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Installing a plug (common model in the european union) 

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@mernok2001
@mernok2001 3 года назад
If there is no ground you should install a type C ungrounded socket.
@terrym3106
@terrym3106 Год назад
Your right because you can tell on the outside of the socket if its grounded or not
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Год назад
Yes, though there is no type C socket. It is CEE 7/1. Type C plug (CEE 7/16 Alternative II) or the Europlug is designed for various different sockets. It has traditionally not had any specific socket (though recently such sockets have been introduced. They accept nothing but the Europlug)
@wichtelchen
@wichtelchen Год назад
It depends on which country. Here in germany, C-type sockets and ungrounded wirings are both banned. On old existing installations, bootleg grounding is used.
@Marcel_Germann
@Marcel_Germann 5 месяцев назад
@@wichtelchen Until the 1950s it was permitted to install such type C sockets without a cpc. But only for special rooms with insulated floors and no extraneous potential like waterpipes, pipes from the central heating systems and so on. And they had to be dry rooms. Usually this was done in bed- and living rooms. Worked like a bird sitting on an overhead line wire. And the other one is TN-C, instead of having a separate neutral and protective conductor you had one single PEN conductor. Or PME or MGN. Was permitted until 1973 to do so in new installations. And also regulated how to connect it. In the last revision of the VDE 0100 from 1969 before this practice was banned for new installation, it was stated that the PEN must be connected to the earth terminal of the socket outlet, and from there a wire bridge to the neutral terminal of the socket outlet. Before it was usually done the other way around. This was banned due to the risk of electrocution if the PEN conductor breaks. In that case due to the connection between the neutral terminal and the earth terminal a metal housing would become live at mains voltage. But it's not unsafe in general, it's still safer than an earth terminal with nothing connected to it. In case of a defective appliance the housing of a class 1 appliance will be live at mains voltage for sure.
@wichtelchen
@wichtelchen 5 месяцев назад
​@@Marcel_Germann Yes, bootleg ground is dangerous and still common. Even GFCI sockets placed after the splitted PEN don't catch all of the risks if they share the same PEN with other sockets - may not trip at all and/or don't fully cut the power from the faulty wirings - since your'e not allowed to switch off protective wires at all.
@davidaustin8232
@davidaustin8232 2 года назад
Also need to check the socket is level, agree with many of the comments below especially about three connect sockets without a proper/viable earth connection.
@__Man__
@__Man__ 6 месяцев назад
Type J and N are better and simpler, it is compact, unnaked ground, compatible with Europlug C and also goes deep before having contact. With this dimension, you can have 3 type J and N plugs, instead of 1 type F.
@StAnger561to770
@StAnger561to770 2 года назад
I have a switch that's like an on-off switch for two different plugs. I am trying to figure out how to make the connection. Would be great if you can make a video for this. Probably I can find one online. I can hire a guy but usually they try to charge me three times what they charge the locals. Which is kind of ironic because I was born in this land..bit everyone thinks I am from another place.
@J_Alrighty
@J_Alrighty Год назад
Great video. Thanks for making this
@Flat_Earth_Sophia
@Flat_Earth_Sophia Год назад
It's correct to just reverse the wires??? How is that OK?
@jessederinger
@jessederinger 2 года назад
So I always heard that these European bad bois are usually 240. Is that not the case?
@ivankirola2707
@ivankirola2707 2 года назад
They are always from 220-240V.
@elitrem1843
@elitrem1843 2 года назад
Its been 230V single phase for a long time now, 220V is basically obsolete in our country and ive personally never seen an outlet here that does 240.
@costinhomescu2010
@costinhomescu2010 Год назад
​@@elitrem1843I've seen a 260v outlet at my local lidl, crazy
@__Man__
@__Man__ 6 месяцев назад
​@@costinhomescu2010that's personal problem. Electrician should change the pole the secondary winding.
@insider9796
@insider9796 3 года назад
At least put a bridge between N and PE when you don't have an earth wire because if you get a current onto the case of an electric device it can't flow away and you can get a deadly shock if you touch it. Because you are the only connection to the ground then and because of that, all the current flows over you.
@LionRecordsHD
@LionRecordsHD 3 года назад
He needs to know which is the earthing system of the distribution transformer. The TN-C system allows the use of a earthing bridge. The T-T system does not allow the use of a neutral wire as protective earth. There are two earthing systems in Europe. Two earthing systems can be in one country
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Год назад
You cannot give just such a blanked advice. One must follow the local code. Now one should not install grounded sockets without earth and installing ungrounded ones is strictly controlled, basically just to replace old broken ones. In Finland adding new ungrounded sockets even on old installations was banned this year. Also one generally cannot mix grounded and ungrounded in the same room. It would be dangerous if you touch grounded and ungrounded equipment at the same time and the latter has case energized.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 Год назад
@Lucky Joestar It depends on the installation and the code. That generally is not allowed anywhere on new installations but it is common in many countries in old installations. On TN-C there simply is no separate ground wire. Each country has their own code and the codes change so one must apply the proper code in the country at the relevant time. When grounding was first mandated in Finland in 1930 the code actually mandated the use of the neutral wire. Separate ground wire was not allowed - likely to save copper. It was only in 1989 when use of neutral for grounding was banned though a 10 mm² PEN-wire was still allowed until 2007.
@IAmThe_RA
@IAmThe_RA Год назад
​@@LionRecordsHDEven for TNCS, earth and neutral should be bonded before/at the meter or before the main switch/breakers.
@IAmThe_RA
@IAmThe_RA Год назад
​@@okaro6595 Dude wants his fridge and oven to explode by making every metal part effectively neutral. Hopefully his house has RCDs and AFDDs protections. But they would have a field day 😂
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi 3 года назад
Very informative good job 👍
@terrym3106
@terrym3106 Год назад
Incorrect because if there in no earth he should of installed a type c
@creutzwald1105
@creutzwald1105 3 года назад
If there is no earth available, don't install a socket that accepts earthed plugs!
@VerticalWit
@VerticalWit 3 года назад
Wise words, thank you
@contrabandest
@contrabandest 3 года назад
Is there any way to make the ground?
@dariolance7637
@dariolance7637 3 года назад
Can you explain why?
@killianmmmoore
@killianmmmoore 3 года назад
@@dariolance7637 because people who don't know otherwise will assume it is earthed ...
@dariolance7637
@dariolance7637 3 года назад
@@killianmmmoore Oh yeah true. Didn't think about that. I guess you could still label the plug to warn people, if you really have to.
@VerticalWit
@VerticalWit 3 года назад
Thanks for the video
@DavidBerquist334
@DavidBerquist334 3 года назад
Wich country is it in
@DavidBerquist334
@DavidBerquist334 3 года назад
@@eloquent-nuance what is the rest of the sentence
@nickparr3153
@nickparr3153 3 года назад
@@DavidBerquist334 Somewhere in the EU, from the socket style, the description of the video, and the Spanish name.
@jessederinger
@jessederinger 2 года назад
Lol…earthed. Hell ya
@barryg3431
@barryg3431 2 года назад
too much heavy breathing and grunting 😂
@Ignisan_66
@Ignisan_66 Год назад
It's a hard work :D
@caseliaan
@caseliaan 4 месяца назад
Indonesia is the same
@jacquiparr9552
@jacquiparr9552 3 года назад
Firstly, this video refers to a SOCKET, a female part, not a plug. Secondly, you NEVER leave a disconnected safety earth. Thirdly, convention states neutral wifres go to the left, phase (or live) goes to the right. Fourthly, you use crosshead screwdrivers for crosshead screws. Wher did you learn your trade? Kindergarten?
@AndreJKaram
@AndreJKaram 3 года назад
Add on all the above his annoying breathing 😡🤦🏻‍♂️
@nickparr3153
@nickparr3153 3 года назад
Very well said. This video is moronic and highly dangerous for all the reasons stated. You never leave a safety earth unconnected. And the guy's breathing is irritating.
@nickparr3153
@nickparr3153 3 года назад
@@eloquent-nuance Sad attempt at harassment by a person who neither gives his name nor has ever contributed before. As everyone knows, the term "outlet" for example applies specifically to any gender neutral part, whereas "socket" applies only to the female component, as in this video. Typos aside, the whole video is amateur and indefensibly dangerous. You must always observe fundamental safety precautions, as per relevant standards.
@nickparr3153
@nickparr3153 3 года назад
@@eloquent-nuance If it's so "dead", why do you anonymously troll it? Don't waste your breath answering, I won't be reading
@Ignisan_66
@Ignisan_66 Год назад
Which convention states that phase goes to the right? Schuko socket is not polarized.
@sebastianmackay5657
@sebastianmackay5657 3 года назад
Why he moaning
@bambam88888
@bambam88888 11 месяцев назад
@cruzdelasadastechnical8636 he seems to have a problem with his breathing, most probably because of a heart problem. I wish he is ok and he checks his health regularly 🙂
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