The biggest problem with Em’s new music is that every track I hear it seems like he’s desperately trying to prove he’s the most lyrical rapper ever. Em is literally a legend and if he just sat back, rapped on some genuinely good beats, and ditched his nervous-sounding, choppy flows. He would make so much more respect if he didn’t sound like he was constantly trying to prove himself.
I would genuinely agree with everything you said as far as that revival album goes but other than that I can see him relaxing, sitting back, rappin on good beats and literally just enjoying the whole thing of making music in multiple other tracks!!! but yeah, overall I absolutely agree with the things you said, REALLY GOOD POINT.
I believe he was really frustrated with the new rap song being the same choppy flow, and he wanted to prove that a rap song doesn't need a good "beat" and sounded good to be a great rap song.
@@music_dron6233bro a double entendre isn’t that great . The main key factor to a good rap song , A decent flow , a good cadence , some substance in lyrics and last but not least an enjoyable beat in the back ground . Em has NONE of that . He has some sentimental songs and those are great but his stupid annoying double entendres ain’t it I’m sorry . Bro is the mos overrated artist of ALL time .
@@bvbarmy7499 That’s all he does? Darkness, So Far…, You Gon’ Learn, Groundhog Day, Fall, Venom, Killshot, Space Bound, Cinderella Man, Cold Wind Blows, Talkin’ 2 Myself, Book Of Rhymes, Vegas, Rhyme or Reason, Survival, Legacy, Brainless, Love Game, Desperation, SHADYXV, Fine Line, Guts Over Fear, The Hills (Remix), Walk On Water, Framed, Castle, Arose, Normal, The Adventures Of Moon Man and Slim Shady, Guns Blazing, Zeus, Little Engine, Farewell, No Regrets, Jimmy, Brian and Mike, and Gospel would like a word with you. You haters are just as bad as Stans. It’s clear as day you never listen.
This might actually be his next record. He’s starting to become a bit more personal in his music, ditching a lot of his fun stuff. It would be cool if this was his next record
@@natashag4577 as an eminem fan he definitely is really self aware of the music he makes. He knew from the beginning kamikaze was a response album. But he is too self conscious about himself and gives in to making music that pleases his fans because he seems to want to please his fans so much. This is what tyler the creator was talking about when he said that he is doing music that his fans want and not what he wants. That’s the issue with his self consciousness, he is too self conscious to the point where he is doing music the fans want which is basically “be more like mmlp” or “keep rapping fast cuz it’s cool.” It would be cool if he actually did those things cuz he wanted to and not doing it sounding like he’s saying “are you pleased yet” cuz it’s what his fans want.
I always say that Eminem still has at least one really good album in him. It just seems like he has no real direction, or anyone telling him things don’t sound good. It’s just odd how he has literally anything he wants at his disposal, any feature, any producers, everything basically. But we keep getting dumb pop songs, and cringe lyrics constantly. Grew up loving him, but I hope things change. Cause it’s been bad this last decade lol.
Dude's life isn't the same as it was when he wrote all his best stuff. You get older, more comfortable, and then what do you have left to write about? It'd be really weird to bring out an album as a 50 year old with that young angst and it'd be weird of him to switch it up completely and drop something totally different. Sad to say but he probably doesn't have another great album in him.
@@Noooiiiissseee I didn’t say he needed to go back to what he used to do. Simply that he should be able to make better music. He doesn’t need to try to revert back to what he used to be to do that. And he has everything at his disposal to make something better than what we’ve been given. That all I’m saying. What he’s putting out should be better. Doesn’t have to be overly profound, or anything. Stopping with the pop records you don’t need, and stopping the cringe rap lines would be a start.
@@Noooiiiissseee *I didn’t say he needed to go back to what he used to do. Simply to just make better music. And I’m not a rapper. That’s his job to do lol.
@@NoirNameless If it's so easy you'd be able to do it. Obviously you know as well as I do that it isn't as simple as just "make better music". That's an insanely stupid thing to say.
It's pretty depressing how Eminem continues to go on with his edgy, combative persona that is resistant to change or maturity aside from a few small hints here and there in some tracks from almost 2 decades ago. He's stuck in a time warp and almost everyone that isn't an oldhead or edgy 15 year old has completely stopped taking him seriously (coming from someone who at 15 was edgy, an oldhead, and listened to a bunch of Em). It really is the ultimate definition of the "old man yells at cloud" meme.
It really comes out like he is fighting against nothing, he was probaly excited as hell when MGK did that disstrack cus he could finally act like everyone hate him and it wasnt just some cornball who wanted attention. I think Tyler the Creator said it the best, "hes just too good at rapping which is just disgusting at this point, like we get it bro you are fast"
@@Satire_Filmz honestly, if his career stopped there, he would be in the GOAT conversation. I still wouldn't see it like that, but his last 3 albums are so bad they drag drown the whole discography
@@maxiamarilla5020 Yeah. MTBMB is far too long and gets tiring. Revival is trash. Kamikaze is too short and inconsistent. But I’ll always say that Encore is his worst album. That album was a mistake
@@Satire_FilmzNOTHING is as bad as revival. Not even albums in other discographies. Content-wise, revival is just basically UNLISTENABLE, front to back and god is it long. Encore at least has two enjoyable tracks, plus he was at the height of his game at the time, plus he was SUPER on drugs and grieving. Revival, he was stone-sober coming off a five year hiatus. That was literally all him, in top form at that time, and nothing encapsulates the depressing truth about late career em as that.
Eminem could literally say "Pee pee poo poo fart" in a song and his fans would write a paragraph how it's actually a deep lyric that analyzes the divisive socioeconomic structure of America or some nonsense.
@@SecondCitySavior6969this comment section is proof to the exact opposite. his stans are fighting for their lives defending his most indefensible work down here 💀
Nah. He was funny. He made music that white kids like me made laugh and opened up rap to a new demographic. Now he takes himself too serious. That’s really all there is to it. You don’t need to struggle to make good music and his “struggle” was never a pillar of gis storytelling, unless you count mtv not playing his music lol.
I literally just explained this to someone lmao. People are like "I want old Em." That mf don't exist anymore. That's why I love Kamikaze so much. It sounds like he embraced his new self on that album.
@@airiest He gave it E tier in his Eminem Tier List Video. He only talked about one song which was “Like Toy Soldiers”; you could have a very interesting discussion about the motive behind this song but he brushes it off as “Tedious”, he’s very lucky this is a 20 minute tier list video and not an hour long video where he has to explain himself. Anyways the rest of the album he just says has bad hooks (tf?) and weird flows.
I have to come back to this video to remind myself im not crazy due to the backlash i get from all the Em cock riders when i express this exact opinion
at the end of the day everyone listens to what they like. I find some rappers really impossible to listen to, you're entitled to your opinion. I like eminem, but I don't think anyone loves all of his songs, just like with any other artist.
Im not even the type of guy to say this, but having Music to be Murdered by over To Pimp A Butterfly gotta be racist. Ain't no fucking way somebody decided to both give that album a 9.1 but have it over anything Kendrick made...
I feel like Eminem has just ran out of things to rap about lol, that’s why a lot of his rhymes are strange and a stretch. Like he has no beef anymore other than the game but he just ignored him lol😂he speaks to his mother occasionally and it seems like Kim is out the picture. And due to times changing he’s tried to move with the times and stay recent with his newer albums but he’s just failed at doing so, each new album has a couple of good songs each but it’s kinda expected. He can’t rap about anything he used to rap about because he’s done it all already. Revival was a failed comeback, kamikaze was a retaliation to all the revival hate, and mtbmb 1 and 2 just exist 😂I love em 100% but he’s trying to hard
All the people saying he is older and that's why he's not as good, I call bullshit. Look at other rappers around his age, Aesop Rock, El-P, Killer Mike, Nas, Lupe Fiasco, Billy Woods, etc. Em just never evolved his style, or tried to switch it up. I despise the age argument in rap and music in general. In other mediums like writing and film older artists are still going strong, even painting and classical skew towards older artists creating their masterworks. Leonard Cohen and David Bowie also had immense late life albums. The whole trope of the rap game being a young man's game needs to fuck off. We are reaching a point where many rap fans are in the middle stages of their lives, and wanna hear more diverse lyrical content and musical inspirations to match where they're at. I just look at Eminem as a grown edgy kid who never realized it was time to transition into a new phase that outgrows his old work. Music To Be Murdered By could have been a dope concept if it embodied dark stories about different serial killers or something, got into their mindstates, and tried to convey some sort of character portraits. Idk man, some artists keep a strong vision for their art throughout life, and others don't. I unfortunately feel like Eminem falls into the latter these days, and I would love to see him hit a stride similar to Nas.
Most are agreeing with the take you have. I haven't seen many people say that he's bad because he's old. People are saying exactly what you're saying - He's bad because he hasn't evolved and matured his content as he's aged like other rappers such as Nas, Lupe, Black Thought etc. He's still trying to rap like he's 25, and no one wants to hear that. People will listen to 25 year old rappers of they want to hear that. Rap is still a young man's game. It's just that everyone has their space and subgenres now. It's just that the young men are in the trap space now. That's their space. Older rappers tend to be in the lyrical space now. That's primarily their space. There's room for everyone. There's still spaces that comprise each demographic primarily, but everyone has their space and subgenre to flourish now, which is great.
Wtf do you mean. His style has changed so much over the years. MTBMB was a great album. Really only one song on the album I'm not a fan of but everything else was good. If anything the issue with the album is how not every song accomposes the name of the album. Like for example those kinds nights. I enjoy the song but it doesn't fit the album.
Never evolved his style? Every time he does something different. Everybody shits on it. It’s the fans fault honestly. So he does some shit knowing it’ll work. Repetitive take on the planet albums because people called recovery cringe and revival trash. Which, it was. Though the point being when Eminem branches of the “fuck you” subject matter. It’s never given the time of day. Again. Fans and critics alike are at fault for it
@@myjciskate4y'all can keep saying that while he's constantly jumping back and forth between being the #1 or #2 most streamed rapper on all music platforms lmao
i had to go pull up that BET eminem freestyle again because i genuinely though that the awfully hot coffee pot clip in this vid was an edit. nope. thats actually how it starts 💀
@@RickyWatter32 for me it was finding JID and through him J. Cole, EARTHGANG, and dreamville at large I've always found it hard to branch out but always loved rap, finding these guys has been a blessing for me to see some real talent, JID gonna change the game in like 3 years on god
Its actually hilarious how Em got better technically but had fucking nothing to say, so now all of his songs are just these mashes of syllables that are impressive but meaningless. He's the rap equivalent of a guitar player doing tons of sweep arpeggios and scales with no songcraft.
because even after all the dogshit on that album theres still 5 tracks that are decent to amazing, with 3 of those being locked as some of best songs em has ever released
I've recently delved into Eminem's music and I can confirm that the man was just better 20 years ago. I don't love every song on The Eminem Show or MMLP, but each one at least has its own personality. Imo what made him popular was his flare for songwriting, his catchy ass hooks, and how dynamic his delivery was. I can handle a corny line here and there, I think rap fans can get a little too hung up on that, but his songs seem to be severely lacking in structure these days, and his vocals just don't have any character behind them. I hope he moves past this "super quickfast rap" phase and focuses on the actual process of creating cohesive songs. That isn't to say I don't like some of his new stuff, but there is absolutely a noticeable difference in quality.
spot on. rap god, although a solid song by itself was the beginning of the end. he never moved on. rap god after rap god after rap god. boring beats and same old summa lumma dumma lumma. impressive writing? sure. fun to listen to? no.
@@adamdunne6645I have, and they are just bad. He’s saying nothing impactful or memorable. When he was coming up his subject matter wasn’t much better but his songs at least where cool at the time.. but hey I was 15 then so it might of been trash then aswell lol
A sole reason as to why I like Relapse so much is that his vocals actually have character compared to most of his LPs. It’s most certainly an acquired taste and it’s not for everyone, but I would much rather listen to him in a goofy accent than in his angrier or monotone deliveries
He needs to let a producer like an Alchemist come in, shit he has Dre that can mixed like no other. He needs to go back to the beginning go back to where you grew up interact with the people get grounded. I met he would put out a great album.
It's frustrating listening to Em now. Because when he just straight up raps on solid production without gimics and takes himself relatively seriously it's decent. But that is one track in every 40 these days
Maybe a Mandela effect thing but when that song came out, I could have sworn the little melody on "they ain't gonna know what's hit 'em!" in the chorus was associated with something Spider-Man related before but I've never been able to find proof. Does anyone have any ideas or am I crazy?
I was an extremely dedicated Eminem fan up until about 2015. I was very confused by Relapse and Recovery because I couldn't tell if he really got off drugs or not. I think he's still on drugs.
Loved his stuff when I was growing up, mmlp2 was the last good one in my book, shadyXV had like, a few good tracks in it, but even then going back and relistening to those older albums aren't what I thought they where I think I was just a kid back then I'm starting to understand that I don't actually think em was all that good to begin with, like nowadays I've been bumping dreamville and putting em next to people like JID, cole, and EARTHGANG just really makes me feel like he was just white and therefore advertisable I'm glad he got me into rap, but I'm also glad I moved past him
