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We're back with another switch panel installation. The panel here has built in resettable fuses making it a great option for any boat. It was purchased from Amazon and wired into the Pontoon Stuff wiring harness. Follow these steps to get your switch panel wired in to have your electronics working properly. We will cover the Pontoon Stuff switch panel installations as soon as they have them back in stock on their website.
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@bomerfett3836
@bomerfett3836 3 месяца назад
I totally didn't need 99% of this information, but I watched the whole thing because it was that good. Well done. Straight to the point, no extra blah blah, no crazy attempts at weird editing. Kept me engage the whole time. Thank you. Great video.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 3 месяца назад
Honestly the best comment/compliment I could hope for! We're always striving to find the balance between informational videos and entertaining to appeal to everyone. Thanks for watching.
@Electronzap
@Electronzap 23 дня назад
Nice demo, I haven't come across one with the fuses accessible from the front of the panel, definitely what I'd want to buy for a serious project.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 21 день назад
They tend to switch up the models of panels constantly so it can be hard to find this identical panel, but it'll be similar.
@cedaroakfarm8596
@cedaroakfarm8596 9 месяцев назад
Good video, I'm wiring up a Kubota RTV XG850 for work lights, LED frame lights and a rear accessory plug in circuit. and I purchased the switch box from Amazon. This video is exceptionally helpful in so many ways. I installed a new fuse panel with a 40W reset CB, using 8GA wire at the battery that has a disconnect switch built in to the fuse panel. Like you I do not want anything "on" when not in use but go through a switch. Perfect instruction thanks.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 9 месяцев назад
So glad it was helpful, and I love hearing that our videos are helping folks with this sort of stuff outside of the marine world too! Thanks for sharing and for the kind words!
@johng30
@johng30 Год назад
Your videos are so helpful for the DIY guys. Thank you very much!!!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
That’s what I’m here for, happy to help. Thanks for watching!
@jesseayers7933
@jesseayers7933 Год назад
you just made rewiring my pontoon rebuild a whole lot easier.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Good!!! That’s what we’re hoping to do with our videos. Definitely look at the wiring harness from Pontoon Stuff too. It makes wiring a whole boat so much easier
@jamesglavich1426
@jamesglavich1426 Год назад
Great video. I purchased a couple of switch panels to make a new instrument panel for my airboat. The panels have the switches and fuses like these. You didn't mention, but I noticed on my panels, they all start from the right side switch is 15 amp, 10 amp, then 5 amp to the left, so you need to pick your circuits according to load. Both, the four and five switch panels have a 15, 10, and the rest are 5 amp, the eight switch panels have 2 separate hot feeds, but same 15, 10, and 5 amp.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Great observation!!! I’ve seen most marine fuse and switch panels have 5 or 10 amp fuses/breakers, so most accessories will be ok. 15 amp is certainly high for a lot of accessories though and worth noting!
@buddcee
@buddcee 3 месяца назад
Using your info for my camper van, same difference. Good info, Thanks
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 3 месяца назад
Absolutely! 12V DC is the same in both applications. My friend's brand new camper van uses a ton of the same Nilight switches and lights that we've used on boats.
@richardlombardo9368
@richardlombardo9368 Месяц назад
For two years now, I have been restoring a pontoon from the deck up. I could never have done this without the help of your fantastic and informative videos. I've watched this particular one at least ten times. Thank you so much..!! However, I do have one issue. My horn stopped working and Everything looks perfect, so I'm kind of at a loss. Any ideas?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing that and for watching the channel throughout your project! If a breaker isn't popped on the switch panel (or a fuse if you ran fuses under the helm) then your horn likely just quit on you. They're quite temperamental especially when exposed to water. I try to hide them up on top of pontoons behind a crossmember, or even under the helm or under a front seat. You could remove the horn and test it independently on a battery just touching the positive and negative wires to the battery....be careful, it's loud if you're holding it right next to you!!!
@tkboylan3223
@tkboylan3223 Год назад
Fantastic video! Im retiring my 22 deep V and you explain very well. Ty
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
GREAT! Thanks for watching, and best of luck on your project!
@charliemurphy9022
@charliemurphy9022 Год назад
Ok you go your own route with cutting wire, just makes a beginner like me more confused than I already am....
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Dang it!! I’m trying to make these as simple as possible. Which part are you referring to where I cut wires (time stamp wise)? And did you watch the whole thing through to see where each wire ends up going to a switch?
@davidcobb4527
@davidcobb4527 Год назад
Morning Tom, Very cool panel. Wish I had seen this before I ordered mine. Cest la vie (French for “oh well”). But being the ADD person I am, I would align all those lock nuts on the those fuses. Jus’ sayin’….😂👍🏻
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Most panels are super similar to this one, so hopefully this is still helpful (or our other switch panel videos). Haha, the lock nuts!! That made me laugh!!!
@Tex_Track
@Tex_Track Год назад
yea it was the sketchers forsure. lol funny thank you guys for this video!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Thanks for watching!!
@peace4peaceful
@peace4peaceful 8 месяцев назад
Good vid. What was yhe difference between the switch you took out and the horn one you put in? Looked identical to me barr the horn icon.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 8 месяцев назад
Thank you, and thanks for watching. The Horn switch is a momentary on/off switch, where it's spring loaded to turn off as soon as it's released. The rest of the switches are a on/off switch where they stay on, like a typical switch for keeping power to an accessory like lights, stereo, etc.
@Andrico77
@Andrico77 Год назад
I think it’s supposed to be wired when nav lights are turned on, the picture light on the switch lights up so you can view at night. When the switch is turned on then bar lights up to indicate switch is active.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
I’m sure you’re right, for the bottom light to be a courtesy light…but staying on all the time doesn’t always work, like if you don’t want a battery switch. I find there’s usually enough light with the gauges and such lighting up the dash that it’s easy to find the switch you’re looking for. Best part is it can be used either way!!
@bignoodle2265
@bignoodle2265 Год назад
That's an awesome video. Im sold!!! Just recarpeted my Beer Budget Boat and im going to do just what you did. Tanx
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Gotta love that a pontoon boat can be a luxury item to some folks and a budget item to the next…and both can enjoy the heck out of their boats just the same!
@garymoxley4300
@garymoxley4300 4 месяца назад
Very informative. Thank you for sharing your experience!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 4 месяца назад
Happy to help!!!
@travisclosser7368
@travisclosser7368 Год назад
Hello! In the video at 5:50 you cut off the ends of the harness and put on your own connectors. Why did you do that? Why can't you use the ends that come on the harness for connecting? Thanks!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
The connectors that come with the harness are butt connectors for connecting wire to wire. I added spade connectors to attach each of those wires to the switches themselves. The female spade connector slides onto the male portion on the back of the switches. Plus I prefer to always use heat shrink connectors to prevent any moisture from getting at the wires.
@anicetomaldonado
@anicetomaldonado Год назад
The only thing I noticed about your stereo install. That yellow wire should have gone to the battery side of the panel. It keeps the stereo presets and clock and if equipped, the eq. (Good info for the people who want the stations and eq settings from resetting to default)
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Believe it or not a lot of the new bluetooth stereos don't have a clock or at least it doesn't show up on the typical screens you'd see when using it (at least from my experience). But yes, that yellow wire gives that "memory function". I avoided it early on because so many of my customers complain that the older stereos have battery draw down issues when direct-wired...some stay on even though the face looks like it's off. Old habit to keep batteries from dying I guess!
@topan5091
@topan5091 Месяц назад
Excellent video!!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Месяц назад
Thanks! And thank you for watching.
@faronmastin8683
@faronmastin8683 5 месяцев назад
This wiring harness is so simple to hook up once you get it run to were it goes which might not be as easy. lol
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 5 месяцев назад
Not so fun crawling under the boat with the spiders and passing it along through the pontoon brackets??
@faronmastin8683
@faronmastin8683 5 месяцев назад
@@tomspontoons Mine had the sides on top of the toons so I couldn't even get my hands in the openings.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 5 месяцев назад
@@faronmastin8683been there before!!!
@randyerickson9616
@randyerickson9616 Год назад
Does this panel not require a separate fuse box? Seems like that would make hookup a little easier. I appreciate your videos and all the info you provide.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
I need to do another video showing a fuse block option with this panel too. This one has the resettable protection built in for each accessory, so truly no need for an additional fuse block unless someone wanted overkill protection. This is the “keep it simple superstar” way to go!
@allsports2334
@allsports2334 5 месяцев назад
Do all power accessories need to be grounded back to the switch panel? Or can you run a power wire to the panel and ground to another location?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 5 месяцев назад
Essentially yes. You could ground them to the battery directly or a ground buss bar under the helm or at the battery. I strongly advise against grounding to the frame of the boat as I have only heard of it causing problems with electrolysis and battery draw. I prefer to run power and ground from the battery to the helm, and then working in my accessory power and grounds to the switch panel or a ground buss bar located nearby. You could just ground the switch panel ground wire to the buss bar, stack on all your accessory grounds, and have a 10 gauge ground wire running back to the battery. Then just plug your positive accessory leads onto the switches and you're good to go!
@davidcobb4527
@davidcobb4527 7 месяцев назад
Morning Tom, watching your video again, and I have a question. I’ld like to install a couple more chargers, one on either side of the front seats, on the arm rests. Now do I just join the respective wires, pos and neg x2, and run a length of wire from those charger wires up front, to that same charger wire at the panel? In other words can I piggy back the 3 chargers to the one switch on the panel? Cheers once again my friend…
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 месяцев назад
Check the amp draw on your chargers and what the breaker can hold at the panel....I would think you're going to be just fine as I think most of those USB chargers are 2.5 amp, and most breakers are 10 to 15 amps on those panels. And as long as they're hooked to a breaker you'll have some insurance that you won't fry the chargers or phones.
@WarrenPenner
@WarrenPenner 8 дней назад
Are those female spade connectors going to the pre-wired switches tinned copper or aluminum? I've had several experiences where they ship those panels with aluminum spade connectors that bend easily and come loose if the wire gets tugged. Thoughts?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 дней назад
I actually have no idea what comes on the prewired stuff. I use tinned copper from my connector kits (available on my website). They’re stuck on there really well though. Like sometimes they’re a pain to pull off when rearranging stuff!
@toupsclassroomtoupsclassro9557
@toupsclassroomtoupsclassro9557 4 месяца назад
question: Expert Job! I'm installing one on my console like yours and I do not have a cover over top...............can you think of a way I can cover this panel when boat is in storage? do they make a cover that can over the switches as a whole? ty
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 4 месяца назад
I've not seen anything that would work to do what you're after. I highly recommend covering the entire console with a waterproof cover...even a grill cover if need be!
@toupsclassroomtoupsclassro9557
@toupsclassroomtoupsclassro9557 4 месяца назад
great idea thanks@@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 4 месяца назад
@@toupsclassroomtoupsclassro9557 Happy to help!
@peterparsons7141
@peterparsons7141 2 месяца назад
She always asks the same question before getting me to attempt anything sketchy! “Is the insurance paid up?”
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 2 месяца назад
Haha! I’m always told I’m fired before I hit the ground!!!
@boylesterminalshops6841
@boylesterminalshops6841 5 месяцев назад
Out of curiosity, how do you keep the stereo from losing memory and resetting?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 5 месяцев назад
I'm never a big fan of running memory wires to batteries because a lot of boats are used so intermittently that I fear battery draw. However, with these new bluetooth stereos no one is really using the AM/FM features, and the stereo automatically reconnects to whoever was connected last....not sure how it remembers that, but it does! I've done it that way with my boats and all my customers' boats and everyone has been happy.
@richardlombardo9368
@richardlombardo9368 Месяц назад
@@tomspontoons Like computers and laptops, the stereo receiver probably has a little coin-style battery inside that keeps the memory. The draw from those little coin batteries is super-minimal.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Месяц назад
@@richardlombardo9368 I wouldn't doubt that one bit!
@carolinacoins
@carolinacoins 8 месяцев назад
I hate it when my feet go to sleep like that. I'm older than you so it don't take long for mine to get really numb.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 8 месяцев назад
Haha, it's the worst, and so hard to avoid sometimes!
@adaminjp
@adaminjp 7 месяцев назад
Hi Tom. If I have a fused distribution block that I run all my negatives and positives to do I need to keep all the positive wires from the switches in the switch panel the same length going to the distribution block or does it not matter?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 месяцев назад
I would have no concerns with them being different lengths. If you want to play it safe simply run 14 gauge from the switch to the panel if some runs are fairly long. Going with a thicker gauge wire will allow proper flow of power. Typically your accessories and lights are going to be quite low draw so normally 16 gauge would be used, but can't hurt to bump it to 14 gauge. Additionally, I can't imagine they'd be drastically different lengths on most console setups so again not highly concerning.
@adaminjp
@adaminjp 7 месяцев назад
Awesome thanks for the confirmation. I was planning to use some existing ancor 14guage marine wire that I had so seems like I will be set.@@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 месяцев назад
@@adaminjp You'll be well-covered with 14 gauge!
@terripearson3777
@terripearson3777 Год назад
Have a link to those wiring harnesses? Appreciate your videos! We’re rebuilding our pontoon and your videos have been most helpful!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
It’s from PontoonStuff.com , just search harness in the website search. Use TOMSTOONS to save at checkout.
@wayneenglish1612
@wayneenglish1612 Год назад
I am still having a little bit of I have only one red and1 black you have two black and to read I have the same panel
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Double check that an additional red and black aren't tucked into the bundle of wires that go to the switches. Sometimes I have to go dig them out. If not, you'll have to email me a photo of the back so I can see what you're working with. I've ordered these panels a few weeks apart and have had different versions shipped to me that are slightly different...even when clicking "re-order" on Amazon! TomsPontoons@gmail.com
@jamesbutler181
@jamesbutler181 11 месяцев назад
Great video; very informative. I am undertaking a similar project. What are you using for bluetooth stereo?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching! I mostly use the Deckmate Bluetooth stereo from Pontoon Stuff. It's got great sound and is easy to use. Otherwise I usually install the different Garmin Fusion head units. They're great quality and are simple to use. If I'm adding an amp and sub I go with the Garmin. If I'm keeping it a simple four stereo no amp setup I do the Deckmate.
@reynoldsautorepair173
@reynoldsautorepair173 Год назад
Where can I get that radio
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
That’s the Deckmate Bluetooth stereo from PontoonStuff.com. Use TOMSTOONS at checkout to save 5%!
@Advtexas
@Advtexas Год назад
Question about the negative wires coming off accessories, would the negatives be connected to a buss block since we are not going to a fuze panel? Essentially red/power goes from accessory to switch panel and then the negatives would run to a buss block? I’ve got a 3 switch that I’m replacing with this exact 6 switch. Believe the current switches will be easy to unplug and plug in but the radio and lighting I’ll be adding I want to make sure I get set up correctly. Thanks for the help and videos.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
In this case the negatives are tied into the panel from the harness without a buss block. You could definitely run a buss block for the accessory grounds that makes its way to the switch panel, but it's sort of an extra unnecessary step...unless you've already got that negative buss block that you can tie into easily. In the end it's just making sure that each accessory gets tied into the ground and the power to the switch. You'll be just fine I'm sure!
@Advtexas
@Advtexas Год назад
Right on. I don’t have one so I’ll negate that and just find spots to tie into. I think I can get it figured out. Have the radio coming in today so will get started tomorrow. Thanks for the help! While I don’t have a pontoon I do find yalls videos very helpful.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
@@Advtexas awesome, glad our videos are helping all sorts of boat owners out. It’s all so similar when it comes to wiring and outboard rigging!
@eagle5720
@eagle5720 6 месяцев назад
Why didn't just connect the switch lights on the output side of the switch so it only comes on with you turn the switch on.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 6 месяцев назад
Could have, but it already has a light that turns on when you flip the switch on.
@eagle5720
@eagle5720 6 месяцев назад
@@tomspontoons I realized that at the end of the video
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 6 месяцев назад
@@eagle5720 There's usually more than one way to do things. I just demonstrate how I go about it.
@eagle5720
@eagle5720 6 месяцев назад
I want to install one of those rocker switch panel but I'm scared to cut a big ass hole in my dash.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 6 месяцев назад
@@eagle5720 For these panels I make a cardboard template based off the measurements the switches take up...hoping to cut as small of a hole as possible. It'll look good and clean when you get it done!!
@claytongrose2022
@claytongrose2022 Год назад
Just subscribed. Love your videos. Do I need to run a switch to my fish finder/gps? Or can I leave this on all the time? Already have plans for the 6th switch for courtesy lights. Thanks
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
You can tie direct to the battery or a battery switch for those…just gotta remember to shut them off!! I often tie them to the same switch as things like stereo or chargers which all have pretty low draw. Thanks for watching!!
@lukedavis6668
@lukedavis6668 Год назад
What gauge wire should I run from the battery to the main power to this panel?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Most accessory harnesses I’ve seen are around 10 or 12 gauge range for the power and ground to the panel. Better to have thicker gauge than too light for power flow!
@J.W.W.
@J.W.W. 11 месяцев назад
You size your feed wire based on the protection fuse or breaker at the battery and how long the feed wire is. There’s charts online that show what gauge wire you need for 1: the breaker size and 2: the wire length.
@Baystateboy125
@Baystateboy125 Год назад
Probably already stated, but those buttons you called “Fuses” are called Breakers. Fuses are a one-time use item. Breakers are reset and reactivated.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Correct! I’m always learning the technical terms for all sorts of stuff!! Thanks!
@beomaster100
@beomaster100 6 месяцев назад
I´m a bit confused. Now there is only one positive lead coming from the battery which is piggy backed for each switch. If the first circuit breaker blows, all other five switches will be out of power, right?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 6 месяцев назад
Correct with one positive coming in, but that positive jumps across all of the breakers BEFORE the breaker. So there's always power going to each of the piggy backed wires no matter if a breaker trips. The positive going from the breaker to the switch would lose power if the breaker trips. This make sense?
@dirtmcguirt6118
@dirtmcguirt6118 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the great video man! Can the breakers be switched out on this panel to the appropriate amp required for each Load?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 4 месяца назад
The breakers are different amp ratings on the panels usually, and you can simply remove them and reinstall them wherever you want on the panel to make them line up where you want them for switch order you'd like.
@dirtmcguirt6118
@dirtmcguirt6118 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the response. Looks like there are a few 5amp, 10amp and 15amp breakers that come installed. My issue is that most of my accessories are below 5amp draw so I would be putting some of the lower amp accessories in danger by using the higher amp breakers that come on the switch panel. Do you know if there are lower amp breakers that I can buy to replace the 10 and 15amp breakers that come with the switch panel? Replacement breakers that fit this switch panel?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 4 месяца назад
I think they’re pretty universal in terms of breakers. Worst case you could put a lower power inline fuse in coming off the switch to the accessory to protect it.
@eagle5720
@eagle5720 6 месяцев назад
A ground buss bar would make more sense
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 6 месяцев назад
Agreed. It would simplify things, but also add in a layer which may intimidate some people working on wiring for the first time. I picture most folks installing this panel as buying just the panel and hoping to tackle the project in some free time on a weekend without spending a fortune. I will likely eventually do a similar video showing a ground buss bar, and show one in a recent full wiring tutorial video.
@ZenRacingForza
@ZenRacingForza Год назад
You need to learn the motto my wife and I coined… N.I.F.S. Nothing Is Fucking Simple Lol
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Haha, TRUTH! Our commonly used term around the shop is "there's always something..."
@adrians2763
@adrians2763 16 дней назад
The panel didn’t last me two hours
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 16 дней назад
I've not had it be a problem on the dozens I've installed. How was the panel grounded, and are you in saltwater or freshwater?
@vicesparis
@vicesparis Год назад
Very naice joob
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Thank you!! And thanks for watching.
@BuenoToob
@BuenoToob Год назад
Interestingly, my PontoonStuff harness came with male ends for the harness and pigtail. Frustrating! Convenience factor missed. 😜😂 Or, am I an idiot?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Hm, I haven’t run into that! Email me a picture of what you’re working with so I can try to help or get it corrected with my contacts at Pontoon Stuff. TomsPontoons@gmail.com
@fidiusjwhoopie
@fidiusjwhoopie Год назад
wife is hilarious
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
She’s great!
@adrians2763
@adrians2763 16 дней назад
Corroded the first minute
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 16 дней назад
I’ve only had good luck with them so far. Are you in saltwater? What did you ground to? Frame of the boat or only to the battery ground post? They tend to change the design and details of these often, unfortunately that’ll probably sway the quality too.
@barneyboyce-r2v
@barneyboyce-r2v Год назад
I love your videos. This walked me through everything I needed and when I pushed the button on the horn and got sound and checked the lights and saw light, I was so happy. You simplify everything and your time doing this is greatly appreciated by so many people. thanks.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Fantastic!! So glad you found my stuff helpful!! Thanks for watching.
@danemmerich6775
@danemmerich6775 11 месяцев назад
Great informational video. I have the same Switch panel I am using for my Overlander DIY camper. So basically 18gauge wire is good for hooking the components up? I had a roll of 14 gauge wire, so i used that. Is it still ok to use the 18 gauge for completing the hook up, or should I use 14 Gauge like I started with.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 11 месяцев назад
I run 16 gauge to most accessories on longer runs. For low draw stuff like LEDs 18 gauge is definitely fine, unless you’ve got a bunch of them on the same run from the switch. The safest bet is to stay thicker wire to keep flow of power going strong.
@karikunzmann5293
@karikunzmann5293 2 месяца назад
I have this same toggle panel is there anyway to run the lights to a switch on this particular one so they are not on all the time
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 2 месяца назад
Watch at the 3:19 mark. Quick and easy way to get rid of the lights on all the time. Or for a switch or to power on with your nav lights just jump a power to that chain of powers that I cut.
@catmatiskam7092
@catmatiskam7092 8 месяцев назад
The bottom lights you can wire it to the dash or with the lights of the boat. If you want, so it's only on at night
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 8 месяцев назад
Definitely like that idea. Could even be wired into the key on power so they’re on when the motor is running and turn off when engine is off. Nav lights would work too, but wouldn’t be much help until they’re turned on!!
@catmatiskam7092
@catmatiskam7092 8 месяцев назад
@@tomspontoons yeah man, whatever you preferred. But those small lights don't draw much power, is only like 1-2 watts. Wired it together with the front lights or like you said when the key switch is ON. They made a mistake, cause it's not suppose to stay on.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 8 месяцев назад
​​⁠right, I’ve never seen a single switch panel with any sort of light that stays on when just hooked to the battery. It would take batteries to drain down, but most boats aren’t used daily (if weekly)
@catmatiskam7092
@catmatiskam7092 8 месяцев назад
@@tomspontoons me neither, that means something is wrong, what do you mean by bbdays?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 8 месяцев назад
@@catmatiskam7092 No idea how my phone auto-corrected "batteries" to "bbdays"!?! Sorry!
@fastasfox
@fastasfox 5 месяцев назад
The panel's off amazon etc are not brilliant if I'm being honest. I own an open topped Rib and mine 1 year later is in the Bin (garbage can). I imagine that if you have a closed helm boat, then it may last a little longer.....buy cheap buy twice.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 5 месяцев назад
I can't disagree with that...I have had issues when I installed a cheap option on a fishing boat where it wasn't sealed up well like a pontoon console. That panel would allow lights to stay on after a day out in the rain due to some sort of short from moisture. I think in the right application these can be a great option, but something that's going to be exposed to a lot of moisture you might want to make that upgrade to something built better for the elements.
@Andrew-tl2ft
@Andrew-tl2ft 4 месяца назад
How do you wire it without built in fuses
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 4 месяца назад
This has built in breakers, but when working on panels without breakers or fuses built in I run in line 10 amp fuses.
@gdj8013
@gdj8013 Год назад
Man You’ve helped me so much on my 96 Landau. I’m just getting the electrical squared away so we can use it this summer but I’ve definitely got a full restoration to do in the next couple years. Pontoons are in great shape and got a Yamaha F90 on the back so I’m good there but the decking and railing is from way back in 96 😕. Anyway this channel has definitely given me the confidence and knowledge to tackle the job soon.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
That’s the best feedback I could ever hope to get! Thanks so much for watching my channel. We will keep cranking out content and informational videos. By the time you’re tearing your boat down for a full restoration I hope we will have 500 videos up covering absolutely everything possible!!
@allisonsuski9280
@allisonsuski9280 2 месяца назад
Awesome video brother!!!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@jodycolfax7682
@jodycolfax7682 Год назад
been there done that...feet
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@joemckillop3766
@joemckillop3766 7 месяцев назад
would the ignition for outboard run through this switch panel or is that wired direct to battery?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 месяцев назад
No, the outboard is on its own ignition harness that plugs into the motor. Then the motor has its own battery cables. This is only for powering accessories like lights, basic power to stereo, and livewells/bilge pumps.
@joemckillop3766
@joemckillop3766 7 месяцев назад
@@tomspontoons thanks, yeah, now that you say it its actully pretty clear when I look at my existing wiring ... lol Thanks - probably going to use the harness from your other video on my 24 foot 1987 Grady White rewire, only have about 4 accessories/lights so should be perfect
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 месяцев назад
@@joemckillop3766 I have used that harness on a few fishing boats and it works great! I even used it on my big jet boat build last summer. Why complicate things when we can make it plug and play!?!
@richardconrad698
@richardconrad698 Год назад
looking at my current two fuse panels under the boat dash, the always on has two 7.5 fuses, and two 10's. the ignition panel has a 15 and three 10's. would this new switch panel from amazon, with built in resettable fuse, still work? the amazon product says 10 amps.... i do plan to rewire the boat in the fall/winter, but there is a lot of corrosion and things not working, so it might be ASAP....
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Most pre-made switch panels that I've seen, even those on new boats from the factory, have 10 amp fuses or breakers for all of the accessories. I think you'd be just fine with 10 amp for all electronics as I don't know of any that pull more draw to be honest...especially if you're running LEDs for lights and don't have anything major for power draw (bilges, washdown pumps, and other motorized items typically have higher draw than just basic stereo and lighting). I'd switch everything over to the 10 amp panel without a worry if it were my own boat. Your stereo and fish finder should have their own low voltage in-line fuses anyway (usually 1 to 3 amp) that would protect them if the 10amp didn't pop!
@richardconrad698
@richardconrad698 Год назад
@@tomspontoons I appreciate it, thank you! I can swap battery cells in a Prius, but this new-to-me boat has me a little nervous until i get more comfortable with it....I still have some wires to track down, so i'm curious what is on the 15A, but i'm wondering if it was a 10 that kept blowing, and this was their "fix"? the stereo isn't working, or the horn, or the bilge pump. i'm pretty sure it is due to corrosion, we shall see..... thanks again!!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
@@richardconrad698 And for me, I'll climb under a boat console and track down every wire and issue I can find...but if it's more than replacing brake pads and rotors on a car I'm not your guy! We all have stuff we're comfortable with and have spent time with, and we all have stuff that we feel like is impossible at first glance. I think you're probably right. Someone blew a fuse a few times and just upped the capacity, or I wouldn't doubt if they blew it once and only had a 15 amp fuse handy to get by. Then of course they just left it in there because things were working fine. I strongly recommend starting over with a new harness front to back, and a new switch panel. Pontoon Stuff's wiring harness is what I use on 99.9% of the boats I work on (I make my own harness when it's minimal electrical) and it saves me all sorts of time. Worth checking out!
@richardconrad698
@richardconrad698 Год назад
@@tomspontoons i just looked at your website, definitely some nice stuff, and I've been looking at more of your videos, thank you! probably a silly question, but in the above video, you are only replacing the old fuse box that are attached to the old switches, right? the always on devices would still be on a separate box with traditional fuses? or are you suggesting to put everything on a switch, since these are resettable? if so, are there any marine grade fuse panels that you'd suggest?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
@@richardconrad698 On this boat we replaced the entire electrical system removing any fuse blocks or old switches. Yes, I run the main electrical harness directly to the switch panel and the accessories straight off from it because each has its own resettable fuse/breaker. I need to do a video at some point showing a switch panel that integrates into a fuse panel, but with options like this one in the video there's just been no need. I install a lot of these as well as the switch panels from Pontoon Stuff, which also have a resettable fuse/breaker too.
@keithfowler632
@keithfowler632 Год назад
Do they make a bilge pump switch for these?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Yes, you can definitely wire in a bilge pump to one of these switches. Bilge pumps often run off of a 5 or 10 amp fuse or circuit breaker. I'd run 16 gauge wire to the bilge from the helm if I were running a bilge off this panel.
@johnhewetson4406
@johnhewetson4406 Год назад
Nice job Tom, I have used those panels as well. Just to be a nit picky nerd 😆 those are thermal circuit breakers not fuses. I really like how flexible the switches are in terms of the indicator light in them. I choose to have my running lights power up the LEDs on all switches so I can see them at night.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Thanks for the correction!! I won’t complain about someone giving me the right info! Can we say they behave like fuses by saving stuff from frying?!? I LOVE that idea to power those bottom lights from the ignition’s key on power…genius!
@davidcobb4527
@davidcobb4527 Год назад
Good idea John, thanks. Gonna try that as well.
@johnhewetson4406
@johnhewetson4406 Год назад
@@tomspontoons Hey Tom you are absolutely fine to call them fuses, re-setable fuses etc as that is very common. The term "Fuse" like many other terms (ie. rewind) has evolved past its initial definition. The nice thing about a thermal device (bi metal sensing element) is that it imitates the heating of the component it is protecting so it gives you overload protection as opposed to a fuse that is set really high and only ruptures on a short circuit. Some might argue that in the case of a short circuit the thermal device does not act fast enough but that is not the case as they are engineered such that if they see a short circuit far in excess of its rating (not something you would see if applied properly) it will rupture and interrupt the current. The thermal device also allows surges from motor loads without nuisance tripping. Of course being able to reset the breaker is a huge advantage especially when you are out on the water. In the old days when a fuse failed (sometimes just from vibration) we would wrap it in conductive cigarette paper just to get home. The down side of that is that if you left it in there you often effectively raised the rating of the fuse and opened up another can of worms. One last thing I would say about thermal breakers is that they are not all created equal. The less bi metal material the last accurate and reliable the device is. From my experience the best marine dash board breakers are the ETA 1658 series and if you crack one open you will see why. However even a less reliable brand is way better than a fuse at the end of the day. I spent 40 years in low voltage circuit protection so if you have any additional questions anytime I am sure I can help.
@johnhewetson4406
@johnhewetson4406 Год назад
@@davidcobb4527 Thanks David, you know what they say "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while", lol. Like Tom says you can either connect those LEDs such that they are activated by the ignition switch or I like to tie them to the running lights to prolong the life of the LEDs as you really only need them at night. If you have any questions about how to accomplish this don't hesitate to reach out to me. Cheers John
@davidcobb4527
@davidcobb4527 Год назад
@@johnhewetson4406 thanks for that John. Appreciate all the help I can get.
@randyharris9357
@randyharris9357 8 месяцев назад
I have twenty year old boat, I want to redo the switch’s and console, not sure what color wires are or how old panel is wired, but this helped me get an idea of
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 8 месяцев назад
Glad this was helpful. Just depends on the boat, but most of the time those colored wires running out to the accessories will follow the same color patterns. If you're redoing the console and switches I would STRONGLY recommend getting the wiring harness from Pontoon Stuff. It's $120 (less my discount code on everything you purchase there, enter TOMSTOONS at checkout) and will make your life a million times easier. Their switch panels are plug and play with their wiring harness too in case you want to make it even easier!
@ironindica7342
@ironindica7342 Год назад
Definitely needed to watch this during the middle of my rewire on my boat. I learnt that the wires on the bottom of the switches are powered and would be redundant to run to another fuse box that i ordered. The fuse box is for accessories that dont have power from the switch panel. Very informative !
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
You nailed it! If making your own harness I would run a 20 amp resettable breaker/fuse back at the battery on the positive that feeds the switch panel. Otherwise you’re spot on. Thanks for watching!!
@bethg7026
@bethg7026 Год назад
When you connected the chargers and voltsge gauge to the switch, was it one of the 15A or 5A switches?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
I believe it was connected to one of the 15 amp switches if I’m not mistaken.
@bethg7026
@bethg7026 Год назад
@@tomspontoons thanks!
@bobbydavis9618
@bobbydavis9618 Год назад
Thank you!!! I’m rewiring my Bass Tracker. And your video has really built my confidence !!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Great!! Best of luck with your project!
@jamesparrish3141
@jamesparrish3141 Год назад
Great video! We'll done, easy to follow. Your clear, precise instructions take the fear out of doing this myself.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Great! Thanks for watching. We’re just here to lend a hand. Glad it helped you out!
@Realitycheck-mqt
@Realitycheck-mqt Год назад
Great video I have a need for a similar wire harness. Could you custom make one?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
I’ve custom made them for fishing boats when it’s just a simple setup with Nav lights, interior LEDs and docking lights. This one is just so easy to use, already color coded, and plugs right into the Pontoon Stuff switch panels
@joserosario7130
@joserosario7130 Год назад
Thanks a lot because personaly i want to change my panel on my boat awsome vidio bro!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Happy to help, thanks for watching!
@UnikAutoParts
@UnikAutoParts Год назад
Will this same setup work with twin outboard engine?
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Yes, this is simply for electrical accessories. Nothing interacts with the outboards.
@jeffreyedwards1906
@jeffreyedwards1906 Год назад
you're a legend, thanks
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Just out here trying to help those tackling their projects at home! Thanks for watching!!!
@barntt
@barntt 10 месяцев назад
SAFETY FIRST ALWAYS! Rule #1 Nothing is ever EASY! Thanks
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 10 месяцев назад
Never easy, rarely quick….hoping simplifying stuff will help the folks at home!!
@Davidball795
@Davidball795 Год назад
Hey there I’ve never wired anything and I’m trying it now. The piggy back post for the nav/anchor lights, does it have a different name or could you give me an idea where I can find them? Bought a couple of different assorted garndner bender wire connector sets and they don’t have any thing like that. Thanks I really like the way you explain things 👍🏻
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
You could always splice the anchor and nav lights into one female spade connector to make it work, but the piggyback connector can be found in a variety of packs by searching “piggyback spade connector” on Amazon!
@Davidball795
@Davidball795 Год назад
@@tomspontoons thanks! I actually got it going today! I scavenged some stuff from the old wiring that I was removing and I found two of the piggy back connectors there. I wish I could include some pictures, excited how everything turned out. The previous owner had bypassed my old switch panel so none of my lights or pumps worked. Now everything works. Thanks again for your help.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
@@Davidball795 Awesome!! It seems like so many boats have had way too many people working under the console trying to make things work their way instead of just doing it all right the first time when repairing stuff...makes it way harder on us folks trying to make it right!
@jdthebluecollarconservative
Your videos are absolutely fantastic and break everything down so well for the not so tech savvy folks like me. Keep them coming as I plan to do a full restoration on my pontoon this winter!!
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Thanks for watching! Best of luck with your project. By the winter we'll hopefully have even more topics covered!!
@derricklawrence3185
@derricklawrence3185 Год назад
Question will this same concept work with a 14ft jon boat including the wire harness.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Absolutely. I’ll be using the same harness and switch panel on a fishing boat I’m building in the coming months. You’ll have some excess wire as this harness is made for boats up to 28’ long and 8.5’ wide, but that can be coiled up and tucked away no problem!
@derricklawrence3185
@derricklawrence3185 Год назад
@@tomspontoons Thank you, I will be ordering the harness. It just makes things so much easier to me. Love you videos. I'm sure you have helped a lot of people. I also just ordered the panel from Amazon today.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
@@derricklawrence3185 the harness is an every boat option for us. I hope we’re helping lots of folks tackle their projects at home each summer!!!
@lordreginaldfilibuster
@lordreginaldfilibuster Год назад
those ain't fuses if they are re-setable, they're circuit breakers.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
Correct! Someone broke it down really well in the comments as thermal circuit breakers. All good as they serve that purpose to protect the electrical system. I'm sure I'll get details/words goofed up from time to time again!
@eperry1971
@eperry1971 Год назад
I watched this one and another one you did. Awesome video. I made only one change to the wiring. I just used one switch to power on/off the whole panel this way the rest of the wiring stayed the same. But your solution was more elegant for a commercial purpose
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
The beauty of 12v wiring is that it can be made to work in so many ways. There are some "wrong" ways, but following the basic rules will avoid them from happening!
@anicetomaldonado
@anicetomaldonado Год назад
Yeah, that was a good explanation of the modification too.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons Год назад
@@anicetomaldonado Thanks, and thanks for watching!
@jamesrahn8339
@jamesrahn8339 7 месяцев назад
I had to stop,.. those fuses are breakers, I pray to God you don't tape off anything in a marine environment due to moisture and corrosion and 3rd you definitely want your anchored light separate specifically for sitting around at night with nothing else on (overnight trips).
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching! Yep, you're correct, they are breakers here and not fuses. We're in freshwater where taping something off will do more good than harm from my decades of experience. These pontoon boats are on small inland lakes, where most of my customers don't even boat at night, but want their boat to have legal lighting. This video is made to simplify wiring for folks just starting out to gain an understanding of their switch panel and wiring, versus videos out there that go over the heads of most everyday folks who aren't familiar with boat wiring.
@jamesrahn8339
@jamesrahn8339 7 месяцев назад
@tomspontoons my apologies. Was my first time coming across your channel. In reply to what you said here, your wiring was explained very well and straightforward.
@tomspontoons
@tomspontoons 7 месяцев назад
@@jamesrahn8339all good! Comments can be super helpful for everyone reading them. Folks catch and correct stuff when I mis-speak, they add helpful info, and others they can learn from conversations here. They’re super important!
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