Instinctive Archery vs Aiming a Recurve or Longbow

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When it comes to traditional archery shooting styles, folks can sometimes get a little defensive. One sure fire way to start a fight is to get on a traditional archery forum and claim that “instinctive shooting is the best” or “aiming a longbow is far better than instinctive”.
This video explores the similarities and differences between instinctive archery and aiming methods like gap shooting and split vision shooting. We answer the questions of “what is instinctive archery”, what does it mean to aim a recurve”, and are aiming and instinctive totally separate and unique approaches to archery.
I have several other videos that teach you how to aim a recurve bow. This isn’t one of them. Here, we are simply explaining why you might want to shoot one way vs the other. Another great resource that I mention in the video is the Master’s of the Barebow video series from Traditional Vision Quest. Thanks to those guys for allowing me to use some of their footage in this video.
In the end, I think you’ll see that shooting a bow instinctively and aiming a barebow with no sights are more similar than different. So next time someone mentions one as superior, remember that they’re just different.
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@Imperator-el4nt 3 месяца назад

I'm really pleased that you're talking about instinctive aiming. For years I felt like I had to identify myself as either instinctive or aiming shoter and I never really knew what I was. When I shoot, I pay particular attention to the overall picture. The image of the tip target and bow simply has to look right

@jared5862 4 года назад

Great video Clay. I shot instinctive for years and was pretty good at it. I killed a lot of game that way. Then about 4 or 5 years ago I lost my shot. I have no idea why for sure. I blame it on my aging eyes and perhaps my eye dominance trying to change as my eyes weakened which changed my sight picture. I struggled for about two seasons hunting and then got so frustrated that I hung up my Trad bows and went back to compound. On the 3 rd year I missed trad so much I knew I had to figure something out. So I poured over articles and RU-vid looking for answers. I came upon your videos and how you aim and decided to try that. I settled on kind of a form of Gap where I use my tip to aim and instinctively know where to hold for elevation. And I close my left eye (right handed shooting) which leaves no chance for a dominance fight. This has renewed my accuracy, consistency and love for the sport. I’m now back in the woods with my trad bows and loving every minute. I owe a large part of this to your videos. Thank you.

@troywesterbur706 4 года назад

I can relate. I shot instinctively for years. I put my bow away for a couple years and then picked it back up. I could barley hit paper. frustrated i looked into how to aim. It pulled my shots back together but it wasn't very good for hunting. It only worked for me at the range. I went back to instinctive and sub-conscientiously was using my arrow tip to aim at the same time. I didn't notice until I shot different arrow lengths. My shot would either be high or low depending on the length. I cut all my arrows to the same length and then it was consistent. I also noticed my broad head size made me shoot different as well. I found I was far more accurate with a larger head. There was something about being able to clearly see it without thinking about it made my shots better. So now field tips don't fly as good for me. I know that doesn't make much sense but its true. I seem to hit high with them.

@jared5862 4 года назад

Troy Westerbur I can relate. I use a brass weighted insert that’s slightly larger than the shaft itself. Not much. It’s not even noticeable until you look down the shaft. That way when I aim I’m using that insert. Not the field point or the broad head. So my aiming point of the arrow is the same no matter what is attached to it.

@troywesterbur706 4 года назад

@@jared5862 had full length shafts because I was tuning my new arrows. I was shooting low with them. I was shooting high with my old arrows. I cut them to the same length. Then was able to tune them so they all flew the same.

@oldgoat1890 4 года назад

@@troywesterbur706 Makes no sense to me. If the arrows are longer you will hold at the same length length anyway.

@troywesterbur706 4 года назад

@@oldgoat1890 yes your draw length is always the same. But if your shafts are longer you hold different when holding on target. Yes I know you shouldn't. But your mind makes you compensate without thinking about it. If you aim with your arrow tip you are going to aim lower if you use a site window and shaft it shouldn't effect you. But it does. You just don't realize you are doing it. I by no means am i saying that I am that great. If i don't shoot all the time my bad habits all come right back.

@Jwrll 4 года назад

This is probably the best explanation of this that I've heard. This is how I've felt forever, just hard to put into words. Good work Clay

@cindycindy4536 9 месяцев назад

Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ru-vid.comUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.

@peterlewis3038 4 года назад

Great video. How refreshing to hear someone describing the similarities of aiming and Instinctive. Good form and repeatability. Can't say any clearer than that. Thanks.

@craigphillips-1 Год назад

You do a GREAT job with your videos. I've watched HUNDREDS of archery videos but just found yours and subscribed. I've watched a few so far and learned something new in each! Thanks.

@guidodominguez2423 4 года назад

Are you aware that this might be the best video about this subject? As someone who tried the most instinctive way of shooting and now moving to something like gap I couldn't agree more with you. Great video!

@cmissinspections 4 года назад

Thanks for doing such a great job articulating the subtle differences in some of the more common approaches to barebow shooting. Your definitions, at least from my perspective, are spot on. i have used the term "gap-stinctive" for years when questioned by others about my aiming method. I am excited to see your upcoming video on split vision. keep up the good work.

@offthearrowshelf 4 года назад

Have to say this is one of the best breakdowns and description of instinctive and aimed differences or rather similarities. As a coach and trainer of future archery coaches I think I'm going to reference this in the future. Also going to link to it from my archery site. Thanks for producing it.

@senseipaans 4 года назад

Great video. It explains the different ways of shooting in a LOGICAL way

@johnnemec2077 4 года назад

Excellent video...You explained in a very straightforward way the key concepts to consistent shooting. I’ve been down the path you described of instinctive, gap and even sight pins. I ended up with my arrow point and an instinctive “gap” much like you describe....my accuracy has never been better! We all continue to learn Thank you!

@isaactyson4618 4 года назад

Thank you Clay! This is an important concept. Great job breaking it down.

@leonardcontarino7940 Год назад

Thank you Clay for the clarification. I am looking to start shooting again this is going to help me out a lot. I will be watching more of you videos

@donniewillis2926 4 года назад

Wow, what an insight. I can't wait until you do a more in-depth look at split vision. This made a lot of sense to me and I am sure to watch it several times in the coming days.

@midnightmodder 4 года назад

Hah! I discovered on my own, shooting at targets in the dark a couple years ago! Also from a crouched position with one knee on the ground! I thought it was something that would sound crazy to most people! Really enjoyed this video! Fantastic!

@effortlesschange Год назад

What a shot man, and the follow proves your mastery. Impressed me!

@scottsanders9090 4 года назад

Very nice approach in addressing an often times sensitive subject.

@marks8437 2 года назад

OMG, this, sir, is one fine video. It is a true pleasure to hear your insights. You are a great teacher, thanks for the channel.

@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад

Thanks Mark

@drrejimathew3919 4 года назад

Thanks Clay,you have explained it very well.Totally agree with you.

@efxanim8tor 4 года назад

Clay - great topic! Whooo-hooo, glad someone is giving a proper perspective to the notion of instinctive vs aiming. I think you broke it down well, it's really defining what "Instinctive is" and what your brain needs to process to properly make consistent shots with tight groupings at any yardage. I would love to see a more in-depth discussion on "training our brains" to operate with "subconscious effectiveness" I think some good parallels might be found in things like martial arts and/or ball room dancing. I am an artist and one of the most basic things you learn in art school is training your hand to do what your eye sees. I find this parallel in archery to be much the same. I focus on ~ letting my brain, train my body, doing what my eye sees. Looking forward to the Howard Hill split vision video!

@petarpetalarev8297 4 года назад

Love the video! I'm really sick of those online comments: "trad archery has to be instinctive"; "it's not instinctive, it's intuitive"; "instinctive is subconscious gap, change my mind"... I'd rather spend more time in shooting arrows, than arguing online about how I shoot them!

@CERBERUS300ify 4 года назад

If u can remove your mind from the aiming and shooting process u can hit that target every time.

@mattfavaloro350 4 года назад

So you're problem is with nomenclature doesn't matter what it is called as long as we know what we're talkin about. Let's say that we are friends although I doubt we would be and we had agreed can we talk when I say up I mean down when I say left I mean right and vice versa when you talk to me up is down left is right you might sound stupid to others as long as we know we're talking about what does it matter what we call it and yeah you should probably practice more if you're talking about you need to you need to stay ready so you don't have to get ready sound corny until you think about it there are those that need to get ready for a hunting season and there are those that a hunting season has come and that's the only thing that has changed I have not had to practice get in shape I'm in shape I stay practicing

@mattfavaloro350 4 года назад

Oh and I responded to your comment before the video while the video had started running but I was reading he's at the part where he is defining what he means when he says certain words so you are a fucking moron

@petarpetalarev8297 4 года назад

@@mattfavaloro350 Thanks man! You are polite and kind. Your parents taught you well :)

@meat-hook 4 года назад

Practice makes progress. It's exactly like boxing/martial arts. The first punch is crap. The thousandth punch is acceptable. Do it right ten thousand times, and you have the basics down.

@wangdu9 4 месяца назад

"You may not be focusing on these things, but you can see them." That is a brilliant way to explain how instinctive and aiming are inherently integrated. It's more of a choice about what you explicitly, consciously, bring into your awareness. Bravo, Clay. For a rank beginner like me, this video is incredibly helpful. But judging by the comments, it's great for many experienced archers as well.

@adamredden587 4 года назад

I'm just getting into this and my ego tells me that instinctive seems like the best and purest way to go. My practicality tells me that I need to use what's effective and less time consuming....we have a 2 year old 😄. Either way I'm watching all of your videos and appreciate your effort, Clay. Thank you...

@caseysmith544 2 года назад

If you do not like his version of split vison, try the more standard anchor points.

@apriliaric 4 года назад

Thanks Clay.... For yet another great video... Your teaching has really helped me a lot.....

@eddiealvarez5493 3 года назад

Outstanding job Clay! In comprehensive aiming.

@VladimirSaldes 3 года назад

Thank you. This explains a lot to me about my shooting. Great work. Nice video.

@nwprimate6416 4 года назад

Very interesting, and very well presented. Thanks for making these types of videos for us.

@smitty1hunter 4 года назад

Good video Clay. I found myself doing split vision on longer shots almost by accident. I kind of embraced it and it works well for me. For shots within 30 yards I pretty much just focus on the spot. I'm pretty sure Paul Shafer pretty much did split vision as well for longer distances and was known as being an incredible shot.

@fallrut2010 2 года назад

I have been shooting a coumpond bow for 30 years and recently brought bear break down bow. This was a terrific Vedic to watch before I start shooting. Thanks!

@tanieluidaho9052 4 года назад

Very nice video. You explained exactly what I have been thinking with different aiming types.

@ratchet_hoe 2 года назад

I think this advice applies to all sorts of fields like sports, videogames, or even art. "Aiming" with intention rather than instinction. You describe it very well.

@jimfrattaroli9 4 года назад

Great information Clay. That’s interesting about shooting in the dark. Thanks for all the videos!

@jmac6973 4 года назад

just spent a lot of time searching info about this... finally found yours. thanks. awsome content

@GrammarGal1 4 года назад

These videos are really helpful. One of the things I love about traditional archery is it's not an exact science. I shot sighted recurve for years, and it was exact, but since moving to instinctive horsebow I'm realising that it's all about what works for the individual. No use people commenting about the right and wrong way. A lot of the competitions I go to have set rules and guidelines, but when you're just shooting for your own enjoyment as far as I care, if the arrows are going where you want them to go and you're consistent, that's the right way to do it.

@bowman321123 4 года назад

Clay, great topic, and very well done. I've long considered myself an 'instinctive aimer', but this video really explains it. I have all 5 of the Masters videos, and still pull one or another out for a good refresher. I mentor high school age kids on archery, and I would like to share this with them, it explains the instinctive aiming a whole lot better than I can.

@kennypringle4580 Год назад

Thanks for the good info. I’m just now getting back into traditional archery. I bought a new Bear Montana longbow (45#) and yesterday shot my first time in 25 years. I’m paying close attention to your words of wisdom my friend. At 20 yards my first groups were relatively acceptable at 10 inches with 6 arrows. I’ll narrow that down my next time out.

@nextlevelarchery9903 4 года назад

wow Clay,i don't have words,well done,well explain to me

@GunCollector007 3 года назад

As a very new archer I can’t thank you enough for this video.

@oldaccountplsignore 3 года назад

If you've shot trap, you know what instinctive shooting is. No sights, no aiming, just target focus and letting your hands do what they already know to do.

@LukePighetti 2 года назад

No offense but that's not how professionals shoot trap

@devinbooth609 4 года назад

Omg Clay! Glad to see you again amigo. Your vids on making an osage self bow are the best! Awesome to see ya on here!

@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад

Thanks Devin

@mikkelhollnagel8199 4 года назад

Great video - solid explanations, genuine enthusiasm. Keep it up.

@lesterdumm6477 4 года назад

Like always Clay, super video! Huge point of discussion for sure.

@drewswan695 4 года назад

My uncle just got me into shooting longbow, and told me to check out your videos. Iv been a subscriber for a few months and your videos are just perfrct for me as a beginner! From the videos you do with your boys teaching them about nature and respecting what awesome resources we have to videos like this that really help build my foundation of shooting early on creating good habbits for shooting! Thanks Clay and keep up the awesome quality videos!

@clear_image_photos5477 4 года назад

Check out nusensei as well, I'm not one to like advertising in other channels but I love both channels and think you can learn alot from it as well, some Info I found on his channel that's not on here

@drewswan695 4 года назад

@@clear_image_photos5477 i appreciate the info! Thanks!

@clear_image_photos5477 4 года назад

Something else to check out are shortbows( horsebows) idk if your a hunter or not but these have less vibration in the limbs, alot lighter and smaller, making it great for hiking around with. And they look awesome lol

@JimAckermanmarketingspeaker 3 года назад

Great content Clay. You explain things better than just about anybody. I'm left handed and bought a left handed recurve bow. Then found out I was right-eyed. Rather than go buy another bow, I decided to "go instinctive". But your explanation of the split vision method makes a lot of sense. I'll be trying it out today. Thanks

@caseysmith544 2 года назад

There is two styles of split vison, one up near the eye where the split is less or the one I use that is more in traditional anchor spots of the corner of mouth to the front of ear with top finger or corner of jaw hinge with lowest finger. I do the arrow as main and target secondary, this being due to how for me at least it is easier to focus on the arrow needing to be clear to aim with better and then have the further target/object as being blurry with my eyes. I am doing split finger with one or two brass/metal nocks below arrow to help find easier by feel in low light or different sized nocks on arrows. I never liked using one above as then I feel you are locked into a specific arrow nock size.

@chrishanna4094 Год назад

Thanks for the video, great info and explanation

@americanpatriot661 4 года назад

I feel your analogy of instinctive shooting is spot on. When training your mind to shoot instinctively, you are just tapping into your natural abilities and it will come to you naturally the more you practice. It's fun and also relaxing to shoot this way. We're not thinking of distance bc we know the flight of our arrow from practice. Another excellent example of instinctive shooting is demonstrated by Paul Brunner in a old video of his. A must see to really grasp the fundamentals of instinctive shooting from a snap shooters point of view. Snap shooting takes much practice to become proficient but once mastered it's taking instinctive shooting to the next level. I don't like to use the word aiming but rather pointing like you would point your finger and raise the bow subconsciously while keeping your eye on the spot and arrow in your peripheral view. Which can be done in a fraction of a second and is called snap shooting.

@smaloneytuba85 4 года назад

Good stuff man. I’ve been arguing this with my father in law for years (he’s a way better shot than me) but now I can see how we’re both saying the same thing!

@codywilber6885 2 года назад

Took me 2 yrs to convert from compound to recurve, totally did the ‘rip it’ method for the first year. Significant accuracy improvement thanks to ur channel.

@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад

Good to hear Cody

@adamboone5472 4 года назад

I thought I was an instinctive only. Turns out I use a combination of both instinct and aiming. I also do a simple check in my mind during the shooting process that adds consistency. Step one orient my shoulders and feet. step two proper anchor for consistent sight picture. Step three check peripheral for arrow tip (I simply make sure it’s in my peripheral vision and close to the target, not necessarily aiming with it) and back tension (thanks Mr Hayes). Step four good follow thru, during and after the shot. I also cannot shoot in the dark. Lol

@dennishein2812 3 года назад

I always shot instinctively. Haven’t shot for several years due to spine problems and haven’t been able to string my bows. Been working on getting strength back. These are informative types of videos. I will tell someone how I shoot but one way doesn’t work for everyone. Gonna try it if I can get back to shooting.

@justdoinmything Год назад

Use a crossbow

@JohnSmith-mk2bw 6 месяцев назад

I wanted to ask you about your back problem.. I was having major problems with my neck and upper back.. Then I had to accept it but I couldn't shoot for like a month or two and my neck was better.. As soon as I could I started shooting again.. And there was the major net pain again... Now it's kind of often on but I know it has to do with shooting..were You experiencing upper back at neck pains?

@dennishein2812 6 месяцев назад

@@JohnSmith-mk2bw my pain was from injury (I was a diesel mechanic), I also had too much calcium in my system and it kept pinching my spinal cord. I ended up with 100% nerve block on my neck and lower back and had a double emergency surgery. I lucked out and ended up a paraplegic instead of a quadriplegic. I’ve had 9 surgeries total with 2 fusions in my neck and 2 in my lower back. They went in and chiseled most of my spine out to relieve the stenosis. With the surgeries, rehab and work I could use a walker and eventually crutches. I started going to a gym and over did it and ended up paralyzed a 2nd time. Surgery and hard work got me back to a walker around the house but a wheelchair everywhere else. I could still shoot a bow at that time but then I got nerve pain in my legs and feet that gets progressively worse. Now I am also having nerve pain in my hands and arms. They can’t find what’s causing it. The nerve pain in the arms has taken my strength and I can’t even string my #50 bows. I know my arm problems are from my neck because the worse it hurts the more my arms hurt. I would go to a doctor and see if there is anything wrong first. If not, I used to study the martial arts and the warm ups and exercises helped but I also grew up buckin bales. Good luck!

@nas4free 4 года назад

Thanks for the referral to - Vol 3 Masters of the bare bow. I really needed a method to teach myself shooting. Awesome.

@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад

it's a great resorce.

@autopeep24 2 года назад

Good video, I'm over 60, started traditional. Watched a Vid on the Push that explained gap and fixed crawl and split vision. That's when I learned I didn't no squat about archery after 40 yrs of compound shooting. Traditional is so cool, wish I would have started much earlier.

@richardanderson4916 4 года назад

Thank you. I am a new archer and your explanation really helped me out. Thanks again!

@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад

No problem

@bowhuntznj 4 года назад

Clay great video and an excellent definition of the two methods and great job explaining how they parallel each other. I think that the difference between the two methods, in my opinion, is what you pointed out with the Howard Hill example of being able to adjust based on a visual reference. A truly instinctive shooter needs to learn and it takes more than one shot to readjust, it may take a couple for the instinctive to get it dialed in. I think all things being equal, the person shooting the aiming method has a slight advantage, especially at longer distances, given the visual reference. As you pointed out consistency in form is important no matter what style of aiming you choose. Thanks for the video I really enjoyed it!

@lylekurth4142 4 года назад

Thank you Clay. I have been shooting a recurve for 46 years. I shoot in a similar fashion to what you described. I see my arrow in my peripheral vision and use that for windage. My sight picture never changes - ever. At less than 10 yards or beyond about 20 yards, I "aim" by moving my eyes up or down the target and because my sight picture is ingrained after hundreds of thousands of arrows, the arrow follows my eyes. I know I can alter my shot placement by string walking and if I want to shoot at 40 or 50 yards for the fun of it, I can use the tip of the arrow to help. But in the heat of the moment when shooting at a deer 25 yards or closer, things like string walking or face walking don't ever enter my mind. I am totally focused on the spot I want to hit and everything else becomes a blur.

@Christian-xd3vg 4 года назад

Very informative videos. Thanks!

@brucekelleher7666 4 года назад

totally agree with you Clay , I like to call it a learnt response rather than instinctive , and once I explain it to people they mostly agree with me , greetings from Down under keep up the great work looks like I am going to have time to check out more of your Videos as we go into this lock down best regards Bruce

@HuntGuy101 3 года назад

Working on a hickory stave right now thank you for the inspiration 👌👌👌👍

@richardschuerger3214 4 года назад

This is a really good discussion on instinctive aiming and "aimed archery"

@vfc1860 4 года назад

Instinctive shooting is equivilent to throwing a baseball. Same thing. Very good video exploring the crossovers between methods. Well done.

@DrGeorgeAntonios 2 года назад

Tempered, diligent video. Good work.

@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад

Thanks

@chriscarignan8571 4 года назад

I believe all the points you brought up are extreamly valid...always called out the ones who claim they are purely instinctive...the how to shoot instinctively books always messed me up bad...Nice selfie, love the arrows too, great video!

@waynestevenson9613 3 года назад

Great explanation. Thank you so much, I totally enjoy your vids! Please keep up the good work!

@clayhayeshunter 3 года назад

Glad you like them!

@michaelbolen2118 2 года назад

Excellent video, and I have seen quite a few on this subject.

@openrangelivestockguarddog4041 3 года назад

Brilliant, no effective conversation is possible, without a definition of terms.

@joshuahindle1392 4 года назад

Clay Hayes I gotta thank you. Your videos have taught me how to make an awesome bow and I practiced shooting for months and when you said to put the nock of the arrow under your pupil that hit the nail on the head now I've doubled my distance and can hit the target consistently you might not even read this but thanks bro

@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад

I’m glad I could help Joshua

@TheCapthof 4 года назад

Clay as always you are right on the money IMO. Greg from Archery 101 talks about Gap-tuative kind of a cross between Gap and instinctive, the more I practice gap the more the instinctive or the intuative part takes over. Truth is practice , practice practice and sooner or later you will become more proficient.

@CleaveMountaineering Год назад

Great points. I'd always thought instinctive meant "grip it and rip it" but this makes more sense that you still have to use consistent form.

@regaeontop 4 года назад

I 100% agree with your definitions!

@eddiep7444 4 года назад

Excellent video and very thought provoking. I've been shooting "barebow" stickbows for nearly 60 years. I debated aiming vrs. "instinctive" for years. Like you, my shooting didn't improve until I practiced perfect form, especially from the shoulders up. Holding the bow hand on target WITHOUT FAIL is critical also. I think you ended the importance of debating "aiming vrs. shooting"

@daveengstrom9250 4 года назад

This is GREAT stuff. Keep it coming!

@erichinkle5299 Год назад

Darryl is the type of guy that I love. To admit that they were wrong and just seems like someone searching for truth that was awesome and I hope that I will be more like that. 👍

@billward6478 4 года назад

Great video Clay

@kaylamarie8309 2 года назад

Very interesting video. I think I'm pretty well just using both styles subconsciously.

@toddcotterman8477 4 года назад

As usual great information. I've got a long way to go, but closer than I use to be.

@allenlewis8333 3 года назад

This helps me tremendously 🏹🎯

@tradbowyer1975 4 года назад

awesome vid as always thanks for this!

@sedulousdabbler5468 2 года назад

As a former firearms instructor, there are so many parallels with what you say here. This video, and your explanations, are truly superb. Thanks

@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад

Thanks much

@jerryleiisme 11 месяцев назад

I love bows and u love bows, since we both love bows ,I think u might be my best unknown friend, and thanks for this lovely video.

@clayhayeshunter 11 месяцев назад

😜

@lubossoltes321 4 года назад

One of the best videos on Instinctive archery I have seen ... maybe because I fully agree with all that's been said :-)

@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад

Thanks

@danilocova1054 3 года назад

Highly accurate video for all young or experienced archers from Italian arche

@carmelaonofrietti7297 3 года назад

Forse è vero! i migliori restano i pellerossa!Almeno originali!Regards dad

@wildjakessurvival 2 года назад

Clay, I wanted to tell you that I love your videos. I really appreciate the content that you put out. I love the way that you explain things. You do a really great job at it and the editing of your videos makes it feel like I am right there with you as you explain what you are doing. If you are ever in Utah look me up, I would love to chat as one bowyer to another.

@pneuamtics1 Год назад

Thanks for helping

@KDOG9720 3 года назад

I’ve found that a combo works best for me. I focus really hard on making sure my string blur is in line, then I put the arrow tip in the middle of the target and then burn a hole in the bullseye. The arrow tip blurs out of focus or even disappear from my conscious vision. When it feels good. It goes. Thanks Clay. You got me going a few years ago and traditional archery has become the passion of my life. The challenge never ends. You start with pie plate groups at 15 yards, progress to hitting the ten ring almost every time out to twenty five then start figuring out how your going to do that with the twelve ring. Your never going to shoot a perfect score with a single piece wooden bow, so the challenge never ends.Beautiful!

@clayhayeshunter 3 года назад

Excellent

@Wingman115 4 года назад

Well done Clay. I tell folks to use what works best for them.

@clayhayeshunter 4 года назад

Me too!

@Hunting4Hookers Год назад

I want to learn this with a passion!

@christopherharrison3736 3 года назад

Thank you, I just started.

@rossbielema8863 3 года назад

One of the best videos I've ever seen on shooting a traditional bow! I've shot recurves since age 6 (I'm 61) and have been moderately good at it but never had much confidence when hunting (killed many deer with a compound/sights, but never with a traditional bow). The bottom line is you want to make a quick, humane kill and don't let pride get in the way of that goal! Many traditional shooters are opposed to any method of aiming, even though many hunters in the 50s and 60s put sights on their recurves! We owe accurate, humane shooting to our quarry and for the sake of bowhunting's future, which will be decided by non-hunters!

@beauschumacher 4 года назад

Wow awesome video, very helpful

@fire_x_friction8820 4 года назад

Now that was a great video on the confusion most new trad archers have. Split vision is deffinetly my method and totally agree with what you discussed here. I just don't hold or anchor up as long as you do. For some reason when I do I lose accuracy. Not only that when practicing if I try to force it my accuracy goes to the garbage dump. Frustrating. So I go back to being me. If that all makes sense.

@GlobeHackers 3 года назад

Helpful and well stated.

@MTknives 2 года назад

Great video!

@terrysmith8714 4 года назад

Thank you. Cheers

@FrogDad556 4 года назад

Excellent! I'd highly recommend Howard Hills Shooting Method by his nephew Jerry Hill for some great 'secrets' he left out of Hunting the Hard Way. Awesome job Clay!

@MrRourk 4 года назад

The Book of Books

@msa3595 4 года назад

Great video! Thank you!!!

@ShootingUtah 2 года назад

I've always felt I get my best accuracy and precision in shooting when I've put in a bit of practice where I do aim for both left, right, and elevation. But as I get warmed up I start letting all that aiming happen in the background where I'm just a little bit conscious of it, mostly lining up left and right at the beginning of the shot cycle. Then I very much focus on the smallest thing I can on the target and my anchor and finally back tension and bam the shot goes off and it's usually pretty good. It sounds like a lot to have in your mind at once maybe to someone new but a lot of this becomes a lot like driving a car where you kind of forget that your actually driving. Things start happening in the background leaving your mind open to focus on what's needed. Yes I aim, yes a lot of my shot cycle and specific aiming is instinctive. So I've always kind of wondered how people really thought these methods were completely different. There's no way to do something without your mind automatically making reference points while doing it. I think it confuses people who are new including myself.

@stewartgaudin2023 10 месяцев назад

Very interesting video. I try and separate my styles i.e.......consciously aim when shooting Mediterranean style and instinctive when shooting thumb release on the other side with the horse bow. I try and corelate this to shooting a rifle and a shotgun. I find this helps rationalise things.

@gescodental6404 2 года назад

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@user-charlieccchong 4 года назад

Very very informative.

@hjuha19010 2 года назад

Thank you for this video. I am a new archer and just transitioned to "aiming". It is working better for me but I was confused as I saw a lot of cross-over from instinctive shooting.

@clayhayeshunter 2 года назад

You’re most welcome