Hey Jesse, you can make a short Pex piece. I'm a Union plumber and pipefitter and do it all the time. You almost had it! Use the Milwaukee Pex gun and expand the first sleeve about 3 times then switch over to the other sleeve and expand that one about 3 times. Continue expanding the sleeves this way, back and forth until the sleeve bottoms out on each side. I normally continue to expand each sleeve after full expansion at least 3 to 4 additional times going back and forth to each sleeve then quickly push both fittings in the sleeves at the same time, the more times you keep expanding to its max expansion the easier it is to get the fittings in, just give it a few seconds for the pipe to contract down to the fittings and they will stop moving or swiveling around. Also, just FYI that Milwaukee Pex pipe cutter allows you to slice a sleeve and the pipe when you keep the handle closed. The blade protrudes on the end of the cutter in that shallow valley. It's much easier to slice off the sleeves and pipe if you heat both of them first with the heat gun. I re-use fittings all the time this way making sure that you have not scored the plastic barb fittings with the blade though. Hope that helps you in the future
Jesse enjoy watching your channel and learning. You made a statement your not a professional, would respectfully disagree. While it’s great to strive for perfection sometimes time and space constraints don’t allow it. I say you did a great job and appreciate you sharing your projects and teaching us what you know!
Brilliant !! Plumbing and electrical... both trades where you always fight against the rats nest. No matter how methodical and careful you are, the complexity and the nature of the materials will always look like a jumble of chaos. All in all, this system looks pretty damn neat.
Really enjoy all your videos Jesse, an hour goes in a heart beat. My favourite part in this one is your youngest boy 'who could talk the leg off a galloping horse' chatting to you while you work. Suddenly you stop and stare into the camera with a smile on your face. MAN that was perfection right there. Cheers
Jesse... I don't know how you do it all. Obviously you want your heat and water heater working before winter really sets in... but then you are also building your shop too... and didn't you mention that you at least wanted to get the foundation poured before it got too cold? Here I have been looking forward to more progress on your dream shop.... and you churn out the 2nd part of this install. PLUS you help your parents too! I just don't know how you do it all. Every time you accomplish something, I hope you take a second and bask in that sense of accomplishment. Your whole approach has been quite unique... ambitious and laudable. Thanks for sharing all of this with us - just showing what is possible when you really think things through and keep your nose to the grindstone.
it is really hard to find the time to do it all, but somehow I manage. I think next year will be the first year in a long time where I can take it easy just a little bit and not be in a rush for anything. I hope to take advantage of that and spend a little more time with the kids
I built a ground mount solar array by myself. From design all the way to commissioning. Its amazing how many hiccups (redoing work/redesigning) you run into along the way. I truly do feel your pain. But i know absolutely everything there is to know about my system and its much nicer and cheaper than i would have paid for! Great video.
I actually really want to get into that next year, I really know nothing about solar but I am trying to pick up tips and tricks when I have a moment. I would like to be able to power my house completely off grid with batteries and enough solar to charge them for the nights
Love the technical type videos Jesse. It's really cool to see someone delve into an energy efficient complete home system that probably would intimidate most people. I hope that you revisit this system in the future and give updates and thoughts on it when the weather gets extreme. I always appreciate your videos and the time it must take you to edit your detailed content. You remind me alot of Rich Trethewy in that you understand your craft, embrace newer technologies and have the ability to explain it for others to learn from you. Thanks.
Jesse, very well explained. Its surprising you got it all working in line from the start. I did a similar set up for a client with solar boilers. It took us weeks to get the system operating correctly. As soon as you deviate from the manufacturers advice you depend on creative solutions of experienced geniuses and not many people are willing to put their work online. Thanks.
@1:02:08 😂 common jesse who are you kidding!!?? Your work looks freakin awesome!!.. talkin about how it doesn’t look professional… pssshhh.. your work looks better than a lot of professionals work I see!.. you should be really proud of yourself man, you know that shit looks fire haha
This is a fantastic resource mate, thanks for going through all the time to capture all the details of the install. I’m planning a ground source water only solution for my new build and information is very scarce, watching this is certainly invaluable for us chaos that like to do what we can ourselves.
I have a similar setup at home, was installed by somebody else and it was there when we bought the house. It took me several years to really understand how everything worked and I have been pouring money to it ever since due to many design issues/maintenance not done. This video gives a pretty good idea how geo works and helps me to understand my system better. Thanks Jesse.
Comments like these keep making me drift towards an outside downdraft boiler. The water to water stuff seems like it’s adding complexities on top of an already complex setup.
@@silverbackag9790 water to water systems are great, but complex in setup , but in practice are simple. As long as you keep the maintenance they run very well.
I appreciate what he's doing with all this but I can't seem to get past all the special parts that aren't available at normal hardware stores. Maybe if these systems get more popular things will change
I’ve been following you for several years and this series has really been great. If I was your age this is what I’d do, I’m a DIY guy and could have done everything you did. There’s a point in life where we all need help, you are lucky to have a guy like him to advise and help you. I’m happy for you, you work HARD for what you have. My bragging rights are back in the early 70s l used scrap metal to build a water stove and hooked it into my hot air heating system, heated my house, domestic water and saved a lot of money, just like your going to do. It is going to save money for the rest of your life in this house. Keep us updated.
Mr. Jesse this is my 3 video from you channel. kitchen led light desk , bathroom and geothermal system just in one nigh and I enjoy your passion for you HOME. I am from Colombia
Jessie, Great videos as always. I know you are a licensed electrician and may already know this but if you need to run a backup generator be sure it's generates low total harmonic distortion. Many generator manufacturers claim pure sine wave but that is misleading as it alludes to "clean" power. The best course is to use an inverter generator even though they are more expensive. You have many sensitive electronics running your HVAC systems not to mention other usual devices such as tvs and computers. I made that mistake buying a good deal generator only to realize that I needed another small inverter generator for our electronics running on a separate circuit. Hope this helps and thanks for great video content. Bob O.
Aye yo Jesse been waiting for this segment of the vid to drop man glad it's here..one of the most technical and well explained vids on RU-vid as well as your camera work and angles which is impeccable... BTW love the open chilled out music fireflies by Ryan Farish bro I even downloaded it for my ringtone lol
This is awesome !!! Thank you for the “details”. You saved a ton of money by doing most of it yourself , but still I can see how this setup will pay for itself with its efficiency. Thanks again I was looking forward to this one.
Thanx for the walk thru.let us know how it all performs..and your evalustion of costs - usage of electricity and overall opinions...THANX AGAIN FOR THIS SHORT COURSE....
thats brilliant jess, as an ex hvacr engineer you've explaid it all perfectly great to see its working as you expected it to, very fitting hungry, planning all the fittings you may require is very difficult when ive done big systems ive way over ordered so you have options, in and out of the buffer tank 2 male / female swept 90,s would have helped, there is no point in having o c d when doing big piping jobs, are you recovering heat from your out going vents ?, air handle's up stairs I love heat exchanges there is so much wasted heat in every property people pay in electricity to get rid of heat so they can pay to put it back in , a tight 90 degree bend can add as much as 6 foot of pipe length but when its pushed and pulled in a closed system very little difference, commissioning and tuning a system is so enjoyable seeing your expectations come to fruition,
Great to see it's working well. When you eventually make a follow up video please discuss the things you'd do differently if you were to go back and start again. Also good to hear you talking about the future solar project, so I'm curious to see if you'll use a static system, or one of those tracking systems that you installed for customers (the one with the large concrete bases)
It's actually common to use a water-to-water heat pump to provide on-demand domestic hot water with an indirect tank. The desuperheater is a smaller heat exchanger that isn't reversed with the reversing valve and works just as well in the winter (anytime the system is running, so not on-demand DHW), but takes from the tonnage the main heat exchanger can provide as the compressor is the limiting factor.
I just want to share my 20 years of geothermal heating/cooling system experience... I have a two floors house with a double garage... Approx 2000square feet total... I heat and cool the house and the garage... My house is very old and have basic isolation and "need to be change" windows... Temperature range here in Québec Canada are from -22F to 88F... When really cold i have a 10kw electric element to help the geothermal system... My system is water to air... First heatpump last 17 years, the second one that i curently using is very more efficient with variable speed fan and compressor... My electricity bill for all the house (3 peoples) is a average of 185$/month... The full installation including digging the well cost me 15k$ in 2003... in 2020 just changing the heatpump cost me 15k$... If you have question !! 🙂
Back then You did not have a choice. Now anybody can buy and install air to air heat pump working down -22, for money I save by doing it by myself I will install solar panels. My plan should bring my total electric and heating bill down to $0
Keep building your empire, it’ll pay off. I don’t think folks appreciate the resiliency of your system, but hopefully more exposure will lower the complexity shock. Great job
Wow I love watching you .Is there anything you can’t do.I like the way you take time to talk about what your doing Does pat work for you .Is he a relative ,you guys work well together.Thank you so much for making my day interesting I have learned so much by watching you take care Jesse
Love these videos and you're right, no one has done anything like this with such great details! I would love to see a line diagram of the system. I think I got it but it would be very helpful
Great video, great system, love it. I have a floor heating system too, mine uses gas heater. I was considering switching to heat pump (air/water) to be able to also cool the floor in the summer, I know, weird idea, but I don't like blowing air. One big downside that deterred me was what you asked Eric about - switching from cooling (floors) into heating water throughout the day, actually multiple times. In my case the pipes to the unit (outside the house) would take so much water, that it was almost like heating another tank altogether in order to even start warming up the actual water tank. In your case, seems to me your temperature sensor on your water tank will cause this cooling-to-heating switch every time your water gets to 102F and that can happen many times per summer day I would think. Maybe you need 2 temperature sensors - one in the middle of the tank to start the heating and one at the bottom to stop the heating? That way the heating would only start when you used half of the hot water in your tank. Or, a dumber solution would be to schedule the heating your water in a fix times 2 times a day.
The home system that is connected to the internet is also subject to tampering. California was giving Nests to homeowners free for a reason. When they would experience brown/black outs the Power Company was going into your system and changing the cooling limits to reduce the load on the system. Crazy. People had no idea why their temps were setback until it was revealed by local media. So if in doubt. Just unplug it from the router and set it manually.
Just watched a 2 hour and 14 minute video showing how crazy expensive it is to heat the pound in the winter to keep the fish warm and cool it in the summer so they feel cool but the craziest thing of all is the utility company and the State of New York is giving him $8000 to do it. God Bless America!
It is the opposite. It cools the pond in the winter and heats it in the summer. But most importantly, it heats and cools my house for a fraction of what any other heating/cooling system would. It has been working really good and cost me about $2 a day to heat my house and my domestic water together. Cant beat thay
Idea for ya... I know it's too late, but just spitballing here: Why not run your domestic hot water supply through the buffer tank instead? Keep your system at 100* when heating, then preheat your water by running it through the heat exchanger on the buffer tank. Now your water heater only has to bring the temperature from 80* up to 110* (guessing here). In the summer your buffer tank will be much colder, but likely still warmer than well water. In this configuration you could run your heat pump at whatever temperature is most efficient, and you wouldn't need an additional pump.
I use that buffer tank for cooling in the summer. I have actually been using it for a few weeks now. But also, with what you described, I would need another heat source to heat up the domestic the rest of the way. Right now my geo unit does everything flawlessly
very very impressive buy holy crap that is a lot of failure point's and thing's that can go wrong especially with the electrical side.. we all know how reliable electronics in heating systems are.... and the amount of pipe's ......
over in my neck of the woods you only find pex for in floor heating. what you do find is layered pipe, that has a layer of aluminium sandwiched between pex. this is usually installed with o-ringed crimp fittings. it behaves more like bendable pipe than a hose like pex, but it can make fairly intricate bends by hand without putting force on the fittings. the crimping tool can be expensive, but the fittings are usually a couple bucks for a butt joint or elbow, and you don't usually need many of them because the pipe can usually be formed enough to not need splicing. only real downside is that pulling it through a conduit or something can be a pain, and it doesn't deal well with confined spacing, but for what i've seen, neither does pex
any concerns about Legionella growing in your hot water tank from having the temp under the recommended 120*? I have no idea how big the concern should be, but it might be something to keep in mind.
120°F will take many, many hours to kill legionella. Maybe a day. It should be warmer than that. But 110°F is right in the breeding temperature and is a problem.
Hi Jesse, we love to follow your video's from our home in Portugal. We are also building a geothermal installation and going through your video's over and over.... do you already have an update how the system performed during winter? Greatings from 2 dutch followers 😊😊
i guess im just old .. but i was always taught to keep it simple ... there is so many things that can (and probley will) go wrong with that system its scary i wish you the best .. but i fear that whole thing is going to come back to bite you time and time again.. great vid!!
One thing that probably would have been a good idea, Would be to add a floor drain in that room. It would be a lot harder to add it now then if you were to add it during the initial construction but either way it would be nice to have esp if a pipe burst
Great system, just imagine supporting it with some solar panels to pre-heat the pond loop or the water tanks, it would cut down energy consumption even more! And withe the rebate numbers, as you said, in a few years it's all paid and you'll making money out of it! 👍👍👍
@@jmuller86 He's obviously very good at what he does. The purging could have been easier. I typically didn't purge until everything was hooked up which saves a ton of time and frustration. His flush cart looked pretty old school, the tanks I used made air locking impossible. You have a super efficient system that will pay for itself pretty quickly.
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere, or hear you mention it in either this or the previous video .. Is this a continuously-circulating hot water system?-- Newer homes sometimes do this so that you don't have to wait for hot water, the hot water is continuously flowing in a loop throughout the building, so the pipes are always full of hot water.. No turning on the tap and waiting. If you haven't done this, now would be a good time and it would be a somewhat small amount of changes and new hardware to install, basically just a return line from all taps back to the tank. It DOES mean that a pump is always running, however.. So it's something to consider if you're going for extreme energy-efficiency.
Sure is more labor, complexity, hardware expense however radiant heat is constant, used in only premium housing and is quieter than forced air. I found water filled PEX is very freeze resistant because water in under 30lb pressure.
germans plumbers banging there head while seeing this mess. it's a good idea to make a plan with such a big install. nevertheless, that's some great hard work and a great video as always.
NIce video. Questioning if you have large enough piping from the geo unit to the buffer tank? One thing our water furnace dealer has been pushing is to use copper piping equivalent to the connection fittings that come on the unit. Having this piping smaller causes excess pressure on the compressor which can cause pre-mature compressor failure over time.
1" HePex is what I used, the ports on the unit are only 1". do you see that on installs? I could see maybe if you were trying to push 130 degrees out of the unit but this is only 90
@jmuller86 I'd ask your tech. He will know and is really who you should trust. My concern is the inner diameter of 1" pex is quite a bit less than 1" copper. Also pex fittings reduce flow again vs copper where the fittings fit over the pipe, not in it like pex fittings do. With low temp systems the piping gets bigger, not smaller as it takes more flow to move the same number of BTU's at that lower water temp. Love your system. Installing a 6 ton combo (forced air and hydronic) unit myself in a couple weeks. Hopefully it works out as well as your has.
Makes me nervous to have an expensive piece of electronics down low and also exposed in the case of any pipe leaks and possible resultant spray. Have you thought of putting a deflection shroud around it? Hind sight is always good but I am thinking a mount with the geothermal unit up a foot or so off the floor would be beneficial. I think your basement is ground access so a flood is not likely but if it is not then it would be even more important.
