Great analysis..You are a great journalist..This video clearly shows that Indian state of democracy is far better than Pakistan, enjoy the freedom of expression. Best wishes from Pakistan
An excellent series on the 1965 War Mr Swamy. There are many lessons that can be learnt by students of military history from the 1965 war but the topmost lesson is that those who accept their mistakes and learn from them ultimately triumph. Those who brush their problems under the carpet ask for greater trouble in the future. One good thing is that our military historians from those decades could be so objective and forthright in their battle assesments.
An analysis of 1965 war came out with a startling fact; when ceasefire came into effect Pakistan had just one week's ammunition available with her forces. India on the other hand had used only 14 % of its ammunition. Had India continued for another week , Ayub Khan would have come to Delhi on his knees and there would have not have been any need for Shastri to go to Tashkend.
A fascinating history in Jammu/Kashmir; I wonder why the conflicts it saw last century are not better known in US circles like similar conflicts... It is certainly a consequential highland
This Indo-Pak war in 1965 war followed Indian debacle in 1962 . There was just no time to rebuild the armed forces . I lived in Jullundur during that war . From what I heard from our officer friends , army did not enter Lahore and Sialkot because of logistic issue of feeding the population . But those cities were bombed regularly without any Pakistani response .
@@vanshbatra4043 India captured more land but 1/3 of vintage Indian Airforce was knocked out by our superior American supplied jets and weapons and Indian navy didn't even dare to challenge any of our navy. without the Air and sea cover , the Indian army was at the mercy of our Airforce and Navy had the war continued . .They say we didn't achieve our goals in 1965 ,well this is debatable. We believe that Kashmir is ours and we did m we do and we will keep on trying to take it back and operation Gibraltar was one of the examples since it highligts our determination to take back our land back from the brutal occupation of India ( Hindus). Even though we failed operation Gibraltar but we did achieve other great aims. The number one aim we achieved was to leave fear of retaliation by our Airforce , Army , navy and people in the heart of your country men. Never dared to cross your western border again First. Either it was 71 , 1999 kargil , 2001 standoff or anything else. we ruined 5 of your Airforce bases , pathankot , halwara , amritsir ,adampur etc and decimated your navy base and this fear could be seen post kargil war , post parliment attack and post FEB27.
@@taxidon4947 your Pakistani army have better weapons than Indian army then why your army has not taken Kashmir in 1965 war 😂😂😂please speak reality dont speak like patrotic Pakistani😂😂😂 pls tell me that your army had better weapons than us in 65 but why they dont able to take kashmir
@@vanshbatra4043 The reason we couldnt take back our land of Kashmir because after the losses , lal shastri called his Russian dad to broker a ceasefire as soon as possible. Our Army wasn't as good as our Airorce and Navy and Indian Army without the Airsupport was going to be decimated and shastri knew this and made a smart move . Just like when Nehru thought he was going to be pushed back by additional tribal reinforcement and was going to loose all the captured Kashmiri lands by the Indian Army , thats exactly when he ran to UN first to enforce an immidiate ceasefire and yet again Nehru ran to Russia in 1962 war with China otherwise wrest of Indian ladakh was also going to be part of China today. When your Army is about to loose ,thats when you run to others. In kargill , vajpayee started to call billclinton and said they are not mujahideens but Pak Army regulars.This is what you are good at . As for Kashmir , we didnt leave Kashmir since 1947 and since 1989 we are not leaving our land of Kashmir in the hands of Hindu India.
@@taxidon4947then what happened in 1971 😂😂😂where is your airforce 😂😂93000surrender world record 😂😂and in 1965 India had captured more land of Pakistan ☺️🤣
@@vanshbatra4043 93000 doesnt mean 93000 soldiers. It means 50000 soldiers plus the wrest were government officials. You wish you had 93000 soldiers. Number two you lost 1948 and ran to UN , you lost 1962 and ran to UN Russia and America , you lost 1965 and your PM died of heart attack in tashkent on the negotiating table. After loosing three wars. You won 71 by fluke and distance, otherwise you dont have guts since last 75 years. The good news is that Bangladesh is still an independent Muslim country and India didnt conquer it because that could be the huge loss. You only changed the adminstratio-------Oh 1971was a fluke victory for India after loosing 1948 , 1962, 1965 . someone who had surrendered its entire nation OF a billion , its culture , its women to us for a thousand years shouldnt be talking about the surrender . you know what i mean by a thousand years slavery or you want me to go in details ? 😂
Nice ....! Well studied evaluation...! Few of the elaborate perspective dynamics were well brought to the fore. Well researched and authentic journalism is always a pillar of democracy and it's growth. You are well on its path.... I await your similar presentation on events that led to the Glory of 1971 and how we got there ...🙏
Beautiful presentation, although tilted towards India. Your military analysis is 120% correct. See how the British fought in WWII. They gave up Dunkirk, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaya, and Burma without a fight. The same laziness was shown by both armies. One thing which I am not sure about is that recoilless artillery/bazooka was not used. I used to see many Pakistani jeeps with recoilless artillery, although never with heavy machine guns.
1965 war is one of those wars which has diverse versions from both side of border and series like this was needed , thank you Praveen sir and print team for bringing this and clearing our doubts
If our sub-continent were honest, we would admit that Kashmir is a business opportunity for the big boys and not a very difficult issue to resolve without bloodshed. But no-one is ready to state this uncomfortable truth in the media.
Fascinating and detailed content as usual dear Praveen ji. Just one request, can we please have these on the print podcast on Spotify, like the rest of print content.
Thanks Pravin-ji. Could you please avail your sources as well in the description? It helps people understand the narrative better when the sources are cited. 🙏
we saw who saved who in 2019, PAF shot down 2 indian planes, bombed indian army installations, IAF shot its own helicopter in panic, pilot captured paraded and made to talk like a parrot on international tv and fools like you celebrate that day just as you celebrate these decade old wars 🤣🤣🤣
Every war is fought with an AIM. In 1965, India was drawn into the war by Pakistan and hence the Aim of our Defence Forces was to thwart Pakistan and not defeat it. I wonder where was the “failure” when defeating the Pak Army was not an aim in the first place.So much for your analysis. Tailpiece: wars, battles, Defence strategies et al are specialized matters. We had an aim in 1971 and and also in Kargil. We achieved those aims and we commemorate those victories. There is a difference.
I am a pakistani and i watch this channel a lot as it does its best to not side with either Pakistan or India rather it just narrates what claims the polititions and journalists make from either side. Almost acting like a middle person telling a story
Very well summed up and presented! Can Praveen now look forward and tell us if we are ready for taking on China in next 5 to 10 years? We will certainly have another round and we need to know where we stand.
china is 30 years ahead of us. india does not have a chance. and by seeing how russia, which is supposed to be the 2nd best army, performed in ukraine, our chances look very glim
4 Sikh was forced by lt gen harbaksh Singh to move on offensive on sagaergadi day, the epic battle of 4 Sikh in Afghanistan. The offensive was launched just before ceasefire. This fiasco costed embarrassment to india and promotion to lt Gen...
Sargari has always been in Pashtun land. And not Afghanistan. The 4 Sikh defense in Sargari is as much Pakistani history as Indian. However, you can see as to why Indian cinema has made it over dramatic by projecting larger than life mythology around the Sargari offense. It’s no the battle of Spartans vs Persians at Thermopylae.
@@nomanali5711 Pakistan has neither history when battle of sargari happened nor any future.. It was a epic where Sikh defended till last man.. Indian cinema is quite late with its flawed movie.
As Indian from Pakistan perspective 65 was their best performance, bcs in other 3 wars they got more pounding & complete surrender. Here in 1965 it was 60-40 battle ratio.
47 war was also mostly half and half for both sides. Pakistan managed to capture Gilgit Baltistan and AJK, but India captured IOJK. However as Pakistans army was in Burma and not ready for war, with the invading force being Pathan tribesman, the performance was impressive
@@zt3gaming796 If Pakistan army was not ready jinnah wouldn't have send kabailese as first batch to attack Hari Singh kingdom. So u think driving out kabailese & Pakistan army who captured almost everything of all Kashmir district & just half day away from capturing Srinagar, to drive them away till Baramula & LOC was not a pounding win for India? 🤣 if Nehru wouldn't have gone to UN India would have taken Mirpur as well. Gilgit baltistan was opposite side of karakoram mountain range, it was for Hari Singh lack of quick decision making gilgit baltistan is in Pakistan control. Thanks to jinnah & Pakistan army & kabailese without them attacking Kashmir the Hari Singh kingdom we wouldn't have been able to sign him the instrument of accession to India. 😁😜
Well India lost every war to Pakistan and China except 1971 which was due to the rebelion of some 70 million Bengalis and the land distance. Besides that India lost every war. In 1948, due to the fear of further defeat Nehru ran to the UN. IN 1962 war Nehru yet again ran to Russia for help and still lost to our best friend China. In 1965 Indian Airforce was decimated in the Air and ground and Indian navy didn't even dare to challenge the Pak Navy during the entire war leaving the Indian Army without the Air and sea cover and that's when Lal shastri ran to Russia for a a ceasefire and later died on a negotiating table. In 1999 kargill war , vajpayee didn't run to clinton but called him to make complaints about Pakistani intrusion thus turning our military victory Into a political defeat. Recently our best friend China once again won a war just by using shoes , stones , bricks , sticks and kicks but this time not Russia and not America came to help India. India even lost Febc2019 mini conflict too. India to this day is still a no match to Pakistani military . Chinese military is on a next level for the Indian military, don't even go there.
@@prateekdhingra292 Why ? what's wrong with copying and pasting your own comment ? Do you think People have time to type thing all over again ? There is a reason that copy- paste exists.
India is good at changing history. It was Grenader ABDUL HAMID Expert in RPG bought from ISRAEL stopoed pakistani tanks at battle of khem karan. As a loyal indian muslim soldier he died but stopped the pakistani tanks. But at battle of chawinda india lost more tanks and its soldiers.
What history was changed? They said instead of using tanks, light jeeps with recoilless guns could have been used much more. Read properly. And no there is no hindu muslim sikh soldiers in Indian army, there are only Indians. All of them fought bravely and earned their stripes in the war. You sound like an ISI troll. But overall pakistan lost more soldiers and tanks compared to India and failed to capture kashmir which was its primary objective in the 1965, that is fact that will never go away.
Really? Military dictator are telling you truth for 75 years. Last fair election in Pakistan was 1971 won by Mujibur Rahman. After which Pak army understood only selected people should run pakistan not elected
Abdul Hamid a true muslim Raput and colonel rasool khan planned to defeat pakistan in the tanks war but india did loose a lot of tanks at chavinda and soldiers and planes in dogfights as pakistan sabre fighter jets had SIDEWIINDERS fitted by america to shoot down indian fighter planes.
Wow ! Thanks for clean and direct narration of history, much needed info for our generation, who don’t read 500 page books on theses operations Can you please summarize also the conditions of the ceasefire and how the territories are exchanged!
on september 7,1965 Pakistan Airforce attacked forward Indian Airoforce bases and destroyed many planes and bases like halwara , amritsir , adampur and pathankot were destroyed. Pathankot airbase was completely destroyed and lost 22 aircraft on the ground. In 1965 Pakistan Airforce jets like F.86 and F.104 were equipped with night fighting capability , missiles and were super sonic and none of the IAF jets were equipped with these capabilites thus IAF was no match for the PAF . Two IAF jets also landed and surrendered with thier working jets. one knat and one mystere. one of the pilot was brijpaul who became the IAF chief after. In the sea Indian navy didnt even dare to challenge any Pak navy ships . Indian navy was scared of Pakistani submarine . India used world war two era tanks and thier shells were not strong enough to penetrate patton tanks . however Patton tanks targetted with more powerful guns and destroyed number of Old Indian tanks like it was another practice day for them. IAF jets were fallling of the sky like flies and Indian navy decided not die like fish so many Indian navy ships dodnt leave their docks even when dwarka naval station was under attack. we won 1965 and could cause more damage if Lal Bahadri didnt run to Russia 😂🤣😅_
Inspite of having all these equipments you failed to achieve your aim...In India we say that in every war we fought against Pakistan , Pakistan had better weapons but God saved us..
@@knightofgodserventofholymo7500 Well this is debatable. We believe that Kashmir is ours and we did m we do and we will keep on trying to take it back and operation Gibraltar was one of the examples since it highligts our determination to take back our land back from the brutal occupation of India ( Hindus). Even though we failed operation Gibraltar but we did achieve other great aims. The number one aim we achieved was to leave fear of retaliation by our Airforce , Army , navy and people in the heart of your country men. Never dared to cross your western border again First. Either it was 71 , 1999 kargil , 2001 standoff or anything else. we ruined 5 of your Airforce bases , pathankot , halwara , amritsir ,adampur etc and decimated your navy base and this fear could be seen post kargil war , post parliment attack and post FEB27.
@@taxidon4947 Are you forgeting the surrendering of 93000 pakistani soldiers in 1971? Perhaps you also haven't read about battle of asal uttar and battle of basantar. Ever heard of Operation Trident and destruction of Karachi port? You are living in a fool's paradise my friend. Warmongering and terrorism has destroyed Pakistan and is the main reason of its current hopeless situation.
How come Pakistan defend such a mighty and focused Indian attack ?? How come in every entanglement PAF has the better of IAF ?? When will the army cover all these weaknesses??
Search on youtube to what Najeem sethi had said about 1965 indian offensive. When indians entered into pakistan they found it completely devoid of its defenders. So they thought this was a trap and stopped the attack for a few days. This gave pakistan time to regroup and establish defense. And no PAF is no better than IAF in every engagement. IAF losses were higher than PAF in 1965 war because IAF flew more combat sorties than PAF and based on its sortie rate, it had a lower attrition rate than PAF despite using inferior aircraft compared to more modern starfighter than PAF had.
@@pkmkb007 every single analyst said that PAF performed better than IAF in every ways. It was because of PAF that we mauled and broke your offensives in Lahore where was your IAF then??. Yes najam sethi is right about the trap and stuff I agree but then chawinda battle happened
I appreciate the sincerity and diligence with which you present the content, however please consider my objective feedback hereunder- 1. You tend to focus on too many things when telling a story, thereby limiting your ability to do justice to any single event/battle of the war. Case in point the video’s begins with a juicy snippet about the graveyard of Pakistani Patton tanks at the outset but barely even touches upon the details of the battle. 2. You metaphorically teleport from one battlefield of war to another citing bridges and canals in your recitation of war records with little regard for the ability of the viewers to follow your lead. You should do so only when supported by some graphics (either actual maps or representative animations) to provide more context of what you’re verbalising, otherwise you risk losing your audience. 3. Your focus seems more on the richness of language than fluency and continuity of storytelling. I respect your prowess over the English vocabulary but that doesn’t necessarily make for an engaging story telling from a listener’s POV. 4. You seem to read a lot from paper which makes you loose visual contact with the viewers, thereby interrupting engagement. And while I’m convinced you’re reading from research done and compiled by nobody else but you, it looks less well planned as you shuffle through sheets of paper. I implore you to use a teleprompter! Hope you find this worth considering.
Bhutto in both , 65 n 71 was involved in instigating the wars , his win win situation was, he was nvr directly involved , if they lost , no blame , winning would make his career, this was noted, zia who hanged him , bhutto wanted JK badly & died with a dream , his daughter carried the same dream n died getting blown up , now the grandson is waging the Khandani hate n war , he is spewing the same dissent , its in their dna .
Oh you all deleted the previous video? I guess, previous one was "bourne" in Detroit and this one was "born" in Detroit :) You need better video editors for sure, stop hiring these college interns or train them well
It's something, if in the middle of the war, senior officers can feel complacent. War is a life and death matter, for those who fight. Perhaps, communication was the problem both in the Pakistan and Indian Army, because they didn't have adequate means to do so. Compare the 1965 War to the Kargil War. The assessment of how the Indian Army fought that war wasn't negative at all. A lot of misunderstandings happen on the battlefield due to bad communication. Those Indian Army commanders who felt complacent, perhaps thought that in the prevailing situations then, our soldiers would fight better. There doesn't seem to have been any complacency in the Bangladesh War, or in the Kargil War.
Well covered.. All the errors of judgement/leadership on both sides could tempt one to call it comedy of errors Except for the lives lost. Strategies may have been outdated, op communication bad and so on... But there wre people who went beyond... And fought.
The way this gentleman is making comment on forces (irrespective of Ind or Pak) really doesn't understand the basics of war...what soldiers go through those times...he just read few books nd thought he is ready to explain a major war...really needs to prepare more...
But poor pakistanis dorsnt know its not india who attacked pakistan , indian army almost reached lahore as a counter offensive to pakistani offensive in kashmir and opening a 2nd front . 😂
@@psyayimwone it was not Counter offence, India attacked the 6 Sep 65. they bring the war at working boundary first. perhaps poor Indians don't know about that Historic event enough. most of Pakistanis are also in Illusion regarding that event.
@@MAli-rr9km it was for diverting pakistani army from kashmir ..if pakistani army wud ve taken srinagar ..indians wud ve taken lahore and negotiated whether u want a valley of forest or your main city ... simple
Well it had no intention to capture Pakistan territory nor we tried to make such an offensive ....so what were you trying to defend an attack you saw in a morning dream 🙄
Great show very poor presentation. No effort is made to keep audience interested. Looks like a high school student presenting a paper. Why should the host believe in reading strictly from the paper. Some reading is alright but this only shows poor preparation.
Had the war dragged for a week more, Pakistan would have collapsed. Pakistan's arms and ammunition reserves were critically low while India had 80% of its reserves intact.
on september 7,1965 Pakistan Airforce attacked forward Indian Airoforce bases and destroyed many planes and bases like halwara , amritsir , adampur and pathankot were destroyed. Pathankot airbase was completely destroyed and lost 22 aircraft on the ground. In 1965 Pakistan Airforce jets like F.86 and F.104 were equipped with night fighting capability , missiles and were super sonic and none of the IAF jets were equipped with these capabilites thus IAF was no match for the PAF . Two IAF jets also landed and surrendered with thier working jets. one knat and one mystere. one of the pilot was brijpaul who became the IAF chief after. In the sea Indian navy didnt even dare to challenge any Pak navy ships . Indian navy was scared of Pakistani submarine . India used world war two era tanks and thier shells were not strong enough to penetrate patton tanks . however Patton tanks targetted with more powerful guns and destroyed number of Old Indian tanks like it was another practice day for them. IAF jets were fallling of the sky like flies and Indian navy decided not die like fish so many Indian navy ships didnt even leave their docks even when dwarka naval station was under attack. we won 1965 and without the Indian Aircover and the navy support , Pakistan Airforce could cause more damage to the Indian army if Lal Bahadri didnt run to Russia 😂🤣😅_
Indian troops are excellent but unfortunately are led by very poor quality of officers. These officers join the army , not because they are interested in a military career but because of all the perks the military offers. Subsidised plots and housing , subsidised canteen facilities and a host of other perks. Most times there is little chance they will have to fight a war in their lives.
I don't agree with this at all. Indian officers are probably one of the most well trained in the world. As for joining the military is concerned , there is a competitive exam and SSB, SSB effectively screens out men who are not fit or not indoctrinated to serve the nation. I don't know the logic behind your argument but it's unproven and unfactual at best My dad served in army from 1969-1995 , the quality of forces and officers has always been high and mutual comeptence between officers is the Foundation of a strong military culture , which has existed in our army since the 60s when we first completed our military reforms The facilties you have mentioned are given to military personnel because they deserve it. Surely you deserve those if you've served for 6 months in siachen three times in your career as an infantry officer. And there is no facility of discounted military plots as you've mentioned. You're confusing DHA of Pakistan army with indian army. Indian army has no equivalent of DHA, very poorly written and researched indeed. If you're jealous of the military getting such facilities then maybe you should try to join it yourself
@@rudrakshsinghkatal5609 It is a well known fact that Indian officers are of low quality. They have very little knowledge or even interest in weapon systems , military history,and any other military subjects .I have personally known many of these ignorant officers. Their knowledge is very narrow.
@@rudrakshsinghkatal5609 I have met and know many Indian military officers , most of them had very little knowledge of weapons systems or military history. They were just not interested. All of them were only interested in the facalities the army gives them and it was just another job for them. They were not proffessional soldiers. I have met " Captain Jains " and such. When led by British officers the Indian army was good. Now , once in a while you find a good professional officer. I am not jealous of the facilities they get , I don't need them , I live a good life in the US. When I lived in India , our family had a major construction company so I did not need discounted canteen prices for my needs.
The fact that Mr Swami had to propagate official Indian version regarding role of PAF shows how badly IAF was outperformed/Mauled by PAF, but then Swami is the same chap who published the Shahzabuddin BS story, which he ultimately had to retract with egg on his face. Bottomline PAF performed brilliantly against IAF.
Yeah PAF is known for its lies. They claimed in 65 that its one pilot Alam shot down 5 Indian jets in 30 seconds but they were never able to prove that, maybe only proved in hollywood movies. Similarly in balakot incident they claimed to capture 2 indian pilots and shot down Su30 but neither they could show the 2nd pilot or proof of shooting down Su30. Later US department of defense also caught their lie of never counting F16's.
Yes, genetically they are from the same racial stock,although Pakistanis would like to present themselves as 'those that are not Indian'. Pakistan was carved out of India in 1947,so obviously they are the same. Depending on the mood and season, they like to claim Arab, Turkic, Mughal, etc. ancestry, anything to prove to themselves they are not Indian. And we speak the same language, which they call Urdu and Indians call Hindi. Either way, Urdu is an Indian language. What most in Northern India and most of Pakistan speak is actually Hindustani, a mixture of Urdu, Hindi, Punjabi, Farsi words. Both have their regional languages as well, but the common language is Hindustani.
@@asangha182 I didnt want to insul anyone, thats why I asked. Thanks for the explenation. Its the same with Croats and Serbs, but if you call them same ur in for trouble.
@@asangha182 Sir Pakistan was not carved out of so-called "Rep Of India" but rather from "British India" and folk do not claim to be Arabs, Turks or Persians this is your misconception BTW even the folk of so-called "Rep Of India" are not one and the same let alone the same as Pakistanis, it is true that there are similarities in adjacent areas ie Lahore and Amritisar will share a great deal but not with Tamils, Biharis, Madrasis Orissans etc, AND only some of us speak the same languages and i am not talking of the British imposed Lucknowi language which was alien to the historical Indus Basin.Regards
@@gangadeshmatakimaut4739 but you look very similar. Could you tell apart a person from UK and Iraw? Yes pretty easy. But could you tell apart a Indian and a Pakistani? I doubt so.
In the end India had occupied far more territory than pakistan did in kashmir so... And had the war been prolonged India odds were heavily in India's favour!!!
on september 7,1965 Pakistan Airforce attacked forward Indian Airoforce bases and destroyed many planes and bases like halwara , amritsir , adampur and pathankot were destroyed. Pathankot airbase was completely destroyed and lost 22 aircraft on the ground. In 1965 Pakistan Airforce jets like F.86 and F.104 were equipped with night fighting capability , missiles and were super sonic and none of the IAF jets were equipped with these capabilites thus IAF was no match for the PAF . Two IAF jets also landed and surrendered with thier working jets. one knat and one mystere. one of the pilot was brijpaul who became the IAF chief after. In the sea Indian navy didnt even dare to challenge any Pak navy ships . Indian navy was scared of Pakistani submarine . India used world war two era tanks and thier shells were not strong enough to penetrate patton tanks . however Patton tanks targetted with more powerful guns and destroyed number of Old Indian tanks like it was another practice day for them. IAF jets were fallling of the sky like flies and Indian navy decided not die like fish so many Indian navy ships dodnt leave their docks even when dwarka naval station was under attack. we won 1965 and could cause more damage if Lal Bahadri didnt run to Russia
@@prateekdhingra292 Why ? what's wrong with copying and pasting your own comment ? Do you think People have time to type thing all over again ? There is a reason that copy- paste exists.
Chutiye objective reflection jaroori hota hai apni khud ki history pe. Tumhare jaise bewkoof bhare pade hai is desh me jinko dekh ke mera khoon khaulta hai.
boring boring boring news ......yeh 65 ka news ya 71 ka news ho ya inflation , unemployment , development, etc ka news ho soon soon k mere kaan pak gaye hai .... hhindu- mmoslim , mandir mmajid par debate karao tab toh maaza aye .....aur tharka lagane k liye xmuusllims ko bhi bulaya karo ....tab to todha maaza aye..
If you are making a multi episode series, it would be nice if you could link it with a hash tag to make it easier to find the related episode. Also it would help to put the episode number in the series in the thumbnail. It disappoints me that this channel just refuses to help thier viewers watch more of related content with basic common sense improvements despite several suggestions. @thePrint
