Kenny is the shit. I met him at his home course, Cliff Stephens Park, in Clearwater, Florida back in 1998. He was gracious enough to be my partner in a round of best shot. Needless to say we won and I will never forget that winter because I'm from Michigan.
its which number world championship series, the overstable (ironically) is the 8x, the flat is a 12x, and the understable is an 11x. new one is super overstable, obviously.
Still amazes me to hear the Champ say that a Star Destroyer is too much disc for him. It's actually really inspiring for me because I know I can stay throwing at most 11 speed discs and still be great if I work at it.
I’m getting chills watching this. The man is a LEGEND of the sport & put disc golf on the map. Damn the discs he has in his bag....what’s the value of them all? He’s got some classic hard to find ones
Just cracked my beloved kc pro teebird on a tred today, it just like the one he had exactly. That was the most amaizing control, long approach, short drive, birdie making, nice skipping disk. Used it in every pick up and tournament game i have ever played. Very sad loss, i almost feel like i should bury it.
He has a Gatorade bottle in his bag, I'm curious why he doesn't AT LEAST take a sip during this video. Seems like the perfect play here with that lie he has.
I think it's great that his bag breaks the mold a bit of typical Innova throwers. Throwing Wraiths as his go-to driver and the man has a Condor and Sonic in his bag. I found that really interesting.
The fucking GOAT! P McB is a fucking boss, but he still has a ways to go to be KC level of boss. Constantly amazed at the things Ken can make a disc do, and it all just looks so effortless. The man is the Disc Whisperer.
the editing in this video makes me giggle, just minor errors of disc arrangement and stuff like that. How many times did you have to redo this video to get it right?
The Champ! I have that same, orange CE TeeBird, used to be my go to fairway/woods driver. Too scared to throw it now but it is, as Ken said, a money disc. Neat to see him talk about the Tern 10 years.
I wonder how Innova feels about their pros using older runs of discs like the KC Roc. A lot of 10x and 11x. Same with Aviar's. I feel like McBeth is the only one who uses the newest run of most molds he throws.
Alex Padilla Probably won't matter to them because in the end it's still their product. Many of those older runs were great discs, why not use them if you can still find them? :-)
Mcbeth likes the new stable plastics. These old school guys are used to throwing flip shots because back in the day you had to. Now they have all these new overstable discs out.
Boss in champion or star plastic is really overstable disc. I do not recommend it for beginners at all. Star Boss is my go to Forehand shot disc though. I can throw it upto 350 ft, but I have been playing for 2 years. If you need a distance then you might wanna try a dx wraith or dx beast in a range of 165 to 170 gm. I do not recommend these both discs for you in champion plastic though.
Jordan May Yeah what above said, stay away from discs with a lot of fade if your just starting out. If you're set on getting a driver, I'd recommend a Star Vulcan or a Tern, you get a lot of distance out of those with minimal effort! At least in my experience! Good luck.
Jordan May Holy crap, unless you're one of those crazy natural athletes, a Boss is probably in the top 10 worst discs you could start with. That first number is the speed - you don't need anything higher than a 5 starting out. Midranges and putters are your friends until you learn how to throw. The last number is the fade - you want this to be 0. That will keep the disc flying straight at the end of the flight when most discs tend to crash hard and ruin a beginner's game. Because Innova is the most available brand most places, here are some discs to get you started: Nova, Classic Aviar, Dart, Aero, Mako, Foxbat These are all solid, straight flying discs, and a lot of them you can get in cheap plastic for under $10 (if they don't work out for you, no big deal). Once you feel like you're ripping through these and need some more speed, you can start considering some drivers. I made the mistake of trying drivers to begin with and spent over a year cursing my game. I stepped it down to the slow speed discs (that went just as far because I was so green) and learned how to throw. Then I moved back up and my game has changed tremendously since then. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, don't go crazy with equipment. When you find the right disc for you in your range, get a bunch of them. Some will break in for specialty shots, some will fly true until you die, and some will float away in the river. But don't think that 100 different molds is going to change your game. A few solid molds that are all subtly different is the way to go.
J Browne man, you mentioned a lot putt and approach disc for beginners and none of the fairway drivers. I would say, leopard and valkyrie are great beginner discs. Two aviar putt and approach, a mako, a foxbat, a leopard, and a valkyrie would be a great starter disc set.
Umesh Chaudhari Oh absolutely - I was just offering a starting point. Valkyrie is my utility disc and I have 3 right now. I'll forever have them in my bag. But if you think back to when you were super-new, you're not throwing a Valkyrie any further than a Polecat. For someone who's never thrown anything but a wham-o, starting low-speed/no-fade and taking a couple months to move up to a Leopard, Cheetah, or TB can save a lot of $$$. No disc will hurt your bag, but too many newbies think they need to compensate their lack of skill with warp speed, which is of course the opposite approach. I went with a friend last month who brought his roommate for his first trip out. My friend let him throw a Destroyer all day and pretty much convinced him it was the best disc he had. So what does the roommate do? Buys a Destroyer, a Boss, and a TDevil, all Champ, just trying to emulate what he had seen my friend throw because they went really far. IMO, bad waste of money and a sacrifice of some serious fundamentals. That's why I would recommend starting with one of the tiny discs and making it a one-disc game for a couple months.
Man, I get a very nostalgic feeling when I see Climo's signature on a disc. Takes me back to my first non DX disc, a 10x KC Pro TeeBird and thinking, "alright, my game is about to improve exponentially". I don't think getting that disc really helped my game, but mentally it made me feel better about my game. That was probably 2003 when I got that disc, I still throw it in every single game I play. The Champ, the Jordan of Disc Golf!
weird a friend gave me a championship valkrie factory second i cant get it to helix i got it once but i have a disc we call the chew toy its a old valkrye just a starter disc that it really really beat up and has dog bite holes in it and i can launch it like a monster and really controll it it baffels my friends and anyone who looks at the disc
Im new also, can anyone explain why i cant throw dx skeeter 55-11 175g, but i can throw champion shark3 5402 172g. Im confused, i bought shark3 first, then i was thinking maybe i should go for beginner friendly disc and i bought dx skeeter. Problem is, i cant even get good grip from skeeter, it doesnt feel good on my hand no matter how i try put my fingers and secondly, its rlly hard to throw straight. Just ridiculous hard to get any control for my throws with it. I can throw shark3 with 3 results: 1. it flyes straigth and in the end fades to the left so i miss my target little bit 2.my throw fails little bit to the right but shark3 fights back so it doesnt allow itself to turn too much right but tryes to turn to the left and final fade to the left makes situation even better for me (usually lands where i wanted) then 3. if i throw rlly bad, it goes to the right side but still it fights much better than skeeter. If i throw skeeter bad, good god, its like beast, it just flyes god knows where, very very badly to the right side, "out of screen". These are my only 2 disc so far and i alrdy leave skeeter home cus its not fun to throw, cant control it, cant get good grip of it. just makes me wonder why innovas site says its beginner friendly, fuck it, its not.
I would try to sell it or trade it for something else. It sounds like "it doesn't feel good in my hand" is the main reason it isn't working for you. It is still a beginner disc but if you can't get past the feel then it isn't worth trying to love it. You can't fit a square peg into a round hole.
It's a double stamp, or x-out. You see a lot of champion whippets and other discs like this, they often find their way to the innova pros because although they can't be sold for much in stores, they fly just as well as a non-x-out.
What do pros do when they lose or remove a beat up disc from their bag in order to replace that disc? Do they get a new disc and try to beat it up as quickly as possible?
Magistro If they have 4 or 5 of the same disc with different stabilities, and they're all being thrown and getting beat in, they just get a new overstable one, and the other ones switch positions, if that makes sense. No need to beat in a new disc when you already have other discs that are almost beat in enough.
um just wondering, when hes naming off his drivers, and gets to the green one he calls an eco star katana I'm pretty sure it says both upside down and right side up that its a midrage star mako
You're not wrong, but the disc itself, the mould, is a Katana. When Innova stamped it in the factory, they messed it up, so instead of junking (recycling back into the vat-o-plastic) they slam a bunch of zany stamps on it, and sell it for a buck less.
