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Installing and testing steel Over The Tire Tracks for a skidsteer 

Jesse Muller
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In this video, I test out some affordable steel OTT's.
Link for tracks: www.tractiontracks.com

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@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver
@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver 3 года назад
That’s very interesting, I’ve never seen that type of set up before. Very cool.
@thiiiiiagogatti
@thiiiiiagogatti 3 года назад
Dauminique it's a pretty common use, have others types ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YnlMf_vu5Lw.html
@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver
@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver 3 года назад
@@thiiiiiagogatti I’m sure it is. I’ve just never seen it.
@deanfisher9345
@deanfisher9345 3 года назад
Yeah they are not as common in the northwest.
@Northern_Farmer
@Northern_Farmer 3 года назад
My old bobcat had them style on...these ones look a tad lighter and I think would work better.
@benzw2505
@benzw2505 3 года назад
I've made a couple sets of these style before. Cost about $300 for the chain and flat bar if you can cut/bend & weld your own.
@Gustav4
@Gustav4 3 года назад
was waiting to see the machine fill the bucket with tracks like in the first part of the video
@dmmaddex
@dmmaddex 3 года назад
You and Andrew have great skills, Jesse.
@marty0715yt
@marty0715yt 3 года назад
Mad Numbchuck Skills
@SteifWood
@SteifWood 3 года назад
The level of competence you find on YT amazes me. We have used these kinds of tracks on our harvesters and forwarders for a generation in Scandinavia -- the technology was well known even when I first started my logging career in the late 70's.
@DIRT-BOSS
@DIRT-BOSS 3 года назад
Definitely changes the whole dynamic of a skid steer when you add tracks ! I ran metal tracks over tires for years they work awesome.. 💪🏼
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
yea, even when I get a tracked machine. it will be nice to run 2
@stevensaxon8888
@stevensaxon8888 3 года назад
@@jmuller86 Jesse what name brand of tracked skid steer are you looking at?
@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver
@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver 3 года назад
It must be a regional thing. I’ve never seen someone add tracks over tires.
@DIRT-BOSS
@DIRT-BOSS 3 года назад
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver Yes Dominique all the loggers around here have them It turns a tire skid steer into a tank..
@stevensaxon8888
@stevensaxon8888 3 года назад
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver it's common here in the southern USA .
@pwengert1
@pwengert1 3 года назад
Those seemed to work quite well. A great thing to have for all that mud! Well done.
@jameshicks4944
@jameshicks4944 3 года назад
Good idea,very smart investment,and,the pond is looking good,when the grass and landscaping is done it's gonna be beautiful,your property is looking good,great video,Thankyou.
@daddybob6096
@daddybob6096 3 года назад
Hi from New Zealand Jessie. I'm old enough to be your's and Andrews grandpa, yet i love to watch what you boys are getting up to. Most men including me are very interested in machinery and what it does, this is why you both have high numbers of followers. Without a doubt, Andrew and you, Jesse, are way up there in the interest videos. In particular i admire the no profanity vids.Sometimes Jesse, i watch your vids but only click on like and don't say anything, but i'm here watching. Uncle Bob, NZ.
@4Happy2Hours0
@4Happy2Hours0 2 года назад
I have the same tracks I got back in 2015. I have not had to replace a tire, bearings, ect. 500+ hours and I am still using them today. If I had not had them, I would have never been able to do any work in the mud around my place. Wish I would have taking some videos over the years to show how these transform your loader into a dozer with a bucket. They also work great in the snow as well, never had any trouble with ice build up.
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 2 года назад
thats good to hear, thanks
@patfrederick7902
@patfrederick7902 3 года назад
Your videos r always good n dont drag on no matter how long they are.you do good work as well
@reesegary
@reesegary 3 года назад
I always wondered about those tracks. I do alot of work in the woods and it's muddy most of the time. I might have to give those a try Thanks for the video
@mjmcomputers
@mjmcomputers 3 года назад
Been thinking about doing some tracks like this on my bobcat. Thanks for sharing. I’ll check these out.
@rontopping2048
@rontopping2048 3 года назад
I purchased these work great , installed on bobcat s185. Now I own dedicated track and tire machines
@GhostVapez420
@GhostVapez420 3 года назад
I had a old 825 bobcat that I put a set of these on and man the difference they made was night and day with how much it would push and the places you could go and I put well over 1000 hours on them and never had any problems with axles or tires and I had her sunk in mud up to the radiator and she was still pushing like a dozer...got a brand new set arriving tomorrow for my gehl 6620 I have now
@allanmcleod3302
@allanmcleod3302 3 года назад
When you put them on just connect a piece of chain between the ends across the front tire and back up by the time you get the joint between the tires it will be tight just a little trick my axle seals leaked because of the tracks so be careful
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 3 года назад
Manganese alloy also work-hardens the more you use it. We used manganese alloys for our rock crusher hammers because of wear resistance..
@morgansword
@morgansword 3 года назад
Your buddy Andrew must just about drive you crazy with all the toys he has for his. So far, no vacuum cleaner attachment yet tho. Matt from diesel creek has his set up like that. You and him run neck and neck on fixing your own stuff up. Its a kind of funny feeling at first worrying over will it chew the tires up or just what but you have it all under control... thanks for sharing
@KenMrKLC
@KenMrKLC 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing... that def is a great price. I looked into them a few years back and I remember them being at least double that. I wonder how much extra stress they put on the hydro motors and pumps... I guess its not really a concern as if you can't use the machine at all in mud vs extra wear and making money.
@kylejones2075
@kylejones2075 3 года назад
I have metal tracks for my 763. They are a game changer in the mud.
@plumber802
@plumber802 3 года назад
Thanks Jesse for another great video.
@jackjacke4654
@jackjacke4654 3 года назад
you can always weld some vertical plate on top of each run for extra traction as well.
@ezm6153
@ezm6153 3 года назад
Surprised it worked out so well - nothing compares to a tracked machine for dirt work. Takeuchi or Kubota is a brand to look at - we have had excellent results with these machines and they seem bullet proof.
@ThatcherKSA
@ThatcherKSA 3 года назад
Nice setup! I could be wrong but I remember a manufacturer saying you wanted a few inches of chain sag on the top in-between the wheels not making them too tight to ware the axles. Maybe worth checking out?
@whskythrttl
@whskythrttl 3 года назад
Got the same thing off a guy who made them out near hunter mountain in upstate ny about 13 years ago, 7/16 manganese chain they used in Alaska on tires,, worked great in the mud, real rough on firm ground, stopped using them because it felt like it was really stressing out my machine, found a used set of actual grouser tracks, and there is definitely a difference, machine glides everywhere, tracks don't feel like they are binding to stay on the tires because they are alot looser, and when the ground firms up, alot smoother, paid same price too for the used set
@rockyhart3578
@rockyhart3578 3 года назад
Definitely wakes a skidsteer up for working in mud. But can be hell on tire sidewalls.
@nepicness
@nepicness 3 года назад
Seems like it’d put extra wear on the wheel bearings too
@silverrussell1978
@silverrussell1978 3 года назад
I put steel OTT tracks on my new holland LS180 since my property is sandy loam and sugar sand. I really needed the flotation. I actually loosened my tracks up a notch since I was worried about sticks, rocks and debris getting inside them and causing a bind which could take out some wheel bearings. You seem to have yours extremely tight and that can definitely cause you issues with all the rocks you have. It's ok if the tires slip inside the tracks. btw, I still make a mess even with tracks
@bigbird2100
@bigbird2100 3 года назад
Great video 👍 What a result , some worry about sidewall wear just do what the banger races do add Sidewalls ☺️
@Crewsy
@Crewsy 3 года назад
Seen them around but never used them for the work I used to do. The boss wished he had them on one job we helped out on redoing the weeping tile on a house. It was a wet area and getting gravel around to the back was a real pain with the mud and a skidsteer on tires.
@captnsquid8151
@captnsquid8151 2 года назад
Matt of Diesel Creek has those chains on his skid steer and he swears by them. Saves the tires and great for top gravel leveling or finishing work. you can see them in his vids.. Thanks for this vid I like it
@brucepaxton1149
@brucepaxton1149 3 года назад
I was hoping to see you try to dig into that pile of dirt with the tracks on. I've had the heavier duty version of the Grouser bar tracks for some time and they work great. They're a little easier on your tire sidewalls and with the extra bars it helps with traction and flotation. The bar version is between 2-3 times the cost depending on your tire size and wheelbase but if you're patient you can find a good used set for about a $1,000. The heavier bar tracks are more difficult to handle and install, however if you modify a heavy ratchet strap and do it a few times, it goes pretty fast. As far as the squeaking and noise, it is irritating if you aren't wearing hearing protection but you should be anyway.
@Sixguns1
@Sixguns1 3 года назад
Those add a lot of versatility to that machine. You end up with the ability to go muddin or to use the machine on paved or delicate surfaces that require tires or rubber tracks.
@brennancass3747
@brennancass3747 3 года назад
Same machine I run with grouser tracks, wouldn't be without them. Tractiontracks is also in the same town as me, pretty neat.
@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc
@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc 3 года назад
That's what diesel creek has the look like a bike chain but in this vid look like regular old chain 🔗 but like this skid steer rather than diesels Bobcat
@jjtamer4
@jjtamer4 3 года назад
Your subscribers just keep going up and up. Seems like a month ago you were at like 40k.
@rbryson07
@rbryson07 3 года назад
Cool scale on the toys at the end
@NotaRobot_gif
@NotaRobot_gif 3 года назад
They get a lot more traction than the rubber tracks! Great for the slop!!
@rushedscheduledfun3963
@rushedscheduledfun3963 3 года назад
I hope they work out for you. Saw that type on ebay. Was not sure what happens when the stretch. Your thoughts? You can probably make whatever repairs they may need in the distant future. I finally found a pair of Grouser brand that fit my S175 10x16.5 tire. I had to buy a new link for each side to lengthen them for my machine.
@ExploringCabinsandMines
@ExploringCabinsandMines 3 года назад
about time there's only a few vids on these types of tracks.
@kylejones2075
@kylejones2075 3 года назад
Check out the tracks on my 763 on my page they are beefy
@donnal.oglesby4806
@donnal.oglesby4806 3 года назад
Love this video and the tracks for the wheels makes so much sense. what are your plans for the " Mud Pit" pond? thank you for sharing.
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
thanks. we had just had a biblical flood there and it washed all the silt into the pond. it will eventually run out of silt and clear up. it has been pretty clear for a while
@lawrenceengel3330
@lawrenceengel3330 3 года назад
Amazing how much of s difference those made, great video
@Jacob_6420
@Jacob_6420 3 года назад
These things make a huge difference. I'm a concrete mixer driver and have seen wheeled skids be stuck and the over tire tracks just plow through the mud
@williamedwards3546
@williamedwards3546 3 года назад
Great job Jesse 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@nicholaslacovara2381
@nicholaslacovara2381 3 года назад
Wonder if you let the air out of the tires a bit if it would have been easier to put them on?
@gregstone1306
@gregstone1306 3 года назад
I have used loegering trailblazers for years. Long wearing excellent traction. Get a feel for not slipping the tires in the track it will chunk the bar tread. Careful with flat rocks they will push the bead off the wheel. I get 700 hrs for bolts about 3000 hrs total. You can drive around a rubber track machine in mud. Only high center will stop you. They are cheap used now as the market moves to track machines.
@jackhume4532
@jackhume4532 3 года назад
It’s amazing what you can find to improve a piece of equipment on line, and that goes for everything that you can think of ??????.
@nucupanzaru9609
@nucupanzaru9609 3 года назад
Super work! 👍👍🏆
@jeffreyjones6416
@jeffreyjones6416 3 года назад
I honestly thought you did it by eye until I seen the leveller in motion lol
@phillipjones3342
@phillipjones3342 3 года назад
Congratulations nice job
@chrissims3591
@chrissims3591 3 года назад
I used old fire hose on my ramps. Works great with the tracks.
@kylejones2075
@kylejones2075 3 года назад
I used old keabler cookie conveyor belts on my ramps worked awesome. Kinda smelled good for awhile too!
@MrRonluker
@MrRonluker 7 месяцев назад
Great job. I was hoping to see you push into the pile again to compare apples to apples.
@ronaldclark2624
@ronaldclark2624 3 года назад
Good idea. It works great. Just a friend Ron
@EdwardTilley
@EdwardTilley 3 года назад
Good video and product demo. You should be asking the manufacturer for a discount, they can only say no. The great thing about tires is they don't destroy lawns - but the downside is they slip. You have to think this puts a lot of new pressure on the axes; I realize there is no suspension here but how easy is it to over-tighten and over-pull the axels together?
@KennysTreeRemoval
@KennysTreeRemoval 3 года назад
I got metal tracks as well on my Case 1845c and I've had the machine 3 feet deep in soft muddy sand
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 3 года назад
BEST OF BOTH WORLDS LESS PARTS TO BREAK AND WEAR OUT LIKE A TRACK MACHINE
@bobjoncas2814
@bobjoncas2814 3 года назад
...good one, those should do the trick..stay safe...
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 3 года назад
Looks like a big Improvement in traction. I've heard those things tear up the tires pretty bad. But if they're already junk tires and obviously that's no big deal. Do you think you could have any ill effects on the drives?
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
I dont think so as long as you keep the hubs greased. but yea I have junk tires so no big deal. I will get another set of brand new tires on rims to switch when I dont need these tracks
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 3 года назад
@@jmuller86 got you. Yeah that makes sense to have a spare set of good wheels/tires for it.
@TheSoloAsylum
@TheSoloAsylum 3 года назад
Tire pressure adjusts track tightness, looks like you should lower your psi a bit
@SchnelleKat
@SchnelleKat 3 года назад
Jesse, Do you plan to upgrade the Lights on the Skid loader to LED? Would provide a good tutorial on it and content! I have a HYDRA-MAC and plan to do so myself. Halogen just doesn't cut it. LED is cheap enough.
@gregorynie8051
@gregorynie8051 3 года назад
Lover the videos!
@bmorrison0070
@bmorrison0070 3 года назад
nice addition
@mariowickel456
@mariowickel456 3 года назад
When I saw those I thought wow, they don't look very aggressive. There's another guy in PA. Uses something similar track over tire set up , but they looked more aggressive "Diesel Creek" is the channel Matt is like you buys n fixes
@trader4239
@trader4239 3 года назад
Nice good job jesse
@horstszibulski19
@horstszibulski19 3 года назад
Great shots with the cam inside the chain! :-D
@TheGeezzer
@TheGeezzer 3 года назад
Good upgrade takes the skid out of skidsteer!
@ArizonaKid
@ArizonaKid 3 года назад
Good job
@dtrlfilms
@dtrlfilms 3 года назад
I just put a set of chains on the rears. Night and day also.
@staygreasy
@staygreasy 2 дня назад
If extra traction was needed for some reason, I wonder if you could weld or bolt extra fins to the cross members, to dig deeper into the mud, snow, etc.
@art1muz13
@art1muz13 3 года назад
IT'S WEIRD. THERE WAS THAT RED PROGRESS BAR ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THIS VIDEO AS IF I'D WATCHED THIS BUT I DIDN'T! I'M GLAD I DID CHECK AND WATCH IT IT WAS A GOOD AND EDUCATIONAL VIDEO, THANK YOU SIR!
@PeterM_K
@PeterM_K 3 года назад
Could you add spikes on them for use on ice?
@firefarm376
@firefarm376 3 года назад
Are those the traction tracks set from NC reason I ask is they are only 1.5 hrs from me and if they looked like they would work I'd go get a set for my cat 226
@josephking6515
@josephking6515 3 года назад
11:40 Nice big crane but where did you get that massive ocean going size canoe? 😀 Serious question. Generally what is the advantage of wheels over rubber or steel tracks on a skid steer? Thanks for your videos. They are much appreciated. 👍
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
wheels are better for not tearing up lawns, also better in the snow and blacktop, hard surfaces
@the2060ish
@the2060ish 3 года назад
Keep on tracking Jess..
@jfv65
@jfv65 3 года назад
Nice camera work between the wheels and tracks! Maybe the traction can be improved even more by welding some sharp edges on those flat pieces? (don't know the names of those)
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
grousers, yea I may do that.
@ExperimentalFun
@ExperimentalFun 3 года назад
Those are nice to have, I wonder how they effect the wear on the tires over time, especially on the side walls, I guess the mud actually helps lubricate it lol
@adhdieseltech236
@adhdieseltech236 3 года назад
You’d be surprised, Ponsse forestry equipment uses tracks very similar to this but with more lugs, it doesn’t affect the tires much at all. They actually protect the tires from a lot of the major wear and slices that most tires suffer. It would probably take a couple thousand hours before any noticeable wear has occurred
@fishsticks4981
@fishsticks4981 3 года назад
@@adhdieseltech236exactly you can see the video with Diesel creek with how much he swears by them
@TRCCtv
@TRCCtv 3 года назад
@@fishsticks4981 his tracks are very different, they're all just linked together, no chain like this one... i could see his being more effective but i am sure this one is much much cheaper.
@AaronHollander314
@AaronHollander314 3 года назад
Why not just wrap each tire individually?
@TRCCtv
@TRCCtv 3 года назад
@@AaronHollander314 Watch when he is driving through the mud and see how much each rib digs in to the mud when it's between the tires, more surface area and more ribs on the ground for more traction
@Farmall450
@Farmall450 3 года назад
I've never seen these cheaper tracks. Longevity on abrasive surfaces will be key
@clydeacor1911
@clydeacor1911 3 года назад
I have a set of commercial steel over tire tracks and I don't think that you want them quite that tight. Being overly tight can wipe out your bearings and will also wear out your chain links much faster. Your tires won't really slip in them if they're a little bit loose you just want them tight enough that they won't slip off. You need a little wiggle room for when you pick up a rock or stick or something because if it's that tight and you pick up something then something is probably going to bind and break. Just a thought.
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
I think the idea behind these tracks is that the master link is weaker than the rest of the steel so if something gets bound up, it just breaks the master link. the guy who makes these says you want them pretty tight
@douglasthompson2740
@douglasthompson2740 3 года назад
Any idea of the price difference between your style and those that 'Diesel Creek' uses? Has to be a lot on the amount of steel in them alone.
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
they are about double what these run
@AW-Services
@AW-Services 3 года назад
Yours are a little less in the way of steel pads from Diesel creeks but I bet they won't squeak as much
@roblong6518
@roblong6518 3 года назад
Will help for sure, but Loegering tracks are the best way to go. Ours will go places the dedicated track machine want.
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
they are nice but expensive
@case85xtfan33
@case85xtfan33 3 года назад
Jesse Muller my loegering mud tracks lasted for roughly three thousand hours and we live on swamp and rock piles also I wouldn't worry about the trailer and putting the wood boards on the ramps
@caseyrees2656
@caseyrees2656 2 года назад
Fyi i have the same tracks and if u do the inside of the track first next body its easier than doing the out side of thevtrack last…
@megape95
@megape95 3 года назад
I think these tracks look pritty light duty, thin chain and only 10mm steel, im sure they will work for a while. But how about the stretch when it wears? The chain is quite a long link so shortening it takes a big step..? Hope you got good luck with it. Keep up the good work.
@4Happy2Hours0
@4Happy2Hours0 2 года назад
I have had the same tracks for almost 10 years, i have not needed to tighten from them stretching yet. As the loosen they seem to be easier on the machine but more rub and slip on the tire sidewall near the tread is all.
@joshmills208
@joshmills208 3 года назад
I’m new subscribed buddy
@mohammadshabatat6334
@mohammadshabatat6334 Год назад
What is the solution to the problem of hanging mud in the trunk of the truck?
@125sm3
@125sm3 3 года назад
Certainly makes all the difference for traction in the mud.
@dlightning2510
@dlightning2510 3 года назад
Weld some spikes onto the grousers for added traction.
@sivart173
@sivart173 2 года назад
Jesse I noticed in some of your ICF house videos that you don’t have the chains on anymore. Did they not work well? Any updates are appreciated.
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 2 года назад
They work well but I have just had them off until I get stuck, which is hardly ever but I also dont use it every day
@TheGamecheater100
@TheGamecheater100 3 года назад
at the end i thought those toys were actual machines hahaha
@spencermcginty9812
@spencermcginty9812 3 года назад
I have 2 narrow rubber mats that I put on the trailer ramps and those work really good for traction even when it’s icy or raining.
@ronaldbarrett-pg7po
@ronaldbarrett-pg7po Год назад
I was just wondering what company has them steel tracks
@tombarker2369
@tombarker2369 3 года назад
what is the advantage of chaining two wheels together--seems counter-intuitive to me but i dont know much about this stuff.
@rubenbraekman4515
@rubenbraekman4515 3 года назад
More traction
@davidmorse8432
@davidmorse8432 3 года назад
You get better flotation because the space between the wheels is bridged by the track, more like a tracked setup. There is better ground engagement too.
@nevillewomersley7841
@nevillewomersley7841 3 года назад
Jesse I really enjoy your videos. Sometimes the time lapse between them is frustrating
@BlakeMerckleTrucking
@BlakeMerckleTrucking 3 года назад
We have a set for our skid steer the only downside we have had was with the tires getting slick an spinning inside the track them loegering conversion tracks work real good though
@knightofelemia1567
@knightofelemia1567 3 года назад
I have seen tracks for wheeled skid steers before but these ones look so light duty hope they last you a long time and turn out to be a good investment. Just need a video on buying a cheap track skid steer and fix it up I enjoy your repair vids on making what was junk and bringing it back to life and putting it back out to work.
@jonasstahl9826
@jonasstahl9826 3 года назад
Even, if the chain dont last long, you can easy Diy them.
@ABPressureWashing
@ABPressureWashing 3 года назад
here in India these type of chains are normally available.
@robbieeades1956
@robbieeades1956 3 года назад
Is that drone that you have a Dji magic mini? Or a spark?
@jmuller86
@jmuller86 3 года назад
mavic air
@ke6bnl
@ke6bnl 3 года назад
That is impressive, price is fair, but I live in sunny California
@rolfnilsen6385
@rolfnilsen6385 3 года назад
Tracks are great. But you do get stuck in new and even better ways eventually :-)
@EdwardTilley
@EdwardTilley 3 года назад
Yeah, a false confidence booster. The great thing about tires is they don't destroy lawns - downside is they slip.
@rolfnilsen6385
@rolfnilsen6385 3 года назад
@@EdwardTilley Physics is a real thing.
@Buckswoodshop
@Buckswoodshop 3 года назад
👍👍
@Sugarkryptonite
@Sugarkryptonite 3 года назад
We used to have a similar setup on our Case 40XT, but with rubber pads on the tracks instead of just steel. As your buddy said, completely transforms the machine from something useless in slight mud, to something completely usable. Videos on my channel if anyone is interested.
@Chr.U.Cas1622
@Chr.U.Cas1622 3 года назад
👍👌👏
@georgehill99
@georgehill99 3 года назад
Good video...fitting segment tho seemed tedious...Butch from Florence Texas
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