Integrated Carbon Handlebars for £22 - The ultimate bargain???

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I paid £22 for my set of Toseek integrated carbon bars. So what are they like, and how do they compare to a standard aluminium bar and stem?
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A cheap set of carbon fibre bars from AliExpress or eBay can make a fantastic lightweight upgrade for your road bike, but how cheap is too cheap?
In 2019 I was browsing eBay for some bike parts and picked up picked up a set of integrated carbon handlebars from a brand called Toseek, priced at £22.67. I’ve been using them for the last 18 months on my Chinese carbon disc brake setup, and they’ve performed pretty well.
But should you get a pair, and how do they compare to a standard aluminium bar and stem, especially when it comes to comfort, the amount of flex, and the all-important weight?
Got any questions or comments, stick them below 👇 and I'll try and get back to as many of you as I can!
Toseek Handlebar Stats:
Stem length - 100mm
Width - 400mm
Reach - 89mm
Drop - 130mm
Clamp diameter - 28.6mm
Angle - 10 degrees
Weight - 331g
Timestamps:
00:00 - Start
00:44 - Sponsor segment
02:15 - Intro
04:20 - Closeup
06:59 - Weight and comparison
08:18 - Flex test
10:32 - Cable routing & design flaws
14:07 - The good stuff
15:31 - Final Thoughts
Intro roll:
Created by Dev Joshi - www.go2dev.co.uk
About Trace Velo:
I love cycling, and I love getting pro cycling kit for less. If it’s cheap, from China, and made of carbon fibre, I’m interested!
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Email:
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Please note:
With the exception of Siroko, all other products demonstrated in this video have been purchased by me, and I have no affiliation to any of the sellers or vendors shown.
In addition, I am not a professionally trained bike mechanic. There can be risks associated with using products that are unbranded, untested, or come from sources where the provenance is unknown. Please talk to a qualified bike mechanic if you are in any doubt.
In essence, be careful, do your research, and cycle safe!!!

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@benjaminstevens4468 2 года назад

Your show provides a super valuable service to the cycling community, nobody else does long term testing of lots of bargain componentry, also you have a dope steed, that anyone aside from possibly some dedicated label checkers, would call a fine bit of machinery, showing everyone that you don’t have to pay top dollar to roll hard.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Benjamin, awesome comment, thanks so much!!!! Yeah with parts like these, initial impressions are often not really enough, you have to get some decent miles on them first.

@edudutra 2 года назад

Couldn't agree more.

@stefanobellote 2 года назад

Damn even took the time to set and run flex tests!! amazing, Luke! Thanks for the content, top notch as always.. The honesty in highlighting the bad stuff and that it outweights the good stuff, this is what makes your channel one of the best around. now about those Elite Drive wheels, that's a nice carbon pattern!! it caught me off guard, first photo looked plain black but in the sun it turns into something else! Really looking forward to the review and also the gravel bike build!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Awesome, thanks Stefano! But yeah the carbon pattern on the wheels intially looks like its a bit scratched up in the pictures, but the patten is REALLY lovely in person. I'll def hightlight it more in the review!

@Toto8opus 2 года назад

Always top-notch info on your channel.

@tombreen7927 2 года назад

Have to say man what a grat channel you go into such detail and are totally honest in reviews!!!! love it

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Thanks Tom, I put loads of effort into these videos, so glad you like them!!!

@flyborgify 2 года назад

Another great video Luke, loved the little clip of MCA - keep it up!

@wanderingjuniper 2 года назад

Thanks mate, quality video as always

@ianwhiteford2060 2 года назад

Have used Toseek handlebars, the same as the ones you use on your rim brake bike, for more than 4 years with no issues. Well worth the price.

@bengarside79 2 года назад

I’m a pretty heavy rider 90kg and have the straight toseek integrated bars and like you have had no issues for 3 years.. they’re more comfortable than the aero bars on my canyon ultimate (which maybe because they’re not quite as stiff) but I’m super happy with them!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Nice, good to hear some more success stories in the comments!

@montanajones8393 2 года назад

As always, a well thought out, entertaining & thorough review. Bars can be made one piece, monocoque, which is much more costly due to separate molds for each size. Or as you said, doing it in sections which may be more cost effective for the manufacturer but both methods if done properly are equally as good because this is the same method that is used in bike manufacturing regardless of brand. I didn't go integrated but my bars are designed for STI shifters with the hole placements & seem fairly stiff. Not sure if its because they are T800 Toray vs the normal T700 used but I like them alot.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Ok great, thanks Montana! Yeah I think the theory about it being made in sections probably holds up. Anyway thanks for the comment!

@peterhans7824 2 года назад

Great Video as always. Real enjoy listening to your thoughts!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Cheers Peter!!!!

@peterdeanov753 2 года назад

Waiting for the gravel bike build video to drop soon 🥰

@cve5731 Год назад

Thanks-I just got an upgraded version from aliexpress. I think they took your input to heart, and the holes seem bigger for cabling. We shall see about the longevity, but they seem quite high value for money

@MIDB2323 2 года назад

yes yes yes - a new video from you - thank you - amazing content :)

@RegBinary 2 года назад

Yay a new Trace Velo video :D

@hisdadjames4876 2 года назад

Great, honest review. 👍 FYI, Ive bought a Toseek aero seatpost and two sets of more modern integrated bars directly from DengFu ($100). No problems whatsoever. Brilliant, in fact.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Nice, good to hear!!!

@arifazhari7598 2 года назад

Hi Luke, nice content. This is the reason for me as gravel cyclist/home mechanic. I prefer non integrated bar stem combo, easier adjustment and replacement. And i have externally cable routed modern steel gravel bike. Easy to maintain and inspect. Waiting for your gravel bike build dude.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Yeah totally fair. In fact for the gravel build, i'm going separate bar and stem... Just makes life SO much easier!

@arifazhari7598 2 года назад

@@TraceVelo another piece of advice I learned from raul luechter technique. Use stem that has large contact area AKA small hole in the steerer clamp area to reduce point loading in the steerer tube especially carbon one. Cheers. 💪💪

@hisdadjames4876 2 года назад

Agree, but the (small) weight and (significant) aero advantages are relatively compelling for a road bike. Looks great too🤗

@shrv-pro 2 года назад

Thank you for an another great episode!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@MarkBurghouwt 2 года назад

I think the darker areas might be a part where they switch to unidirectional carbon, because that will be more flexible for the shifters to be connected to it without cracking. The rest is 3k carbon which is stronger but more brittle

@jaredfink5146 2 года назад

I'm diggin those bib-shorts. Ima have to order a pair of those. Thanks for teaming up and introducing me to Siroko.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

No worries Jared! Yeah the bib shorts are great, and they look really slick too!

@sjv6598 2 года назад

I had the same issue with my toseek bars (none integrated) so ran them externally. They’ve been on the bike just over two years now without issue. The bars look really good on the bike and were a bargain at £33 posted 😬

@edpilling4955 2 года назад

Excellent Beasties drop! Cool video too

@eLpELoNdeJaPoN 2 года назад

super great video Luke!! I was aware about the flexibility of that specific AliExpress handlebars that's why I chose a different model ( TR5500) because it's scary when you're a heavy rider and put some watts in a Sprint ... All in all I really like those handlebars but don't like to be the guy who back home riding without handlebars...or in an ambulance 🚑😆 ! Muchas gracias por tu vídeo 👌

@larrygross1248 2 года назад

I've bought many (many) Toseek items, too, over the past few years. No bad experiences, so far,. Generally, I like the look and performance of their products, and find their prices very competitive.

@aarondangelo6313 2 года назад

Been waiting for a video like this.. I have been looking at those exact same bars from Aliexpress. That square profile is a definate red flag for me. Thanks for you excellent content and great videos!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Glad I could help! But yeah the square profile of the drops is such an odd design choice, makes clamping on the shifters a massive pain.

@markvonwisco7369 2 года назад

I really appreciate how objective you are about both the pros and cons of the gear you review. @16:00 Curious as to what constitutes a heavier rider. I'm about 82kg/190cm...

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Yeah fair comment, so I weigh 74kgs, and would consider myself a relatively light rider. Sounds like you are in good shape too for 190cm! But I think once you stray above the 95kg range and up, some of the super lightweight components may not be the best choices. Cycling is open to literally everyone at any size really, but when it comes to the SUPER lightweight components, riding safe is paramount, so I think it just comes down to being sensible at the end of the day.

@unbelievabilly 2 месяца назад

Im riding a carbon MTB riser (noname) on my Omnium cargo now for a year now, and it works great, there is of course flex in them especially when im climbing but it doesn't feel sketchy at all in the end it's still a very long bar (74cm). Now that im building a new project ( 29" hardtail mtb) i orderd a new Toseek riser (74cm) and i think they wont dissapoint me again. Just because its "china carbon" doesnt mean they are crap since most of the carbon products even the stuff from big brands is made in china aswell. i really enjoy your videos man thanks.

@martintin250 2 года назад

Quality video man. Just love ❤️!!! Haha! Looking forward to the gravel bike build!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

You and me both!

@KM-oh3kw 2 года назад

I agree Luke, black areas are likely two pieces epoxied together, sanded and then spayed black to cover up.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Ok nice, thanks for confirming KM!

@markwaren5048 2 года назад

your vids are the best!

@aveedub7403 2 года назад

Hi Luke another great vid, it's been a long time since the last one! Lol. Great as usual, I have the same bars and think they're pretty good. I had to slightly file the cable holes as I felt they were slightly undersized, and got rid of the sharp edges to avoid cable cuts. Cheers Buddy

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Thanks! Yeah its been a while since the last upload. Life stuff has piled up this past month, so its been difficult to carve out enough time to bash videos out. Glad you liked it though, and good to know i wasn't the only one breaking out the files for these bars 🤣

@stuartbird5139 2 года назад

Another top quality trace velo production 😎

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Cheers Stuart!!!! 🙏🙏🙏

@medwintombocon3399 2 года назад

Its been a while Luke, good to see you to a new vlog for another carbon handle bar. On the video shown, expiremental drop with weights on drops. It feel like what happened on your friends Tossek carbon handle. Snap on the middle of handle. I got news for you hehe, Now i also Got MicroNew 2x9 setup pair with Sora r3000 FD & RD. its so good and crisp, So easy to shift. Nothing to worry. Its almost been a month when i used it. Thanks for the review, now i got good Groupset.

@andypughtube 2 года назад

I have had the exact same bars for a couple of years. Mine have been absolutely fine, and they really do look great. I actualy managed to get both the brke lines and the gear cables through the original holes, but I did need to smooth out some sharp corners to do so. ie, there was a bit of needle-file action required but the holes remained the same size. The whole bike is a mix of cheap chinese carbon and Ultegra. The only things that have failed were a whole load of spoke nipples (I am quite heavy). That really turns out to be due to my "too cheap to be true "Mavic" wheels" actually being too cheap to be true... (Confirmed as bogus by Mavic, and with spoke tension literally off the scale of my meter)

@Tethysmeer 2 года назад

You will love the gravel frame, it's exceptional.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Ok great! Yeah im super excited to get it built. Might have to give it a go this weekend!

@80erinm 2 года назад

Lovely content Luke! I would think the extra flex in the carbon handlebars is not a terrible thing, allows the bars to soak up bumps a little more and smooth the ride out. Nevermind, thats exactly what you said after I posted the comment...

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

No problem! Yeah the flex is definitely a good thing, but the amount here is a little disconcerting tbh... But having said that, my set are still fine!

@maxiliciously 2 года назад

Hey Luke, as always that was a mildly entertaining and informative video, well done! But now I'm sitting here wondering what light you have there on your bike and I'm especially interested about the mount. Cheers mate!

@JuanCarlosPieschacon 2 года назад

excellent, thank you for sharing. your videos are awesome and very informative.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Glad you like them!

@IamMrDisaster 2 года назад

Carbon, in similar configuration to alloy can be stiffer and stronger. I have to round diameter carbon bars that are stiffer than the alloy bars they replaced and much lighter. However, carbon can be designed to flex which is often used to create compliance for absorption of vibrations transmitted from the road surface. For example Lauf makes a "smoothie" drop bar that does a great job of reducing vibration transmission to the hands. The bars you tested are an example of flex inherent in the design (flattened surfaces) and lack compensation for strength.

@smartnothard2400 2 года назад

Correct. When a CF pattern is not seamless, joins have been used. These joins are then ‘glued’ to the rest of the frame with black tar looking glue. The cheaper way of working with CF. Don’t worry, it’s the same story on higher end products too however they do not use joins. The outer layer is kept naked and extra layers applied to the inside of a tube or frame where the parts meet.

@alexrayner1449 2 года назад

Love the content as always. Good sense of humour mate. I’m pretty sure that carbon frame is the same as my Dolan frame and the Planet X space chicken or on one. Can’t remember which. I built a gravel bike from one from light carbon for my misses. It’s a mega bike. Less than half the price of what I payed from Dolan for my frame.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Nice, yeah i can't wait to get the gravel bike built up.... Might try it this weekend!

@miquelb7171 2 года назад

love your videooss!!!

@antoniiocaluso1071 2 года назад

Have had that bar on my Sp Roubaix. Real nice. No worries for "flex", at all. Like most drops, they could use a bit more "flat" area at the top curve-to-the-levers. Like where one's hands settle on when hold the horns. Ohhh...I build catamarans, using CF/epoxy. Not that I know what's under that black-finish, but it might be an epoxy-rich area, to reinforce the joined-parts. A black-dyed epoxy surface coat will do that. Again, about that "flex", that's a GOOD thing. If one spills, and the bars don't bend or break, but, rather "flex", it'll make the difference at getting back on the ride! Flex=Good ))) Ohhhh...no worries for your hole-widening...CF/epoxy is an amazing composite!! (wouldn't get a CF-frame, though. AL is king, for me)))

@rogergalvez3795 2 года назад

I have the triaero gravel bike same color with the Ican wheel set, panaracer gravel king 38 mm tires and Shimano GRX 800 group set. I love the bike, handling is great and very comfortable.

@veloman59 2 года назад

Got some Toseek full carbon forks on my 29 er ATB gravel bike conversion. Can't fault them, very nice :)

@jamiemarshall9262 2 года назад

I fitted a cheap toseek carbon fork to a cheap mountain bike that had a heavy rough old suntour spring fork and turned it into a fairly lightweight run around town bike and I think it's great. I'm not sure I'd recommend it on safety grounds - not knowing how consistent this cheap carbon is. Mine hasn't failed and feels really solid but others might not be so lucky

@KPong1337 2 года назад

i really watch these for the jammer intro. All the funny shit and bike stuff is like a bonus!

@jonathankirwan5757 2 года назад

Two drops is all you get... Great video again Luke - thanks!

@victoroe454 2 года назад

There are hundreds of options of integrated handlebars on aliexpress. I chose one that have like a channel on the bottom to run the cables so you don't have to pass them inside de bar. They were more expensive at 100 usd but I like them.

@caljcam 2 года назад

Luke's sweater is the perfect texture to really fuck with video compression

@peterscuba 2 года назад

I have 2 Toseek carbon handlebars both very good, I'm happy with them. My local bike shop in Thailand fitted for me so no issue for me 😁

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Ok nice, thanks for sharing! Yeah Toseek definitely have some decent stuff out there!

@aaronweigerber5313 2 года назад

Hi Luke, Great content! I actually crashed with the same exact TOSEEK handlebars on a 1k km Bike trip. They snaped at the section where it gets darker and the carbon isn't visible. Since I had 300km left, I cut them to the point, where I could reclamp my shifter on. In any event your assumption is correct: they have not been made in one mold. The drops have a cone shaped section which is pushed and glued together inside the flats, at the darkened sections. I've got pictures to show it, but I can't put them in a comment 🤷‍♂️ Btw. a UNO aluminium stem (

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Ok great, yeah a couple of people in the comments have mentioed that they were probably molded in several parts, but thanks for confirming. If you do have any pictures of the snapped bar, send them over to my email (listed in the video description), I'd be really interested to see them! And good suggestion about the UNO stem, having more adjustability is def a good thing!

@hotsubur24 2 года назад

UNO stem is good and light. I use one too

@fergusdenoon1255 2 года назад

@@TraceVelo I likely reason for them being squared, making it easier to line up the separate parts.

@johncntr4804 2 года назад

Have some similar one to these on my Scott. Been dope thus far!

@BombatGeneral 2 года назад

Hi Luke. A great methodical vid. I have had some experience working with carbon composites on yachts. Looking at the drops, the dark patches to me look as though the carbon hasn’t properly conformed to the surface of the mould (although might just be looking at a small screen!) leaving a thick layer of resin. Moulding the drops separately would be a nightmare with hours of rework to surface the joint, not ideal for a £22 set of bars so imagine they don’t do that. A concern here is that the thick resin matrix would be considered a point of failure as alone it doesn’t have much strength. (💭 I wonder what the cross section of that area looks like?). Where you filed the holes, as these bars don’t scream structural longevity, I’d be hesitant to do that, although I understand the desire. You could seal the exposed edges with a resin or similar which might help prevent stress fractures that might occur near the exposed fabric. It would be interesting if you you did a part two where you cut these in half so that we could see the internal quality, looking at the uniformity in cross section throughout the bar, looking for thin, thick bits of layup, voids from dirt or air. Although aesthetically the ripples aren’t to much of a problem they may cause imperfections and voids below them increasing risk of failure. Saying all this I’ve got a ToSeek seat post on my roadie and can’t complain 😁 Keep on keeping on Trace!

@santiagobenites 2 года назад

I'm running a pair of Toseek branded compact bars in a 38mm width on my road bike, and they're well built and solid, with no flex at all. You can't go wrong with a quality bar like that at that price.

@antonhelsgaun 2 года назад

My toseek bars were super flexy

@neilfield3229 2 года назад

Keep up the good work

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Cheers Neil!

@guitarrerist698 2 года назад

Ive had all sorts of cheap Toseek bike stuff throughout the years since maybe 2017 lol. Value for money. You dont know how great your channel is. I think you're the only cycling RU-vidr that focuses on affordable road bike stuff. Too many purists with deep pockets out there Lool

@NikFowler 2 года назад

Liked for the outro! :D

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Thanks Nik! I was exhausted by the last take... The beastie boys got me through it!

@NikFowler 2 года назад

@@TraceVelo Thank god for The Beasties!

@edmcguirk8603 2 года назад

Regarding fishing cables through carbon - it is amazingly fast to tape a small neodymium magnet to the cable and then guide it along with an external magnet. I no longer even hesitate to pull cables out and redo them. IT IS JUST TOO FAST.

@VishnuRajendranAmboo 2 года назад

Toseek and EC90 seems to have a good buy. I have a EC90 hander bar on my MTB and EC90 stem on my RB As always good reviews

@stop223 2 года назад

Since I'm kinda heavy (81kg) and use my upper body a lot while riding, especially when sprinting and climbing, I stay away from carbon on my cockpit. I run cheap aluminium handlebars with a kalloy uno stem. The setup is light and stiff enough and I feel safe while riding it. However I find myself kinda often looking at chinese carbon bars like "the one" but I try to resist because the only reason to buy them for me are the looks.. I really enjoyed your review and I'm looking forward for the senicx pr2 review. I will get the senicx pr4 soon since I want to keep my 24mm bb!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Yeah thats a sensible approach. I dont do alot of sprinting, and I try to be relatively gentle in the drops with these bars, but 81kgs is definitely not heavy dude. Tbh I think you will probably be fine as long as you are not grasping the very ends of the drops and bunny hopping with them! Also the Senicx crank has been pretty bulletproof so far, but review coming soon!

@boyacki 2 года назад

Thank you so much for making my week! I love the enthusiasm and genuine passion! My favourite video for humour and as always, the objective analysis is informative and the opinion is fair, I think! Can't wait to see the next one and if there was a "love it!" Button, I would smash it over and over!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

P Wan!!!! Awesome comment, thanks so much dude 👊

@richiejames928 2 года назад

I’ve got to say I gave Siroko a look from your recommendation and honestly I can’t fault them one bit! affordable. Really really good quality, nice looking clobber and delivered really quickly! and let’s be honest how good do these new grey bibs look!! Cheers Luke keep on keeping on!

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Cheers Richie, great to hear!!!

@carlomartinpefianco6710 2 года назад

I have toseek Carbon seatpost- 1,500 php/30 USD , drops 1,200php/ 24 USD and stem 600 php/ 12 USD. I had no problems with them, been using them for 5 years now, 3 years daily ride, crashed twice, no cracks. I've read reviews that said its a waste of money and dangerous but worked out fine for me. I was skeptical when i recieved and inspected the products because of the rough and uneven distribution of carbon sheets. it really is a gamble when buying knockoffs.

@grindeyyyyy 2 года назад

I have the brand x mtb bars and stem on my track bike, apart from a few scratches from when I went over my bars they’re amazing

@Chiby2510 2 года назад

Love your video. Wish you have XC MTB to review.

@pantherv5 2 года назад

i recently upgraded from the giant conduct system to a 105 hydraulic set up. you're absolutely correct about the internal cable routing hassle. i used the same bar as your rim brake bike. i first attempted to route the cable inside the bars, but the holes just don't line up with the shifter/lever. you really have to kink the cable so it would go into the holes. i gave up and ended up just routing the cable the old fashion way - outside/under the bar. LOL. i do love the flat surface on the bar. it provides a wider contact surface and decreases the pressure against your hand.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Yeah cabling these bars, definitely a massive pain! But what do you think of the giant conduct system??? Basically i've never used it, but im going to be installing it on the gravel bike build, so anything to watch out for, or anything i should know about?

@pantherv5 2 года назад

@@TraceVelo i think the conduct system is a great inexpensive way for folks who want to get into hydraulic brake but don't want to fork out too much money. i picked up a separate set of conduct sl and computer mount for $100US. i was also lucky to pick up a set of 105 hydraulic lever/caliber for $200US, which i installed on my giant defy. i'm planning to put the conduct sl on a velobuild frame that i got few months ago. the drawback of this system is that there aren't many stem options; you pretty much have to go with a giant contact/connect stem. i have yet to find any after market stem that has the same bolt pattern as the conduct master cylinder. the conduct set up is pretty straight forward. giant does suggest that you use compression-less housing from the lever to the master cylinder (i call it alien head, lol) to decrease any slack in the cable. i'm unsure if factory uses shifting cable, but the housing i took off had in-line strains, not spiral like the typical brake housing. one other thing you want to watch out for is the fluid port on the master cylinder. the opening is recessed so many bleeding kit fittings won't go deep enough to get a seal. i had to modify the fitting with dremel tool so it would screw all the way into the port. i also like my free stroke very short. neither 105 nor conduct gives you the option to adjust that, so i followed a video by Bike Sauce ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-thGBWhfIaB8.html and i was able to get my free stoke on 105 very short. the rotors need to be very true or you will get the rubbing. looking forward to your gravel build!!!! cheers.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

@@pantherv5 Ok amazing, thanks for the detail above! Yeah I got myself a compatible giant stem a few weeks back, but good shout on the compressionless cables! I think the kit i have came with cable outers, but good idea nonetheless. I also have a conduct specific bleed kit in the post too, so hopefully bleeding wont be too much hastle. Anyway thanks for the comment, super helpful!!!

@pantherv5 2 года назад

@@TraceVelo just curious which conduct brake do you have? the older one or the SL??

@rangersmith4652 Год назад

Interesting testing and discussion. I suspect a lot of the flex in the carbon bars is due to the asymmetric shape and the accommodation of cable runs. A round handlebar designed for external cable runs has no such needs and would not suffer from these concessions to aesthetics and supposed aerodynamic efficiency.

@chris1275cc 2 года назад

I almost have a phobia about carbon bars and stems, the thought of them snapping mid ride gives me the willies. And I know aluminium can snap too, I even have a cheapo Carbon seat post and saddle rails and the thought of one of those parts sapping and sharp bit going where the sun doesn't shine should fill me with way more dread but it doesn't. 🤷‍♂

@LuisPedroGoncalves 2 года назад

same here

@AlexStavrinides 2 года назад

I'm tempted by these............ for my turbo bike..... I'm thinking that for my bike which never leaves the turbo trainer and never on the road, these could be a nice bit of bling and if they snap while in the garage, it's a lot less carnage than out on the road.

@chris1275cc 2 года назад

@@AlexStavrinides You say that but unless you wear a helmet on the turbo things could actually be worse LOL Knowing my luck Id put my head straight through the TV I use for Zwift🤣

@galenkehler 2 года назад

@@AlexStavrinides carbon has the advantage of corrosion resistance in the trainer environment!

@iancuk 2 года назад

Bought the exact same Toseek integrated bar in mid 2020, Price was 80 USD 😂😂. Still rockin solid today.

@tornagawn 2 года назад

A gem of a channel I just found via the Sensah group set video. I’ve been following the Superstrata Indienogo ‘printed Carbon fibre bike’ for the past year or so….it has no seatpost, the original was to be ‘custom’ to numerous body measurements, now it’s just standard frame sizes….They also now say they can’t get the promised Shimano or SRAM group sets so are putting Rallex or ltwoo components on. Needless to say despite claims of already shipping bikes, nobody seems to have one…. Scam?

@chfilms7651 2 года назад

I have the cinelli ram 2, still hold up great!

@kondor4920 2 года назад

For anyone who wants to recable a handlebar, i highly recommend picking yourself up a cabling tool. You can then guide the cables from the outside with magnets. There are a couple of different ones out there but really anyone will do. I got myself a one from jagwire for 30€, it worked like a charm.

@adambrickley1119 2 года назад

Hows that work on bars? Isn't the magnet only for inner cable in the frame?

@kondor4920 2 года назад

@@adambrickley1119 you can guide the inner cable through and then you have a guide for the outer, you can just push it. There is also an adapter for di2 and hydraulic.

@englishcyclist 2 года назад

Toseek here too on some bars and seats/post and still good.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Nice, good to hear Tom!!!!

@jimmyhor78 2 года назад

Unless you are racing or sprinting all the time, some compliance in the bars can improve ride comfort for regular everyday cycling.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Yeah totally agree. For everyday riding these are awesome, it's just the level of flex at the ends of the drops, not super confidence inspiring. But its a trade-off i guess...

@jugaloo5873 2 года назад

Im sure the 'saftey feel' was greater after the filing!!

@pscoop 2 года назад

I got some "Ryet" badged integrated bars from the mighty Aliexpress (the Lexon store) for £63 total and they are great - definitely recommend them. However they now appear to be >£100. At that price not sure I wouldn't just get separate (carbon) bar and stem or look for another brand - not because the Ryet aren't good, just too rich at that price for my blood. To me that have great balance between enough flex to help smooth out the road buzz but enough stiffness to feel totally confident in any situation. Like the Toseek thay are a pain to cable up for the same reasons and because the holes all have a lip on the inside so you have to get the cable over the lip but through the hole. And that is a pain with KEB-SL cable outers (if you are using cable actuated disc brakes). In the end I had to first get a scrap of regular brake cable through, then gaffer tape that end to end with the KEB and pull through, but even then the tape kept catching on the lip so it a few goes and a *lot* of swearing to get the cable pulled through. If I were doing it again I would get a set of those files and not just widen the hole but also try to remove the lip. They also support fully integrated cabling if your frame & headset have it (mine doesn't) but I doubt that would work with KEB-SL and cable disc brakes - the corners are just too sharp and that's really only for hydraulic and di2/etap.

@Southerncyclist Год назад

Good looking bars. I want some for my Fuji. The massive wide section is a huge reason you're not getting num hands.

@andrewdeck7945 2 года назад

I am very interested in the wheel review! I'll keep an eye out for that release

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Yep, going to be an intersting one for sure!

@mdbourne 2 года назад

@@TraceVelo yeah me too! Also, any initial thoughts on that PR2 crankset? I see its on the bike.

@mickchaganis6607 2 года назад

In the process of buying a Giant Cadex 980c, I believe this one of the first mass produced carbon lugged frames for a resto mod project, I want it all carbon and 12 speed........ searched 12 speed groupset expecting Sensah then this popped up!!!! LTWOO RX 2x12 Speed for only £122.25, 2 X carbon shifters, front and rear derailleur...... you have to, you know you can't resist?

@ozmadman 2 года назад

Just to add my two Penneth. My Tooseek ones (not the integrated ones) failed after using them on just 3 rides. It was pretty bumpy and even though torqued correctly and using carbon paste the bars swivelled jn the stem on the bumps. After tightening them twice on one ride I removed them when home to find the that they had started to crack and delaminate under the stem fixing area. BTW I am only 60kgs. So take your choice but I am going back to aluminium even if they are a 100 grams or so heavier

@randellgribben9772 Год назад

i have the ' TOOK ' bars on my pinarello 65.1 for the past 4 years...no issues with them,, little hard to set up, but so far good bars..i think i paided 55 american for them 130 stem 44 weight

@BennyHubba 2 года назад

“Rest assured, every expense was spared” 😂 love the video!

@tamasdobronyi7242 2 года назад

Got the very same on my gravel build, I cheated the system and routed the brake lines through the inner hole and the shifter cable through the outer one (Sensah SRX), and it works well with quality Jagwire housing. Also I’m really heavy, over 100 kg and 190 cm but at least not the sprinter type. Flex is scary at first, and not much mileage in them yet (this is its first season), but they are solid to this day, no cracking sounds or funny behavior yet - poor quality composites tend to have sounds before they snap, if it is not from an extraordinary impact but fatigue-type failure.

@TraceVelo 2 года назад

Cabling through the outer hole... fair play! I had a go at that, but the angles where just far too tight. But if it works it works i guess!!

@davidmyers9581 2 года назад

@@TraceVelo I was going to ask why you didn't use both available holes to feed the cables through. Great channel by the way.

@fisharefriends598 2 года назад

Would love to see hambini check these out

@manow4011 2 года назад

What a channel and I'm not even that much into cycling😂

@johnnyyahoo9867 Год назад

Thanks for amazing content - you've sent me down an amazingly fun rabbit hole (bike build)... and was that a rabbit hole or black hole? As a former triathlete, I love "aero bars". I also love the concept of the "aero shaped" handlebars. Who makes a workable combo of the two together? I've heard/read that clamping on carbon can be "no bueno". Are any aero handlebars made to be fitted with aero bars (so that I can finish the build of my dream bike)? Side note: "experts" on youtube claim that aero handlebars compared to round make more difference than aero wheels. True or not, I'm sure there's some number of watts available with the aero handlebars (and I want those watts!).

@melinteradu8479 2 года назад

Square shape is easier to obtain. The dark side I gues is from the bending of the layer which overlap and loose the patern. A guess... judging from the point where they break in the video. Is related to the absobtion of the shock. The breaking occur on the place where the even interwoven carbon meet the bend where I suppose the material is more compacted due to the round shape. May be different thou. But anyway, if your lucky and stumble on a good batch, and you don't accelerate or climb in the drops (Pantani style as I do) they can last. But they look very tidy and clean on you front bike!

@robertkujawa3504 2 года назад

You can't beat the non-integrated RXL SL bars and Kalloy Uno 7 stem. Total weight: 275g. Stiff, cheap and adjustable, which you don't get with the integrated ones.

@davideastwood6365 2 года назад

Possible they use a Uni directional carbon matrix on the suggested join area as opposed to the multi axial carbon used on the rest of the handlebar

@MTBScotland Год назад

most likely molded in separate parts. Should be able to see with your endoscope inside the joins.

@bikepackingadventure7913 2 года назад

3:42 Loving the QC sticker. 😂🤣😂🤣😂 Quality is hit and miss ?? I think I’ll give them a miss as I would like to keep my face in one piece 😳😂😂

@CanonFirefly Год назад

One man's flex is another man's compliance.

@rickyracerr1 Год назад

There was a sticker on the broken handlebar right next to the failure point that said quality control. Those QC stickers don't mean s***. That's just marketing. A lot of Chinese manufacturers make garbage, a lot of them make very good stuff. The trick is to do a lot of research to find the good ones. The ones that have been around a while.

@chaics85 2 года назад

Would love to see some videos review about og evkin carbon items. They seem to be a little more expensive then to seek carbon.

@kleetorres8391 2 года назад

can you also review about cheap chinese brake pads

@Crampion 2 года назад

Flex test is definitely a hack, not a bodge. 👏

@babyrabies 2 года назад

Get those higher end UNO handlebar and stem made from 7050 alloy. Heaps better than any generic carbon and only 30g heavier than those integrated carbon ones.