Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Strv 104, Pt 2 

Comparing it with abrams would be nice.

Arsenalen has a strv 122 so im sure he would be allowed into it

@@sjoormen1 Wouldn´t be such a big suprise that the Leo. 2A4 will be better then the M1 Abrams XD

@@einar8019 yes and no. Arsenalen doesent own that one. Its just "in storage" there. Still belongs to the Army. So no, Arsenalen doesn't have anything to say about that one. HOWEVER. they do have one of the Leopard 2 prototypes standing outside. But that one has been submerged on the bottom of the Rivere Elbe for a while so it is not very nice inside. The turret looks a bit like a scaled up Leo 1 turret and the chassis is a bit different from the production vehicles.

@@Tankliker The Leo 2 is generally considered to be more cramped (though still fairly comfortable), and having a worse vision cupola (made up by for the stabilized panoramic sight). The Leo is a pretty good tank in terms of ergonomics, but it's *really hard* to bet an M1 in this regard, though I haven't heard either of them compared to more niche western designs (Leclerc, Ariete, Chally 2), wonder how those would measure up.

20:34 "Oh for fook's sake..."

He wasn't trained properly for the tank is on fire scenario in this tank.

And then his mic came unplugged

I would love it if Battlefield V had his famous lines as an Easter egg. It would be pretty hilarious seeing a tank you took out on fire and a faint sound in a very casual voice ''oh bugger, the tank's on fire.''

Wot with Chieftain voice over! For for*k sake! Engine fire hit!

oh, they thaught the Strv 121 (Leo 2A4) crews a few things the last few years ;) the old guys in the Centurions where though bastards that knew their tanks inside and out. and the Leo 2 was new in sweden so they couldnt use it to its full potential, but thats another story.. a good well trained crew that knows their tank will beat anyone even if they have a newer and "better" tank.

It would be one of those situations where the guy who gets the hit first usually wins, which is usually the guy who shoots first. Neither tank's armor is really proofed against the other's gun, especially if using the latest generation ammunition available, so it would be who has the crew better able to land the shots.

@@genericpersonx333 and comms

Yeah. Especially at night. t-72 has night-vision devices.

@@CatEatsDogs Night vision is only useful if the crews are good at using it. In 1973, the Syrians sent T55s with night vision to attack Israeli Centurions without night vision. The Israelis came off the better for it because the Syrian crews were mostly new conscripts with little time in their new tanks whereas the Israeli tankers had many veterans who knew how to use their tanks well despite having to rely on flares, burning enemy vehicles, and their own eyes to find targets in the dark night. Good crews in a less-advanced tank tend to win historically. However, that is the thing about these Swede tanks: they didn't have a clear training advantage over their main enemy: the Soviet Union. Swedish conscripts didn't train more than their Soviet counterparts, both having 1-3 year service requirements. If anything, the Soviets had more time in their vehicles because the Soviets didn't have the same budgetary problems the Swedes did. Sweden never had a cadre of combat veterans likes the Israelis did in 1973, so pitting average Soviet T72 crews (with night vision) against average Swede crews in their Centurions (without night vision) was asking the Swedish soldiers to fight at a potentially serious disadvantage that the Soviets didn't have to worry about themselves.

I did my conscription in the MEKB18 regiment the year before, 1998/99, in an APC company. In one of our last major exercises the STRV 104 from MEKB18 fought the Leopard 122 from other regiments in Sweden, and the STRV 104 performed remarkable well. A lot of times it came down to the skill of the crew who shot out who. A major difference between the tanks watching from outside was the speed. The Leo is much faster both going forward and backward.

@@KruzzeKing Was that the legendary "Rolling Armor Museum" incident? I keep hearing things about it, but i never been able to confirm if it was just pure myth, tall tale or an actual true event.

Roma?

@@KruzzeKing We wen't over to skåne also and had joint exercises with/against other units, including 121s and 122s. Me serving in a PvRb platoon we saw quite a bit of the tanks :)

I did one of my PRAO weeks at the vehicle repair centre at P18 in -99, spent most of it sitting in the drivers station of one of the Strv 104s reading the manual while the AFV techs worked on installing a rolling sled housing for dual commercial 24v truck batteries to replace the dozen or so old square top battery cells. The turret was lifted off completely for the modification. Some years later, 03/04 I did my conscript training in Havdhem company, mortar platoon. My dad used to work up at the officers "retirement home" across the road from the main base at the time (I MKG-staben, Övlt. fd. KA3)

This is correct, wind was banned from being present on our battlefields. Being polite, Swedish wind, it obliged us.

@Steve Arthur I for one love rain and snow! On the subject of snow, my father has an amusing anecdote from his time in the military. So, a bunch of guys training on the Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle in the middle of the Wermlandian winter. However, one of the gunners completely forgets to wait for the loader's "Klart bakåt!" (Meaning that nobody's in the backblast zone), and then also completely forgets to call "Skott kommer!" (Close to "On the way!" in English parlance). Naturally, the officer in charge isn't entirely pleased about this. But instead of yelling, he merely moves them a little, below a grand old spruce tree burgeoning with snow. Then, he has them repeat the drill. Moments later, two Swedish soldiers learn their lesson to be aware of their surroundings when they pull the trigger on these things, as they end up with snow up to their ears.

@Steve Arthur Are you implying that giving one's position in such a manner could possibly be harmful? I don't see how that could be! Jesting aside, I imagine the other folks got s good chuckle out of your involuntary dust storm creation.

That music will be present on all the vijeos he does for Wargaming. And since for these vijeos he was out on his own (powerd by us, the viewers and the Patreon subscribers) he did not have to put that music on.

What are you talking about? In this season he keeps mentioning arse nailing every episode!

And no annoyingly loud and poorly edited music

Disagree. The lack of swearing makes his stuff that much better. Easy thing to swear. Not to easy to axe it.

What?

@@shmeckle666 probably an "oh god the tank's on fire" ref

Just your feet.

I agree, Its a pretty neat feature

So does the T54

Hunter Killer Systems are useful, helps the gunner out too, since the commander can see more of the surroundings than the gunner can.

Only due to it's age and limited maintenance on such non-essentials. Unfamiliarity with how it's supposed to work probably played a big part too.

Oh wow , I'd love to see Nick do an interview with you . That needs to be done on site with one of those beauties.

I started out as a driver on M60A1's too. Finished up as a TC on a M1IP. Lot of changes happened between 1972 and 1989.

@Ralph's Place Crats were alot better than the early mre's. Used to heat the cans up with the heater.

@@raybrindos4514 I was on M113s/M901s (Cav Scout), on a march the driver would put the cans on the engine block. Turned out that worked with later MREs too.

@Ralph's Place I stayed in 27 years RA and NG. Started on M551s and finished on M1s with M60A1, A3 and 48A5s inbetween. Started with C-rats went through 20 years of MRE evolution.

Congratulations... By the way it's Saturday

@@samholdsworth3957 Not everywhere in the world

Its Saturday...

I'll take "How to recognize a Mom's Basement Dwelling Man Child" for 150,000, Alex.

He could be in Australia or New Zealand, would be a Sunday.

Ryan Wilson 20:32

i wonder if the south african Olifant is still active?

@@SDE1994 As far as I can tell they are. The Olifants were apparently upgraded in 2005/6 by BAE Systems and entered service in 2007. www.army-technology.com/projects/olifant/ So that means there are MBTs out there, in service, that are (at least in part) 70 years old, which is astounding.

OMG, These are the B-52's of tanks. Just keep going, and going.

We really swear too much.

"OMG the tank is glowing!" IIRC, it's the same problem as lots of WW2 plane cockpits. They used radium paint on instrumentation and some labelling, over time, it's flaked off and now you got Radium dust giving off Radon-222 as it decays. A real bitch to decon.

@@lucidnonsense942 Radon is what makes cigarettes carcinogenic

@@melvillesperryn9268 That's actually polonium-210 that's responsible for that, not radon. Radon is a gas.

Or snus. If you want to know what happens when you interpose yourself between Swedish troops and their snus, ask the Serbian border guard veterans of the Balkan wars...

Words cannot express how much I don't miss the music.

Yea, they should have closed the museum for Chieftain Or better yet, deliver the tank to his doorstep

In this case, the museum staff really likes either me, or what my product can do to advance the museum.

@@TheChieftainsHatch Probably both, I reckon!

@@TheChieftainsHatch you and Stefan seem to have a similiar sense of humour :)

@@TheChieftainsHatch I'm pretty sure they're just happy about the free attention they're getting. It doesn't happen very often in a country like Sweden and it's nice that people become aware of these vehicles existence in a world where not many people know about them.

Litteral translation: bullet hose

Tank crew until very recently had a height limit of no more than 170cm. The crew that would have been allowed in these vehicles would have been a good head shorter than the Chieftain at the least.

It clearly did. He even mentions on how much easier the other hatch was to open that was less worn. These are simply old vehicles he's unfamiliar with.

Keep doing that. Eventually you get the chance to pick up something dirt cheap to replace them with. You do not want to be broke when the opportunity arise.

I rephrase. I haven't understood the manual

@@TheChieftainsHatch This is understandable. :D

M60A1?

M60A1, searchlight duty.

I was NJARNG 104th AR (or Cav depending on time period) HHC 4.2in Mortars, supported Tank Table VIII. One drill the S3 scheduled the wrong Mortar Firing Point, didn't take Angle T in effect, there were calls for "Check Fire" on the FIST Net, from the 4.2in Illum casings bouncing off of the M48A5 Tanks.

M60A1 in Korea, 1978 and ‘79. We did our night Table 8 runs with both searchlight illumination and flares from the 4.2 inch mortars. My crew shot the hell out of the daylight portion, but both my gunner and I had less than optimal night vision. We managed to qualify, but barely.

@@LOLHAMMER45678 I gunned on an M60A1 with IR so searchlight, range card and flare. Also was a gunner on M48A5s all the same. You had to wait until the flare almost hit the ground to see the target and glare was a bitch.

illumination flare launchers?

@@chestersnapdragonmcphistic579 3:38-3:39ish is where he says it

Nope. Letsseeifican is what he says. lets see if I can

But he IS cursing at 20:30 xD

He served in the military so it tends to be part of your everyday conversation

I guess most do. Last time I visited a tivoli some of the rides was off limit for me, not due to my age but due to my height. If a tivoli can do it sure the military can.

To my understanding, if you're hit by something severe enough to pull that off, you're not surviving the first hit anyway.

Bob semple

Mils, milliradians. Instead of degrees many military applications use mils for measuring angles. To make things confusing though they don't use actual milliradians (of which there would be 2π/1000 in a full circle), they use an approximation. In NATO countries there's 6400 mils to a circle, while in the old Warsaw Pact countries there's 6000. Sweden being neutral but leaning towards NATO placed itself neatly in the middle and used 6300 mils to a circle, at least in the cold war days. At some point after the year 2000 the army converted to NATO standard.

@@renhanxue in 2004, the 6300 lines scale was still used along with the RT90 (Rikets Triangelnät 90, eng: Triangulation grid of the kingdom ver. '90) map reference system. In addition to regular orientation maps of 100 000:1, 50 000:1 and 10 000:1 scale, there were also special maps with geomagnetic deviation and such details for use in artillery ballistics sollutions.

You're talking about the T54/55s which they upgraded to Tirans right? Or did they capture some Cents from the Jordanians to match their own Shots...

1.98m. Yes, I am taller than the average tanker.

At least a second, look for M3 Light video.

Perhaps the ones who didn't like it didn't make it

It’s better than an old ww2 tank.

Depends on what your criteria are, I guess. The fact that torsion became the default in the cold-war period, however, seems to lean the answer in that direction.

@@TheChieftainsHatch sorry for the late reply. My criteria would be world war two. And which country used it to better affect. And what tanks where best suited for it. I really would like to see a video on this topic if you could. Thank you for replying to me Mr. Moran.

That's exactly what it is, and the intercom is the VIC-1 with some slight rewording.