INQUISITION: INNOCENCE PROVES NOTHING | Warhammer 40k Lore 

Every Inquisitor has a portrait of Judge Dredd inside a locket they carry around their neck and often ask “WWJDD. What would Judge Dredd do?” whenever they need inspiration

29:50 the "Average Inquisitor orders 3 Exterminatus a day" factiod is actually a statistical error. The average inquisitor orders 0 Exterminatus a day. Inquisitor Kryptman, who lives on his ship and orders 10,000 Exterminatus a day, is an outlier and should not have been counted.

"There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court, a plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty." - Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov

Gaunt once got one of his troopers out of trouble with an Inquisitor, Trooper Milo was accused of being a psyker over a gambling game but was able to prove he was innocent, much to the disappointment of the Inquisitor.

So in the fifth Ciaphas Cain book Duty Calls their is a rogue inquistor that goes bonkers heretical and the friendly inquistor Amberly Vale declares him "Excommunicado Diablos" which would have led to his arrest but they just ended up killing so its possible to excommunicate other inquitors

Bonus about the grey knights for Thousand sons fans: the first grand master of the Grey Knights, Jainus, was a host for a loyalist shard of magnus the red! Also the Grey knights and space wolves like each other about as much as the thousand sons and space wolves. Can really see that Thousand Sons lineage showing through.

Inquisitor: "It took days, but the investigation revealed that none of the accusations against you were true" Citizen: "Oh, thank the Emperor! Does that mean I'm free to go?" Inquisitor: "No" (BLAM!) "You are a heretic for wasting an Inquisitor's time"

The greatest inquisition acolyte interrogator Greg Sergeant, recommend looking this guy up.

A good point to make about the Inquisitors being more normal than we make them is that 40k has a lot of more "normal stuff" in it. There are worlds were people live normal lives, have normal jobs, live in normal living conditions, almost never see war or brutality, etc. This then extends to things like Inquisitors, Guard, Governments, even Xenos. Where there is reasonable, down-to-earth "normal stuff" going on with normal people. We just never hear about those because 40K is about the grim dark, and "normal stuff" isn't exactly of interest.

Something to mention on the “0% of chaos corrupted grey knights”: there is story of a “silver knight” going through all the rings of the realm of slaanesh but once he got to slaanesh (who took the form of a innocent boy) he broke down and became corrupted. Granted, we don’t know if it’s a grey knight but it’s the popular theory (some even theorize it being Draigo)

My favorite "Inquisitor getting dick-slapped by Astartes" lore story is when an Inquisitor got caught snooping around the Flesh Tearers' flagship and discovers their Death Company barracks cells and gets caught by the Flesh Tearer librarian and the result was a mind transfer into a Death Company marine and it turned the Inquisitor into a drooling vegetable. Gabriel Seth: "Kindly inform the Inquisition that their representative was like then when he arrived here"

I had a Dark Heresy campaign that the GM took note of our possible heretical action (Demon summoning , xeno relationships and among other stuff that seemed reasonable at the time). He sent a Evsator Assassin after us when we reached a certain level of "heresy"It matched with the lore so we agreed with his actions.

34:00 I'd like to remind everybody that people turned a semi-pleasent talk between alies, into Robot Ghillie-suit trying to figure out if half-elves are possably conceivable in the 41st millenium...

Sad that the whole “great kerfuffle” between the space wolves and inquisition wasn’t mentioned I feel like it could have been a good example to give about their interactions but Bricky still did a great job with the dark angel analogy can’t wait for more

There is a game called inquisition: Martyr it has some problems as a game, but it's a very good example of what an Inquisitor can get up too. Except the detective part kinda lacking Anyway looking forward to more good work all

A horrible inquisitor that I don't hear being brought up much: the one who screwed over the Celestial Lions. I can't remember his name but he's been abusing his power to destroy a loyal chapter simply because they didn't like him.

Man when Bricky mentioned Helsreach as an option I got so excited, it was my first 40k book! Actually listened to it shortly after listening to the first episode of this podcast😊

I am sure that more inquisitors than just Kryptman were excommunicated. Eisenhorn is clearly excommunicated in the more recent books. I think that was also written more or less directly and if not, the book title "Hereticus" at least gives a very strong hint ;) Oh, and let's not forget Jaq Draco. I think he was excommunicated too?

13:49 "Open and Shut Case. Sprinkle some Chaos on him and lets get out of here"

Grimaldus' description of the Inquisition is perfect in my opinion. "The power of the inquisition is both utterly real and a cunning illusion all at once."

Can't wait for Adeptus Ridiculous to mysteriously go missing

We love you Bricky, Dk and Shy.

I honestly expected Shy to use one of Vader's flying monkeys instead of the actual dark Lord. The Grey Knights apparently also used to have a tabletop thing that let them flat out ignore ALL plasma attacks. I can deal with them being the cream of the crop, but to say that NONE has fallen to chaos.... I don't know about that. Also, there's THAT story when you get to the Grey Knights. It's not at Demon Kielbasa level of WTFIWWY, but it's still pretty fucking tasteless. Deathwatch is easily the most varied "chapter." Also they have that cool layered vault. Yeah, this is part of why unchecked authority is scary. Because even if their peers disown them.... So the radical/puritan split isn't about how extreme in the murder they are, but how flexible. Oh, I'm pretty sure some inquisitors have more zealotry than brains. Their power over the Astartes is often less than inquisitors think. Of the various chapters not to mess with, Space Wolves, dark Angels, and Black Templars are pretty high on the list. The Imperium is their own worst enemy a lot of the time. Even the Judges of Megacity 1 are generally better than Fyodor. Yeah, there are some major threats that the Inquisition may have to be extreme to deal with, but....

A heavy and passionate video, especially at the end where they're both really getting into it.

I wish he mentioned the quote from Eisenhorn when it speaks to the mindset of an inquisitor where in chapter 2 he leaves a woman to die. Gave me chills.

Got an actually for bricky. An inquisitor in a Ciaphas cain book was excumnicated and was given the chance to surrender. But then they died soon after

"It's like baking cookies or cake, and they will bitch but not kill you." Until you arrive with a Quiche

Looking forward to when they go down that Eisenhorn rabbit hole. 4 books + 3 more books + another 3

I want to see more tension with Grey Knights and Word Bearers. I know the fall of Monarchia makes Ultramarines and Word Bearers the rival factions. But id be so cool to see Grey Knights battling Possesed Marines and their exchanges and interactions with eachother.

Inquisitor in the rain sounds like a 40k version of Catcher in the rye.

With your rant against the extreme inquisitors I partly get because Karamazov is a prick and ones dedicated to the imperial cult are mainly actually exclusively reYards and are nothing but a detriment to the imperium. However most are right in what they do they cannot spare everyone or aim to please the crowd because the stakes are far to high like you said but their commitment to a firm and harsh action is what does save lives and allows things to go on. The imperium survives because the harsh actions taken by these people, you can't filter out everyone you can't screen everything you can't dodge every battle hard actions need to be taken because other factions will not extend the hand of mercy. The Tyranids are a straight forward enemy in a lot of ways they only have one ambition whereas chaos is a multi headed Hydra that needs a lot of attention in various areas and you do not have the time for nuance.

Thanks for the grey knight shout guys ! Hopefully these are leading to an episode

Nobody expects The Emperors Most Holy Inquisition!

This episode was a lot of “we’ll talk about that in a later episode” and now I want those episodes

please consider reading Helsreach for the next book club, it's an incredible story and the RU-vid movie version is also a great watch - would make for a perfect read/watch for DK

Same take about Grey Knights: if a jedi in the star wars universe turns to the dark side, are they still considered "Jedi"?

It all, but most of what the imperium does is out of necessity (not all of course). For instance, why is human life worth so little? Because the imperium literally can’t afford not to. There are too many wars to fight. Too many planets that need recolonizing. Why are the mechanicus so worried about invention: particularly because it is so advanced it is hard to understand and messing with it can be bad. Not just in a boom or blue screen sense. An entire ship class was scrapped because it’s layout looked enough like a chaos symbol that tons went rogue and joined chaos. The imperium isn’t a democracy because even in peace time, can you imagine having elections for the high lords, the logistics of that? More planets could probably get away with it, but not entire sectors. While they are heavy handed, the intense ideological purity requirements because things like chaos and gene stealers are that scary, and even sesesionists are still arguably selfishly weakening the imperium against the next ork WWHHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’d say about 80% of what they do is necessary, and 20% is the stuff tacked on or due to corruption, or the flaws in humanity.

"The Astartes might just kill them" *Cue the months of Shame*

Rando guardsman: hey, I know a bit about you guys! Ordo redactus inquisitor: MY MANGO IS TO EMP UP AN ACT LIKE I DONT KNOW NOBODEY A A A A! *mag dumps bolt pistol*

1:09:53 LEEEESSSSSSGGGGOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I"M SO HYPED!!!! THE FIRST HERETIC WAS THE FIRST WARHAMMER BOOK I EVER READ AND IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD, ARGEL TAL IS BEST BOY, WORD BEARERS!!!!!!

DK is always so upbeat and adorable. I just felt like randomly saying that in the comments

No reference to Inquisitor Clousseau, Obiwan Sherlock? Best inquisitor ever.

I think an important thing to remember is that the Imperium is vast in scale, both in size and in the breadth of what life is like within it. For every hive-world where the air is so polluted one breath would give your cancer cancer, there is a world not far different from modern-day earth, where the people live happy, fulfilling lives. The overarching structure of the Imperium is horrible, and their lack of oversight means that individual planets can be full of some heinous shit. But there are simply too many planets for every last one of them to be absolutely screwed over.

Wasn't Eisenhorn excommunicated for a while there? And there's Quixos.

For the Deathwatch, I didn't see the video in full so maybe you mentioned it but sometimes, an Astartes without his chapters heraldry might show up at a Watch Fortress and get in the Watch as a Black Shield, to expiate his/his old chapters sins (never divulging his origine, even to get enrolled).

This episode makes me want to recommend Atlas Infernal, but I gotta mention that the fact that the narrative is non-linear makes it a pretty confusing read.

Dark Angels and the Inquisition really don't like each other and that's an understatement. Can't wait until the Lion and Dark Angels episode. Always makes my day when I hear you all mention Dark Angels in your videos lol

The horrific events that unfold in Anarch fully justify the slogan of the inquisition.

I thought that this was the book club for the book "innocence proves nothing". I liked the book but there were only 2 in the series and it is obvious that there should have been more.

Funny thing about getting a planet, if your from a hive world, worse of worse of worlds, getting a planet might be able to save your gange family, 40 million people going from hell to a nice comfortable planet. Able restart your life and make a new nation, changing everyone's lives for the better, even saving people, all because you found a knife mechain.

Inquisitors have political authority. However, such authority only grants power if it is recognized. Violence is the only authority that is absolute.

Oh so the sword is basically Nightblood

Okay, so, the Grey Knights thing? It's from the same author that made the Ultramarines op as shit. And the one who made the End Times for _Fantasy._

not to spoil for the guys but: The First Heretic shouldn't make anyone LIKE Lorgar. It should make you sad for who and what Lorgar could have been. And it should make you want to spend eternity curb stomping Lorgar and Erebus in the balls

In regards to the Deathwatch recruitment, the service in the Deathwatch is more often temporary for a couple of decades, as it is a good way to spread anti xenos tactics to other chapters.

how much you wanna bet that the inquisition actually just stopped the resurrection of the emperor because they knew if they suceeded they'd have all their powers stripped away? but I think we can still agree that what joel did was absolutely fucking stupid, cause he pretty much doomed one of the last hopes of humanity to recover all for the sake of some dumb girl who'd grow up to be a serial killer anyways

The main difference between a normal inquisitor and a Lord inquisitor is simply political power, Lord inquisitors, like Torquemada Coteas are lords of entire sub-sectors and have their own armies, they can take control of entire Astara Militarum armies in the field and can even push around Astartes Chapters a bit, but they know not to do that, cause inquisitors that fuck with the Astartes tend to disappear, just as the Dark Angels. Also when it comes to internal matters, they tend to have the votes of other inquisitors in their own faction, essentially they're politicians.

Ooo I wonder if they'll cover Garviel Loken and his relation to not only Horus but also the Greyknights

Marines cannot just say they want to join the deathwatch. The Death watch asks the contributing chapters for men to serve a term of service when they need more more and the Chapter masters choose from amongst the veterans of the chapter. The choice the marines get is to just serve a term of service and go back to there chapter or to stay on a permanent secoindment. Some famous Astartes that have served with the DeathWatch. Captain Uriel Ventris of the the Ultramarines when he was a Sergeant. Captain Alessio Cortez of the the Crimson Fists. Captain Batlhasae iof the Dark Angels (when he was a sergeanrt) Chap!ain Orton Cassius of the Ultramarines (later the Ultra Marines Master or Sanctity) Captain Artemis of the Mortifactors. Drenn Red blade of the Soace Wolves Maximillian Voss of the Imperial Fists(the marine who was famously ordered to stop gaining muscle mass because he was getting too swole for his armor)

Inquisitors can't *command* custodes, but they can ask for their help if they have good arguments as to why. Because when push comes to shove, custodes and inquisitors often have the same goals.

Thank you for doing my free time on my job so enjoyable, love you guy

Magnus could have stoud in the golden throne like the emperor malcador was almost dead or dead (not sure anymore) after a couple hoursa

I really recommend reading the eisenhorn novels, really good stuff even though some of the fluff might be a bit out of date

Speaking of gray nights you get to play as Kaldor Drago and get to face off Primarch Mortarian in deamonhunter

I think the issue about defending the Inquisition/Imperium in real life and to whether the Imperium survives because or despite how bad they are is that the Imperium exists in a setting very different from the real world. The Inquisition's extreme religious fanaticism would be inexcusable in our world. Our world also (most likely) does not have the threat of *your vices taking actual physical form and killing billions*. We obviously can't and shouldn't say that it's a positive good that the Imperium is this way, or treat the Imperium as a model to follow in this world, but I do think the nature of the setting changes the rules a bit.

A great story/example of a power mad inquisitor vs an astartes chapter is Months of Shame

Things like: "Innocent until proven guilty" And "Equality under the Law." Go right out the fuckin' window when your meatsuit can be piloted by demons like a flesh-mech.

Triumph of StKatherine bricky. Book club. Sisters. Let’s goooo

Perfect timing just finished The Magos!

Just actually finished listening to the First Heretic, onto Betrayer as we speak!

Rogue Traders are above the Inquisition as well, I believe. They aren't allowed to deal in Chaos stuff, and it's a VERY bad idea to piss off the guy who has a callidus assassin on speed dial, even beneficial to your business dealings, but as is the case with Astartes, the most they can do is make polite requests.

How to become an Inquisitor: 1. Be lucky and become an acolyte 2. Be the voice of reason and murder every other acolyte that starts making stupid things 3. Be the last non stupid acolyte left in the team 4. Profit

My main takeaway is that the Grey Knights have gotten *better* but they still have that blessed odor given by their spiritual liege.

The innocent are guilty. Guilty of inevitability

I really liked this episode

I am quite frankly shocked and disgusted that the Celestial Lions were never referenced during this. Because are the epitome of Inquisitorial overreach.

The daemon inside the Blade Of Antuir wielded by the Purifier Castellan Crowe Of the Grey Knights Is believed it doesn't serve any of the 4 chaos gods. And the sword is too powerful to be destroyed like a normal daemonic weapon so is possible to be something close to a minor chaos god.

Thank you all for fueling my warhammer addiction even though I don’t play the table top

No, the first heretic does not make you like Lorgar more.... Maybe if I do the Italian thing....

Bad ass 1st heretic is good af not as good as betrayer but every thing adb does is great

Kryptman did nothing wrong.

Not to "actually" either of you fine presenters, but the Imperium's behaviour is a lot more understandable if you read "The Mechanicus Does NOT Have The Technology!" by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. Not condonable, mind, but understandable.

Nobody expects the inquisition 😏

gigachads be like

Ironically, the U.S. Supreme Court believes the same thing

Can somebody pls tell me how to buy posters? Orchideight never had any, only dice and few shirts

I'm just like yes the tau and voltan show the imperium is wrong, how? By blatantly breaking the lore that says AI will always turn evil and attempt to kill everything.

I just recently start getting into 40k novels and got hyped when one of the 3 books I've actually read were an option for the book club. Ah well, I just got my copy of Brutal Kunnin so I'm still excited to read it then go back and watch your episode on it.

They Expected us! THEY EXPECTED US!! . . . - A failed Inquisitional Inquiry into the Alpha Legion

"CITIZENS OF THE IMPERIUM! WE ARE HERE TO SAVE YOU!" "Oh Emperor, it's the Holy Inquisition!" "FROM YOURSELVES!" "Oh Emperor, it's the Holy Inquisition."

"Crikey! It's the Inquisitorial rozzers!" - Last words of chaos cultist Jamius Maye

"A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time." - Just about every Inquisitor.

Bricky: "A demon host is a minor deamon inside a host." Me: "MINOR?!" *FLASHBACKS OF CHERUBAEL ONE SHOTING A CHAOS TITAN*

In Vermintide 2 there is a mission where you are going into a city infested by Nergle and skaven. If someone is playing the Witch Hunter when you see a vista of the city covered in rot and infested with demons he says "Whenever you question my methods remember this sight... this smell."

For anyone interested in delving more into this or any topic please consult the inquisition who are really good at asking questions, like “why are you asking questions?” And “exactly how many cyclonic torpedos would it take to stop you asking questions?”

I think the Inquisition didn't kill Kryptman because they knew he was right, unlike most Inquisitors that are "fired". It's not that he was crazy or power hungry, which he was, but that his methods were legitimately too ruthless. If anything, it comes across to me as them trying to wash their hands than an actual moral or ethical problem with him.

The line about "no heart / no brains" is adapted from Winston Churchill who said "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're older, you have no brains." Inquisitor Fyodor Karamozov is a reference to the Dostoevsky novel "The Brothers Karamozov" which has a sub-story inside of it called "The Grand Inquisitor". It's amazing, but preeeeeetty grim.

In Star Trek there are aliens called Cardassians. Their murder mystery stories always end the same: all the suspects are guilty, but guilty of different things. That’s what I think of when I hear “innocence proves nothing”.

My favorite fact about the inquisition is that if the Sisters of Silence find an Alpha level psyker they just go “Become an inquisitor or become throne food”

In fact, being innocent proves just how guilty you are being an enemy of the Imperium - An Inquisitor Probably