Seeing Gazerbeam carve Kronos into the wall... he was pragmatic. He knew that others would be lured... and he died hoping someone would find him and his clue.
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he didnt even died wanting to be found, he died wanting to help: A true hero, till his last breath
I don't understand why THIS was removed??? Mr. Incredible's speech was so powerful and moving and it strongly connected the first film to the second film.
I like that they made Gazerbeam an odd ball. Normally with these eulogies they talk about how fun and funny they were, so it was interesting to see them diverge from that trope.
@@theshuman100 Which is funny because Gazerbeam does feel like some early superhero days esque name while viewpoint just sounds like a more creative name.
Yeah, I like it when a eulogy has the guts to talk about the negatives of the deceased, not just the positives. Makes it feel like an actual celebration of the person as a whole rather than just the parts everyone liked
Oddly enough, the "Viewpoint" part is supposed to be funny, but it ends up being sad. He didn't lose merely a fellow super nor a companion, but a friend. They teased, they bonded, they joked, they were hanging around probably having drinks and meals, chit chatting...and now it all suddenly ended.
@@josephmontanaro2350 I don't think so. Bob used a bit more expression in the voice than Robocop usually has. He was just imitating Gazer Beam to add immersion
This is actually a really neat bit of continuity with the NSA Superhero interviews. In those, it’s explained that Gazerbeam actually joined the Thrilling Three very briefly, taking over as team leader after Dynaguy died in his suit accident. The team ended up actually disbanding shortly afterward because, as Apogee put it, “it was really the Thrilling One + Two in Gazerbeam’s mind…”
Honestly to see that even Edna was grieving, I can't imagine how bad it must've been for her. Some of those supes wears costumes she made, and she often lecture them about "don't even think about being flashy", or "NO capes!" and etc... she really is like a mother for the superheroes. And now, she grieves for whole lot bunch of them...
It's sad cause she remembers the day, the year, and how they exactly died. She doesn't push them all behind her, she remembers them to warn other heroes and she refuses to forget her mistakes.
True; having costume malfunction is bad enough, but having to know the Supers she designed for were getting MURDERED by a Wannabe-Super, it must be more than painful.
And on top of everything else, she didn't even get the chance to redesign their costumes, leaving them to die in their "hobo suits". Not important to us I know (I was trying to be funny) but her designs are important to her, and since she cared about them you know she wouldn't want them to be seen in anything 20 years old.
The supers are supposed to be tough, however her stuff has to be even tougher. And the fact that she personally knew all of these guys strikes hard for someone like her where it is not only her job to know what benefits the superhero, but she actually get to know them on a deeper level as if she was a surrogate mom or a wise sassy Aunt.
Now Let's Take A Moment to Remember: • Gazerbeam. • Stormicide. • Psycwave. • Vectress. • Everseer. • Macroburst. • Phylange. • Blazestone. • Downburst. • Hypershock. • Apogee. • Blitzerman. • Tradewind. • Gamma Jack. and all of the other heroes we've lost in this tragedy, all of the supers who died wanted only to help
While that's true, you could also argue that many of them did it to relive the glory days which is much more self center. Mr. Incredible even admitted such in the film. That's the big dilemma: Having all this power means in reality, you're the one who's making the choices for others and when is it time to something and do "nothing" as those like Mr. Incredible would easily be tempted to
Edna at the memorial makes sense when you recall how she could recite from memory the deaths of all the heroes who wore her caped supersuits. She cared about every one of the heroes, not just as "gods" she designed for, but as practically family.
In many ways Edna Mode was the Dr. Halsey for the Supers: pragmatic, efficient, and driven to bring about the best in people no matter what even if it means to bend or break laws to do it.
I agree. This would've been a great opening. I mean they gave us a sad opening with Finding Nemo and Up.. it would've been interesting to see incredibles 2 with this opening.
Seemed like the whole conclusion of the first fight in incredibles 2 was very forced. I doubt the law would arrest the incredibles if they are the ones who stopped the drill, and defeated Underminer. I feel like they should have skipped over it and set this up as the beginning along with the aftermath of the Underminer fight.
Well remember, Underminer says at the end of 1 "to declare war on peace, and happiness". That's some astronomically high stakes and the sequel reduced him to a bank robber. Plus the omnidroid battle already worked to establish the supers as good in the public light. There was so much that would've needed to happen with the underminer and the sequel turned it to shit. This scene's so much better.
@@spencerallison3196 wait - who says that the opening of 2 was their first battle with the underminer? Mr. Incredible explicitly states, "we meet again".
I'm talking about The Under Miner's monologue at the end of the first movie, "I am beneath you, but nothing is beneath me. I am here to declare war! On peace, and happiness." The way he's used in the second movie, as a bank robber that Bob knows, doesn't make sense from the context built by the first movie.
Movie should have really run with that idea as an over archign theme. A good way to add to it, perhaps later in the movie, would be something like, "It we don't properly guide the energy guiding us forward it will drive us in a bad, dangerous direction". Or something along those lines. Maybe instead of making the villain be another tech genius with a grudge against supers. Maybe give her actually hypno powers and instead of wanting to destroy supers forever make her want to be a hero, similar to Syndrome but instead of wanting to make eveyone super and get rid of heroes. She wants to control all supers and become the greatest of them all. I'm kinda making this up on the spot but the main idea is make her different from Syndrome in a way besides the fact she's female. Technically speaking even their end goals are the same as Syndrome wanted everyone to be super so that no one would be special. He was goign to get rid of supers by essentially making them obselete. She needed a more distinct endgoal.
With what was shown in this deleted scene, I’ve full reason to believe Syndrome never found the body, hence why it was left there. Gazerbeam must have died shortly after engraving the word to the cave wall, which was why the drone Syndrome likely sent after Gazerbeam reported he was terminated and so left him in the cave the same way he left Bob when he was believed to be dead.
Why would he have done that tho, he was trying to kill him and was happy when the drone reported that there was no life sign so there would've been no point in doing that.
@@dodowhisperer2114 Ok so you know how villains are a little self aware but still commit the same tropes as in fiction? "You sky dog, you got me monologuing!" Another trope is leaving people for dead when they very well could be alive. His bots say "yo man he dead" and he is just like "good, now for my next trick: phase 2 of me evil plan!"
Also Syndrome seems so genuinely surprised it happened, he's "geeking out about it". Buddy's real self is peeking through there, before the facade comes back.
someone should do a Incredibles comic based on the glory days to show us what happened during that time and maybe end it on Gazerbeam fighting the omnidroid and craving Kronos on the cave wall
I’m dumbfounded Disney hasn’t done anything in a series form about these superheroes, they could compete with the marvel heroes if given the right team
That scene were Mr Incredible looks onto syndrome's computer with all the super's their powers, supposed power level. Half the show's already done now all they need is a plot.
There’s so much untapped potential, I really wanna have comics that expand into the other hero teams such as The Phantasmics or even The Thrilling Three.
We finally learn why his skeleton and carving weren’t removed after his death…. Syndrome made no attempt to retrieve his body just like he assumed Mr. Incredible was dead after his probe reported no life readings back….. Yet another huge mistake on his part!
This should have been in the movie. One of the things that I sort of dislike about THIS film is that it doesn't take into account how dozens of superheroes were murdered previously thanks to Syndrome trying to perfect the Omnidroid. This would have made it so that the heroes who died were not forgotten(and would have added some joy when we see the new heroes who meet with Elastigirl, to show that they're not all extinct.
Like others I suspect that Disney - motivated by profit and marketability - pushed for a replica of Increadibles 1. Scenes like this remind me that there were artists and writers with real passion and inspiration who had the will to give us something great. A vision which existed ultimately only to be shot down in order to release the film a year early, and focus more on Jak Jak and his marketable superforms. Watching this scene just now I literally cried, perfectly immersed into the fallout of Increadibles 1, the weight of Syndrom's actions, and the tragedy that is superhero illegality. It sets up a plot looking to work for the legalization of supers with so much grace that the Underminer bit never could. It immediately establishes the themes of a family drama, as the Pars unpack boxes into a new life and a new home, one tinged with uncertianty but marked by hope. I love near every deleted scene from this film, more than the cinematic version. They're the hauntings of the work of art and passion that got painted over by the juggernaut of sequal cash grabs. I know we never will, but I wish we could get a redo on this movie. It deserves it.
yeah honestly we didnt need to see the Underminer fight, it being teased in the first movie was just to show that the family is now fighting as... well, a family
This scene was literally better than the entirety of incredibles 2, and actually recaptured what was great about the original. WHY WAS IT NOT INCLUDED?!
Incredibles 2 apparently had many different drafts and stories that were made but got cut or rewritten, this scene was probably one of those scenes that got cut as a result of the rewrite of the whole story.
Long story short, Toy Story 4's production was having issues, so Pixar swapped it's release date with Incredibles 2. TS4 got an extra year of development and Incredibles 2 lost a full year of production. So the script drafts had to be finished a lot earlier than intended.
You got that right, Syndrome is no more but a man fanboy trap in a man body. The Incredibles Family has avenge him along with the rest of their super friends.
@@TheImaginator972 May I remind you that this monster was a monster that Mr. Incredible HELPED CREATE And all the blood shed by Sindrome is also on his hands!
These heroes were killed because of Mr. Incredible who helped create the Syndrome! The blood of these heroes' deaths is as much on Buddy's hands as it is on Bob's hands.
I would really want a prequel to The Incredibles to showcase and tell the story of the “glory days” when Supers were at their peak. Have the ending or conclusion of when they started to get mowed down by Syndrome. I feel like their were so many supers that could have and should of their stories told. Time will tell though.
I feel like if they were to do this, I'd rather see them do a mini series. Kinda like how they do Disney Pixar shorts of their popular films. That way, they wouldn't try to fit too much into one movie or run the possibility of getting off track. Each episode could be about each Super or a separate episode about each member of the teams (since they were divided into teams in their days).
This is such a powerful and amazing scene that perfectly captures the emotion of the first movie and the fact that it was cut is the first in a long list of reasons why the sequel is a complete and utter disappointment.
If only this was added to the Sequel... I mean, the scene also give Edna more screen time. She was the designer of superheroes costumes, she's the one who told them about what to do and not to do, like the "capes" for example. She was like a nosy, caring mother for them. And now, she grieves for whole lot bunch of them... all who just wants to be a hero again, to be needed once again.
Maybe The Incredibles prequel short film about Gazerbeam's rise and fall. How he fits in with the Supers, fighting crimes in the Glory Days, and ends with him slowly dying from fighting one of Syndrome's Omnidroid, as he engraved a clue that helps Mr. Incredible on his journey to seek for the truth. Or put simply, maybe a plot about Gazerbeam dealing with another supervillain.
Tragic he’s gone but we won’t forget him ever Gazerbeam buddy you’ll be miss forever and thanks to you Sydrome is gone for good thanks to your support all the way right guys but rest easy Gazerbeam amazing hero of light you deserve it after saving millions of innocent civilians all the way right guys!
If Incredibles 2 wanted to begin on a somber but hopeful note, this could have been the way to do it. The speech going into how the young can be inspired to continue the good fight could introduce a slightly older Violet and Dash fighting a villain a few years after their hero debuts, for example.
Imagine an R rated mini movie of how the dead supers fought the omnidroids and how they died. It would be interesting to see their powers and how they fought the omnidroids.
This should have been the final scene. It would have shown Bob’s frustration through the movie for what it actually was. The superheroes were essentially a support group, and he was there, eagerly encouraging and supporting said people who were outcasted by society. Near the start of the movie, he protests to Helen about Dash not being able to be how he wanted to be. Helen perceives this as Bob using his kids as scapegoats and wanting to play. This scene, it shows he’s seen so many in Dash’s shoes, as they become more and more outcasted, but this time, for his own kid, he couldn’t help him. That was what frustrated him. Fleshes him out as a pretty damn deep character imo at least. Edit: lmao thought this was in Incredibles 1. Still, my point stands somewhat.
Disney went soft when they dropped this scene..yall remember Finding Nemo and Up? They forgot what they started in the first place by animated films that touched us with emotions
This scene wasn’t as dark as those, it was subtly dark but more depressing and unsettling, don’t get me wrong it is still a little dark but it’s more unsettling to me seeing the aftermath of what Syndrome has caused, while superhero work may seem like a child’s dream, it’s one of the most dangerous jobs that could depend on your life or others around you.
2:31 a excellent analogy there; not only do powerful engines not like to idle all day, some of them can actually be heavily damaged or destroyed by it, especially engines equipped with cylinder deactivation technology. (I’m looking at YOU GM Active Fuel Management and Dodge Multiple Displacement System!)
Assuming he tries to destroy the 5th Omnidroid but due to steel being installed after Syndrome spying on super’s movement and powers, his laser vision reflects to him which got him seriously wounded.
Pixar and Disney+ are just sitting on a potential gold mine here. In the special edition DVD set there were Super hero files, most of them with audio recordings of the various supers that inhabited The Incredibles universe to give the viewers a little taste of what they were like. They really should consider doing a tv series with an anthology vib where each episode focuses on a different superhero, tells us their origins, what they were like, how and why they become superheroes in the first place. Maybe have it with mini-episodes of 10 minutes and episode or full 30 minute episodes, the first few episodes could be centered around Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl and Frozone in the glory days before moving onto the other heroes, but the season finale would focus on Gazerbeam and they should base the episode on this deleted scene. Have it start with Simon Paladino struggling to have any connection with people because if he looked at them too intently he could hurt them so he'd have to look away and constantly be mistaken for being disinterested in other people, show him meeting Mr. Incredible, getting convinced to use his powers for good, we'd see him happy for once because now people understand why he can't look at them too intently while he's a superhero, show him befriending Winston Deavor's father and then we see how heartbroken he is when they ban superheroes and he'd forced to go under and forced to go back to being misunderstood. Then he gets a mysterious package from Mirage, his desire to go back into superhero work is exploited and eventually he finds out what Syndrome's planning but he's completely outmatched, he's mortally wounded and we see him carve out Kronos in his final moments before it transitions to Gazerbeam's skeletal remains and Mr. Incredible finding him. The episode then ends, with Superheros re-legalized and Mr. Incredible giving this Eulogy and saying that his sacrifice was the first domino that not only lead to Syndrome's downfall but also lead to Supers being re-legalized in the first place.
this scene should have been included! it has a proper backstory and ending to gazerbeam's journey as a super and how supers being made illegal affected the rest of the supers as well!
The return of Syndrome, after the revelation of him miraculously surviving the jet crash, would be an amazing plot for the 3rd Incredible's movie. In this scenario, this scene would fit quite well, as I sensed a notable lack of memory regarding Syndrome's mass murders in the 2nd film
I think a series about each super that was killed by Syndrome and prototype robot would be cool. It could also give more backstory about Syndrome and how he got the money for his machines and private army.
This should've been the opening, great way to recap the first movie, expanding on a minor character that was effectively a plot point to cover a way to continue the story, and giving credence on what the core of the second movie should have been
The first time I saw this, I asked "Why was this even deleted? I thought It would've been the perfect scene, and it's perfect enough to be added to the incredible series, pun intended."
I'm particularly interested in Gamma Jack, and I'm also a bit disappointed that his appearance in Incredibles 2 was cut It makes me so curious. Why Gamma Jack? There were so many other supers to choose from, but the writers specifically picked him to be the final member of the friend group
@@TippedScale Especially when his NSA files indicate him being...well, kind of a piece of work. So him? Why him, when we consider the other three to be all nice and good people? Are Gamma Jack's flaws overblown in his file? Was it an act, another part of the hero persona? Were they real but he hid them? Was he the ''mean kid'' of the group that occasionally had fallings out and later reconciled? What's his backstory? So many questions.
R.I.P.: Gazerbeam Stormicide Psycwave Vectress Everseer Macroburst Phylange Blazestone Downburst Hypershock Apogee Blitzerman Tradewind Gamma Jack Not to mention: Thunderhead Stratogale Meta Man Dynaguy Splashdown and Universal Man
@@AOTVProductions I can agree with that. It kind of does drag a bit and doesn’t really add much to the film overall I did like the callback to Syndrome though
From what this tells us about Gazerbeam he was like a cross between Cyclops(which whom they based the character on) and Daredevil( job proffesion-wise)
Really wished this was the intro scene to Incredibles 2. It sets up the tone about Supers are still in hiding and how it would eventually change that. But understandly, it would also affect the mole villain intro from the ending of the first film and the intro for the second
The sequel ends up focusing much more on humorous parts and a boring plot with twists and turns where you already know who the villain will be. The film stray far from the political issues or individual dramas of the characters in the first film. I don't think it's a bad film, but for me The Incredibles 2 is a pretty dispensable sequel.
While I can understand why this scene was deleted, I would have liked it kept. Watching the first movie, I wanted to know more about Gazerbeam, how he got to the cave, and what kind of a hero he was. This scene really fleshed him out.
Whatever families and close friends the fallen superheroes had must've been devastated. I can imagine Gazerbeam's partner just crying their eyes out and holding their children (if they had any) close to them. May he and the other fallen heroes rest in peace.
Wish that they included this. It's realistic, relatable, and addresses to how persons deal with the loss of a close friend. And even though the man is a superhero, he was still human like all of us. Like Bob said, he wanted to be useful, just like most of us. Plus, the speech is inspirational. Why is it that the best ideas they come up in movies end up not being used?
I agree, deleting this scene was insult-to-injury as the villain's plot for Incredibles 2 was horribly unrealistic and sketchy, a lot of people have called out how terribly written and nonsensical the Villain was especially how the decoy was "tracked down".
This is such a beautiful, tragic, powerfully emotional scene I understand it was likely cut for time... But it adds so much weight. My personal hope is that we get a prequel film or even series that puts these wonderful characters to use.
honestly if incredbles 2 went for a more serious story rather than the more happier one wehave, this scene would fit i can see why it got scrapped, REAL tonal shift from the incredibles 2 we got
How did this got deleted this is amazing! A great call back to the first movie and an awesome opening to the next. (I mean it did retconned a bit since Mr. Incredible clearly stated that "he works alone" in the first movie)
@@rpmguy648I think what it is, is that Mr. Incredible and Frozone can work together perfectly fine, heck they even come across each other from time to time when they go their own ways, this was shown in the first movie. Gamma Jack has too much of a narcissistic personality, so that could’ve led to him leaving the group. Gazerbeam probably didn’t like how the group couldn’t work together so he went to go join the Phantasmics instead
I mean, he can still primarily be a solo hero, but team up from time to time to deal with certain issues. It doesn't have to be completely mutually exclusive. The superhero community was just that, a community. One we are shown Bob was deeply involved with.
I don't think "I work alone" was his real attitude: when he says it to Helen he's joking about how they're going to get married later that day and when he says it to Buddy he's trying to keep the kid away from the dangers of the superhero life (or was just annoyed with him).
Gazerbeam really needs to be elevated more in the universe. Like it be so awesome if they made a Glory Days series giving a prominent role to Gazerbeam(among other heroes) and also leading up to the 1st movie when he goes to the Island
This had me CRYING, the entire incredibles 2 had me bored out of my mind. It's crazy how one scene is better than the entire Incredibles 2. It's a shame pixar lost its charm.
I’d love to see a comic about Kronos. How Buddy got his money and took down the other superheroes up until the point Mr Incredible came in. That would be a dark comic but I would definitely read it
I really wish this scene was in the movie, its both a great scene and a legit haunting one too. Being able to actually see Syndrome killing Gazerbeam, something that we never got to see happen on-screen, its haunting.
