In Ear Rack | Complete Personal IEM Solution (with Dante, P16M and App Mix)

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We built a complete In Ear Monitor Rack. This solution allows the band to have fully self-mixed InEars controlled from a Phone or Tablet, or using the P16M mixers from Behringer. The rack also features Dante audio networking.
0:00 Intro
0:29 Why do you need something like this?
3:06 Rack
3:16 X32 Mixer
5:05 S16 Stage Box
5:54 Splitter
8:52 Getting signals to FOH
11:31 Router
12:26 Power Strip
12:58 DANTE
18:04 P16M + P16D
20:14 Headphone Amp
23:07 Mounting gear thats not rack-mountable & cable management
24:47 Outro
Our Band "Everlasting Covenant": / @everlastingcovenant3919
App "Mixing Station": play.google.com/store/apps/de...
12 HE Rack on wheels: www.thomann.de/de/thon_rack_1...
X32 Rack: www.thomann.de/de/behringer_x...
S16 Stage Box: www.thomann.de/de/behringer_s...
(you also need a network/ethercon cable to connect Stagebox and X32)
Behringer P16M: www.thomann.de/de/behringer_p...
Behringer P16D: www.thomann.de/de/behringer_p...
Behringer X-Dante Expansion Card: www.thomann.de/de/behringer_x...
Palmer Pro RMMS 8 Splitter: www.thomann.de/de/palmer_pro_...
8x XLR Snake: www.thomann.de/de/the_sssnake...
ART Headamp6 Pro: www.thomann.de/de/art_headamp...
Headamp Y-cables: www.thomann.de/de/pro_snake_t...
1HE Rack bracket: www.thomann.de/de/thon_rackwa...
Adam Hall 874716 Power Strip (not available anymore)
3M Dual Lock: www.amazon.com/3M-Reclosable-...

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Комментарии : 67

@EqDior Год назад

Very detailed review! Awesome job.

@lebateur Год назад

This is one of the clearest and most concise demonstrations I've seen. I had a lot of questions at the beginning but all were addressed. Thank you, I'll be constructing something similar for my current project.

@michaelseebass Год назад

Thank you, I'm glad to hear that! Good luck with your project too!

@MrFrancoisGosselin 2 года назад

Well explained... Thank you...straight to the point...great video

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

Thank you

@michaelsolano8733 2 года назад

I start my build this week. Good demo

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

Wow good luck with your build! Hope everything turns out fine

@rolandtiiroja Год назад

Very clean cable management.

@michaelseebass Год назад

Thank you

@poovenpadayachee1183 Год назад

Thank you. Love it

@dannyharvey8470 6 месяцев назад

nice tip - 3m Dual lock! will start using that!

@benjiyork 7 месяцев назад

A big +1 on the 3M Dual-Lock. It's very nice to work with.

@joev180 Год назад

Great video.

@SleepThatBurns 5 месяцев назад

i have an X32 rack system including the headphone amp. I feed the amp inputs with the AUX (1/4 outputs) and save the 8 XLR outputs for other purposes. Simple.

@khuuramnazir1124 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for lot of information

@calvingudu9237 2 года назад

Mix via “wife e””. Hahah. Love the info my man! Good vid

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

😅 Thank you!

@BestemmieDraconiche Год назад

Very useful video! Just wondering what exact model of headphones amplifier from Behringer did you get before this one (i wanna avoid that model since you say is is noisy)

@TheSpunR4D Год назад

Thank you very much.

@michaelseebass Год назад

Welcome!

@rowanhensley3615 Год назад

Never heard of 3M dual lock before. Will definitely get some! We're doing a similar project for my band, using a presonus 32R

@michaelseebass Год назад

Yeah I would recommend to definitely try it then, and much success for your project!

@stevendawson3914 10 месяцев назад

3M dual lock is amazing. Unreal for pedal boards as well.

@KLRCAT 7 месяцев назад

I have a similar build using the XR18. In my Rack I have the; - XAir XR18 - HA6000 6-channel headphone amp - x2 ULTRALINK MS8000 microphone splitter (to create "Isolated split") - Furman M-10XE Power Conditioner I would have preferred to have the X32 Rack (because of Dante & Channel count), but due to budget and availability, I had to go with the XR18 (and I was lucky to even get that cause they were all sold out 2 hours after I purchased mine). I remember when the X32 Rack was £700 during a sale a couple years ago, and I remember thinking "I don't currently need this now, so I'm sure it will be on sale in the future". The X32 Rack is currently £1,249, and has never dropped since.

@JayStudioProductions 2 года назад

ty!

@joelglaser5657 2 года назад

Nice! Thanks for sharing.

@wurlitzersk2541 Год назад

Thanks Michael for this great video. Which Router do you using?

@michaelseebass Год назад

I don't know the exact model but it's a TP link, a normal wifi router

@Slavetskiy Год назад

You may using USB cable for extra 17-32 channels... No additional fee, all external

@runesig Год назад

Thanks for all the info. It was very helpful. But I did not catch how you get all the tracks to FOH now as your splitter was only usedvanlig for drums?

@michaelseebass Год назад

Up until now only digitally (for example with a second X32 at FOH via AES50).

@reinhardklamm9628 Год назад

Es sei erwähnt, das Dante in der Kombi mit dem DVS einiges an Latenz hinzufügt. Wer’s richtig schnell braucht nutzt dann eine zusätzliche Dantekarte an seinem Rechner (die kann dann auch 128/128 In/Outputs)

@itsluv.r Год назад

Hey Michael, Danke Dir für das Video, hat mir sehr geholfen. Ich habe zwei Fragen: 1. Was für einen Router Du für dein Rack benutzt und ob Du mit diesem zufrieden bist. Ich will mir für mein Rack einen zuverlässigen Router anschaffen der auch in größeren Venues und Outdoor problemlos funktioniert. 2. Machst Du die Kabel mit Kabelbindern an der Seite des Racks auch mit dem 3M Dual Lock fest oder benutzt Du dafür etwas anderes? Vielleicht hast Du einen Tipp, beste Grüße. (:

@michaelseebass Год назад

Der Router ist ein älterer TP Link Router, das genau Model weiß ich nicht. Es ist ein regulärer WLAN Router, zufrieden bin ich schon damit. Man sollte generell bei einem solchen Rack darauf achten dass man stabiles zuverlässiges WLAN hat. Die Kabel im Rack sind mit "Cable stand offs" befestigt - sowas in der Art: www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B08RMS5H25/ref=sr_1_19

@itsluv.r Год назад

@@michaelseebass Hey Michael, vielen Dank Dir!

@reshephgani9798 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing! Does Dante expansion card increases input channel of X32 rack?? Because keys are not plugged in directly on XLR input jack. Just a doubt because I'm planning to get x32 rack and Dante card only, not S16 stagebox. Thanks for helping newbies:)

@reshephgani9798 2 года назад

And is it possible to send all 32 channels input without FX we are using for IEM to FOH via Dante?? Not the FX and gain we set for IEM only direct clean sounds of vocals and instruments??

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

Hi, I'm not sure I understand your question fully. A few things: - Dante does not expand your channel count. With the Dante Expansion Card in the X32 your X32 still has 32 channels. Its just a different way of getting input (or output) into the board. You can basically select for each channel (or groups of channels) if you want to use the XLR input or Dante input - you can send every Dante Input also to FOH, regardless of what you do with it in the X32. One question though, how will you get your signals into the Dante network? Do you have a dante-capable interface or a breakout box or some Dante-stagebox?

@reshephgani9798 2 года назад

@@michaelseebass Hi, thanks for answering yeah you have cleared my first doubt thanks again! Last doubt was, is it possible to send vocals and guitars to FOH through Dante expansion card, which are plugged in X32 rack input channel through XLR cables not Dante network?

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

@@reshephgani9798 That should be possible

@reshephgani9798 2 года назад

@@michaelseebass ohh okay thank you.

@christothegreat1 2 года назад

Does each musician with signals not using microphones plug into multiple direct boxes which output balanced signal to each x32 xlr input?

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

At the moment only bass and acoustic plug into DI boxes. Electric runs 2 xlrs directly out of the helix. Keyboards and backing tracks run via Dante.

@christothegreat1 2 года назад

@@michaelseebass How does your keyboards line outputs get to Dante ethernet?

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

@@christothegreat1 Keyboard is played via a Macbook with Mainstage that runs Dante Virtual Soundcard, so we can plug Ethernet directly into the Macbook

@andreasonarheim Год назад

I can easily get 6 stereo in ear mixes using the xlr outs and 1/4 inch outs on the x32 rack itself right? Do I understand it correctly that outputs(xlr) and aux outs (1/4inch) work the same way (Granting I use TRS for the 1/4 inch outs of course), just different plugs?

@csabislezak8485 Год назад

Absolutely, we use it now as 5 stereo IEM + LR. But keep in mind that you have 16 busses on the X32, effects involved, so with 6 st inears + 4 FX sends you reach the limit

@csabislezak8485 Год назад

(Technically 25, but the 6 matrices, the LR, and the center bus make up the rest)

@andreasonarheim Год назад

@@csabislezak8485 Thanks!!!🙏🏻

@peteryousef5177 Год назад

please, I want to ask. if i have a personal monitor mixer p16 and i have an analog mixer but i do not have a direct out . So what should I do ? to change from insert to direct out.

@michaelseebass Год назад

You would need either an X32 mixer or the p16i. How you get your inputs to the p16i would be the question though, maybe you can do that with a splitter...

@peteryousef5177 Год назад

@@michaelseebass do you know to change from insert to direct output ? or adapter change from insert to direct ? what is the name of splitter ?

@taucetus3657 9 месяцев назад

Your X32 mixer is having subtle shorts as seen on its screen. Use shielded cables for your AES50, Dante and Ethernet connections

@toxictime9604 Год назад

Kuhl Mann! Is ja noch etwas platz drin für whatever. Ich könnte nicht widerstehen, Blenden zu verwenden und evtl zwischen X32 und S16 1-2 He Platz lassen

@michaelseebass Год назад

Wir hatten ein bisschen Platz gelassen für eventuelle Erweiterungen (zb. Wireless Empfänger)

@christothegreat1 2 года назад

How do you not step on and damage 16 xlr cables coming into the front of this rack, or the xlr input jacks themselves? It seems like you need to manage this with some proactive protection method.

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

We put the rack to the back or side of the stage, where no one walks in front of the rack, so thats not really an issue. If we wanted we could put the S16 at the bottom of the rack (I prefer the power outlets there though)

@warrenroberts1912 Год назад

How did he make that router stick to the top??

@michaelseebass Год назад

3M dual locks

@warrenroberts1912 Год назад

@@michaelseebass thanks

@christothegreat1 2 года назад

Weight? Total cost?

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

Have not calculated it. Everything is linked in the description so you can get an idea what the cost would be.

@michaelknopp9112 2 года назад

Sehr interessant, aber warum denn nichtig deutscher Sprache ????

@michaelseebass 2 года назад

Danke dir, mein Kanal ist generell eigentlich englisch. Ich mache Cover&Tutorials für deutsch-sprachige Songs auf deutsch, weil das mehr nur für die deutschsprachige Community interessant ist. Generell aber englisch, auf Englisch verstehen es einfach mehr und das Video ist interessanter für mehr Menschen weltweit 🙂

@letsplaychronicles9483 Год назад

och man, wenn du schon auf englisch deine Videos machen willst, dann leg dir doch wenigstens einen vernünftigen Akzent zu.... and learn how to pronounce i.e. "with", it is not with an "f" at the end. Das ist ja schlimmer als Schulenglisch 7. Klasse.

@reinhardklamm9628 Год назад

Oh man, immer diese Nörgler. Es gibt Leute denen ist der Inhalt wichtiger als die Option eines perfekten Englisch. Wir sind nun mal Denglisher…. Video war super und das solltest Du erst mal besser machen, bevor Du dich so lehrerhaft aufspielst.