Initial Impressions of the Floatwheel ADV Pro! 

Out of the box miles above the gt! To me the gt is completely outdated compared to adv and diy vesc, it's outperformed in every category of torque, range and speed. Like u said, Tony is wholeheartedly backing up his products with replacements and prompt service. Refreshing to support open source and competition. Glad to hear you're enjoying it too!

much love dude! got another vid dropping Wednesday yee

@@MaxxSendLooking forward to checking it out!

@@fixmypev🤙🏻🤙🏻 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Puodxc57Xvg.htmlsi=hLDBUsqxmyltmSKi

at this rate they are history motion now haha. Awesome glad you're liking it too. As long as you don't need 25+mph this first edition low kv motor is a gem! Haven't watched Kyle's vid yet, what didn't he like aside from brittle bumpers?

@@MaxxSend i don’t know, but he seemed almost a bit biased towards fm 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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dude I didn't know you said that too, been saying that for some time now. It may have been from you😄Fm is so far behind now, gt is completely outdated to me. Practically any vesc with a battery of 75v or more outperforms a gt in every category: speed, torque, range. The power of open source and right to repair 🦾🫀

@@MaxxSend haha, yeah I first started sayin it when VESC OneWheelin looked like it is definately viable, I've seen the line pop up here n there since lol. The poetry of Future Motion diggin their own grave is 👌🏼👌🏼

hell yea, love rippin with the skaters🤘

My pleasure, appreciate the support! Wait til you see the hill climb comparison.

Much appreciated dude! 🙌🏻

absolutely brotha! appreciate ur support 🤝

I have what seems to be the only working ADV in San Francisco right now. ~300 miles on it and I have certainly ripped all the hills; makes it up the steepest one I know of without issue. Even without feathering at max duty cycle, I can easily pass GTs going up hills and even keep up with the slower EUCs. I haven't even really pushed it to the true limit yet. My average city range (down to safe 65V) is 23 miles. If you can figure out crypto, there is no reason to buy a GT anymore.

@@ky13and3r50nI have a VESC with super flux motor, I am interested to see the comparison. I ride mainly off road so, but San Francisco hills are steep so it’s impressive!!

already filmed and the results surprised me! Which would you think is more powerful?

@@ky13and3r50n you're putting some good miles so far! This thing has the most low-end torque I've felt on a board. Gt is completely archaic and not even relevant anymore lol

@@MaxxSendexpect cannon core be much more powerful! They said 9hp output didn’t they, super flux expected ay 6hp output.

Do you know whether the pros they are sending out now in early September still have that early torquey motor he is describing or did they get a downgrade already?

once you ride any vesc it's hard to go back to fm boards lol FW is the best entry level option for first time vesceteers, glad you're lovin it!

@@DanielBrown-lt3if I imagine the motor has been tuned properly already. You won't get as much crazy low end torque, but it'll still be super nice. Benefit with properly geared motor is that you can reach speeds of 20+mph more efficiently.

where do we get one? i have a gt and xr interested in getting one of these

Did you also order one?

@@Eryktion I have not, Shredville doesn’t have the funds currently.

@@BillyShredder oh shit. Would be great to see an adv shredding in Shredville!

@@Eryktion I think it would be great. I’m sure I’ll find a way to get one eventually.

aside from the plastic, it's solid af! can't get enough of the POP yee

you're gonna love it. anytime I hop on a gt it feels sooo sluggish and underpowered next vid will show hill climb of floatwheel vs diy vesc..

​@@MaxxSendohhhh this is the comments I'm looking for coming from a XR and then a GT currently and wondering what's the next step! Anxious about the brittle situation but I'm confident that can be replaced pretty easily!

This is how continuous motion should be

the thing screams power on everything!

yeeeww

jumping from pint to vesc is gonna be night and day. be prepared to take some time to learn some basic vesc setup and settings here pev.dev. If you have the patience and some diy mentality, you'll never want to ride fm boards afterwards..

@@MaxxSend oh yea like I am looking for something with a more range and tbh outta all my electric boards the onewheel has been my favorite so will definitely look into getting it and will take the time to learn it properly shouldn't take me long tho I'm naturally good at any type of board sports

I have a GT and it’s freakin awesome. Floatwheel is in China and if something goes wrong with your board you’d have to fix it yourself, diy style. It’s sketchy also that they only accept crypto currency. What’s up with that?

@@fazer2747 It's due to trade laws and Future Motion suing anyone with a similar design.... Just another reason not to support them in my opinion. They do not opporate their business in a way that supports the community.

If you are a mellow rider and don't need the highest in performance, a GT is a good way to go. However if there's any issues you'll most likely have to mail in the entire board for the to inspect, and better make sure you don't have any aftermarket parts on there.. Floatwheel has the highest performing specs of a one-wheeled device, fully sends you the parts to repair, and with their tutorial videos it's really not that difficult. Biggest downside is waiting for the parts which takes 30-45 days. But when your FM board goes into the queue it takes around the same time for you to get it back. Floatwheel is responsive and backs up their product 110%.

GT is great for certain riders no doubt. If you have any issues with FW they send you the parts and by following their tutorial vids, it's really not that difficult. If you don't prefer to work on your board you can find a local ow repair shop to help you. They only accept bitcoin cuz FM has always been trying to shut them down in the US. They feel threatened by FW because of their innovation.

I haven't measured that yet, but so far it feels about 1cm wider than xr and similar to gt. Will measure it later tonight. Either way you're gonna get some nice polyurethane wide footpads from tfl and other companies soon I'm sure!

@@MaxxSendthanks :) I was actually thinking about the length from the wheel surface to the tip of the footpad, lengthwise so to speak, kind of looks like the shoes have slightly less space there compared to like the xr+, but it could be the increased width makes it look shorter though - thanks for checking :)

@@AndreSjoberg ah gotcha makes sense. I like to place inside rear of my front foot close to the wheel too so that extra space is nice. no problem, will get back to ya soon

@@MaxxSend Awesome :)

@@AndreSjoberg so very interesting, the FW length from wheel to footpad is 8.75in, vs the xr is 9.75in. Shorter by an inch. Width of fw is 9in, xr is 9.25in. I figured fw would be longer and wider vs xr but not the case. I don't have a gt so can't compare that. Funny I didn't even notice but I think I may now 😆

already filmed some comparison vs superflux.. Haven't tried chair yet but I'm sure I'll be zoomin into the twilight zone

+1 for chair racing test :)

@@MaxxSend eagerly waiting for cannoncore Vs superflux comparison. Still can't decide which one to order for my vesc build.

@@andrzejz8316 you've already got your battery, bms and everything else? And is your main priority motor power?

@@MaxxSend yeah, got functional build 19s build with HC. Looks like I am lacking torque when racing uphill parts. Overheating HC is also sometimes and issue, but both SF and CC should solve that easily. I also wonder what are efficiency differences between the motors.

I dunno the slanted bank thingies 😂

It's how the magnets are physically set up differently in this first gen motor.

@@MaxxSend maybe to some degree but the vesc tool allows you to citrate jts functions to what ever you want

@@MrDmadness try it on the first gen Floatwheel motor and let me know how it goes!

@@MrDmadness just FYI, directly from Tony: "6. First 200 Motors Too Torquey: They are wound to the same configuration as the hypercore, actually. The reason it feels slow compared to the GT is that it uses magnets that are way too high spec. On the GT, you can take one magnet out to measure, it’s around 1750Gs, which means it’s a N30-N35 magnet. The Adv is a N42H magnet, which measures 1929Gs in the center. On top of the higher-grade magnet, this thing is thicker, longer, wider than the hypercore’s magnet. So, the flux is 1.6x hypercore. With this magnet, it comes with great torque, but the magnet also generates massive BEMF. So, it doesn’t run fast without field weakening. Field weakening is basically injecting current into the Q axis to create a magnetic field to fight against the BEMF generated by the motor. So with 80A field weakening, you’ll find the motor can actually spin faster than the GT but sacrifices efficiency at higher speeds. The first batch of motors will be really efficient around 20mph, which is the speed I ride longer distances at. I purposely set it this way so the range is good even with a bigger ass motor. But since you guys like higher speed, it doesn’t hurt me to swap to 135 new design motors. It doesn’t really hurt your torque, though. It just needs 20% more current to generate the same torque as Batch 1 motors. So, expect the ESC to run hotter than the Batch 1 motors. In terms of accelerating performance, the new motor will feel more like a GT, which picks up speed quite fast but with higher torque to keep your nose from scraping."

@@MaxxSend cool, thanks for the info . :)

@theonewheeler What BMS issues? If you are talking about cutouts caused by cells / pack voltage out of range then this is expected and as designed. With BMS on the discharge path you really need to have smart BMS talking to controller to do tiltback, so rider can stop before cutout

sorry bro I'm not the best to answer this. Check out pev.dev for some of these details or hit them up on ig 👊

hell yea I'm a heavier rider at 190lbs myself too, and totally love the extra torque from vesc based boards. every time I step on a gt it's nose dive central lol. keep an eye out for the floatwheel vs superflux hill climb torque test dropping soon..

@MaxxSend hell yeah I can't wait. What do you recommend Maxx 18s 19s or 20s??

@@DSC1320hmm it really depends on what your riding preference is and budget. If you want full torque and speed, then I think 20s 84v p42b is top. If u want top range then 18s 75v 50s cells. Not very familiar with 19s. If you're somewhere in the middle a 20s 84v p42a is a great battery. You really can't go wrong, so much power from all packs!! Check out www.theboardgarage.com/store Btw here's the FW vs superflux hill climb; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Puodxc57Xvg.htmlsi=hLDBUsqxmyltmSKi

floatwheel.com 😄

@MaxxSend I meant like used with out waiting for shipping

@@devinvinson5345 gotcha I was like lol used ones are hard to find right now, seems everyone is loving theirs. try looking on craigslist or fb marketplace. but the price may not be what you're hoping for due to demand, you won't be the only one looking to buy it. better to get new right now, 30-45 days ain't bad and you can be enjoying it sooner than later

not yet, used the preset trick setting

I can't stand cruising pavement, can only last 3 miles lol check out TFL's range test vid

I can do half a kick flip. Someone else has done a full kickflip. But u do a backflip first!!

They have… go check ❤

They just dropped it lol

@@johnnoschese7194 yeah, and they said they have like 4 more already filmed 😆👍

Just now! Great video. Jeff and Bodhi.

Impatient?

I'm disappointed that no buyer has done a 100 to 0 range test on the two boards to help the rest of us compare while we wait.

@@DanielBrown-lt3if TFL just did a vid on that. Looks to be around 24miles with regular battery,~28 with the pro

I'm not the person to test speed lol but supposedly it can go up to ~35mph with the right settings and rider. TFL just did a vid on range.

juat dial 911 already

This is the price FM pays for jacking with the aftermarket

stealing what? floatwheel does not sell a fully assembled board, and is using open source software called vesc. You realize FM stole a lot of TFL's ideas, such as drop top fender, tire design, among many other things? At least FW is paying TFL royalties for the enduro inspired tire.

@@jaefrmbk2k

Fm literally stole their entire design.. try again