Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: CATI 

I was just about to make this comment myself.

So Carrier Pigeons aren't extinct?!

@@Cemi_Mhikku no, the pidgeon is actually part of the exhibition, from the flanders WW1 part.. it is called "speckled jim"

Bird wants a museum tour!

Pigeon waddle is adorable 😻

The vehicle is alive, and is commenting on RU-vid!

So cool. I see you got yours from Belgium and that it was an ammo carrier for the 90mm armed CATI. Makes sense these were paired up. The Chieftain didn't mention the ammo capacity of the 90mm CATI. How many rounds did your carrier hold?

@@donjones4719 in its ww2 6Pdr towing configuration it carried 12 boxes of 6Pdr ammo. That’s 72rounds.

I wonder if the varying segment links were just because they were cannibalized wear sections.

@@loydcarrier2197 That's a lot of ammo!

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belgium had 54 of those CF 100's, the only export of that plane.

The pigeon nailed it🤣

I wonder; did that pigeon pay admission?

​@@jona.scholt4362no, it was paid an appearance fee though

Its badass

as a fellow Belgian, this feels like a Jupiler fueled idea someone tried and then somehow made it into production.

@@Painrunner More like Carapils 😂

We can see a theme developing in the replies that might elucidate upon the listless state of Belgium

But I thought having a nation made up off multiple different cultures and languages thrown together into arbitrary borders and told "you're a nation now" was a great recipe for success, and life was all bountiful and peaceful in Belgium and everything worked fine always?

That particular model of CF-100 featured the same sort of weaponry as the American F-89D Scorpion, Oops all Rockets

Rex's Hanger is deeply alarmed over facing stiff competition.

As a Canadian myself, I find it amusing that we called called the Avro CF-100 the Canuck. It’s akin to the US having an aircraft called the Yank.

@@admiralbeez8143 The CF-100's niickname was the "Clunk" allegedly either a contraction of "Canuck" or the noise made by the nose gear locking up. Kinda reminiscient of the nickname "Thud" applied to the US F-105 Thunderchief. The Scorpion didn't have a generally agreed on nickname, although I have heard it called the Scrap Iron, mostly by people who had to struggle with it's avionics.

Just a cameo, no lines today...lol

Considering ones who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones should a glass tank not shoot rounds? Lol

Belgium: Hold my ridiculously strong beer

Hahaha its funny because you can apply that repetitive joke to almost any situation Yes Hahaha

@@Pyjamarama11 jokes? :Yes

France put 75mm on mopeds with a two stroke. So I guess give them the life time achievement award. It also just straight up had civilian shopping baskets to carry fuel cans. $500 and freely supplied war goods goes straigh to the brain I guess

I imagine it's with the aircraft for a reason

Not really. It only fired a 2 28 kg HE or HEAT-FS at a velocity of 633 meter/second.

Get a bunch of old flack vests and duct tape them in place LOL

Would you prefer a towed gun that you have to hook up to a tractor to move when they start shooting at you? Or an armored vehicle that is expected to move up into the thick of the fighting and be the most conspicuous target on the battlefield? Or just a guy with a rifle who has to get in the front line and can only hide as best as you can for defense? This seems almost ideal to me. You roll up well behind the front, conceal as well as possible, and shoot and enemy positions that have nothing that can reach you to return fire. If someone figures out where you are and starts returns fire with something bigger (ideally that's not easy for them to do because you concealed yourself well), you just start the engine and leave and find a new spot. Barring lucky shots I would say you are better off than most of the other guys actually engaged in combat. If you are actually driving this into the open where they can shoot at you, you are doing it wrong. I've never heard of towed artillery, even AT guns, as being suicide assignments, although AT guns were pretty dangerous posts inherently, and most of the losses come from counter battery fire because it took so long to relocate. And assuming they operate anything like normal artillery, they would have also dug slit trenches and even revetments for protection before engaging the enemy, so if the fire came in too heavy to retreat, you all jump in your trench and will be okay unless you get a direct hit. Your vehicle might get hit, but good chance it won't, is the blast and fragmentation that is most dangerous. Towed guns usually survive much better than their crews, and they don't take enormous losses, even in direct fire roles. It's just artillery on tracks, it doesn't need armor just because it looks a bit like a tank. It isn't meant to do what a tank or even an assault gun does.

​@@justforever96 Yes. Typically the infantry unit you are assigned to would direct you and the rest of the TD's in your battery to the positions they have selected. You would be supported by infantry and if on the defense probably a mine field as well.

A open top gun carrier with a 90mm out the front, can you top it, ngl want it in warthunder so my akecto can have a bröther

@@Rullstolsboken A big brother, even The 25 pdr is an 84 mm, innit?

@@tomppeli. The one in game is using a 95mm although there was a variant with the 6 pounder, a prototype with the 25 pounder and the idea for one with the 32 pounder

@@Rullstolsboken I may or may not have spoken out of my hind end there, I suppose

@@tomppeli. Easy mistake tbh, similar size in calibres and I'm a bit into tanks such as the alecto, tetrach, M22 locust, l3/33, and stuff like that

What's an M603? Google's been less than useful

@@jaspergood2091 Sorry M60A3, I've since corrected it.Thanks

M60A3. Former US main battle tank used up through Vietnam. Now replaced by M1A1 and M1A2 Abram’s. Both very fine panzers.

​​@@RobertEHunt-dv9sq M60s weren't in Vietnam. M60A3TTS came to Europe 1979.

Brits still fire HESH from Challenger 2.

LOL well, to be fair, it is a tank channel not an aviation channel. World of Tanks needs to start a second channel with an aviator named The Saber or The Mig or something.

​@@Wastelandman7000 should be The Sneaky and The Athlete, since in combat aviation most of the time people arguing about stealth vs super maneuverability

I gather he actually is an aircraft buff, he talks about it in some of his Q&A videos. That and trains. But this is an armor channel. Personally I don't think there is a real need to limit it to either, there is a lot of overlap. I know I like both.

IIRC, the CF-100 was also the first straight-wing jet (as opposed to straight-wing rocket aircraft) to break the sound barrier.

Interesting. I can see why the unguided rockets were popular. They're cheap, and give more punch than a solid projectile weapon. .50 cal are wonderful, but, making the other guy go boom is going to be preferable when they are shooting back.

TY- A CF 100 Canuck resides a few km away in my valley CFB museum piece. An in demand NATO night fighter, while day missions were the CF-104 starfighter with no radar , just balls an eyes, and speed...yes I still prefer armor..

@@RedXlV It was, although it did it in a dive from 45,000ft, not in in level flight or at low altittude..

@@Wastelandman7000 Yep, bringing down big, tough nuclear bombers (the Tu-4 B-29 clone was the 'reference' target). The trouble with the rockets was that they were wildly inaccurate, the most notorious exmaple being the 1956 "Battle of Palmdale" in which two F-89s fired over _two hundred_ rockets at an errant F-6F drone and didn't hit it once: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale

"Oi mate!" "Did you you go forgetting the Great Land Downunder, Australia???" 😮 Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

@@markfryer9880 Sincere apologies my antipodean cousin. It was not intentional. This from someone who never misses celebrating ANZAC Day. Something started in the army (Sgt mess) and have never missed a year since. No people have proven to be more loyal allies. When the anglosphere stand united. We are unstoppable.

ahem, that's "chotto matte" matey. And it's not necessarily TOO far; for instance at the moment it is down 4 meters from where I am sitting.

Forgot the obvious F4 - you explaining track tension was too riveting

Preach 🙌🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼

amen

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With a 13 degree gun depression, all you would see is the gun over the ridgeline. Fire twice, watch the T-55 catch fire and then run...

"Shoot and scoot" is a valid tactic for a reason. Because no armored vehicle is invulnerable.

Funny how no one thinks anything about artillery pieces being unarmored, but the moment you put them on tracks suddenly people expect you to also armor them to they can slug it out with tanks. The tracks are only to give mobility. It doesn't need armor.

​@@justforever96just enough to protect against 152 fragments and spall.

I was about to post the same thing. If t isn’t the original track or they bought it with tracks missing or not working then maybe they frankensteined something together with track sections they had to hand.

@@kemikade The Pigeon did try to get a word in....

Overloon have a Cruiser Mk VIII Challenger, that would be an interesting walkaround

No, pigeon recon. The pigeon bombs came later. LOL

Easy. All the ones I haven't seen yet.

You mean a jeep with a M40 recoilless 90mm would have been totally different?

@@2adamast According to people who did see it in action you best got out and stayed back, not so much because of the blast, but because the thing would rock so violently that the access doors might swing and hit you in the face. Shooting when sitting inside was not fun at all so a sensible crew tended to dismount run back in and drive away if necessary.

"Shoot and wait until everything stops moving".

LOL I have to wonder if a 40mm auto-cannon wouldn't work better in this vehicle for this purpose.

​@@Wastelandman7000 40 mm does not the job since mid WW II.