I once drove a Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL throughout the bush in Kruger National Park, South Afrika. I drove through dried up fine sand river beds, typical shitty eroded roads and through a herd of elephants on the way from the East Gate to Ulusaba. When I arrived my gray car was as sienna red as the ground, the staff asked me where I came from? Acted like only a Range Rover or Land Rover could have made it. It's the " driver " not the "vehicle". 4WD is just an insurance policy to get you out of where your 2WD took you and got you stuck.
The bakkie version is going to be longer and needs to be. Apart from the height, the current version is almost exactly the size of a Kia Sorento, so smaller than you think. Smaller engine and cheaper? Bakkie? Get a Ford Ranger or Toyota Hi-Lux. The Grenadier will never be made to compete in that crowded market.
I think Ineos needs an. `Grenadier Trophy' , like Camel Trophy did for landrover. . If they are serious about the longevity of the name, give it a kick start?
In the 1940s/50s/60s/70s, the old Defender was obviously the far and away best off-road vehicle that could be used on road(but was heavily compromised). It's like a track racing single seater that can be driven on road(with only one seat and no boot). Radcliffe thinks people want less on road capability but hasn't demonstrated how his offer is really more capable than existing options. It has to be head and shoulders above other off road vehicles like the Japanese, German, US or British options. It isn't. They don't even pretend that it is. So what's the point of it? Just another option? forget it.
@@TheIgnitionTVchannel Does not look like it will make it as an option to the states. Though all the final features on the US delivery cars will drop on 5/16 - so far looks like it is only an option in Australia and Africa. Sad as it fits the car perfectly.
Reliability comes with intent and understanding user base. Meaning if you have issues, you learn and make changes to the vehicle. Something Ineos have done well and need to be on top of moving forward. This was the formula for companies like Toyota, their current generation products are no way near reliable because they have moved away from listening to their user base, especially in thr 4x4 market.
Certainly. But the only way to answer the reliability question is for folks to use the vehicle and look at it over time. With that said, looking at the components chosen for the build...Ineos choose proven, top notch manufacturers for each major component. Speaks well for the expected reliability.
Some other factors in favor reliability are that Magna designed it [G Wagon manufacturer] and it’s being built by former Mercedes employees at a former and renovated Mercedes assembly plant. Factors against reliability is the fact that all the great parts need to work together seamlessly. Even traditional OEMS have challenges in the first year of production.
Overpriced here in Australia sadly, great idea but not as good in right hand drive as left funnily enough and so close in price to Toyota, that I’d just buy one of them and utilise the ginormous aftermarket parts bin that supports the brand, not to mention the infrastructure that Toyota has.
That's a pretty shallow view, don't you think? The only reason Toyota has such a great after market parts availability, is that they have been around awhile. Do you think that robust aftermarket was there on day one? As the Grenadier gets out there more, the after market will follow. Even now, in the infancy of this vehicle, after market shops are turning out options... it will only get better with time
Toyotas 300 series is 140-150k and had moved even further away from its offroad heritage. The fact it has a hot vee set up and is already plauged by dpf issues is a sign that they have rushed the design and made poor decisions. Infrastructure will grow over time, but everyone starts somewhere, can't ignore the overall value and quality of the product. People in Australia are paying 95k for a prado, so that should sum things up.
@@mrbaaghi1189 the GXL isn’t that expensive. Whilst my view is that the 300 is the best Prado they ever made, I’d still be happy with it for what I do. I’m just really not impressed with the pricing, that could have been the great differentiator but it isn’t and that is all down to greed.
