Lol Anthony I think you’ve got it all wrong. Led Zeppelin is the one who ripped off Greta Van Fleet. Not the other way around. It’s ok, we all slip up sometimes
@@pascualsandoval6592 zeppelin conquered the world ,they were beautiful , REAL Musicians with one of the best vocalist of all times,you are just an envy loser like the ones that can't bear the GVF enormous success,you are dead sandoval,now return to listen to your crap,idiot
I used to do that but with rap battles instead of jokes at lunch and I got caught once. I could have walked right up to embarrasment and give it a hug the feeling was that real that day
It's interesting because my little brother's favorite band right now is GVF. He had literally never heard of LED Zeppelin until after falling in love with the first GVF album. Now he listens to both bands
@@benjamingiddens6758 Weird that it turned out that way since Zep is pretty much always one of the first bands people try when they try getting into rock, like AC/DC, Queen and Nirvana. I'm not quite sure how that happened with your bro
GVF literally wears Led Zeppelin costumes on stage and tries to mimic Zep's body language. Literally just watch one live performance of GVF and pay attention to how the guitarist does the exact same poses as Jimmy Page, and how the singer does the exact same hand thing (y'all know what I mean) Robert Plant does when he sings, and then say they're not ripoffs.
so what??? rather than (c)rap slternative deathspeedemonumetal I would prefer to listen (and spend LOTS of money)on hundreds of clones of the band from the 60 70 and 80's!!!! That was REAL music
I swear when I heard Greta's radio song (the one with the hook like "YOOO HOOO" or whatever) I legitimately thought it was some Zep song I'd never heard before. Maybe the DJ was playing a deep cut or something. But then I heard him say it was Greta afterwards and it blew my mind. I immediately thought "how were they signed?". I think Fantwan was justified in his review. But hey that's me, I don't know shit about anything.
Whatsbinteresting from my perspective is that GVF is currently my little brother's favorite band. He had never even heard about Led Zeppelin until after he fell in love with the first GVF album. Now he listens to both
I would like them to be even more zeppelin sounding since on the last album they are not,I also would like hundreds of new bands sounding like the bands of the 60 70 and 80 since THAT was the BEST period for modern music,fuck alternative the clash "modern" (read FAKE) rock etc...
They probably got signed because they sound similar to Zeppelin and other forms of classic rock, so their label probably thought they could successfully sell records by addressing a currently underserved genre. You don't have to lose your shit about it.
If Greta had put actual Zeppelin covers on their album and owned the cover band label, they'd probably get a lot less shit from critics. But they're young and naive, and I suspect they'll find their own sound eventually.
difference is lz was hated because they sound different from the music critics were used to back then, they weren't open minded as today. while gvf gets shitted on for basically being lz .2. only good lz ripoff band is probably triumph
Guys and gals, I said the lyrics are like Rush, not sound. And mostly I meant the more fantasy elements. Like mentioning the sun, and the moon, rivers, frolicking through meadows. In terms of the Zeppelin stuff, I can't stand the "mama" stuff. I have a hard time imagining these kids actually calling a girl mama in 2018
I think the Gretta guys might be from the same cloning facility the “rapper” Kid Buu is from. Look for any strange markings on them. Keep asking questions
This applies to visual art so much too. Artists of all kinds whether they be illustrators, fine artists, graphic designers, etc. have to deal with this very same issue and I think your words resonate in those fields as well. I wish more people would talk about these things in the visual arts, but I’m glad at least there’s a logical video such as this to dispel the difference of influence vs rip off.
I think a strong difference is that in fine arts, you learn very quickly to be good or be good at it - meaning that if you're going to appropriate a style, you need to make a twist on it very fast to not get labeled a hack or just know your influences and subvert them to make your own kinda style. I know that's exactly what Melon's saying, but I think it's a bit more prominent in the art world where people have 0 qualms about calling out rip-offs. Then again... Jeff Koonz is a millionaire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Right, each genre of art has their own subset of rules about what’s appropriate and what’s not when it comes to being influenced and straight up ripping off. In anime you could say that the vast majority of these artists rip each other off, but it’s not an issue, in fact it’s indubitably supported by its community. But then there’s like a weird nuance to it all where each anime artist has a _slight_ variation on the anime style and you need to be well versed in the aesthetics to even notice it. Even then I think it’s rare that any anime fan would care that much if someone was ripping another artist off because the design philosophy behind it completely supports that sort of thing. If anything it’s more seen as being influenced and they separate styles, usually by era since each artist in that genre tends to follow the design trend of the time. In fine art it’s a hard thing to tackle because it covers so much ground, but for the most part you really do have to have a solid reason to be copping another artist’s style especially because people with be adamant about throwing you off your pedestal. In fine art and illustration artists are more seen as brands, entrepreneurs, or even “inventors” (I think they’d like to see themselves as that anyway). So if you fuck with their marketability then there’s a price to pay for it. But they act that it’s more about having integrity to be your own person and do your own thing. There’s truth to that, but in both those fields often times artists can get away with ripping off certain artists especially if they’re from the distant past. Kind of hypocritical in my opinion tho..so it’s only ok if the artist are dead? But really it just supports my other point..it’s more about marketability. The dead artist have nothing to support so it’s “ok” to steal from them because they’re not gonna go after you, they’re dead after all. People will see it more as an “homage”, but it’s sort of like intellectual grave robbing seeing as how the former is perceived as so much worse. They act like it’s about having genuinely interesting ideas they really care more about how long their careers are gonna last. Having truly unique ideas is just a perk I think.. it’s not really the sole basis of why they do things even tho the profess that it is. But I digress, that’s more of a rant on my part. I’m definitely of the camp that really appreciates when artists find their own path, but I totally don’t mind seeing influences in their work either. Just think artists need to be honest with themselves as well as try to push their ideas into interesting places, because it benefits everyone at the end of the day.
Vampire weekend and Paul Simon are a prime example of heavy influence done well. They took what Simon was doing and ran with it to a point where it feels more like an inventive sequel than a remake
The great Robert Plant called GVF "Led Zeppelin 1", in a good way. But when Robert mentioned that GVF says "(our) biggest influence is Aerosmith", he rolled his eyes, coughed then smiled. 😂😎
I hadn't listened to GVF until just now. It's like Gus Van Sant's remake of "Psycho": just because you _can_ mimic someone else's art, doesn't mean consumers should care. It's marketable because the original already established the hype and expectations. GVF is clearly talented, why not put your _own_ spin on something instead?
The members of greta van fleet seem like the kind of people who were locked in an attic as kids by torturous parents, only had old rock records to play with, and were only given plates of hamburger helper through a crack in the wall as to avoid contamination from outside music sources.
THEY HAVE BEEN PREVENTED TO BE POLLUTED FROM (C)RAP (S)HIT HOP ALTERNATIVE AND OTHER FAKE MUIC NONSENSE ,YOU HAVE THE DUMB TORTUROUS MINDS PIECE OF SHIT
LOL! Ever been to Frankenmuth? It is the least Rock n' Roll place on earth. No wonder the little dwarf Josh looks like a hobbit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8isgfHclHHA.html
@@margix1172 you're in middle school aren't you? The last time I heard the whole (c)rap joke was 15 years ago from the emo kids who sat by the handball court, yet never played handball.
Agree with this, I think there's valuable stuff to be said about having an identity, but at the end of the day, your reason for making a certain kind of music doesn't have to be any more complicated than ''Yeah I like it''
Actually getting kind of annoyed with the fanboys of GVF reacting so incredulously. Do they really not hear how identical they sound to LZ? The instrumentation is blatant enough, the singing though... come on man. COME ON.
Sounded like self titled with modern production imo, not a bad thing I just hope if they're planning a return to their roots they do something interesting with it
Greta Van Fleet is the Ready Player One of music when it comes to nostalgia. “I know that thing from the past and I am a walking encyclopedia on it, look at how cool I am for knowing that”.
All of their videos’ comment section is stupid. Save music industry? More like “Hi, I am either a very attention-seeking 16 year old/below or an old man who thinks every other music genre fucking sucks and only rock and roll can be in the industry.” This is why Pop vs Metal war begun in the first place back in early 2000s till now; close minded elitists. This band? They didn’t save anything. They’re just recycling the old work, and tweaking a bit on their own. They’re just a cover band without covers. There are other rock bands who are unique and have fresh and new sound, if anything those bands are the one that deserves to be called as the “savior of rock”.
anthony,david lee roth was right when used to say that the critics that did not like them were all nerds that listened and looked like elvis costello,you are as ugly as costello,but more dumb and less talented than him
Though I do agree with the whole similarity between Zep and GVF, being a fan of both bands I can distinguish which one is which. They are starting to distinguish their own sound and as Fantano stated; most bands wear their influences on their sleeve before they develop. Give this band a chance!
I love hearing the influence in an artist when they bring their own fresh vibe to the table as well. It helps me feel connected, since I feel like, "Hey, this band I like also likes this other band that I like!"
I can’t lie, I actually do like Greta Van Fleet. I don’t feel so good about their last album, but their debut album is pretty solid in my opinion and I can listen to it in its entirety and enjoy it. However, I think all the criticism they receive is pretty warranted. From the interviews I’ve seen, they seem like guys who love music, but they’re so wrapped up in an era they couldn’t experience that probably died out for a reason. I mean they have to be doing something right though, 70’s and 80’s hard rock was never appealing to me (punk and emo are more my speed) and they sure did catch my attention.
I don't fucking care who they sound like...if you enjoy their music then that's all that really matters. It will be up the them to decide what direction they will go and how successful they will be.
If GVF had a different vocalist they would sound nothing like Led Zeppelin. They’d sound like a 70s era bar band playing their own compositions. The singer has the voice he has, and I like it. Sometimes he sounds like Plant, Sometimes a little like Geddy, Sometimes like Jones, and I guess sometimes like himself. Yes, they capitalize on these influences, but they generally drive me to the influences. I listen to Greta on line, I spend the day listening to LZ. People complain about the lack of musicianship, and how they suck compared to LZ, but LZ were seasoned musicians already. Page already famous, and at one time a sought after sessions player/studio musician, so they were on a whole ‘another level , even by today’s standards. I don’t know that GVF can change, or should, because the kids listening to them don’t necessarily make the LZ connection...and older listeners like the LZ connection. Win win for them. I hope they make millions. They’re neither a clone band, or a tribute band, nor are they original. They are however a bunch of kids chasing a dream, and I can’t knock them for that.
"The album’s most representative cut is “How Many More Times.” Here a jazzy introduction gives way to a driving (albeit monotonous) guitar-dominated background for Plant’s strained and unconvincing shouting (he may be as foppish as Rod Stewart, but he’s nowhere near so exciting, especially in the higher registers)" -Rolling Stone 1969
Compare an band inspired by led zeppelin to greta van fleet and you really see the difference. Inspiration still requires creativity to stand out while greta van fleet does nothing to be creative. It's like comparing kevin hart to Amy schumer
It's ok to steal. You just gotta morph it into your own unique way of doing it, and not steal too much. Noel Gallagher stole a lot for Oasis, including straight up stealing the riff for "Bang a Gong." The difference is that he used that riff to make an entire new song unique to him, and played it in a different way in a different key. GVF doesn't change up the stuff they steal whatsoever.
What you said about some of the greatest rappers ever starting out wearing influences on their sleeve and coming into their own is so true. Kendrick Lamar’s first mixtapes had such a Lil Wayne influence it’s crazy. Kendrick also made To Pimp a Butterfly and GKMC within three years of each other.
Wolfmother is never going to fade completely. In my personal opinion their last album was pretty good. But regardless of that, their debut album was so strong with hits like "Joker and the Thief" and "Woman." Those tracks are basically embedded within the generation (mine) that grew up with that music. They'll probably just be remembered as one hit wonders tbh but those songs will be karaoke favorites a few decades from now. They're not going anywhere.
What did you think of Temples first album? I dont know of a specific band they sounded like but they did just adopt the 60s sound. I liked it but felt weird about it
While the Jamband scene may not be for everyone that is where some of the most innovative music comes from in my my opinion. Some of my favorite Jambands include Umphrey's McGee, Phish and Electric Octopus.
Can u do a review on the Struts? They're influenced by Queen but i wanna know whether or not if they sound too similar to Queen that it became a rip-off.
As a musician most everything I do is a product of my influences. When making music just make sure you are not influenced by Marvin Gaye. His family does not mess around. They make you PAY. That being said, I mostly agree with you on GVF, but in the end it is just rock-n-roll. Rock was not made to be heavily analyzed. Sometimes all a song has to do is make me tap my foot and get into a groove, so there is that.
I mean yeah, GvF sounds like Led Zep but if you can't tell the difference between the two bands that's on you. I find it laughable that people say these bands sound exactly alike...
Well, Anthony, after so many logical arguments you said, it's difficult to argue with you. However, I always believe in people. I will keep my eye on the boys from GVF. They will certainly change for the good. You can see it by comparing their EP "From The Fires" (I own that one and I don't regret anything) and their latest LP. I am really curious what will they become. We just have to keep the criticism constructive and do not get emotional like their music insults our mothers. I cheer on the boys, because they have a dream. And like W. Disney said, if you can dream it, you can do it (Yeah, cringe, I know).
I like Greta Van Fleet. You don't have to, but if your main reason for disliking a band is because they sound like another band, I personally think you may need to leave the house more often.
@@pazuzu6589 No I get that, and that's why I didn't attack him or his criticism directly, but that's honestly how I feel. If your main criticism is that a band sounds like another band then you may as well never listen to music ever again because music is inherently derivative.
This. Intact they claim they are influenced by Aerosmith. I am beyond angry about this cheap dog shit Zeppelin rip off and how they have managed the comparisons in the media. If they owned it it would be ok, but they would tell you they have never heard of led Zeppelin. Makes me sick. What a shit band.
They have but the thing is that they’ve always been told they’re exactly like Led Zeppelin. They shy away from it because they don’t wanna be Led Zeppelin no matter how much they sound like them. There’s videos where they talk about their influences and someone will say “Led Zeppelin” and they honestly say they were a Heavy Influence
I honestly feel like they've begun departing from the Zep sound. If you look into it, the songs that sound the most heavily influenced were written years ago, and the newer songs are the ones that have really resonated with the fans. They're still really young, and I think that by the time their next album comes out they'll have really found their sound while out there touring
Sha Na Na were great. For a band in the late 60s to already be making tongue in cheek parodies of 50s "at the hop" culture is kind of amazing, they were pretty ahead of their time. Granted I probably only ever heard about them because of being a Hendrix fan, but they deserve their place in history.
rather than liste to a single second of the garbage fake music called shitnot I would listen for the eternity ALL the cover bands of this world,fuck you and your shitty tastes of "music"
quentin childs shitnot and gvf shouldn't even be in the same sentence...shitnot is pure diarrhea...gvf is pure chocolate..fuck deathspeedemonumetal REAL ROCK RULES
They have a lot of time to change. They fell into a trap of everyone telling them they sound like Zeppelin so they just went with it. I guess that’s fine because after all we are talking about them... so they have their name out there, they could now easily change their sound
Would you consider the death metal band Gruesome a cover band without the covers? Since inception it's been a nod to Death (formed after a Death To All tour, the first album is dedicated to Chuck Shuldiner, and music draws heavily from early death metal bands from the late 80s / early 90s), but some metal dudes I know think Gruesome sounds more like early Bolt Thrower or Massacre.
Think my issue with GVF is not that they "rip-off" Zeppelin, is that the songs are just flat out bad. Take for example The Young Veins formed by ex members of Panic At The Disco, that album has HEAVILY influenced/ripping off The Kinks but those songs were actually quite catchy and enjoyable. If you're gonna make a song that influences/rip-offs a sound from yesteryear, at least make it good.
Interpol are an interesting case for influences, the band set out listening to def leppard, and Paul Banks is more into hip hop than rock music yet his music is reminiscent of a noughties post punk
FREDDIE GIBBS x CURREN$Y x THE ALCHEMIST - Fetti EP. REVIEW IT PLEASE? It's only 23 mins long @ 9 tracks and dropped on Halloween. I'm curious to see how you like or hate it.