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@173muppet
@173muppet 14 дней назад
If they push sweeping ship changes like this live, they absolutely must give tech restoration kits out for free.
@ZynzeNycraile
@ZynzeNycraile 14 дней назад
Last AA strategy update they give restoration
@173muppet
@173muppet 14 дней назад
@@ZynzeNycraile I vaguely remember that. Do you remember how many they gave each account?
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
@@173muppet think it was 5
@yournamewhats1195
@yournamewhats1195 14 дней назад
There are two big problems with this test environment. ・One of those problems is the nerf of a powerful destroyer. ・The other problem is that the CP of the corvette mothership has increased. The latter issue is that due to the relatively increased CP efficiency of aircraft carriers as carriers for corvettes and fighters, it is expected that builds that use CVs and Cruxes in the main fleet and whales as reinforcements will become dominant. This can be a factor that excludes complete beginners and casual players from the game. And the element of nerfing of the best destroyers and frigates means that beginners and casual gamers have even less of a way to compete against seasoned players. I understand that the developers are probably concerned about the power of the combination of Auxiliary ships and corvettes in airstrike tactics. Destroyers and frigates certainly made many cruisers useless. I also understand that. I am not opposed to strengthening cruisers. However, in order for beginners and casual gamers to stand up to more experienced players, destroyers and frigates need to be able to compete to some degree against fully enhanced super capital ships. The issue with Corvette airstrikes should be resolved by changing the way airstrikes work or by changing the way Auxiliary Ships work. Developers and veteran players should not bother newbies and casual gamers with this issue.
@kevinalmaguer8337
@kevinalmaguer8337 13 дней назад
Most accurate critic I've seen
@Phage-
@Phage- 12 дней назад
Precisely my point, though you worded it better. It’s already miserable past P1, I finally have gotten my taurus, xeno and carilion special. This is my main and arguably strongest fleet that I can use to at least try and defend myself form whales/ veterans. If they actually go through with the cp changes to those then I don’t think I’ll still be playing. They should at least buff other frigates and destroyers to take their place. I don’t mind a meta shift that much, I can work with that. But I need options.
@one_bad_mofo8658
@one_bad_mofo8658 14 дней назад
The Taurus nerf is HEARTBREAKING! I dont have alot of ships, i have 0 bombers but i have the CV3K and Whale, but the Taurus was always my bread and butter ship. I just got the Eris HC full bp last season so my dmg fleet just got a massive include but not my Taurus! Ugh!
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
Taurus is over nerfed I feel needs to be brought back down a notch to 10CP. It has the same damage as the HC eris and worst tank so makes no sense that it costs more.
@curtisdean5568
@curtisdean5568 9 дней назад
loving the io changes as I've been unlucky with the variants, these videos are great, please keep them coming :)
@ifluxion
@ifluxion 14 дней назад
If SW was around 80 CP, then it would've kinda made sense. You can only run 3 of them without Field Command Center, and you can only run all 5 until the Field Command Center is fully upgraded. So these mega swarm fleet would only appear after mid-server where people have fully upgraded the Field Command Center. CV3k could sit around 65 CP. That's what they could do to prevent whales from having too much strength relatively early on in the server, crushing relatively weaker orgs into being unable to develop their bases at all and have to surrender very early on.
@CalebDiT
@CalebDiT 14 дней назад
I kind of appreciate the carrier CP increases. I think NE has accidentally(?) made aircraft too powerful, _at least_ as long as AA performs in its typical, strange way of not actually being AA. It's as if they've modelled the aircraft-AA relationship on the US invasion of Iraq.
@tonyhan3806
@tonyhan3806 12 дней назад
The IO change is not overtune, due to the main weapon mechanism (immeditely reload after a miss), it got heavilly countered by evasion ships like Eris and Carilion Evasion. It takes 8 IO 7 mins to go through 10 carilion but it only takes Chimera 3 mins. We have also tested in Pilot server that 8 maxed IO can barelly win against 8 maxed Chimeras. IO is a major counter to the current CAS Spear meta but can definitely be countered.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 12 дней назад
I missed Io b type also got buffed and that heavily counters evasion ships. Either way Io is certainly overturned it is the best heavy damage dealer now out pacing the callisto heavy torp which was the best damage dealer before, if it wasnt overtuned it should be on par with the cally B. In my testing Io so far Io was performing exceedingly well with a dull fleet support as per usual and running the predator tactical in fleet to buff hit rate on them as I usually do made for quite a serious damage increase against evasion front lines.
@Cali_MD
@Cali_MD 14 дней назад
I like most of these changes. The full gold swarm fleets were successfully 1v4 mixed level fleets. It felt like there is no counter without paying heavily to fully upgrade some Cv3k or solar whales. My full AA gold fleets still melted immediately.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
there was some very heavy cottners to them. My full gold hybrid fleet melts them as an example. Thing with swarm is it heavily relies on specific bombers and fighters etc to deal its damage, once it loses them they have 0 damage output and will get melted by things like hybrid fleet.
@173muppet
@173muppet 14 дней назад
The Solar Whale CP nerf doesnt affect fleets but its worth noting that it does affect port capacity. So if anything we should see 5 SW reinforce fleets comint into the phase later than usual.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
I don't know if that really matters. its 50 CP taken up in the overall fleet which is only what 5 HC Eris now as an example. I generally have about 100 CP free all the time as well end game anyway for just incase I need a quick siege fleet or something.
@HoffyWraith
@HoffyWraith 14 дней назад
I feel like too many people complained about cloud dwellers. This completely nerfs those in the clouds that have to rely on dessie carriers to field any air to stand up to the whales in their server. Im a whale, but i still love the versatility and speed of my dessie fleets. This pretty much forces everyone to stay out of clouds and only play cruiser+ which still benefits whales as those that spend more money still likely have more tp in their ships that matter rather than a f2p that probably has v2 destroyers. I think they should leave all CP costs alone, and just buff cruisers and up to make the wallet warriors happy.
@STARFOXtheblack
@STARFOXtheblack 14 дней назад
Ive gotten my it up to 32k anti ship with everything maxed..love my ioz
@tonyhan3806
@tonyhan3806 12 дней назад
Oh, also I'm pretty sure they buffed Calisto B, they reduced the cooldown of the weapon from 28 to 20, got around 25% base damage increase.
@marmol-ki4cx
@marmol-ki4cx 14 дней назад
If the Changes in the test server goes to the live server, it means fleet composition early on will change with less ships as its higher cost. Untill you Invest in the Base upgrade to have more CP, which I never used as I use base CPx2 in my Fleet comps.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
I'm not so sure might just see a swing from using things like taurus to Quoaor more or one of the other decent damage dealers.
@tonyhan3806
@tonyhan3806 12 дней назад
Eris and Taurus is also not the same, the reason that we normally see Eris and Taurus dealing the same amount of damage is because we have alwasy been using destoryer frontlines. It is clear that they have nerfed all energy weapon in Destoryer/Frigate so you can't build an effective Frigate/Destoryer line up against cruiser frontline now.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 12 дней назад
They both fill the same role, front row off tank. You are correct, a lot of the changes heavily favours a heavier fleet composition meta
@iuriibakach481
@iuriibakach481 14 дней назад
sounds cool. aldabra is the way to go now. overall will be interesting to see how fleets will change. I suppose now it will be minimal vettes and max fighters. perhaps we will see something but mistrals
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
Yeah I think at 10 CP the Eris HC is still very viable though. But Aldabra is going to be a great ship for that tank and spank roll, Things like Torp Quoaor will have a chance to shine too.
@VienrizzLabog
@VienrizzLabog 14 дней назад
absolute popcorn
@JoshuaH225
@JoshuaH225 14 дней назад
Between all the various CP nerfs, I wonder what effect it will have on port space. Might also throttle production number early on.
@JARINO88
@JARINO88 14 дней назад
nice 😂
@VladMcCain
@VladMcCain 14 дней назад
Ouch on the cp increases. Even with them being reinforcement, its going to gimp your max fleet
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
you still get 2 Main fleets out, And with subfleets being a thing and not taking CP now its not really a issue.
@kennyutoob
@kennyutoob 14 дней назад
I wondered why my Callistos were suddenoly hitting 25k in the test server lol! Thought I built them wrong 😂
@freedombird7426
@freedombird7426 14 дней назад
Taurus does pure Energy Damage and there aren't many ships that have high energy resistance under Cruiser classes. Like yeah there's the Aldabra in Data servers, it gets the Exclusive tech that raises it's energy resistance by 20% Seems to me they're going to try and push people to use Larger ships now. Callisto went from 32s Cooldown all the way down to 24s Cv3k and Crux were both always 40 CP. Hopefully Cv3k gets raised a little since it has the extra Corvette dock bringing it up to 6 Corvettes. At least a +5 CP cost.
@eric3d2b
@eric3d2b 14 дней назад
Whale change is a nerf to Angulum
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
ohhh I didn't think about angulum at all to be honest. That is a very valid point!
@nightmareking8385
@nightmareking8385 13 дней назад
Now I usuallly don't like damage increases but for the Io I am actually glad, it came from mediocre damage to the best for cruisers. For it being front row and with much less hp than then other damage dealers like callisto or hc chimera with around 120k hp at max while it has 88k they are actually right to give it tons of damage potential. Cc b though no, back row, same evasion as Io, more hp I think around 120k too but less armor and energy resistance. Even with its hit rate problem agaist small this thing will do just a little less damage than Io against big. Also es should get a buff for its main ion cannon, Io outdamages it.
@kennyutoob
@kennyutoob 14 дней назад
Lol these are some radical changes 😅 I actually don't mind too much because it shows the devs are really thinking deeply about what they want this game to be. Bear in mind that DPM doesn't always translate of course. And so long as some of the most extreme moves are unwound a little bit, I think I'll be quite comfortable. Plus the CP nerfs are great imo. Anything that levels is good.
@andreacaramaschi9056
@andreacaramaschi9056 14 дней назад
I think the massive damage buffs are to go against immortals, did the chimera get any changes?
@runeg987
@runeg987 12 дней назад
Funny with the Jaeger name. I thought it was from the German word for 'hunter': 'Jäger'. If you write it out so English speakers can pronounce it, you would spell 'Jaeger'
@illchangethisifican7952
@illchangethisifican7952 14 дней назад
They gave the Ios 2 more damage ticks per shot, and the callisto had a duration and cooldown reduction of 25%, seeing as you were unsure
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
its 2 more for the A and B type and 4 more for the siege, also a slight duration reduction.
@illchangethisifican7952
@illchangethisifican7952 14 дней назад
@@Damphyre well that sounds terrifying
@andreacaramaschi9056
@andreacaramaschi9056 14 дней назад
Did any other hidden stat get changed? Like base hitrate or evasion?
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
Didn't notice anything. But I'm trying to get a definite list of changes off the devs as I may have missed something.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 14 дней назад
Ouch some of these nerfs are going to hurt but at least the Eternal got some love, it was a glass cannon that lacked the cannon for the longest time.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
unfortunately I did confirm it is only the plasma caster it has in its M2 slot that got some love.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 13 дней назад
@Damphyre Well it's better than nothing I suppose, I can hope to finally get the M2 eventually and find a reason to field the ES
@chinbosschinboss2484
@chinbosschinboss2484 14 дней назад
Yay
@midsarp
@midsarp 13 дней назад
maybe i'll play again. miss my guys
@kevinalmaguer8337
@kevinalmaguer8337 14 дней назад
Vettes will suffer a lot too
@Witty-jn2yk
@Witty-jn2yk 14 дней назад
Is there a change log to see all the changes?
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
unfortunately not yet. I had to dig through some Chinese posts to find it and translate it...
@ssgcummines4984
@ssgcummines4984 14 дней назад
With Taurus, Heavy Cannon Eris, Ruby Io nerfs, hard io and chaos buffs… Carilion Special might make a big comeback?
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
Carillion B type is HEAVILY countered with Io B type, which I made a mistake did actually also recieve a buff and lands around 37k DPM... So no still no carillion XD
@ifluxion
@ifluxion 14 дней назад
Interesting that Jaeger is now 22 CP and AC721 is 12 CP. It used to be the case that Jaeger was 4.5 cp/corv, while AC721 is 4 cp/corv. So there was some CP cost effectiveness difference in having that extra buffing ability of Jaeger over AC721. Now this is reversed. It would be 5.5 cp/corv in Jaeger and 6 cp/corv in AC721. That means there's absolutely zero reason to use AC721 over Jaeger.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
Yeah and since crux doesn't change that's 6.6CP per vette (plus some fighters) and brings a large weapon into the fleet that does decent damage. Makes the in fleet crux more viable now.
@kennyutoob
@kennyutoob 13 дней назад
Dunno about zero reason, but Jaegers are definitely more preferable now. Still can't use them in the fog, though, and they're quite expensive to replace while ACs are as cheap as chips.
@ravenfx1625
@ravenfx1625 14 дней назад
Taurus 12 cp, io 18… Sure-trow it away:( Just some random buffs/nerfs puts on table!
@Ifyoureadyouaregae
@Ifyoureadyouaregae 7 дней назад
We definitely need free reset of tp
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 7 дней назад
They gave us some last massive balance patch
@fixryvick8533
@fixryvick8533 14 дней назад
I tried to download it 1.9 GB, but can't log in, is it a bug?
@bacon761
@bacon761 14 дней назад
reinstall
@kennyutoob
@kennyutoob 13 дней назад
1. Clear cache reinstall 2. If dl link doesn't work open browser history and find the link IL tried to open 3. Refresh - link should open independently 4. Pause DL occasionally if necessary 5. Make sure you've got more than enough space on your device
@queenofkingdomofsleepy8309
@queenofkingdomofsleepy8309 14 дней назад
22:42 CV3K is always 40cp
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
I swear it was 35 at one point!
@queenofkingdomofsleepy8309
@queenofkingdomofsleepy8309 13 дней назад
@@Damphyre I played the thing for 2 years and never heard it got a cp nerf even it got nerfed, it's still sitting in the reinforcements
@VienrizzLabog
@VienrizzLabog 14 дней назад
12:35 Minecraft
@kennyutoob
@kennyutoob 14 дней назад
He's trolling at this point 😂
@lucasmoleda5213
@lucasmoleda5213 14 дней назад
Es simple, ahora se obsesionaron que usemos la sub flota y las naves auxiliares 😂. Si 🤔 tienes alguien que te muestre la mejora en la tormenta eterna 😀 te lo agradecería mucho, la abandone por el Constantino y me a resultado rentable pero estaria bueno ver alguna referencia.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
So CTG does about 80k DPM at the moment maxed. ES with max plasma and all its other damage weapons and modules it sits at 75k DPM. So it is still a little worse than CTG and CTG also has a bug that makes it overperform at the moment.
@lucasmoleda5213
@lucasmoleda5213 13 дней назад
@@Damphyre 👍gracias. La verdad no sabía, 😀.
@kennyutoob
@kennyutoob 14 дней назад
Cv3k was 40
@steelblood4116
@steelblood4116 13 дней назад
I quit the game awhile back. Occasionally been thinking about maybe giving it another try. But with these CP increases? Nah lol. I really don't like a lot of the updates they've been pushing.
@BowToMe-fk1ym
@BowToMe-fk1ym 14 дней назад
frigates are not supposed to be as much cp as a destroyer
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
no you're correct they should nerf the damage on them instead as Xeno,Ruby etc has destroyer levels of damage.
@kokiklv
@kokiklv 14 дней назад
Quaoar not getting nerfed? mkay Also, not the first time, but Light Cone does not have MineCraft system. 12:35
@kennyutoob
@kennyutoob 14 дней назад
You lot obviously don't understand us English. The more you mention it, the more he'll do it 🤣
@kokiklv
@kokiklv 14 дней назад
@@kennyutoob First time around, about 2 years ago, it wasn't intentional. Judging from your coment, I guess he meant it, tho it didn't look like it.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
@@kennyutoob shhh don't give away my free comment strategy XD
@TheDainiti
@TheDainiti 14 дней назад
What if reinforce would have some cap at CP like only 110 or 120 CP for reinforce, like you could place 5 cruisers but only 2 at max solar whales, it will be some healthy nerf to reinforce meta
@davec69us
@davec69us 14 дней назад
My guess? Too many ships in each server and it's slowing down the game. This nerf was designed to deal with that. Higher CP = smaller fleets = less ships. Everything else is just collateral damage.
@Damphyre
@Damphyre 14 дней назад
I'd agree but its too targetted. Quaoar Torps as an example with no change and can easily keep up with damage dealers like taurus etc. Then only corvette aircraft carriers being targetted, nothing happening to fighters..
@alexsanderefrem6682
@alexsanderefrem6682 13 дней назад
am in ythe server let me know if you need to pummel something
@dopedaddy667
@dopedaddy667 14 дней назад
If they put out a sarvey for pilot server, i hope everybody marks extremely dissatisfied because of the cp increase of any ship. It was nearly perfect 😢
@EarendilStar
@EarendilStar 14 дней назад
Perfect? I have the tarus and Eric HC. I love them. But they FAR out damage anything at 7 or 8 cp. I don’t consider that perfect. Now, was it raised too much? Gonna have to test to know.
@user-he9rn7yi2o
@user-he9rn7yi2o 14 дней назад
Is this confirmed?
@Angelina-San
@Angelina-San 13 дней назад
As a F2P this just makes me leave the game and play Candy Crush
@ironheartbannerlord2815
@ironheartbannerlord2815 14 дней назад
very bad updated on increasing the CP costs of the popular ships
@paulr4747
@paulr4747 14 дней назад
It's not okay for free player to make such big changes... it take 10 phases to be able to use a ship minimum and they change the whole meta like it was nothing...
@joachimsmueller
@joachimsmueller 13 дней назад
I HATE the CP increases. Probably will leave the game then.
@erickyantin658
@erickyantin658 14 дней назад
Horrible changes for the most part. The cruiser buffs with the IO and Cona will be something i will be watching closely. Just not sure what the bloody heck the devs are trying to do here. What's their end game.
@iuriibakach481
@iuriibakach481 14 дней назад
yes, all hamsters like you will definitely delete the game and it will die. booooo
@ZynzeNycraile
@ZynzeNycraile 14 дней назад
Just play a offline game. No update needed😂😂😂
@justinapps3047
@justinapps3047 14 дней назад
This game is going downhill 😒 nothing to favor younger players 😒only good thing was base io
@DrakeRazgriz
@DrakeRazgriz 5 дней назад
Yes and no it's mainly a nerf against older players and the state of the meta
@justinapps3047
@justinapps3047 3 дня назад
@DrakeRazgriz not really the majority affected ships are base variants older players have luxury just use other ships
@MTalyn
@MTalyn 12 дней назад
Worst update ever
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