India’s Airline Problem 

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I wish there was a subject studying airlines at school. I would love it.

I’m American and I’ve been to India 3 times. Always love their insanely low air fares, they are so low you start to worry how they offer seats so cheap. Indigo is a modern well run airline, air India is scary!

Another reason for low profitability is the Indian Railways. It has vast operational network across India with affordable prices unless u opt for premium trains or class. Many of the middle class people opt for rail journey instead of flight due to huge difference in travel cost.

Being half owned by Singapore Airlines, I think Vistara will be a success in India.

I am Indian and i am impressed with amount of information you have I don't have enough financial independence to support you on patreon but i will promote your channel personally to my friends i used to do that for polymatter , wendover production , Caspian report and many more you are also in my list

I used to fly in Jet Airways from Paris to Mumbai.... I miss them... They were amazing... Better than other French carriers

UDAN: "Ude Desh ka Aam Nagarik" basically means "Every Common Man will Fly"

Dan this case study is brilliant ! You've perfectly exposed how the Indian Aviation Ministry has potential to do alot more for its domestic carriers . Also another factor to consider is that air fares drastically rise up during season time ( sometimes to an extent where flying international is more feasible ) which brings in the affordability factor for the average consumer ( in comparison to other modes such Rail and Roadways ) Looking forward to the Jet Airways video 💯

Do Thomas Cook. I loved working for them and it’s shocking a profitable airline had to shutdown due to the brand as a whole 🥺🥺. I was on duty, 3am, when the news broke it was awful.

Here's a fun fact: Most of the Cabin Crew from collapsed Jet, are now part of Qatar Airways Cabin Crew

Any impact that Indian railways has on passenger volume? Even the growth of airlines has barely dented rail passenger volume

I feel like "Smaller communities" undersells the lack of infrastructure that you have at these airports. The airport closest to my extended family is STV, which was in the government scheme to improve access. We flew into this airport having spent some time in Goa in 2016, which was the last time I went to India. Despite being a city of ~5m people the airport terminal was smaller than the train station in my university city of ~80k people, which would as many passengers in an hour as STV would have in a day!

I learned a lot from this

I feel in many ways that India's aviation industry mirrors that of Mexico. Here in Mexico we have only 4 major airlines (Aeromexico, Volaris, VivaAerobus and Interjet). Corruption is also a key factor here, as Mexicana Airlines - the only other full service airline besides AMX went bankrupt several years ago. Most traffic in Mexico is also VFR, just like in India. Many airports and cities with potential throughout Mexico are also underserved, or have been nearly forgotten about, such as Cuernavaca near MEX, and Guaymas in the North of the country. Similar to Mumbai in India, Mexico City is one of the largest metropolitan areas in the world, yet only has one airport operating at capacity. Nearly all of Mexico's transatlantic traffic comes on foreign airlines. AeroMexico only serves a handful of European cities. Many European airlines dominate the long haul routes from airports in Mexico such as Cancun, Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos. This is similar how European airlines such as British or Lufthansa dominate in India, because of the perception of Air India by the population, and their lack of international services. Ultimately, I feel several other countries are faced with similar situations as India, such as in Central America and South America (very few airlines, high ticket prices, government corruption, etc). I feel this video was very helpful understanding the airline industry a little bit more deep down so thank you very much for sharing!

I love your documentary style videos. Having been with you on this RU-vid journey since the early days of Dantorp, it’s a pleasure to watch your channel grow and the quality of your videos increasing. You really have hit professional level. Much love to you from a locked down England!

6:10 the staff have a better headset than I do, they literally have a 100 dollar hyper x stinger

Got to know about my country aviation state from a foreign guy! Thank you dan

The biggest problem is that most airports are far aware from the cities, with poor connectivity. So sometimes it takes more time to get to the airport than the actual flight times. While the railway in India, most cities are build around the station

Answer : Indian Railways

Dan just saw that you'll be making A video on Jet Airways!!And I'm dying to watch it as it was my Favorite Airline!!!!

The video is very informative and it's true that Mumbai airport lacks as compared to other. I'm from New Delhi and Live close to the airport and all I see are Indigo, air india and spicejet (all low cost airlines) and sometime vistara. It shows that there are barely any premium airlines arriving here.

Really appreciate these docu style videos Dan. Comprehensive, not overly technical and well spoken. interesting and educational to us av geeks. Well done and more please.

I really love these educational aviation videos... Maybe time for a spinoff channel when this covid mess is done !! Well done Dan !! Love your work!

I love these short docu-series Dan! Please keep them coming. Regards from South Africa! 🇿🇦

Love this kind of content, gives your channel something extra. I understand it would be difficult to take requests, but would love to see a video about asia's first and oldest commercial airline - philippine airlines.

Nice research Dan. It’s also down to the four P’s of marketing; product, price, promotion & place. Also the research you presented play a massive role. Nice video Dan. Thanks for taking your time researching this. 👍

Been a subscriber for the past 7 years and being from India I learnt a lot about the current situation. Nice job. Can you perhaps make a video on how you edit your videos its really good !!

I love this new video format. Since you can’t travel, you found a way of making fun video without flying. Keep up the great work.

Thank you, Dan. I have flown QR, Indigo, Emirates, BA, Alitalia and KLM to/from MUM and DEL. Notice -- no Air India?

I really used to wonder why Indian airlines struggle,but now I got the answer very informational

Truly a great analysis of Indian Carriers, thank you Dan for sharing this. Awaiting for your next video eagerly.

Amazing video #NonstopDan Indeed loved your vast research on Indian Aviation and their Profitability. Hyper cost sensitive market, Dominating LCC's, Under developed airport infrastructure and one of the highest ATF fuel tax by the government prevents Indian Aviation from profiting and expanding.

Hello Dan, I have recently noticed you produced the most videos per month, good job and very good videos

Loved this video, coming from a aviation enthusiast - was really interested in all the information :)

Wow this was a literal dissertation. Well done!

HI!! awesome video nonstop dan.. Im a longtime fan of your channel, and really love your background!! I am an Indian and i thought this video was very insightful and your research is just amazing. One thing I think is also a source of much difficulty for the Indian airline industry that you didn't mention is the extensive railway network in India. Many Indians are very much adapted to travelling by rail. Though this is a cheap service, it is not very time efficient. I hope that things will change! Love your channel and hope to see many more videos like this!

Dear Dan, You also have to factor in buying capability of passengers. People have get paid meager salaries making it impossible for them to purchase airline tickets from full service carriers and forcing budget airlines to drop prices. This is also a reason for people preferring trains in India because they are cheaper.

What mic are u using for ur voiceovers Dan?

Just rediscovered your channel with these educational video, they are definitely quality ! I would love to see more of these

This is so crazy I travelled to India last year and I remember flying indigo and spice jet I’ll leave my options to myself but if you want to hear them lmk

A great insight as an Air Transport and Operations student. Currently pursuing the Masters in The Netherlands. As an Indian, this made a lot of sense :)

Very enjoyable Dan. And a great summary. I'd love to know why they need the follow-me vehicles for airlines that are incumbent in the country.

Really like your video. Hope you make video of more struggling airlines in near future.

Loving these informative videos (etihad and this) keep them coming 👌🙏🏼 even when u can start flying as usual I think everyone would like for u to keep making them if possible

USA: *WE HAVE THE WORST AIRLINES* INDIA: *HOLD MY BEER*

This is awesome Dan!! Please keep making more such videos.. you nailed it!! 🤩

Hey dan you’re right about the perception of international airlines being better. One of the reasons could be ticket prices. For example while travelling to the US, ticket prices on British airways,Lufthansa etc was half that of jet airways and air India

Ummm.. loved it! The way u presented👌. Waiting for nxt such videos.. keep coming🛫.. Stay safe💫💝

Dan, this video is amazing! very educational! I bet it took a long time to create this video. Thank you!

Jewar Airport is also being built in Uttar Pradesh with initial capacity of 6-8 Mn passengers and 2 runways expanding it into 60-70 Mn passengers with 6 runways

Your description of Indian airlines rings true with my very limited experiences. I was in Bengaluru (BLR) when JET collapsed. This city has one terminal and one or two runways. International flights used the airport at night. My flight leaving was scheduled to leave at 3 AM! BLR was in the midst of building a second terminal. Rumor was it would have been for international flights only.

Very well researched and informative. This ought to have been part of an MBA case study !

Four reasons: 1. Huge tax 2. Huge airport cost. 3. Huge fuel price 5. Price sensitive

It wasn't always dirt cheap even at the hight of the aviation bubble. I remember having to pay 200 usd for one way tickets to Daramshala from Delhi circa 2009-2010. Considering I only had to pay 300 dollars round trip for my international flights to Delhi from my country.

Very interesting video, Dan. I learned something!

I worked with Indian internal East West Airlines in the 90's as a supplier. It collapsed after the MD was shot dead by a Mumbai criminal gang. There were some allegations floating around at the time. EWA was the first scheduled private airline in the country that was launched as soon as the Indian economy opened. It will be interesting to see what you actually say about Jet Dan. I'll have a look at that video on Jet Airlines to see what you say about their rivalry with EWA at the very beginning!!!!

I live in bombay and now in HK and see spicejet 737 indigo a 320 and air india 787 dreamliner here in HK

This topic is very intreresting, Dan! I hope there is more educational avation videos in the near future.

Another great reason for no indian airlines serving internationally is the weakness of indian passport which allows citizens to visit visa free to smthing around 63 countries only as compared to 185 countries which US citizens can travel visa free and getting a visa involves time and process which people tend to avoid!!

I think major factor is that India is surrounded by quite a few foreign hubs conveniently located for major markets (Europe (middle east), Far East & USA (Europe or Far East). A lot of these hubs are bases for good quality airlines (great customer service) ,reasonable prices, often massive baggage allowance and often connecting flights to airports near their final destination in India. While the Indian international airlines have in my experience got a reputation for poor service, planes not maintained well and delays, so people tend to spend a little extra especially for these long haul flights from US or Europe.

As a person more in the tech industry, I have the a similar question, how is it possible for India not to have their own phone or computer brands? Especially in tech that many Indians have a great knowledge in both hardware and software....

I would love to see Jet Airways case study.

Amazing video of Air India. Makes me wanna visit and explore rhe air industries in India. Sounds fun and exciting; makes me also wanna be a flight attendant in the coming yrs.

Loved the presentation and information. Hope the aviation industry thrives back again all over the world. It still remains the most fascinating industry in my opinion. 🤗

You have covered some amazing nuances of the Indian market Dan! So thank you so much for that!

Brilliant stuff Dan...really enjoyed it mate...often wondered why Indian Aviation is such a mess in such a large nation !! Thanks mate and looking forward to the episode !! Thank You !!

Indian Aviation sector is really very complex... it's a price sensitive market as people look for cheaper tickets rather than meal services and so the big companies like Indigo, Spice jets cuts there cost to offer competitive prices and which results in loss to other airlines when they can't provide at competitive prices.

I know the quality is little low. Anyway glad to see my video footage on your channel. Thanks 🙏

Haven’t watched it yet but am sure it’s gonna be great! Love from India 🇮🇳 !

I actually love these videos!

I really love this new format 😍😍😍

Impressive research on the Indian aviation market. As much of a skeptic I am in opinions drawn by most many aviation critics, this has to be by far the most sensible insight into the overall health and challenges faced for continued sustainability in Indian aviation.Just to add, airlines in India recorded a profit for the last quarter of 2019. Indigo reported profit upward 500 million $, Go air and Spicejet too reported profits. Vistara still needs to break even and with international ops soon to begin, they wouldn’t want to loose time. As you have pointed out, the poor government policies as among the main reasons for airlines to barely make ends meet, there are some other points that I would like to shed some light on:- 1) Govt has recently reworked on the air navigation restrictions that were in force all along, paving the way for more direct routing, avoiding circumventing military and security navigational restrictions, thereby cutting costs. 2) India inkling on a dream to became a hub is still a long shot, at the moment only Delhi has the geographical, national significance and a fairly acceptable infrastructure to pull of something of a hub model, however, this model is in itself questionable in the post covid world. India has the scale and the means to capitalise on the very under served colossal middle class population. Just catering to the millions within the country could make it cut across the nation for airlines to break even. The gulf airlines monopoly and the past governments liberal policies encouraging international airlines at the perils of our own state carriers have much to be blamed for it. All hope is not lost, the new policy in the wake of COVID has given a much needed impetus for Indian airlines to operate internationally on a priority basis. Let’s hope things change for good.

Good video. I just wanted to add from personal experience why Indian prefer international carriers over Air India is because of the way they are treated by flight crew (Stewards/air hostesses). I have witnessed the change in body language ,attitude and mannerism in which they interact with an Indian traveler vs one from the west. It was actually sad they variance in service in the same flight. This is only in Air India, as Jet Airways services have actually been very good.

Brilliant! Informative, inspiration, in-depth... look forward to more mini documentaries... these are top grade, better than CNN or Bloomberg

@nonstop dan You have not considered two very important factors in the domestic sector. India has a very intense railway network that provides access to the middle of the city. The railway times are set at a good time with its super comfortable at a third of a price. I prefer an overnight journey on the train which I can board in the middle of the city and reaching less than 15 minutes prior to departure. Airports are situated away from the city which add an additional hour or two of commute, in addition to the cost. Indian Railway plays a great alternative to flights, especially for travels less than 7-8 hours (500 miles).

Hello Dan. I think you are mistaken, but TruJet is still flying! They are operating flights every day even during the pandemic! The Wikipedia page of TruJet says it has ceased operations but it is still flying! Have a look on flight radar 24 or other social media platforms. They are active! Other than that, a very informative video. Really liked it :D. Can't wait to see the Jet Airways one. There is also news that Jet Airways is getting revived. Hope to hear that news in your video too!

Just a fact check: Mumbai's current airport has 2 active runways and 89 gates in terminal 2, 30 in Terminal 1. Traffic flows in Mumbai well, but you're certainly correct about the monopoly.

Kids fly Emirates, Etihad, Qantas, Men fly Air India, Indigo, SpiceJet, Legends wait for *JioAirlines*

Great documentary Dan. What you said about the airports in India, it's unprofitable such as Kolkata where it lost two links to Europe such as London Heathrow with British Airways and Frankfurt Airport from Lufthansa. Partly is due to the cost of aviation fuel and other parts of due to the airport infrastructure, washrooms, and the food such as airline catering. There is a big difference if you fly out of Mumbai, New Delhi, Bangalore, or even Chennai where there airports are better organized by the airlines compared to Kolkata Airport which is underserved by foreign airlines except for Thai Airways, Singapore Airlines, Qatar Airways and a few others. British Airways, Lufthansa Airlines, Turkish Airlines and other foreign airlines may not want to go to Kolkata fit to a lack of business opportunities in that city.

"VFR" does not stand for "Visiting Family and Friends" -- not least because it isn't even the correct combination of letters, to stand for that. (It stands for "Visual Flight Rules.")

Corruption is one of the big issues with any business in India. This in itself is one of the main reasons potential buyers of struggling airlines are scared of jumping in. The government being corrupt itself and owning shares does instill confidence.

Please make a video on STV Airport. Being one of the fastest developing city of the globe, STV isn’t having much of air connectivity.

Great analysis Dan, I learnt a lot here

Stockholm has 4 airports and not 2 as mentioned in the video. The airports are: Arlanda Airport (ARN), Bromma Airport (BMA), Västerås Airport (VST), Skavsta Airport (NYO).

Love to see the Clips from Calicut International Airport ❤️❤️❤️

I need a video on airline names and HOW IN THE WORLD the name Jet Airways was even available. :)

@NonstopDan Glad u lived in Hyd! Hope u had a great time here.

Great video! You should look into the Canadian Airline industry - it’s a hot mess and the landing costs are some of (if not) the highest anywhere!

Love how a good portion of the video is based in SFO (G93 AI174) and BLR (The Indigo footage).. Also, flying was a luxury for the longest time. Growing up, flying was almost never an option to get from city to city. You always defaulted to the trains. Things have changes A LOT in the last 15 years with larger number of travel websites making it possible to book tickets from home, penetration of the internet and the increase in number of airlines. People now see airlines as a travel option which is a huge change.

Listening to this in a car, going towards to work at the airport DEL

What is the song called between 2:30 and 3:30?

Your channel is really informative from a Kenyan fan

Yea buddy! Well done as always, Dan. A great analysis for a key region in worldwide aviation.

Well, thats how the govt is running things here. I remember when the govt asked legendary aircraft designer Kurt Tank (who designed the FW190) to develop an indigenous aircraft (HAL MARUT). First, they didnt give him enough time and resources to build a proper aircraft. and when Kurt Tank did make an aircraft, the govt blamed him for not making a proper aircraft. Bureaucracy just wasted away all of Tank's potential.

We have amazing railway network in India which serves the majority of the country. We didn't miss having air transportation for a really long time.

Dan, amazingly interesting video's. You just keep going! So nice!

I'm losing my shit every time he says udan 😂 cause udan literally means 'poop' in my language Oromo

You are the RU-vidr whom I follow the most you just excellent videos sir

Well researched video Dan. Great job !