
@lionheart5078
@lionheart5078 4 года назад
@@patrickjoeodwyer he has never even come close to this statment.
@user-ll7fv6tu7k
@user-ll7fv6tu7k 4 года назад
The man has dedicated his entire life and considerable talents to the Church and spreading of the Gospel. Show a little charity, folks. If you disagree with the way he characterizes a certain teaching, politely engage him. He has proven that he is perfectly willing to do so. No one is perfect. Cut this holy Bishop some slack.
@jepkemei
@jepkemei 2 года назад
Thanks for such a beautiful message. We really should try to see the good. No one is perfect
@think2146
@think2146 Год назад
Speak for yourself , I am perfect . God has said so . After all he made me in his own image so why wouldn't I be perfect ?
@janethilger9781
@janethilger9781 Год назад
@@think2146 I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but we are all perfectly created by God. So in a sense we are all perfect. However, God has given us all free will and we humans have unfortunately chosen to fall from that state of perfection.
@think2146
@think2146 Год назад
@@janethilger9781 And there you see he/she is just a stupid as we are . There was no need to give us free will that I can see . Unless of course it was simply for his/her enjoyment .
@janethilger9781
@janethilger9781 Год назад
@@think2146 what is love if you cannot choose to love? Slavery? God gave us freewill so we can choose to love Him. He does not want to force his hand because he loves us. You and I have a finite mind and we won't understand the joy we would miss out without our freewill. God does enjoy seeing us choose Him, but he is equally hurt when we reject Him.
@andoylanggid
@andoylanggid 4 года назад
I listen to all you guys. Bishop Barron, the converts, the rightwingers, the ordinary guys, basically I'm a catholic Catholic. Some people think we are chaotic. I believe that if you stay within the boundaries of the Church, you can find your own space. Your own niche if you will. God bless.
@josephzammit6396
@josephzammit6396 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FJb1x3BoOvY.html
@Jenabb27
@Jenabb27 4 года назад
Bishop Barron strikes me as a highly intellectual person that is quite open to information and learning not just about the faith but about the world as a whole. He is effective because he doesn't build up walls. He isn't scared to pull in references from today's world to give examples or further explain the catholic position. There's two things. His abstractions are sometimes very theological, profound and require a mind attuned to that type of intellectualism. If you're not into very deep analysis and correlations, you may end up misinterpreting what he says. ALSO, as a species, we have a tendency to prefer the comfort of what is familiar and we surround ourselves with people who share our opinions and views. We end up living in a bubble (ie. confirmation bias). Any window to the outside, any introduction or study of an outside topic, any line of "modern" questioning is seen as the enemy. That type of behavior is contrary to the call to evangelize. In order to invite people in, you have to speak about things they are familiar with. Of course, always inkeeping with Church teaching. For one, I think Bishop Barron does a stellar job at that. His language is precise and he often uses words for their root meaning rather than the implied subtext society has tacked onto them overtime. His writing style is akin to scholarly journals. Also, everything Word on Fire puts out has great production quality. Something more catholic outlets should learn to do (*shutters at the cheesyness of some of our media) Overall, I have learned quite a lot from him and am grateful for his work. Pax domini!
@itsallgoodbro6151
@itsallgoodbro6151 4 года назад
We cannot reasonably hope that all souls will be saved!
@domhamai
@domhamai Год назад
I think it’s closer to think that for every 1 soul that will enter directly to heaven, 99 will see hellfire.
@fenderrlee
@fenderrlee 2 года назад
Just watch Bishop Barron videos ...they speak Volumes.... and are drawing teenagers and younger members of the Church ..who have left, dis affiliated or close to it..back into the Faith..my 20 year old Son Jacob is one of them...for that ..I owe Bishop Barron tears of gratitude ..coming to his defense is not needed
@brucebarber4104
@brucebarber4104 2 года назад
Tim Clasen, ignore truthseeker75, it's a 3 month old troll account and a sedevacantist who rejects Vatican Council II and every Pope after Pius XII.
@ChicagoIL50
@ChicagoIL50 4 года назад
Pray that our faith is not tested....seems to be happening far worse than we thought. We all need heroic faith📿🙏
@simonford5399
@simonford5399 3 года назад
Bishop Barron is a brilliant man , I have learnt much from him, Dr Taylor Marshall is also a brilliant man I have learnt alot from him. I would love to see these guys have a dialogue, to hash things out. A debate if you like.
@joesmo2087
@joesmo2087 3 года назад
Can't have a debate when Bishop Barron blocked Dr. Marshall on Twitter.
@gabemelgoza2709
@gabemelgoza2709 2 года назад
Taylor Marshall doesn’t even debate cause he poosy
@marie22tully10
@marie22tully10 4 года назад
I love Bishop Barron and Dr. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. They may be disagreeing on this point but I feel all three are true Catholics.
@michaelgetz6554
@michaelgetz6554 4 года назад
@@tomthx5804 No, they are following the teachings of the magisterium.
@shaunsaega
@shaunsaega 4 года назад
@@jacobweber7078 He is delusional. Simple.
@pdeleon3365
@pdeleon3365 3 года назад
Matt Frad, you make a good point that T. Marshall should have a dialogue with Barron. However, the bishop has quite literally blocked him online and has explicitly said he refuses to give Marshall the time of day, even though Marshall has offered to have Barron on his show, etc. So, who's really not listening to whom here?
@davidroelands1979
@davidroelands1979 3 года назад
Marshall has reached out to Barron several times and he was blocked by Barron. Barron acts like he has something to hide.
@veroniquestrange4244
@veroniquestrange4244 4 года назад
Bishop Barron is reaching the people who will never be reached otherwise. He is extremely articulate and courageous and I feel we need many more Bishops like him. You will never appeal to the intellectual elites staying safely " between Catholics".
@MacheteMambi
@MacheteMambi 3 года назад
Barron blocked @drtaylormarshall. He can't debate an intellectual of the church. Phoney infiltrated novus order modernist priests..that are simply not leaders..soft and unfortunately many are effeminate..most alpha men are simply not attracted to these priest or the church office lady run novus ordo parishes with the Peter Paul and Mary 1960s hippie jesuit music..sorry give me TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS
@ftsmith351
@ftsmith351 4 года назад
The higher up you go, the more people can snipe at you! A sad part of life.
@kathleenasadourian6869
@kathleenasadourian6869 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this! I was so confused and worried when I listened to another evangelist say that Bishop Barron was a heretic. I loved when you said, “find another enemy”.
@cherylhartley3025
@cherylhartley3025 2 года назад
A true disciple of Jesus will always be insulted. Evil spirits will always try to bring Bishop Baron down. Jealousy.
@louisleycuras8357
@louisleycuras8357 2 года назад
bishop Robert Barron helped to answer basically all of my questions about catholicism. I probably would have left to become a protestant if it weren't for him. I would be pretty happy if he became pope.
@ragejinraver
@ragejinraver 2 года назад
Am not gonna say that Bishop Barron is bad wlth everything that he does . But let's be honest with ourselves hes a modernist who looks up to Balthasar . Who was extremely heretical . Not to mention he wrote the forward to a book about Tarot cards
@louisleycuras8357
@louisleycuras8357 2 года назад
@TruthSeeker75 Vatican II was not at all heretical. have you even read the documents from it? it is an incredible work of faith and it was meant to make catholics more efficient at evangelising but it got misunderstood.
@louisleycuras8357
@louisleycuras8357 2 года назад
@TruthSeeker75 well while I don't agree with some of the things you have claimed are heresy, you did make a good point with the pope Pius quotes. I still think that muslims and jews believe in the same God even if they have a warped view of God. I'll look into more articles of Vatican II.
@brucebarber4104
@brucebarber4104 2 года назад
@@louisleycuras8357, ignore truthseeker75, it is a 3 month old troll account. The person behind the account is a sedevacantist who rejects Vatican Council II and every Pope after Pius XII. Such people have incurred a latae sententiae excommunication. A search of the phrase 'sedvacantism heresy' will include a link to an article entitled, "Can you be a Catholic and a sedevacantist?" from the Canon Law Made Easy website that will aid your research. God bless.
@colmwhateveryoulike3240
@colmwhateveryoulike3240 3 года назад
I think daring to hope is sort of necessary to conduct the great commission. I also like to remember the story of Jonah and how seemingly certain prophecies are themselves tools of change that can lead to an alternate outcome. It's not that God changes His mind but that His mind changes everything. It's enough mystery for hope to thrive, maybe?
@jeffrourke2322
@jeffrourke2322 3 года назад
Also, a bit of intellectual honesty is in order here. No one knows where anyone is going, nor the exact criteria for getting there. I really wish people would stop speaking so authoritatively on these things. Men like Bishop Barron and David Bentley Hart, who are intellectual giants in the field, are at least honest enough to admit that they don't know. What we need less of are these moral judgments on strangers. Let he without sin in his heart cast the first stone.
@mattkotulski437
@mattkotulski437 3 года назад
You are correct to say you don't know as long as you admit you have no faith. The problem is those who claim faith in Christ are also claiming that we don't know where most souls go. Christ said many are called but few are chosen.
@maryloudancel7914
@maryloudancel7914 2 года назад
@Juan Flores We certainly cannot judge others whether they make it to heaven or not. We can only hope that we get clear directions from those who have been blessed to enter the vocation of the priesthood and help us get there. I do not get that from the Bishop. He is eloquent, rich in information, impressive in knowledge, able to relate to modern thinkers but those are not the function of priesthood. I do not feel his pastoral side. I am just in awe.
@monicafloreani5487
@monicafloreani5487 3 года назад
"Daring to Hope" is a very catholic thing to do, in my opinion. Judging is solely up to God. Love BB & love Fr. Mike, too. And of course, Matt, as well.
@jamesduque880
@jamesduque880 3 года назад
" Dare to Hope" isnt the right sentiment. We know not all people go to heaven. The church says this in her Councils, and even Jesus says it in the Bible. Its a stupid sentiment, and its not realistic.
@kencv9400
@kencv9400 3 года назад
👍👍👍
@spiderdxn2263
@spiderdxn2263 2 года назад
I'm a fan of both Matt and Fr. Mike but this was frustrating because neither men have read Dare We Hope and both are critiquing arguments that neither the book, von Balthasar nor Bishop Barron make.
@sharonalberque5301
@sharonalberque5301 2 года назад
We need both BpB and TM. Both have distinct gifts that bring many to the faith.
@rjsledz
@rjsledz 4 года назад
I think Bishop Barron is sometimes "too careful." He is too fearful too cut through the fog of confusion with clarity and conciseness WHEN required.
@margokupelian344
@margokupelian344 2 года назад
So true. I made the same comment myself some time ago. Yes, he IS too careful. Maybe he’s too concerned about being liked and accepted by as many people as possible. But I like his logic, his knowledge and his skills to talk about difficult topics. Sometimes my feeling is that he doesn’t hit the nail on the head...
@graysonhoward1562
@graysonhoward1562 2 года назад
@@margokupelian344 Barron isn’t a fishing rod, he’s a fishing net.
@gabemelgoza2709
@gabemelgoza2709 2 года назад
@@graysonhoward1562 amen
@gabemelgoza2709
@gabemelgoza2709 2 года назад
@@margokupelian344 he ain’t afraid. He’s brilliant
@dhdanko5
@dhdanko5 2 года назад
@@margokupelian344 can you state an example where he was "too careful"
@randommam58
@randommam58 4 года назад
Happily surprised by Fr. Mikes response. I always kind of lumped him in with Barron and others. I will have to watch the rest of the interview.
@randommam58
@randommam58 4 года назад
And if anything this video is “in defense of TNT” by the discussion... soooo
@lionheart5078
@lionheart5078 4 года назад
Oh real bad to be lumped in with bishop barron.... What a great bishop!
@JPX7NGD
@JPX7NGD 4 года назад
@@lionheart5078 it is worse to be approved of by you, monster.
@210SAi
@210SAi 4 года назад
Lumped in with Bishop Barron and others......the clergy?
@ruthnoelmarie...9061
@ruthnoelmarie...9061 3 года назад
Oh looking forward to thos discussion of my two favs.
@jl2dobrzyn
@jl2dobrzyn 4 года назад
I have always understood Bishop Barron's underlying assertion - and this is only MY understanding - to be that the love and mercy of God is such that He could, in theory, purify all souls in a way after death that they would, most likely through a long and arduous process of purification in purgatory, be ready and open to His (Trinitarian) love. Truthfully, I think there are those who are so intransigent in their hatred and rejection of God that their salvation is unlikely. But impossible? Well, I cannot say anything is impossible with God.
@Eowyn3Pride
@Eowyn3Pride 4 года назад
I know this was some time ago but..."The Lord persecutes those that He loves..." If Bishop Barron is so attacked, and mostly from the inside, it causes me to get to know him more and find the "fruits of the labour". "By their deeds you know them"...Word on Fire...
@dominikpavelic5339
@dominikpavelic5339 4 года назад
Where did you find that quote "The Lord persecutes those that He loves"? Seems wrong.
@Eowyn3Pride
@Eowyn3Pride 4 года назад
@@dominikpavelic5339 I think it is bible related, though I'm unsure of the scripture reference. It's not to say that God is masochistic, but allows us to be tested to see our true faith in Him. Suffering is one of those things. Many if not all the Saints experienced a "trial by fire" so to speak, (that is a reference from Daniel, when the three, including Azariah were thrown into Nebuchadnezzar's furnace...) Hardships can improve resilience and build character. God builds our characters much the same way. Ex: I want a house...I'm going to earn money, build credit, and save so that I can get the house. I finally get the house, but a pandemic hits and I lose my job, causing me to miss mortgage payments...I then pray for work and the end of the pandemic...etc. God doesn't want bad thing to happen to us, but He allows it, if He sees it making us closer to Him...
@BradleyUK58
@BradleyUK58 3 года назад
No today it’s our churches on fire literally. Wake up.
@brucebarber4104
@brucebarber4104 2 года назад
@@Eowyn3Pride, are these the Bible passages? "For whom the LORD loves he reproves, as a father, the son he favors." -Proverbs 3:12 Also: “My son, do not disdain the discipline of the Lord or lose heart when reproved by him; for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines; he scourges every son he acknowledges." -Hebrews 12:5b-6
@Eowyn3Pride
@Eowyn3Pride 2 года назад
@@brucebarber4104 it's the refiner's fire...not to be confused with masochism. It's the 'Eyre of the Tiger' so to speak. How does an athlete succeed? A lot of hard work, pain and sufferings but triumphs also. 'Fruits of the Labour' so to speak.
@aradhikas
@aradhikas 4 года назад
Good save at the end there, Matt.
@matthieulavagna
@matthieulavagna 4 года назад
Thank you so much guys
@sunshine8915
@sunshine8915 4 года назад
I had heard some bad things about Bishop Barron. I wasn't sure what to think. He didn't sound terrible, so I was confused. Thank you for clearing things up for me! 👍😊
@mariab.774
@mariab.774 3 года назад
Just watch some Barron's videos. You'll see he's awesome and completely faithful to Christ and his Church
@rubenmartinez4346
@rubenmartinez4346 4 года назад
I was a fan of Bishop Barrón but then saw a few of his videos especially when he’s speaking with Ben Shapiro. He’s a very smart man but very modern. I’m a simple man and love the traditional Catholicism where there is no icing on the cake.
@phoult37
@phoult37 4 года назад
His Shapiro interview was terrible. The following week Shapiro had on a Protestant minister, who had no problem at all speaking the Truth about Salvation through Jesus alone.
@lionheart5078
@lionheart5078 4 года назад
you would like him to just hit people on the with the Chatechism? thats called not having any sensitivity or common sense. Ive been Catholic all my life and am in no way liberal, and after watching his interviews with Ben shapiro i was impressed how well he spoke with wisdom but also truth. Absolutely, nothing wrong in those interviews.
@lionheart5078
@lionheart5078 4 года назад
@Surfdude12 1 I see you love to make general statements of condemnation but can never bring up a specific example of him stating an untruth.
@lionheart5078
@lionheart5078 4 года назад
@Surfdude12 1 he says salvation on whatever form is either knowingly or unknowingly through Christ. This is catholic doctrine, so again nothing new here.
@phoult37
@phoult37 4 года назад
@@lionheart5078 Sensitivity to what? Ben's brand line is "facts don't care about you're feelings;" should Barron not simply speak the facts then regarding Salvation through Jesus Christ alone? Or do you not think that factual?
@brendenwalters8475
@brendenwalters8475 3 года назад
I wish we had a bishop like Barron in Australia. His teaching on the Real Presence is wonderful. G'day Mate.
@daveerhardt1879
@daveerhardt1879 3 года назад
I'm not a fan of Bishop Barron, you might regret that.
@rickdockery9620
@rickdockery9620 3 года назад
You can have him
@waldensmith4796
@waldensmith4796 2 года назад
Great Show recently I did an audit and critique on my Pastors message attacking Protests involving churches Pastors and Christians and pointed out many errors in his message to him to educate him.
@paulstrassell1337
@paulstrassell1337 2 года назад
Thank you for defending Fr. BARRON, Father
@jorge-j-delgado-acevedo
@jorge-j-delgado-acevedo 4 года назад
Bishop Barron says many problematic things like this. This needs to be corrected, and I am soooooooo glad that TNT is willing to correct these types of statements in charity. Very few people are willing to take these errors on nowadays.
@GeorgePenton-np9rh
@GeorgePenton-np9rh 4 года назад
@@fathermikeschmitz4355 There is a huge difference between praying that all willed be saved, a good thing to do, and falsely hoping that all will be saved, when saint after saint----and Jesus Himself---say that most people go to Hell. "O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those most in need of Your mercy."
@lionheart5078
@lionheart5078 4 года назад
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh we can also hope for it, absolutely nothing wrong. Jesus says many will go to hell but then also says what is impossible for man is possible for God. Absolutely nothing wrong with Bishop barrons statment.
@iliya3110
@iliya3110 4 года назад
In a nutshell, people on this channel define faith and hope as "I can have faith a chair will hold me. Hope is actually going over and sitting on it." I'll go over and sit on the chair of confidence in the boundless limits of God's merciful love which are able to surpass canonical understanding and if the chair fails to hold my weight, I'll even have the hope the God will catch me as I cry out to him pleading for mercy. This hope is unreasonable, but it's built on childlike trust in the Divine Mercy. "Jesus I trust in You." Have I said universalism is true? Definitely not. Do I think it is? No. Does it matter what I think? Not really. The marching orders are the same. Pick up your cross and strive through the narrow gate. Furthermore, God is a good Father who gives good gifts and He's far more good than we tend to think He is because we struggle to trust Him.
@jorge-j-delgado-acevedo
@jorge-j-delgado-acevedo 4 года назад
fathermike schmitz Father Mike, thanks for sharing this with me. I watched Bishop Barron in his explanation, but now I am more confused than before. I think I understand what he is trying to explain, or “walk back”, but now I see that it is (or sounds) in conflict with what he said in his interview with Ben Shapiro about this same subject. I wish the clergy would say the truth clearly, without fear of what the world will say about them. I stopped going to the Novus Ordo Masses last year and now attend the FSSP Masses in Houston, TX in part because of this (and reverence, and respect for the Eucharist, and sacredness, and holiness, etc., etc.). Most of the homilies in the NO are about temporal concerns and about feelings (subjective). After attending the TLM, I see a stark difference in what is taught and how it is taught between the two forms. I have learned more about the Catholic Faith over the last year since attending the TLM and watching the Sensus Fidelium channel and Taylor Marshall on RU-vid than the previous 47 years of my life. I pray for you and all the priests in the world every day. Thank you for your sacrifice, thank you for your priesthood. Jorge.
@jorge-j-delgado-acevedo
@jorge-j-delgado-acevedo 4 года назад
Lion Heart I don’t think anyone can hope that everyone will be saved. This is not reasonable, especially when considered with Sacred Scripture and Tradition in the background. Why would anyone hope that everyone has been saved? I can understand someone hoping that many will be saved, but hoping that “all” will be saved smells like universal salvation, which the church condemns. There is no such thing as universal salvation. All this discussion about hoping that all will be saved is certainly creating a lot of confusion, and God is not the father of confusion.
@SaintPatrickRelEd
@SaintPatrickRelEd 4 года назад
Having read Balthasar's book, I feel compelled to mention that it BEGINS by saying we will all be judged. That is not a "get out of jail free" card by any means. We will be judged. For all their professed piety, Taylor Marshall & Timothy Gordon (neither of whom hold degrees in Catholic theology) will be judged - and who is to say what sins they will need to answer for to Jesus? Balthasar never lets you forget that Hell is a reality. However, his careful examination of Biblical and patristic sources makes it clear that it is God's will is that all will be saved. That is a powerful force to reckon with, and hard for any person to thwart, but it is possible. God will not force Salvation on us. We can still land ourselves in Hell. The key to Balthasar's analysis of the words spoken by Jesus in the Gospels is to distinguish between the pre-resurrection and post-resurrection message he delivers. If you proof-text without attending to the, context, and treat it all as the same, you are tacitly implying that Christ's sacrifice on the Cross had no merit - that the world did not fundamentally changed on Easter morning.
@rc3088
@rc3088 2 года назад
@ Dan Carolo. Agreed. Far too many automatically agree with Bishop Barron, with no questions asked. If he is aware of the confusion then HE should clear it up.
@isamedicin
@isamedicin 4 года назад
Liked the video because of father. Matt, I think you should make another video clarifying your position.
@nicholasdolinger6745
@nicholasdolinger6745 4 года назад
Of course we “dare hope” for the salvation of all souls, it’s literally written in the O My Jesus.
@iliya3110
@iliya3110 4 года назад
This fact is conveniently not addressed by the Bishop's critics. Sometimes I think we overthink things. If I were to look any given person and someone asked me if I hope they be saved, I'd say 'yes'. If you extended your hand over 50, 100, 500, 5 million, 7 billion, people and asked me if I hope they be saved, I would say 'yes'. It doesn't that they WILL be saved, but that I pray they will be and I leave the judgment to God, who's judgments are just and trustworthy. I'm confident Jesus hopes and desires all will be saved as well because he died for all men, but He also knows He can't force anybody and out of love He respects their free will. Where is the sin in hoping that all people will drink of the ocean of God's infinite mercy? If they refuse, then we must respect their choice, but otherwise, where is the error in interceding for the salvation of ALL souls. Our Lady of Fatima told us to do it... "Lead ALL souls to heaven..."
@nicholasdolinger6745
@nicholasdolinger6745 4 года назад
Surfdude12 1 Bro you’re being completely pedantic. You may interpret these words this way but Bishop Baron has no obligation to reason according to your pet definitions and analogies. It’s clear from context that he doesn’t advocate dropping the ball on evangelism like a universalist might, so he’s not advocating that we sit on this figurative chair.
@bumponalog5001
@bumponalog5001 4 года назад
@@iliya3110 This has been addresses the many times silly.
@marcokite
@marcokite 4 года назад
the 'O my Jesus prayer...' does NOT mean we can hope for this, the prayer is about people living now and the future and is praying for them/us but this does not mean everyone's going to be saved and doesn't apply to the already deceased anyway. Our Lord and Our Lady are both clear hell is not empty.
@marcokite
@marcokite 4 года назад
@@iliya3110 - in fact this has been addressed many times by the Bishop's critics (cf Taylor Marshall) , the 'O my Jesus prayer...' does NOT mean we can hope for this, the prayer is about people living now and the future and is praying for them/us but this does not mean everyone's going to be saved and doesn't apply to the already deceased anyway. Our Lord and Our Lady are both clear hell is not empty.
@squirrelknight4878
@squirrelknight4878 4 года назад
7:22 this part right here we should remember most and hope that those involved will be willing to hear each other out.
@BradleyUK58
@BradleyUK58 3 года назад
Our ‘sheperds’ don’t hear us out it we the laity that have to live with the shame many of them have brought on our church with their modernist nonsense.
@georgechristiansen6785
@georgechristiansen6785 2 года назад
I am not a Catholic myself, but I very much appreciate Bishop Robert Barron for all the ways you mention. Of course there should be corrective discussion of error, but regardless if all are ultimately saved or not: should there not be a "selling point" for the goodness of coming to Christ sooner rather than later? Entering into something greater than that which you are even escaping? In other words: it is quite sad if getting out of hell is the driving motivation for a Christian to live or evangelize when they allegedly are in relationship with Goodness and Perfection.
@Addy-1636
@Addy-1636 3 дня назад
Bishop B is the man. So is Fr Mike.. If someone thinks otherwise they are either evil or insanely ignorant
@opencurtin
@opencurtin 4 года назад
Bishop Barron along with Fr Mike are amazing communicators the Catholic Church are lucky to have them ...
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
Thank you for the positivity. God bless!
@kscheuerman5378
@kscheuerman5378 4 года назад
I know Mother Angelica would not appreciate what Bishop Barron has said, or didn't say. It is just not a complete teaching. People need to hear the whole truth in order to rectify their behavior. A luke warm or soft soap answer doesn't help anyone. On their own people will choose to sin, this answer does not help the sinner to see the truth and change his/her behavior. Sin keeps us from Our Savior! A Bishop is doing a disservice to the people he is required to help when he does this. The good Bishop has been confronted & has not clarified his response. I can't tell you how many priest's when asked about Hell would rather talk about HEAVEN. Please may I remind you, if the meaning of HELL is lessened, the reason Jesus died for our sins to give us Eternal life is also lessened!!! It is nice to share any number of stories where a person was moved in some good way after having contact with the Bishop. I am more concerned with the numbers of people who have fallen away from the church over the years due to extremely weak CATECHISM by Bishop Barron! The problem is he won't/hasn't come forward to clarify his response. The upset over this will continue until he does!! Why won't he?
@andrewf.castaneda4695
@andrewf.castaneda4695 4 года назад
I definitely agree! Bishop Barron has his followers and I don't begrudge anyone who believes in his eloquence of speech but after listening to may of his RU-vid videos and listening to some of his followers "parrot" most of what he teaches I started to REALLY listen and it turn out to be the same nuanced ambiguity that is so prevalent in some of the parishes I used to attend. After taking Bishop Barron's advice on his pick for good 20th century writers like Thomas Merton and reading Seven Story Mountain and A Search for Solitude, etc., it dawned on me that this guy had gone the way of "Eastern Mysticism" and that was all it took to trash his books. Matt Fradd can accuse people of CALUMNY but that only leaves the door for me to accuse him of complete STUPIDITY!!!
@astrol4b
@astrol4b 4 года назад
@@andrewf.castaneda4695 "if someone calls another one "stupid" or "crazy," he will be judged by the Sanhedrin"
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
K Scheuerman, More comfortable to wake up the dead than to make sure that what one is speaking is the best possible? Excellent example of how a whole lot is just following the crowd without even checking what is the crowd all about. Please know that Bishop Barron has indeed clarified. He has done more than that.
@kscheuerman5378
@kscheuerman5378 4 года назад
@@marypinakat8594 Too bad you were not very specific on exactly what he said in his clarification. If you did it would be clear if you know what you are talking about. To be straight up honest, all Iv'e seen him do is skirt the issue and decline or ignore invitations for interviews offered to clarify. He was invited recently to clarify with Dr. Marshall & Timothy Gordon and The invitation was taken down. WHY? Maybe you should watch Bishop Fulton sheen to see how it really should be done, especially in these times!!
@fathermikeschmitz4355
@fathermikeschmitz4355 4 года назад
This could be a helpful link: wordonfire.org/hope
@philspradley
@philspradley 4 года назад
I agree with Fr Schmitz. Dr Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon are not Bishop Barron's enemies, they are trying to help him with a filial correction of where he is in significant error. They are correcting him with overwhelming respect, I might add, if you listen to their video on it. They have respectfully challenged him to debate and discuss the differences. When you have someone who knowingly contradicts not just Aquinas, but both Aquinas and Augustine, you may want to check their logic rather than promulgate it.
@clattereffect
@clattereffect 3 года назад
I'm a cradle Catholic and I've recently come back to the faith after many years of being an atheist and anti-christian, it was people like Bishop Barron that brought me back and sure as hell Not Trads like Tim Gordon or Taylor Marshall.
@bigman7856
@bigman7856 4 года назад
People seem to really go hard on bishop Barron. It’s like people tend to go after him with 101% furry compared to someone like father James Martin. My thought as to why people are like this is because Bishop Barron is such a good shepherd to begin with. Any flaw is magnified 10x. Whereas with James Martin- he might say something heretical and our response is “well yes, of course. It’s Fr. James Martin.” What confuses me is that many people have grown to hate Bishop Barron all tougher. Somehow bishop Barron is now a full blown modernist, spouting heresy after heresy. I am drawn to a recent message by Michael Matt of the Remnant: “stop anathematizing each other and go at the real enemy.” Whether people want to admit it or not, I see Bishop Barron as an orthodox shepherd. I am also aware of the various faults he has.
@pokenaut7803
@pokenaut7803 4 года назад
The thing about Baron is that he could be a great ally but, with this heresy he rolls over to the modernist crowd. That’s why we are tough on him.
@nathanwilke6804
@nathanwilke6804 4 года назад
Bishop has the higher office than a Priest, so by that nature alone, we should desire complete authenticity on behalf of the Princes of the Church. Bishop Barron has had a couple public mishaps that I can recall that are due a public clarification. For starters the Balthazar comment as mentioned in the video, as well as the Ben Shapiro interview where he said Jesus is the privileged way, not the only way. As Matt Fradd and Fr. Mike have both said, yes he has done great work in evangelization as well as bringing forth a richness that stems from the tradition of the Church. However, it's legitimate form of fraternal correction to publicly correct an individual when the error was made publicly.
@pattyocadiz6614
@pattyocadiz6614 4 года назад
He is not orthodox if he's preaching that hell is empty.
@marypinakat8594
@marypinakat8594 4 года назад
Who doesn't have faults? I don't ever think God approves discussions of this sort.
@nathanwilke6804
@nathanwilke6804 4 года назад
Have you read scripture? Matthew 18:15-17.
@notsoserious0944
@notsoserious0944 4 года назад
I don't suppose that anybody saw the Bishop say that Christ is the "privileged way" to heaven when speaking with a Jewish man. He was clearly inferring that the man could avoid hell without Christ. Christ himself expressly taught the opposite; "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life." The Jewish man was very smart and nice, and overall a very good dude whom I'm sure God loves dearly. Why would Barron risk the man's salvation? Because he didn't wish to offend? Because he was unsure? Because he believes all good dudes go to heaven with or without Christ? I'm afraid he is going to have a very difficult particular judgement.
@morelmaster
@morelmaster 4 года назад
YOU: I don't suppose that anybody saw the Bishop say that Christ is the "privileged way" to heaven ME: What are you talking about, plenty of people saw it?
@phoult37
@phoult37 4 года назад
Barron cucked. Plain and simple.
@ams14691
@ams14691 3 года назад
Well thanks for explaining, did they ever get to the point? If so, I missed it.
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