Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: T-13 

No armor; best armor

a 10mm bratwurst

Fragments and rifle rounds from range

Incoming fire (indirect only) Not really armor, more like amr

The best armor is not being seen.

Duel of the Fates

Blasphemy in the church of Semple! Shun the blasphemer!

A weapon to surpass metal gear

@@PotatoeJoe69hahahaha!

In fairness to Bob, his idea was to use his tank like mobile pillboxes against infantry at the time of an invasion of NZ, in the same way as the British developed a range of wacky airfield defence vehicles against paratroop attack.

8:00 lmao sure dude

@@morl1 you can't even speak one language, maybe you should sit this one out sport

In my experience, whether you're in Wallonia or Vlaanderen many, many will speak excellent English.

His English is rather average to our standard. Of course Dutch and French are his main languages, which makes his English more than decent enough.

@@Your3worstn1ghtmar3 Flemish not Dutch

It was way ahead of its time, it already has the anti-drone armor on the top ;)

Those nazty Austrians, stealing our vehicle and then claiming money for it.

That's right! Except the vehicle was traded, not donated.

What a dick move by Austria. In the end, they settled for a trade…. Which is STILL insult to injury.

Yes. It was remarkably similar to the later 7.65x51mm NATO, better known as .308 in the United States. Argentina used 7.65x53mm too, and I think the Turks had rifles in it too, but had to drop it in favor of 8mm Mauser during WWI.

@@kilianortmann9979 Sorry i messed up, you're right.

I own an Argentine Mauser in 7.65x53. It feels basically identical to 7.92 Mauser if I'm being honest.

​@@GR46404 you mean 7.62x51mm for NATO

@@BlackHawkBallistic Yes I do, BlackHawkBallistic! Thank you for the correction. I think I will leave my post unedited so yours will make sense.

Robby is standing on a box...

@@TheChieftainsHatch JFC youre a tall mfer you're like 2 of him

I can't think of any others besides the Valentine Archer. And maybe the US M6 37mm GMC. Maybe getting a good view to the rear was tough? It would have been a good idea for the US M3 75mm GMC, I think.

@@GR46404in 1940 the French built in emergency the Laffly W15 TCC armed with a 47mm m1937 firing rearward.

the answer why those rearfacing solutions were rare lies in the fact that you need considerable free space behind and on both sides of the usually larger guns of SPGs (for crew, ammo and gun traverse). Most platforms only offered enough free space/only allowed a change of space in the very center and towards the back as the front had complex/heavier armor arrangments, a heavy gearbox setup and a fixed driver positions which would conflict with the guns traverse/operation. Very few existing platforms would have allowed for an easy conversion into a rear facing layout and noone really wanted to pay/wait for a new platform development just to get selfpropelled guns into production. And ofc not long into the war protection also gained importance and platforms stopped being equally protected all around, so for an SPG it wouldnt made much sense to add armor/gunshields to the back when your platform already had its best protection on the front.

S-tank famously solved this by having a second, rear-facing driver.

Mostly because that's all you can do with it. It's a lot harder to do things like fire and advance, and your heaviest armor is on the rear. And it's it really all that much of an advantage in the real world? Especially when most tracked vehicles can just about turn around in their own length. They definitely talked about it a fair bit and tried it a few times. And then not long after, they stopped producing gun armed assault guns and TD, so no one has any reason to build one now.

The Germans copied the design of this armoured vehicle to make their own mini tank: the Wiesel 😊

At least he isn't a stupid Ghent

Yes, they will completely revamp it in the next years, so if you just want to see the huge stacks of all sorts of equipement, old fasion musuem style, you should be in a hurry.....

@@annadalassena5460 Definitely, i hate those new-fangled active-experience type museums with hardly any real stuff in them.

The WWII section has already become "Disney Land", the WWI section is still in its old glory though, the WWI artillery collection is perhaps the best in the world with all the captured equipent from the end of WWI in it most still in original paint. A very large collecion going from all sorts of trench mortars and field guns of French, British, German, italian and Austro Hungarian manufacture up to an 1880'ies French 27cm siege gun with all its associated equipment and shells and equipment from German WWI CD very heavy guns (including from 38 cm guns) A great thing, though, is that the impressive 19th century halls, full of dusty old uniforms and flags, which TBH are not that interesting in themselves, will be kept in its original form though, as a sort "Museum about a museum" after public pressure. They also have some premium complete renaissaince armour suits of Charles V and Philip II of Spain. Little known is the fact that outside the museum, high on a stone sockel (at the south side) is the 60 cm 1833 model mortar that was used in the siege of Antwerp during the Belgian Dutch war.... one of the largest SB gun era guns/mortars ever cast. The Second of these "monster mortars" now sits next to the entrance. two almsot forgotten relics....

Likely, but ROF on a towed mount is rarely the same as on a vehicle

@@TheChieftainsHatch is there ROF data anywhere for any of the cramped one man french turrets with their 47mm gun ? Or a two man British turret with a 6 pounder? A relatively open mount with two crew serving the 47mm of the T-13 should be in between.

You realize the rated ROF for hand loaded guns has almost nothing to do with reality? They shoot as fast as the guy loading them can get shells into the breech. The depends on who that guy is, how the ammo is stored, who is fetching shells for him, how much space he has. They don't even use an universal formula for figuring out that number, so that basically tells you nothing useful, except maybe a very rough estimate of the sort of ballpark you are able to achieve when all is well laid out. Like to aren't going to get 100rpm, but you can probably do better than 20 unless you really messed up.

Funny thing, the Chasseur Ardennais with their oddball stuff managed to piss off the Germans quite beyond what you would expect of such a scale model force. Note it was in the Ardennes (the Bulge), full of woods and rocky hills with very small & far apart roads and bridges. So small stuff might well have been useful. The local Belgians there don't really glorify it, but find it funny, just as we do.

So did the germans and the dutch...it equals the Italian bazooka scooter.

I see bo reason why light TDs, and motorcycle mounted motorizes infantry wouldnt be a coste effective solition for maintaining a capable manouver force for a small country with limited domestic heavy industry.

@egoalter1276 At the start of ww2 some of their bicycle infantry had an issue of less than 20 rifle bullets each..

​@janwitts2688 The Soviets had more artillery than munitions, what's your point?

Well, in that specific case the muzzle was ahead of the driver, concussion blast might have still been an issue, but an unwelcome instant tan wasn't 😉

I believe it was an episode of the History Channel's 'Patton 360' that talked about those particular anti-tank half tracks. There was a veteran interviewee who had served as a driver, and he talked about the permanent hearing damage he suffered from sitting under the end of that barrel.

@@bwilliams463 `eh...Wot?

@@lifuranph.d.9440 I typed 'I BELIEVE IT...'

Nope. We had the French acg as well.

Modern ships aren't armoured though, the threat to them are torpedos and missiles and their defences reflect that. Tanks, especially at the time, had to rely on their armour in combat

​@@smalltime0but they didn't really. Most tanks in this era had very little armor and relies mostly on not getting hit by anything bigger than an MG. And this isn't a tank.

@@justforever96 I'm sorry what are you disagreeing with?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

That's covered in the video.

Best way to get a view on Belgian martial history, I guess, is to look at the over 100 modern heavily armed fortresses built in the 1855-1914 period. Their designer, Brialmont, is now a household name in fortification circles, the late 19th century equivalent of Vauban.

Because you would never be speeding. You can also just buy a Prius or old VW Beetle and get the same effect. Can't get pulled over for speeding if you are unable to exceed the speed limit.

Unfortunately not, as their performance was superior to the earlier models, they were all drafted to serve as Beutepanzer by the Germans. You can find several photos of them in that role, maybe some of they still linger around in a southeastern Europe scrapyard or river :)

that`s on purpose, the calculation was germans will not shoot at puppies !

indead

Assuming that was actually one of their states reasons. Which it might not have been.

If it fits, it sits

We'll never know...

Just started watching, hoping for a "oh bugger, the tank's on fire". 😂

That would have been too much luxury. Back then, in the Belgian Army, having motocycle messengers rather than bicycles was quite modern. Also, the Chasseurs were a bit of a special troop, with small units operating fairly independantly, rather than a classic field formation.A bit guerilla-ish.

Tier 1 premium

Tbh might be a fun little TD to play 😂

He does. It's been done.

One of my more popular videos actually, for some reason.

I think they have one in the same museum.

I'm disappointed. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CjYxmlVk81I.htmlfeature=shared

@@TheChieftainsHatch Thanx, I actually saw that episode because i gave it a like, of course. My memory seems to be going bad since having had COVID twice. 🤷‍♂

No reason. British propaganda still carry on with lies about thar poor Leopold.