Because the backlash of firing her would, in their minds, be too great to do. You cant fire the "strong, independent woman whos showing all the men what's wrong with their movies and doing them better."
The saddest part is Indy is one of the most revered classic characters, and whilst I felt the reputation was still upheld after Crystal Skull, this movie was an insult to Indy, it would’ve been a fine ending with his marriage to Marion at the end of the last one.
Imagine if the film was about Indy and Marion joining Mutt on his own adventure? They'd travel to China in the middle of the Cold War, assisting a contact who turns out to be a grown-up Short Round.
@timesnewlogan2032 exactly if they'd have paid attention to the game Homefront they could have gotten it to at least make more sense lol. The funny thing was it was supposed to be China but uhm yeah you could imagine how the CCP felt and no self depreciating production company would let that happen.
@@writingonthewall3326 Its a perfect description of the rabid Marxist feminist matriarchy of incompetence, divisiveness, and hate that has destroyed everything from education to entertainment....
One thing I really liked about the cars 3 movie was taht although the new female character that came in to help out the male lead find his hights again is a great talent in of herself. The movies still made it clear taht his experiences are very valuable and you can really feel his knowledge and skill that has built up over the years. Crazy how cars 3 did it better than the majority of box office movies these days.
I like to think that there's an unused ending somewhere where Indy stays in the past and at the end Marion, mourning his disappearance, attends a museum showing of the discovery of an 'ancient hero' lost to time and sees the hat and realises that it's Indy. It would bring the whole series full circle because Indy himself would 'belong in a museum' and become a key part of history that he loves so much. The worst part of the film for me was the end, when Indy decides to stay in the past and 'strong female character' takes his choice away and knocks him out, deciding for him. Having an abrasive, unlikeable woman with no positive qualities force Indy to make a major life decision against his will is the biggest disgrace of the film. Indy is a man who always makes his own choices, for better or worse and that was the most unforgivable part of this film for me, which did have some good moments and overall could have been better than Crystal Skull by a longshot.
Jesus Christ, watch the movie again, but this time without your political specs on. Not every movie that comes out nowadays is going to push the message, and that applies to Disney products too. You have to at least try to live in the moment, and not make everything about politics.
@@gavinvales8928 You're just plain wrong here, narratively the film is absolutely pushing that agenda, just not as overtly as in other films. Just because you can't see how they're doing it doesn't mean others cant.
At this point it's hard to say who has done more damage to Lucasfilm....George Lucas himself with the shitty prequels and Crystal Skull, or Disney with the sequels + Dial Of Destiny.
@@xuvial1391 One wanted to tell stories that expanded the scope of what the franchises could be and also expand the medium by pushing it forward. You may not always agree with his choices but there was sincere artistic merit to always try new things that didn't walk all over what came before. They were also very personal in the case of Star Wars as if you know where to look it tells his life story. Temple of Doom too. The other wants to bank on your nostalgia while making safe calculated rehashes that also regress legacy characters. It's not that hard to see the difference as it may seem. Also, don't forget Spielberg was part of making Crystal Skull too.
@@xuvial1391I plead to disagree with the point on the prequels. The prequels by no way were “shitty films”. Their backstory of anakin skywalker and most of everything else was done perfectly, the only issue the prequels had was George Lucas and his flawed ability of writing dialogue
@@xuvial1391 really nothing to complain about when it comes to lucas, prequels and crystal skull, though flawed, have intelligent and psychically responsible messaging.
One of the reasons I absolutely love Top Gun: Maverick is that they didn't make Pete a washed up, depressed husk of a man. They made everything he used to be, but seasoned from experience.. ya know, like a real person.
@@kittyhawk9707 completely relevant. Contrasting Disney's now trademarked destruction of a beloved character by making him a withered husk of his former self with Paramount's source-material-respecting approach of making him jaded but competent and still able to teach the up-and-comers a thing or three. Or did you just want me to say "Drinkers tone at the end made it clear he's fed up" like half the other people here.
I enjoyed the beginning and the ending. The travel through time. That paranormal event that is in every Indiana Jones movie. It's magical. But I was bored during the middle. I really liked that Marion came back. Call me sentimental.
Saw this movie this evening... my God you're spot on!! To me the most insulting part of the strong female character was somehow knowing what was best for Indy at the end when he made it 110% clear it was his decision to stay in past". Then she's all "no, I know better because... reasons". I think that would have served as a better ending to the Indy saga. But nooooo.....
at this point KK's self casting of a young brunette woman in every movie about a male protagonist, is definite proof that she's really salty about her years as a bad looking assistant who's been a side character all her life and now she's out for revenge on... fans ? lol
What’s with so many self-insert characters for women these days? This is the type of shit that wouldn’t be excusable as writing after elementary school.
I'm British-Italian, and on both sides of my family (from York in the British side and from the South in the Italian side), I have had grandparents and uncles who lived until they were 100 years old. All of these people, until their last day, were incredibly proud individuals, always full of energy. They were never sad, depressed, or anything like that Indiana Jones character. Beyond my family, I know thousands of elders who have much more energy than me, a bloody millennial who finds it hard to get up from their chair. They were shaped by the Second World War, and they never lost their characteristic pride and energetic lifestyle when facing life. So this notion of old, depressed people like Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker doesn't hold up at all. Maybe a better script would be an older character who demonstrates much more courage and resilience than a bunch of kids who can only play with their smartphones, myself included. And just because the authors are Americans doesn't mean they should have the idea of "depressed old people," because many of the old Americans I've met are just as hardcore as the European ones. 💀☠💀☠💀
I've also seen old people who were full of vitality and were very impressive, it's so heartwarming. And then a tragedy befalls them and they change completely. That happens all the time too. Not everyone is happy-go-lucky. Depression is okay and real.
@@Dilmahkana I believe that elder depression is influenced by many factors. One common factor is when they feel excluded from society and forgotten by their family and those around them, or when they are treated poorly as if they have been discarded after a lifetime of use. However, if an elderly person remains active by engaging in activities such as playing chess, reading, creating art or small crafts, or taking care of their home, they can maintain their well-being until their last day of life. Perhaps what you're referring to is the fatigue that elderly individuals often experience before passing away, rather than depression. It's been observed that people tend to become sad, tired, and disinterested in interacting with the world as they approach the end of their lives. However, this fatigue is primarily due to a worn-out body, and it differs significantly from the feeling of true depression, where a person feels disconnected from the world, utterly useless, and abandoned by society.
So true!! I interview patients into their 90’s and they truly inspire me with their optimism, enthusiasm and gusto for life! It’s really so awesome and cool to think, many of them lived happy lives and still enjoy exercising, their spouses and have just a good sense of humor about life. This is what Indiana Jones character should have been. Not weak, futile and naive. How in the world does this tall female know 1/10 the wisdom that he does?! The movie would’ve been better if he taught her a lesson or two. Thank you for your comment!
I'm impressed with Kennedy's ability for the Indiana Jones series. It took a few years for her to destroy Star Wars, but it only took one movie to fully bury the Indiana Jones series.
It's really not all that impressive actually, when Last Jedi come out, people still have hope that Lucasfilm could make the next movie better But after many failure, people just don't trust Lucasfilm anymore. Indiana 5 got released by the time Lucasfilm at their worst, so people are already have many doubt about it even before it come out
Remember that South Park episode where George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg raped Indiana Jones after the premiere of Crystal Skull? Now replaced both of them with Disney and Kathleen Kennedy for this movie.
@@ngoclamtruong5033 it was slow, but impressive imo. It takes balls to take something like Star Wars and misuse it constantly to make many crappy movies and shows to the point that Star Wars no longer excites many people.
I love how The Drinker, says the writers aren't creators. This is coming from the HACK who ripped off the Bourne books and Tom Clancy. You understand that Kennedy doesn't write, star , direct or actually do anything besides put money towards the project, correct?
She must have SO MUCH DIRT on these Hollywood execs to still be here 30 years later cranking out money-losing DIRGE! She's like a movie industry version of Ghislaine Maxwell ffs
I had a glimpse of hope watching the first 15mins of this movie until the strong female character appeared and it was all downhill from there. You are spot on, the modern film studios are not creators but destroyers.
My son turned me in the cinema when Shaw punched Indy. He said “why did she do that?”. Poor kid, I didn’t have the heart to tell him the truth, nor would he understand.
He wouldn't - but the powers that be feel compelled to portray White men in any negative light that is humanly possible. No different to the garbage ads where White men are mere buffoons.
As someone who does creative writing for a hobby, I have to say: these films make me realize what NOT to do when creating a story and forming characters. (It's disappointing to see that modern entertainment is showing me the things I should NOT do when it comes to creative storytelling. That's just sad.) The critique from channels like this one also help to see what makes these films so... icky. It makes me reflect on the choices I've made in my own works so that I don't make the same mistakes. So... yikes.
@@johntiggleman4686 There was a period of my life where I was hoping the books and comics I've read would get some sort of adaptation, these days I just pray everyone ignores my darlings.
I watched the movie listening to the score, could be one one of the last John Williams scores. Many of the scenes would have fallen flat without music, JW did a wonderful job as usual, with subtlety, fun and nuance. He kept the old Indy alive like an IV drip.😊
Kathleen Kennedy is an inspirational woman. She proves that you don’t have to have any talent, skill, awareness or creativity to still thrive at the top of an industry bravo.
The last shot of this video says it all. The iconic closing of Last Crusade with Indy, his dad and the others riding into the sunset. That's the Indy I will remember. We didn't see him age out, and we didn't need to. He was just Indiana goddamn Jones, whip-toting, snake- hating treasure hunter. Forever.
Henry Jones: calm down Jr. Indiana Jones: stop calling me that!! Indi's friend: what's with this Jr.? Henry: that's his name Henry Jones Jr. Indiana Jones: I like the name Indiana. Henry: we called the dog Indiana. Indi's friend: (laughing) a dog? You named yourself after a dog? (laughing) Indiana Jones: I had fond memories of that dog.
But this is pure fiction. It's a fantasy, a delusion and story we tell ourselves time and time again, to repress thinking of mortality and death. I like that our childhood Hero's are deconstructed to the point where we see their fragility, because that is what we are. It is grounded in reality.
@@RoseJetExhaust If that's what you want to get out of it, I can certainly respect that view, and you are correct. Of course it's fiction, that's the whole point, movies are a form of escapism. It's not necessary to see Indy, or Han Solo or some other classic swashbuckling hero, to always be seen later as this downtrodden, sad old man whose life went to shite. Couldn't he just be chilling happily with Marion when adult Short Round shows up to beg for his help rescuing some Chinese artifact for reasons? I'd be right on that. I'm just saying every film doesn't need the harsh reality of life. We've got enough of that already lol.
I'll tell you one thing they really screwed up, was when and how they revealed that Mutt had died. Now don't get me wrong - I was no fan of that character in Crystal Skull. However, they misled us to believe that Indy was a depressed alcoholic due to separation with Marion. That is out of character for Indy, and it just didn't make sense. Later, in a very indirect and offhanded way it was finally revealed to us that Mutt died in the military. They could have made a much more compelling plot narrative out of it if handled right. Something like this... Mutt died, we find out right when we jump forward to 1969. Marion has separated from Indy. It is revealed to us later in the movie that Marion found out Indy had half the Antikythera mechanism, and that it was rumored to allow time travel. Marion, having experienced many supernatural things in the previous movies, totally believed that it could, and that Indy should devote all his energy to finding the other half. Indy did not believe it, and thought it was a bunch of BS, so he would not go after it. Marion was so hurt and enraged that she separated from Indy. She nearly goes mad (in place of Phoebe's dad) researching and hunting the mechanism for that reason. Even though she doesn't blame Indy for Mutt's death, she is just as upset with him for not doing everything he can to try and undo it. Phoebe in this movie is unredeemable, almost exactly like Dr. Elsa Schneider in Last Crusade. She has a kind of child like innocence, naivety and lack of moral compass that leads her down almost the same plot path. Phoebe sets things in motion, through her knowledge that Indy has half the Antikythera, and she manages to steal it from him. Now Indy has no choice but to get it back, and in the process of the adventure it leads him to the other half. He also encounters Marion, in a very similar situation as in Raiders - she is in some foreign country, scraping by a living, after having run out of money and being stranded. They use the Antikythera device, and just like in the film they travel to the wrong time. However, Phoebe gets left behind and eventually dies thousands of years in the past. Indy tries to save her, but can't, and she's gone forever. Indy and Marion now understand the flaw of the Antikythera device, and with that knowledge they successfully go back in time to save Mutt. They manage to talk him out of enlisting. Then, in the final emotional climax of the film, when Indy and Marion return to the future they find that Mutt is still dead - he has died of some other cause. They realize that they cannot change fate, and no matter what they do Mutt is destined to die in the past. Or if you want, it's all a happy ending and when they come back to the present time, Mutt is alive and well.
Two missed opportunities I thought surrounding Helena. 1, her father should have been Marcus Brody. And by the trailers, I thought Toby Jones was playing a young Brody. It would have tied her in better with Indy. 2. Maybe instead of Helena, the sidekick could have been a grown up Shorty. The kid who was the sidekick on his first adventure, comes back as an adult, down on his luck, and resorts to robbing his old friend of a priceless artifact to sell at an auction. Indy refuses to believe that Shorty is capable of such a thing and comes back as a friend and father figure to Shorty. Then at the end, Shorty is the one who refuses to let his adopted dad go, and reunites Indy and Marion.
Indiana jones was a tenured professor for over 30 years and his father was also educated and would have left him a sizeable amount of money after he passed away. How exactly is Indiana jones left broke living in a low rent apartment?
At least Crystal Skull gave Indy a satisfying, happy ending to cap stone the series. He married the woman he loved, he has a capable and honorable son to enjoy his life with. This tears it apart
No way, because it fits the character isn't it? Just think about it. Harrison had a great time making the movie, he wanted to do it. This was a last adventure, and we should take it this way, ofc it's not better than any previous ones, maybe except Crystal Skull.
More like return to the recliner and fall asleep with the paper on top of you. Your son has forgotten you and your wife died last year. You can't knock the top off of rice pudding never mind hardened criminals. Now that film is called reality.
Just went to see the film yesterday and was a bit skeptical going into this video. However I’m really surprised that nearly every point you made is completely spot on to what I was feeling. The train scene at the start WAS the best part of the film, there were way too many boring car chases, how did Waller know where they were in Crete? The little Spanish boy WAS just another attempt at recreating Short Round, Indie should have just stayed in the past in the ending… Also that scene where Indie knocks over all the pots in the storeroom seems really out of character, and it’s weird that he only uses the whip once during the film where I can think of a dozen occasions in Morocco where I would have come in handy? The only thing I disagree with is that Wombat isn’t as bad as you made her out to be (even though her character motivation keeps changing after the boat scene). Also I think the sudden personality shift of Dr Jones is justified considering Mutt died in Vietnam (at least I think that’s what they said, I can’t remember if they mentioned him dying or not) Also the other bad guys were actually really cool, especially the big burly guy. Overall I think it’s better than Crystal Skull, but not as good as the OT
I took my 84 year old grandpa to see this movie. He loves action movies and I used to watch the original Indiana Jones movies with him as a kid. I didn't read or watch any reviews before going so I didn't have any expectations. We both really enjoyed this movie. I don't understand the hate, even after watching the review. Especially about the Wombat character and Indiana Jones' character. I agree with you that Indy changed because his son died and his wife left. Life lost its flavor and he gets a taste for it again at the end of the movie. For me, Temple of Doom remains the worst Indiana Jones movie. Billie's whining and screaming is unbearable the entire film. For this movie, my grandpa and I enjoyed seeing the old characters and enjoyed the action sequences. My grandpa was very amused when Indy was struggling with physical limitations due to age. The only bit I thought was boring was when the characters met Archemides.
Kathleen Kennedy likes to GUT heroes of the past. I dunno why or who hurt her, but I'm guessing it was someone who was angry at her purposely breaking their nicest stuff.
I went to the theater with no expectations and still ended up disappointed. I can’t believe people are saying this is better than kingdom of the crystal skull. I’m like REALLY? This makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like the Last Crusade. At least Indiana Jones was the Indy we knew and loved in the 4th. He doesn’t even fight in the 5th movie. He gets some hits in but mostly he gets overpowered by everyone else. I get it he’s old but that’s the point. Indy was watchable because he was an adventurer that was always in way over his head but was able to come out on top because he could handle himself. The younger Indy would easily make quick work with the villains in the 5th film by himself.
I showed my 7 year old son the Indiana Jones trilogy while he was off school this week with tonsillitis. He loved them and asked if there were any more Indiana Jones movies to watch. I said "no, just the trilogy".
Good. That was the right thing to do. Like not telling them Santa Clause etc is not real. He will find out in his own time and way. There are only 3 Indy movies. The other two were made years too late and for the wrong reasons and it shows. Your clever white lie means he can enjoy the Indiana Jones stories as we all did back in the 80s without them being ruined. When he is older he can make up his mind if he wants to see the two belated bad films. If he wants more Indy, get hold of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. He will enjoy those and learn something of history and world into the bargain.....without knowing he is being taught and keeping it fun....the best way to educate a child in my book....
The same way with my boys and star wars. They can discover the wreckage on their own voyage in life. I like the movie magic being there, and that they have a connection to these older films.
Drinker, you master of analysis, I think you should rewatch Indy and the Crystal Skull. I think you’ll be surprised how it’s not as bad as we all remember. I think it would be cool to see the side by side comparison of character arcs between crystal skull and dial of destiny.
The only thing that would save this movie would be an arrow in Helen's neck for interrupting Archimedes and telling men what to do. I would rewatch it daily at the movies and give it 10/10 ratings.
"soul wrenching 'go away now!'" is what I walked away with also. There was quite some pinache in that summary which was ultimately liberal Hollywood's report card which is a fail on a 15-point grading scale (the same one North Carolina uses).
“And they talk about the male ego” 100% !! I actually just saw these movies in a completely new way. They are Kathleen’s fantasy of George Lucas being a wasted old man and her taking his place as a powerful and refreshing female. She must have been building up resentment about not being as good as him over years and years. He was so good and she wasn’t, she couldn’t cope with it. So she imagined herself as perfect and him as a loser, and that’s what we see playing out on screen over and over. These new movies are her psyche forced onto old franchises. Amazing insight Drinker.
@@MarVIogs She owes him everything yet gives nothing back. Oh well, I just hope Lucas and Spielberg were dicks for her to work with and had their fun. If they were nice to her then it's doubly fucked up.
@@matthewrichmond4139 I’m being flippant, but the film industry has been used for purposes other than mere entertainment in the past. In the same way we see historical figures smeared, statues toppled etc, I wonder if destroying iconic masculine heroes of the big screen is an extension of the current post-truth western paradigm
After watching this at the cinema my first thought was "I kinda wish they made the whole movie like the first 15 mins".... Temple was a prequel. So could this have been and hence we could all stick to riding into the sunset is the end of the FOUR Indy movies.
I can't get over the incredibly poignant metaphor of dragging Indiana Jones out of the past, where he was comfortable and wanted to die, into the modern age where he is miserable, soulless, and depressing. If that isn't modern Hollywood I don't know what is.
Bro seemed genuinely happy and satisfied with staying in the past, but then they just had to pull the typical “time travel trope” where changing the past can have dire consequences even though he’s on the brink of death and can’t really do much. I feel so bad for Jones 😢 and I hope that dictator Kathleen Kennedy can soon face consequences for ruining some of the best movie series of all time
I watched Raider and the Last Crusade for the second time like two weeks ago. They have aged fine. Action scenes and humor still stands up, which is all that matters for films like these. Indiana Jones is in it's core is like a more heroic take on the basic pulp formula of adventure man going to exotic location to plunder artifacts. Making a film with that kind of formula these days is hard. First of all the Indiana Jones title wasn't passed on when Harrison Ford was young, so the namesake role is attached to an actor who is too old to do actual action scenes. Second, in the current year you have all sorts of harpies screeching about colonialism and racism and what have you if you do a movie about a white guy ransacking ethnic dungeons. And then you have the usual feel of films made by a committee that modern Disney is so notorious of and overabundant use of CGI, which ages a lot less gracefully than properly done scenes on set.
Having Indy stay in the past would’ve been a history-altering event that could lead to a terrible outcome. And he’s not going to be miserable anymore now that his wife’s back.
@@howaboutno7959all it is now is dust and echoes. That’s it. There’s no stone left unturned, all that it is now is a grave yard of were once great franchises have been drained and left to rot.
@@wonkabars6982 you know what, I think I’ve finally figured it out. This whole situation with Disney reminds me of Halo Reach. Both are similar but different, in that in Reach, your efforts where futile but you tried to save the planet. With Disney, however, they did the opposite, in that they purposely glassed their beloved ips for vain brown points and the “modern audience”, but ended up killing the very golden eggs that gave them success in the first place
I don't consider my self pessimistic, but the older I get the more I have to agree with my dad. "Everything you loved growing up turns to shit". Which sucks so much to actually experience.
Here’s my advice, stop consuming Western media, unless it’s agreed by a large amount of people to be really good, instead look to the East because they have so many stories to tell in many different ways, from live action drama/comedy, to vidja games, to animations, to their better comics. In other words, ignore the west, embrace Japan.
48 years old and experiencing it too. My wife and I are about to emigrate to a south-eastern country to live a simpler life there in a year or so from now. I'm not planning to follow the news much there. No disappointments about movies and pop culture, no frustration about the LGBTQQ+ community and islam both taking power and suppressing western society, no stupid laws about the environment that makes life seriously difficult and expensive while China is building over 800 coal plants etc etc etc. Just a simple life with a house on the beach, renting out a few huts to make a living.
If the Drinker is wondering can Hollywood still continue an established franchise today he should watch Confess, Fletch. A not great movie but still decent enough to leave the hero intact in an era of mass castration. They manage to update the character for modern times without turning him into a walking wimp. Jon Hamm has fun with his role and the movie is moderately entertaining. No MeToo references that I could remember.
I thought Drinker was quite generous with that one. I didn't even think the beginning was good. To quote Black Adder...it started badly...tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end the better.
From a business perspective I'm actually incredibly interested to watch how the next 5 years play out for Disney. They're about to complete implode from self inflicted wounds and I'm here for it.
I dont think that's gonna happen. Maybe it will, but na it won't. disney is one of those companies that can't fail no matter how many shits they can bring out of their arses
@@ronel7836 it almost went bankrupt in the early 90s and the little mermaid and Lion king basically saved them. That's why I said it will be interesting to watch, because it's a pretty sticky situation and will take some major moves to right the ship.
@@cliverosfield69, Why? What purpose does it serve to prop up an entity if it continues to uniformly produce films and series which are, in the main, popularly rejected and don't earn a profit? If the contention is it's for the propagation of disseminating a steady state of indoctrination into whatever malign cabal you may happen to be fixated on, how effective can such propaganda truly be if it's not being watched (repeatedly, at that) by a very large proportion of the pop culture viewing audience?
"GO. AWAY. NOW." The absolute fury. And I am 100% on board. It's like they know these ideas are going to bomb, and they decide they're going to just do it anyway for the sheer spite of destroying the legacy of the films.
Let this video get all the recognition it needs. Because in the end "GO AWAY NOW!" Tells you everything of how god-awful of a studio Lucasfilm is these days.
I feel confident in saying that KK has for many years held a grudge if not a hatred of being relegated to working "under" Lucas and Spielberg. Only someone consumed by envy of both their talent and success in the industry would put such effort in destroying their legacy. Only someone with her narcissism would think they could supplant their legacy with her own in such a ham-handed fashion. For her this all wasn't so much ideological zealotry as it was a more fundamentally base, a personal vendetta. Perhaps Spielberg's snub could be due to him coming to a similar conclusion.
Let's set the record straight. There was no snub on KK by Spielberg. Stop listening to RU-vid idiots who are pushing for clicks and views. We all know the main players for Indy are Spielberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. KK was the coffee runner girl on the first indy set and married into her producing role. She walked on the coattails of great creatives before her to get to where she is at and nothing more. Why would Spielberg ever consider giving her praise for anything creative? Because a RU-vid idiot said that she was snubbed in a speech? I must have missed where she created the Indy character by herself or acted out the part or wrote an entire script or directed a film or produced a musical theme for a whole film....actually I've read where she did input her ideas from time to time to Spielberg, all of which were tossed aside because they were terrible ideas.
@@dansanfrisco Oh you are spot on correct about her irrelevancy to the creation of the franchise. Spielberg very likely did not have that as his intent. But it was obvious to anyone watching that SHE felt snubbed. Such is her ego. She's all clapping and smiling until Williams is announced, and her husband tries to pull her off the stage. So the so called idiot has a better take on Hollywood egos than you in my estimation.
@@marbellaotaiza801 That wouldn't surprise me. After all he idiotically decided it would be "disrespectful" to put English subtitles on his remake of "West Side Story". The point is KK felt snubbed. Not that Spielberg intended to snub.
Amazing. They gave Indiana Jones the Luke Skywalker treatment. After they saw how that went down, the horrific backlash, they really thought "yeah, let's do that again!". W A T
If at first political correctness does not succeed, try, try, try, try and so forth.. again.. The mentality is to utilize a form of propaganda; destruction is inevitable and money is easy to obtain.
Why are you comparing a broken Jedi to a professional archeologist? Indiana Jones didn't die or completely lose himself in the fucking fifth movie in the similar vain as Luke Skywalker in Star Wars The Last Jedi! What a load of Nazi propaganda I'm truly witnessing here!!
I would have liked to see Short Round (Ke Huy Quan) carry on the franchise, I thought it would have been the next natural step after he won an Oscar. He has experience with stunts and fight choreography, they could have made something more grounded but also action packed, something that could have had a chance at being interesting.
The sad part is that Hollywood, despite their obsession with "mah diversitay" doesn't have faith an an Asian male lead in an iconic and celebrated franchise, even though Short Round is an iconic character himself. Sorry, but that's the cold, hard truth.
It's almost hilarious how current content creators in Disney underestimates their audience. Being a fan of something means that when you are a kid, your classmates are mocking you from the first class for not playing football with them and instead heading to a comics shop, library or just home to read and watch and play with action figures. Than you are a teenager and instead of trying to look cool and be the most popular a-hole wearing the latest fashion and listening to crappy music in a hope of attracting the most wanted exemplars of opposite sex you stand your ground, your moral principles and keeping your authenticity following your own dreams and sticking to what you always loved. And than you are an adult and all your surroundings is trying to drag you down to the bland greyness of what they think is normal and appropriate for a grown person. And you as a fan still stand tall, sticking to what you always loved and not giving a damn about what is proper, normal and expected. So basically being a fan means for the whole life you walk against the wind and staying upright while everything around you is trying to bend you to their own image and projection. Fans are hardened people who never lost their compass and never gave up their inner child. And to those people, hardened by facing a constant opposition and used to stand their ground no matter what, their are trying to inject their mindless propaganda and force a political views of people who probably never had to face a single real life peril and their world view is formed by reading a social media of their friends. Good luck with that, Disney!
As @TheCriticaIDrikner once said: . If there’s a silver lining to this shit-storm, it's that the scale of Kennedy's incompetence only underscores the superiority of all the movies she tried so hard to bury and upstage. Working with less money, more primitive technology and fewer resources, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg achieved something she'll never ever equal - a legacy to be proud of.
The sad thing is that in her social circle she as well has achieved something praised and held in high regard… destroying landmark franchises of male identification.
Did all of you forget all the movies she executive produced that you people claim as better than this? She was responsible for the first three films. You remember that, right?
I like how his, "Go away now!" had some true anger in it. You could feel how sick and tired he is of people at these studios ruining what was once great IPs.
4:30 this is the second major review that I've seen get this wrong. The movie makes it clear that there are only two possible locations of Archimedes's tomb: Sicily or Greece. The boat is headed in the direction of Sicily, so of course Voller knows Indy is headed to Syracuse.
At 8 min, regarding the kid being able to fly, when we are first introduced to him in the film, he's learning how to fly from a pilot. They are sitting at a table, and the pilot is explaining to the kid on what he needs to do, while the kid is using random items to look like airplane controls. Im not saying it's in any way realistic and believable, I'm just explaining as to why she asks him if he can fly the plane. She knows he has been practicing on how to fly planes.
Kathleen Kennedy is like a little child playing with it's father's train collection. It doesn't know what it has, and it throws it in the corner when it's finished playing.
A cruel and bratty child, at that. When her father tries to teach her about the trains, she spits on him, insists she knows better, and breaks parts to spite him.
You could tell by the drinker’s final words that he was really feeling sad and pissed about the outcome of this movie. And who wouldn’t? How could movies be made in such an awful way given that such an amazing foundation had been laid in place 40 years ago? Sad, so sad!
@@sydneyirishblues And in your case, you don't, by chance, happen to be a woke leftist? If you are, what exactly do you think your sociopolitical biases are really all about & good for?
I would really like to see a comparison of how this movie treats "old age" or deconstructing legacy characters with Logan, which was brutal with Wolverine and Dr.X, turning their defining traits against them, dreams crushed and looking only to hide away until death. yet they didn't mock the characters
You are correct and Harrison Ford admitted most of the time he didn’t know if it was before he was shot, or after so he didn’t know if he should act like he was hurt!!!!!!
My wife and I just watched this movie today. It gave me gas and was dreadful to watch. I didn’t get any of the feeling that I got from the original film. Great review man, spot on.
Jesus christ, the broken male hero again? Imagine what top gun 2 would've been like if Disney was making it? Though I doubt Tom Cruise would allow himself to be humiliated like that also.
probably be in a zimmer frame and the made up inserted daughter of his old flame from the first movie would magickly be 10x better than him in the cockpit I reckon
Wouldn't you rather see a Top Gun 2 in which Maverick isn't the hero super-pilot that we remember, but rather gaslit into thinking he's a washed up never-was, upstaged in fighter aviation by an obese African American lesbian with a fade haircut, that's somehow an immediately better & flawless pilot, even though she's never flown any plane before in her life?
It sucks because 15 years ago they treated Indiana Jones right. I know a lot of people hate Crystal Skull but atleast Indie was still kicking ass as an old guy and wasn’t a broken man who was miserable to watch.
This movie is yet another example of JRR Tolkien's quote to be true.... “Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
For the past few years, the evil ones have been insisting that they are tearing it all down so that they can "build back better". The world isn't better.
Literary/Artistic Necromancy, the idea of re-embodying the message of the original writer or creator with intent to pervert/distort/re-imagine their original work.
Today i managed to finaly watch this film ... and basically it was way better then i expected it to be ,even final sequence was kinda hearthwarming. Maybe my expectations were too low after drinker rant about it
I liked it, way better than the drinker said, the "strong female character" wasn't actually that bad and she didn't realy feel like a replacement for indy.
God, if only Kennedy would. Right now it seems like she won't until 2025 at the earliest when she fails to deliver the three Star Wars films she promised at Celebration and Iger finally calls her onto the carpet.
The great thing about the drinker is that he is not one of these newbie youtubers who shout GO WOKE GO BROKE at the top of their lungs and expect to be regarded as serious film critics. The Drinker is a student of film, understands filmmaking, is familiar with the history of Hollywood and is able to express his ideas in a humorous but succinct and comprehensible manner.
@@drbryant23 Yeah, behind this persona of "The Drinker" there are a lot of well constructed reasonings, the character works for entertaining purposes and making some jokes, but those are the ones that keep you hooked
As a Greek, I found it very hard to understand the so called ancient greek dialogues at the end of the movie, between Archimedes and Indi. I was studying ancient greek back in school and I can ensure you that the phrases they use are in modern greek language. OK Indi has the american accent but I was expecting Archimedes to speak somehow close to the greek accent, but it was a no. Btw I have seen many times the Antikythera mechanism into the National Museum of Athens.
2 things stood out in this video for me. First was when the Drinker said 'How is it possible for the film company to hate their own characters'. And the next thing was at the end he mentions how 'they' are not creators. I had a flash back to the first Jurassic Park and Ian Malcom's speech at the dinner table, where he says about they didn't learn the knowledge for themselves and stood on the shoulders of giants who came before them'. I think that pretty sums up the people who have since gone on to destroy these IP's.
@@ermpson5799 Exactly, Kennedy was a producer on the original Jurassic Park. I'm sure she did as little as possible or the original Jurassic Park would have been a flop and a complete waste of our time and money. Just like everything else Kennedy does... As to what Agelmar101 is saying: Kennedy has stood on the shoulders of genius for quite some time now. And everything Kennedy touches turns to trash. The real creatives are no longer there to give her guidance, babysit this inept person and it really shows... Just like The Drinker stated, LucasFilm has been bankrupted by inept ilk named Kennedy,
She still gets paid tho...is she worth a billion? Then again, almost anybody famous for being famous or a grifter or hanging out with the right crowd is wealthy these days.
I hate the message given in all these films that fuck up their heroes with age, it is like no matter how much you lived your life to its fullest potential and done the best you could, you will always end up being sad, embarrasing, and pathetic as soon as you get old. I can guess that growing old does suck and all sorts, but there must be a way to embrace old age with dignity and peace. I would love to see our heroes do this for once. But I guess they do our heroes and even remarkable villians a better favor by killing them these days.
Phoebe Waller bridges character was NEVER afraid for her life even in crazy situations and that just takes any believability out of it for me-in the early Indiana Jones movies even indie was afraid at points even though he’s a bad ass
this is a good point. indy was a hero because he was vulnerable and we always saw him get away by the skin of his teeth. this movie (i haven't seen it) like everything disney/marvel/lucas seems to do now, is the superhero-ization of all narrative. there's no human-ness, no vulnerability, no flaws, in any female characters. they're always supposed to be perfect. it's so sideways.
@@racheldeschaineWell he's not a modern 'marvel' superhero but he is a 'pulp' superhero. A different genre, where wits, combat skills and probably a gun were usually enough, such as The Saint, The Phantom and so on.
I say for most of us The Indiana Jones franchise ended in The Last Crusade. When he rode to the sunset with Sallah, Marcus, and his father Henry Jones Sr. The Crystal Skull, And the Dial of Destiny are non canon to the amazing trilogy.
That's what I go to see in my adventure films, the crippling realism surrounding old age and loneliness. Yeah he's older and slower but a balance for it could have been found when it came to the stunts and fight scenes but no we have to have him broken, weakened and sad. They could have had him retiring on a high as a success but sad because he thinks his adventure days are behind him which would have been better than what we got. Yay! Give the audience hell Indy!
I was shocked to find that it had a positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Then I saw that the Crystal Skull was given 80%+, and realised it's time to stop even considering their opinions. That was a truly dreadful film.
I found your review more entertaining than the movie itself. Particular highlights being your use of "s**t sandwich" and "Cornish pasty". 😊 I thought 'Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull' was alright, 75/25 for the writing, but after watching I.J.D.O.D. and in hindsight I think the I.J. movies should have just remained a trilogy. That would've been a far greater legacy for the character. "Always leave them wanting more".
By all accounts, they had private screenings that were so bad, they went into emergency reshooting and re-editing to make new plot lines and replace what they had originally planned. And that's why the movie is a jarring crazy-quilt of unrelated scenes, cobbled together at the last minute - because that's exactly what happened. The rumor was that they originally filmed it so that Rey Skywalker II uses the "Dial of Ret-conning" to go back in time and replace Indiana Jones with herself in ALL of his adventures. Showing her finding the Ark, saving the Temple Idols, recovering the Holy Grail and even the Crystal Skull - a literal ret-conning of the entire franchise so they could erase Harrison Ford completely, and have Kathleen Kennedy's latest Mary Sue take over. But the screenings were so awful and so hated that they were forced to dump all that on the editing room floor. So an embittered Kennedy ended the movie with Rey II punching Indy out, and dragging him back to his life and marriage by the scruff of his neck like a little kid who didn't want to eat his vegetables. BOO, Disney. BOO.
Not only that. The original ending involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became Ms. Retcon, and with the machine gun went to kill all the nazis in the multiverse, and to collect every relic that Indiana discovered, plus the mummy of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, the triangle of Light, the Golden Cat from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines...
@@marbellaotaiza801 That is truly some bizarre shit. But, for Hollywood as a whole, there was always perception of an arrogant 'cult' at the higher ranks...but now it seems that the arrogance, self-importance, and politics has separated them from the rest of the world and what these legacy movies meant to us originally. Let them implode so we can put all of this out of its misery.
Man! The ire, indignant sentiment and rancor that Drinker felt for this movie was truly palpable in that review. I mean, we’re not just talking an act for humor’s sale, Drinker truly sounded irate and livid over the whole experience. When he said “that’s it”, I had to concur. However, this isn’t just about destroying George Lucas’s legacy. It’s about destroying everything we’re love. That is the objective of KK and those like her. They won’t stop until they’ve desecrated everything we care about. To be perfectly honest, there isn’t much left for them to destroy at this point. Star Wars, Indy, Marvel, Bond, Lord of the Rings, Ghostbusters, etc. The list goes on and on. What haven’t they touched yet?
Warhammer. Although even there, they try to subject it to their whims. The problem is that the fanbase is very protective if not rabid and the hobby is very niche, denying them a permanent foothold
In order to control people you have to destroy their hope for better things to come, and an effective way to destroy that is to destroy their icons and heroes only to replace them with an inferior substitute. The ultimate aim is to create a demoralized, ground-down population that gives up on everything. People in that condition are easier to manipulate and brainwash into believing anything.
