In-Depth with a Vintage ARP 2600 Semi-Modular Analog Synthesizer 

Great story. Thanks for sharing, must have been amazing times.

A lot of folks hate on the B2600 but it’s great that people can afford good sounding instruments. If you can afford the grey/blue version, the capacitors in the filter are better, giving a rounder tone. Much closer to the original 2600. The developer of the B2600, AMSynths, is relatively present on RU-vid comments, and has been a great source of info about the design.

I have the blue B2600 and it sounds good, but it's missing some of the bite a vintage one has.

BRILLIANT!!!!! YES!!!

Yup. It’s been a bit since I’ve done something like that so I’m not sure if the filter slope would look like a highpass filter (pretty sure it does). Another thing, if the 2600 has filter amplitude decrease to compensate for increased resonance it may throw off the perfect phase cancellation. As I do have filters that behave like that, I could test that out too. Also how difficult is it to perfectly match gain on different signal paths in the 2600? Probably not very if you run things all the way hot and then just attenuate everything with that output gain slider so you’re not dealing with annoyingly loud levels.

u are smarter than me

Great Henry! Why didn’t I think of that!

Holy cow!

xmrtuvgs can you please scan them and upload them somewhere?

You only live once... go buy one!

what was the retail price back then?

@@nicebluejay $2600 - that's where the name comes from.

Love the vst

I agree. He really knows the synth in and out and has a very nice and clear way of demonstrating all it's features. This is really one of the best overviews I've ever seen of any analog synth. I look forward to seeing more of this guy!

Ryan from Perfect Circuit

I disagree. I know the instrument and I think this guy doesn't know what he's talking about half the time.

@@j-ltekbrain2177 Ryan is BRILLIANT!!!

@@horowizard where is your tutorial? I for one would love to learn from your self-expressed knowledge...

16:53 is why i love synthesizers.

Thanks for the patching tip

Also the lag processor can be used as a second (basic) filter.... Very nice demo., I wish I watched this a few years ago as it took a while to work out the TTSH I built....

Winter is coming Starglider

We would love to make a Synthi video

True, it almost sounds mechanical rather than electronic.

@@Bananskuden More coal! He's heading for the LFO!

It’s close enough.

It was hard for me to hear the spring reverb for the majority of the video. It's fine like that.

They did, ARP 2600 original demo's are all over the place since a week :-).

And 3 days after your message Korg presents a new ARP 2600 ..... Jean-Michel Jarre had spoiled the information around 1 month before.

@@jean-louispech4921 I know! I saw the Korg Arp 2600 on Sweetwater's channel the next day. But it's like $3900. Still more than I can afford, but that would be so sweet. And of course it has MIDI. Come on lottery!

It adds noise by the PWM. Don't forget that you can think the PWM like a delayed reverse saw added to a saw, when you change the PW you change the delay. When you change this delay continuously, it is like a pitch change for the reversed saw. With the classic triangle PWM , the reversed saw swap between two pitch ( symmetric around the central note ) , because you have two different slopes (up and down). With the noise modulation the signal of modulation generate several random slopes along the time and then generate noise, because it generate unrelated frequencies.

@@jean-louispech4921 But does all old units add the noise? I haven't heard so many 2600 so I can confidently say but this sounded odd to me. You probably know better : )

Korg made it without the DSP FX.

This video was made on the one that we currently have used. We figured we should make a video to document this awesome vintage synthesizer while we had one around.

Perfect Circuit Sorry, that may have come across as hostile. That wasn’t my intention:)

Seems like both Korg and Behringer are working on a clone. Interesting times!

Ben Salisbury would beg to differ. But yes the harmonics very similar.

It does sound a bit dark, but my guess is that it has something to do with keyboard tracking, since as he goes up the keyboard, the sound gets brighter.

It's earwax

@@gasolineandwine Well, it's meant to with full tracking.

Daniel Miller

Fj Francois behringer has a clone coming out

Well... twitter.com/ARPsynthesizer/status/1213158080550035457?s=20

villagersound cool

Daniel Wiklander nice 👍🏻

korg might've put a stop to behringer... behringer hasn't offered an update on their 2600 since mid last year

“Their”

Divinital they’ll likely both be the same, since literally all either of them has to do is crack one open and copy the circuitry. If anything, I’d bet on Behringer’s being better, since theirs will be a 1:1 clone and Korg likes to do strange things to their repros, like they did with the MS-20 Mini.

Divinital why though? I’m honestly curious.

Divinital Oh ok, so no reason and you just want to perpetuate a bullshit elitist mentality that should’ve died out a long time ago? It’s always the same thing. “Oh, clones are amoral, they’re stealing money and ideas from the original company” “Oh, clones don’t sound the same even though they’re literally built from original specs like 99% of the time, and I don’t have the ear to tell for myself if it sounds right so I’m just gonna say it doesn’t because fuck clones right?” The one and only reason Korg is even hopping on the clone bandwagon (which keep in mind that regardless of whether or not it has “ARP” stamped on it, it’s STILL a clone, even coming from Korg, because it’s not part of the original run of 2600s) is because Behringer is making tons of money giving people what they actually want, recreations of the synths that they love, at a price that reflects how dirt cheap it is to build a synth out of components that have been widely available since the dawn of synthesis. Life’s too short to worry about this kind of stuff. I’ve literally done side by side comparisons between my original Moog Model D and the Behringer and there’s VERY little, if any difference. You heard the word clone and said “no, it can’t be right, because the logo on the case is different!” Don’t even bother to actually do research, listen to demos, and actually form an opinion, because your own snobbery has forced you to deprive yourself of owning something that you’ll likely never be able to get your hands on otherwise. So, YOU enjoy trying to coax Prophet 5 sounds out of a Minilogue, because the Rev2 “just wasn’t the real thing”. I feel sorry for you.

@@bluehole6019 they did a solid reissue of the Odyssey years before Behringer.. the MS20 mini is excellent as well and was the 1st real analog classic reissue from any of the big synth manufacturers. Hats off to Korg for doing this, I love it!

Marshal Arnold I’m really excited for it! Hopefully it ends up at a price that my wallet can forgive! 😉

derek jurovich A synth like this has a number of input jacks (for patching and signal routing). These jacks are “normalled” internally so that the signal running through it ALWAYS comes out of the output, even if you’ve plugged in no other patch cables to re-direct the signal to your liking. These connections are normalled, or are “normally connected” to other relevant or expected points in the circuit. This approach keeps the sound flowing through the machine while you’re plugging and unplugging patch cables to experiment with your own signal routing ideas. Most current modular synths do not behave like this and have a steeper learning curve.

Pheurton Skeurto thank you for that in depth answer. This stuff gets really complex :)

Currently 440 vs 575 in euro's, was the initial price difference much bigger?

Surely the Behringer one will keep the price of the KORG one down? That’s what I’m hoping

@@DanielPerryMusic Yeah probably. Strangely enough Behringer announced it first. Either Korgs will be noticably different (no keyboard or smaller?) or they must be willing to make it quite affordable.

OttoNL I bought the full size for 1400 euros, what a big mistake.

@@abelos1518 Oof that's rough, kinda insane how prices drop after a while. I now try not to be the first to get a synth, first batch is expensive and sometimes has issues.

Or a behringer

Because it's built in and it makes things sound better

@@annother3350 I'm not too sure about that... When you try to focus on different functions of the synth that just spoils it.

@@neuroactive3301 I'm sure the guy was trying his best -- you can never please everyone

@@annother3350 Yes he was doing great job showing all the functions of this synth.

Think?? You are thinking way too much.

Spazzoid Studio wow at least I am engaging in conversation, not sure what your comment adds other than to intentionally make someone feel bad

Its a serious investment but the thing is that each one mentioned is unique in it's own way. up until lately it was more like 10,000.00 for a ARP 2600 that is in real good shape. At the same time u can easily spend several times that getting into a Moog Modular system. Take all the time you need, but once you decide then make sure you get what you really are going to be happy with. ;-}