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Intel announced its plans to compete with NVIDIA - namely, the H100 - in the burgeoning AI space. Its plans include a new Gaudi 3 AI accelerator card, a push for more open standards than NVLink (like ethernet), and Xeon 6 CPUs. We cover Intel's news, what we think its strategy is, and give opinions from the consumer viewpoint.
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00:00 - Intel Says Intel is Boring
01:41 - AI, AI, AI, AI, AI
03:52 - Alternatives to NVIDIA for AI
06:50 - Everybody is Gunning for NVIDIA
10:57 - Fight for Second
13:47 - Intel Gaudi 3 Accelerator
15:45 - Intel is Excited
17:33 - Xeon 6, Lunar Lake, Panther Lake
20:03 - Intel AI Software Stack
21:13 - What We Think
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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
AI-AI-oh! Thread for people who don't get the comment about 9 not being a prime number is below! If we rhyme with AI like Intel, can we eliminate the prime with Dell? Grab one of our GN15 Metal Emblem pint glasses to support our work! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-3d-emblem-glasses Watch our coverage of the NVIDIA keynote that preceded this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0_zScV_cVug.html
@brandonfrancken5955
@brandonfrancken5955 Месяц назад
@@lunarvvolf9606 why do you say that?
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Месяц назад
Thanks Steve.
@RanjakarPatel
@RanjakarPatel Месяц назад
Xcellent dancing four this man number one king four computer. Intel gr8 and wonderful four India become number one nationality. Intel mr Pet sir more xcellent and more smartly and power then AMD Lisa su, number one disgrace four all humanitarians but she try her best her branes and four this I am so proud.
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter Месяц назад
Annnals of History
@RashakantBhattachana
@RashakantBhattachana Месяц назад
@@RanjakarPatel बहुत सुन्दर कहा भाई
@renchesandsords
@renchesandsords Месяц назад
good news steve, auto captions was able to successfully transcribe "annals"
@aliahmadreal
@aliahmadreal Месяц назад
Thanks to Nvidia H100, funny
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Really?! It must have changed at some point. I checked originally and it said "ANIMALS."
@coreypetroff
@coreypetroff Месяц назад
Instant pause and rewind with cc on for me as well lol
@ravewulf
@ravewulf Месяц назад
on the other hand it messed up "Google autot transcribes" only a few words later
@matthewchandler7845
@matthewchandler7845 Месяц назад
@@GamersNexus HEHEH....SURE....
@alexmills1329
@alexmills1329 Месяц назад
I’m sorry Steve, I have not done enough acid to be prepared for this video, I’ll be right back.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Hahahaha
@elone3997
@elone3997 Месяц назад
...you've had two hours now...
@mis4vr877
@mis4vr877 Месяц назад
How's the acid
@NotUnPro
@NotUnPro Месяц назад
Last time I took acid, I took 10 tabs and experienced the ineffable disection of reality and my soul and how it relates with said reality. I have not done enough acid to be prepared for this video, I'll be right back.
@wills.5762
@wills.5762 Месяц назад
Last time I took psychedelics the code in which the universe is written was laid bare to me and I was annhilated for realizing the true nature of the simulation. I have not done enough acid to be prepared for this video, I'll be right back.
@douglasmurphy3266
@douglasmurphy3266 Месяц назад
Those 24 200Gbit Ethernet nodes would make a nice Quake server for a LAN party
@artursjoblom5142
@artursjoblom5142 19 дней назад
Fuck yeah
@TomJacobW
@TomJacobW 18 дней назад
Wanna slide in a couple cod2 rounds, too? Pls! I won’t play shotguns, i promise!!
@Powertampa
@Powertampa Месяц назад
12 seconds, 12 fucking seconds and I am already cringing to the point my dentist can smell the payday, what the actual fuck
@toufusoup
@toufusoup Месяц назад
At this point, we’re going to need a compilation of all the intros where Steve gets cut off before he can swear due to the sheer bewilderment to what was presented before him
@0Blueaura
@0Blueaura Месяц назад
the reality becomes more and more unhinged. how do we even percieve this change anymore? other than simply staring flabbergasted and waiting for appropriate time to say "what the fuck is going on" anymore? its all so hillarious
@luandoduy416
@luandoduy416 Месяц назад
Nah this is just ceo in their natural habitat. The ai just let them loose
@teekanne15
@teekanne15 Месяц назад
@@luandoduy416 CEOs were probably always a little unhinged but mostly contained by PR/HR but these days being memeable is an asset. While somebody like Steve Ballmer was a liability back in the days.
@jyubei_ichimonji
@jyubei_ichimonji Месяц назад
Hear hear! Please do that at the end of year recap.
@JK-kn9rv
@JK-kn9rv Месяц назад
"Prior decade was sort of boring" Yeah and who's fault was that?
@rj7250a
@rj7250a Месяц назад
Lugma corporation
@impy1980
@impy1980 Месяц назад
Exactly, Intel spent it sandbagging and flogging quad cores, until AMD spanked it's ass with Ryzen, and Intel panicked and had nothing in return coz it spent over a decade rinsing consumers with mediocre upgrades while they twiddled their thumbs thinking yeah we can milk this gig for another decade, instead of researching and developing anything ground breaking.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Месяц назад
AMD, for not being competitive and creating a situation where everyone else was allowed to coast.
@1centimetre
@1centimetre Месяц назад
"4 cores 4 ever" was the defining thing for their decade.
@Kane0123
@Kane0123 Месяц назад
Clearly it was all those pesky engineers who love doing “boring” and “meaningful” work. The C-suite is here to fix that!
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh Месяц назад
(Manufacturing AI and Robotics practitioner here) Machine learning in factories is good for getting actionable insight from the enormous amount of data in a smart factory... Applications like anomaly detection (is the machine ok?), explaining phenomena (what's causing bad quality?), optimisation (energy, quality, material consumption), corrections (can I add X to save the batch?). Factories often had the issue of drowning in data but not deriving enough benefits from it.. cool, we have 100gb of historical data on that electric motor but what's going on now? What's going to happen? What should happen?
@atofu9304
@atofu9304 22 дня назад
Thanks for the interesting insight!
@leakyabstraction
@leakyabstraction Месяц назад
It's quite fascinating to hear constantly about miraculously advanced AI stuff in an age when mainstream IDEs - used by the tech crowd - still often fail to correctly execute a simple refactor/rename operation. Or, to hear about upcoming advanced AI in Windows while they still couldn't even develop a properly working basic search box that could find a partial word match among the few dozen installed applications.
@squelchedotter
@squelchedotter Месяц назад
It's not for you, it's for execs who have wet dreams about replacing their workforce with technology that doesn't exist and will not exist any time soon
@PenguinCrayon269
@PenguinCrayon269 Месяц назад
jetbrains moment
@sylviam6535
@sylviam6535 24 дня назад
The US tech industry has always made money on hype. This is the latest one.
@tomwallen7271
@tomwallen7271 21 день назад
There is a good amount of 'there' there, but it's a tiny fraction of the hype. Like, yes, Gen AI CAN do a lot of things... but it shouldn't. And after the novelty, no one really wants it to.
@claudiobizama5603
@claudiobizama5603 Месяц назад
0:37 I thought the music was edited, but it was actually part of the reveal lmao
@sean8102
@sean8102 Месяц назад
I thought that as well at first. I thought "this can't actually be part of the presentation" but I underestimated them...
@B_Machine
@B_Machine Месяц назад
It seems the companies truly try to out cringe each other with this stuff.
@PrograError
@PrograError Месяц назад
@@B_Machine well... nerds be always be awkward... it's a trope for nothing.
@steviesavagery
@steviesavagery Месяц назад
@@B_Machinebrother have you seen the windows 95 reveal
@B_Machine
@B_Machine Месяц назад
@@steviesavagery no, I'll check it out! Edit: omg, that was something else!💀 They at least had genuine energy to it. It had me thinking, "hell yeah," instead of, "oh no...🤦🏻"
@Cobalt_Capacitor
@Cobalt_Capacitor Месяц назад
"Every company will be an AI company" Every time I see stuff like this I feel like John Cusack's character in 1408, living in a Kafkaesque reality.
@DavidPereiraLima123
@DavidPereiraLima123 Месяц назад
I fully agree with you, cultured man. It lowkey chills my spine.
@mohitpatel7687
@mohitpatel7687 Месяц назад
Companies will say whatever they need to in order to get Wall Street to give them money.
@Gattberserk
@Gattberserk Месяц назад
or that it is becoming a bubble, until it pop.
@d9zirable
@d9zirable Месяц назад
And when everyone's AI... no one will be
@adriendecroy7254
@adriendecroy7254 Месяц назад
Every restaurant is Taco Bell
@relucentsandman6447
@relucentsandman6447 Месяц назад
Normally I hate Pat Gelsinger, but that chip reveal was so cringy that it swung back around to me loving it. I mean I still hate him but I liked the bit.
@yousuff1
@yousuff1 Месяц назад
Good, I don't like nvidias stranglehold on multiple sectors of the industry. All we need now is a competitor to CUDA.
@theaveragecactus
@theaveragecactus Месяц назад
what about ROCM????
@uzikun
@uzikun Месяц назад
​@@theaveragecactusyoure comedic
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson
@JustSomeDinosaurPerson Месяц назад
Supposedly Microsoft is working on a consolidation layer (like they did for DLSS, FSR, etc) to help bridge the gap between CUDA, RocM and Intel's oneAPI. Take this rumor with a grain of salt though.
@AhPook
@AhPook Месяц назад
@@uzikun People said this with Zen, but here we are. Everything can improve with time, we'll just have to wait and see.
@AarshParashar
@AarshParashar Месяц назад
Yes, it's called SYCL
@ren7a8ero
@ren7a8ero Месяц назад
- How do we stitch it together? WIth glue, intel. Glue.
@herbertwalter8693
@herbertwalter8693 Месяц назад
and tape
@benc3825
@benc3825 Месяц назад
Because they use EMIB for die to die interconnects, it’s more like a sticky pad😆
@trevorbarney1796
@trevorbarney1796 Месяц назад
dont forget the Snake Oil!
@user78405
@user78405 Месяц назад
@@benc3825nope...solder metal pad vs amd short term glue that their chips gonna fall off
@serversC13nc3
@serversC13nc3 Месяц назад
and also duct tape
@tinto278
@tinto278 Месяц назад
0:47 is an Intel MMX reference from a TV ad back in the 90's... but you already knew that didn't you.
@sean8102
@sean8102 Месяц назад
Regardless I'm glad he included the clip because it's funny seeing this out of touch CEO goofily dancing while holding his product.
@surajkulkarni6868
@surajkulkarni6868 Месяц назад
Probably the most under-appreciated aspect of this channel is Steve’s sense of humor 🤣🤣 Also brilliantly covered the entire topic.
@Flor-ian
@Flor-ian Месяц назад
The “I love NVIDIA” AI song will go down in history as the tipping point in losing the race to our robot overlords
@gasracing5000
@gasracing5000 Месяц назад
15:46 Even Big Brother is losing his job to AI... Skynets plan to wipe out humanity is to make everyone unemployed. The robots are coming
@gorskorr5830
@gorskorr5830 Месяц назад
Google: correctly transcribes "annal" Also Google: incorrectly transcribes "auto"
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir Месяц назад
trillion dollar tech company, give em some slack
@Mattipedersen
@Mattipedersen Месяц назад
2:53 I too had to turn on my Closed Captioning and check, after he made that little comment 😉
@Erelyes
@Erelyes 28 дней назад
Guess they should have used AI. Oh wait
@Geffry993
@Geffry993 Месяц назад
Why at 18:51 the part where is wirtten "codename" between parenthesis shifts 1 pixel to the left?
@xpodx
@xpodx Месяц назад
Steve, I have both your drink coaster sets, was wondering if you guys are working on another set? I'll definitely buy them!
@xpodx
@xpodx Месяц назад
Maybe neon blacklight sensitive?
@SirLunchAL0t
@SirLunchAL0t Месяц назад
Had no problems with "annals", but for some reason your clearly spoken "auto transcribe" turned into "autot transcribe".
@Avendesora
@Avendesora Месяц назад
Do they use AI for it now? I don't remember there being so many spelling mistake before, but I've been seeing weird errors for a while now.
@letcreate123
@letcreate123 Месяц назад
​@@AvendesoraThat part has always been AI what are you taking about
@Avendesora
@Avendesora Месяц назад
@@letcreate123 Sorry. A modern LLM. better?
@Josecitox
@Josecitox Месяц назад
Intel has finally completely lost it LMAO
@nicknorthcutt7680
@nicknorthcutt7680 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@sean8102
@sean8102 Месяц назад
Yeah I'd say so. WTF were those clips lol. And at 0:37 at first I though GN edited in the music. But I underestimated how cringe Intel would get... And I genuinely don't know WTF is going on at 1:16. Other than it kind of has that watercolor look that you can sometimes get when running images or videos through AI upscale programs (like topaz video AI). The clips were bringing back memories of that amazingly cringe Qualcomm conference with the whole "Born Mobile" thing (Qualcomm at CES 2013). Or Konami E3 2010.
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j Месяц назад
All the companies at least indirectly do maybe, but Intel is first and directly supports occupation and terrorists. They are obviously most insane and should be boycotted
@benc3825
@benc3825 Месяц назад
This is still my favorite out of context quote from good ol’ Patty G I might even be able to beat my children with that.
@HarambeeOffical
@HarambeeOffical Месяц назад
⁠@@benc3825I feel like it’s such a rich person thing if you beat your kid with a GPU
@johnanon6938
@johnanon6938 Месяц назад
Anyone know if Gamers Nexus ever did testing on any SSD heatsinks?
@georgemateescu1416
@georgemateescu1416 Месяц назад
Hi Steve! Just a quick one... I got the evo RGB and the 140mm fans are bigger than the bracket, the 2 screws on the bottom and 2 on the top of the 3 fans are getting screwed in the air :D I love how it is presented in the demo they fit on the support :))
@HectorDomino.
@HectorDomino. Месяц назад
I remember those days when the Blue and the Green used to team up together and simply ignore the Red team. Also the days when Blue used to insult Red openly in their presentation calling them "Imitator". The table didn't only turn, it got upside down!
@TracksideViews
@TracksideViews Месяц назад
The robots will look back one day in embarrassment at how goofy they were conceived
@Aaron.Thomas
@Aaron.Thomas Месяц назад
Yes, but so did you
@robertridley-fj8zz
@robertridley-fj8zz Месяц назад
In the words of Ford Prefect; "Family is always embarrassing isn't it."
@nightshinobi3693
@nightshinobi3693 Месяц назад
goofy aah
@arudanel5542
@arudanel5542 Месяц назад
hey, all kids got to deal with emberassing Dad jokes. Good to see our robot overlords will have just as many cringey stories "Not now, Dad! I'm building a humanbeingatarium for all these meat people!"
@LordBeef
@LordBeef Месяц назад
*goofily Sorry 😂
@SE4NNNN
@SE4NNNN Месяц назад
Papas lil baby.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
PAPA'S HERE *boss music*
@grainos5
@grainos5 Месяц назад
Mr. Gelsinger I feel very uncomfortable right now.
@SpoonHurler
@SpoonHurler Месяц назад
Some sugar baby just got a new ringtone 😂
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Месяц назад
He ate Papa John's pizza.
@HyperionZero
@HyperionZero Месяц назад
@ts757arse I dislike AMD ☺️
@MickeyMishra
@MickeyMishra Месяц назад
That Intel presentation reminds me of the old 80's "Mind of Minolta" TV Ads. They were amazing back then. Seems like Intel might have a new vibe coming to it. I'm thinking it might be due to real competition from elsewhere, and some folks leading the way.
@mikelowrey1930
@mikelowrey1930 Месяц назад
GREAT video guys! Really like your work.
@mraltoid19
@mraltoid19 Месяц назад
Lisa Su looking through binoculars at Intel and nVidia fighting: "Let them fight..."
@smuggy8576
@smuggy8576 Месяц назад
"let them take over the trillion dollar industry, those fools."
@benc3825
@benc3825 Месяц назад
Yeah, Intel isn’t doing that any time soon. Losing tons of money tends to lead to having problems taking over the industry
@CliffForster
@CliffForster Месяц назад
@@benc3825 Isn't it remarkable that we live in a world where Intel is behind AMD and Nvidia in Market Cap? I never thought I'd see it.
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 Месяц назад
@@smuggy8576”Intel has depleted its supply of prime numbers.” LMAO.😂
@someguy3186
@someguy3186 Месяц назад
When Lisa Su became CEO, AMD was basically an unprofitable penny stock company with inferior products while Intel was a borderline monopoly. Since then, AMD share price has gone up over 50x and has overtaken Intel in market cap. Their CPUs now dominate gaming, and they're continually taking market share away from Intel when it comes to data centers as well. She knows what she's doing.
@electricindigoball1244
@electricindigoball1244 Месяц назад
Computer hardware marketing has officially jumped the shark. I know we used to complain that these announcements/presentations were boring but this is not what we wanted them to do instead.
@gorkskoal9315
@gorkskoal9315 Месяц назад
I also felt like I needed to wash and yell translator. Half what the presenter said was fucking acronym giberish.
@protocetid
@protocetid Месяц назад
IDK I’m kind of enjoying laughing at them
@1centimetre
@1centimetre Месяц назад
Totally agree. I like my tech announcements prefaced by developers developers developers
@gregdaweson4657
@gregdaweson4657 Месяц назад
Bruv, we going back to the blu man group Pentium days.
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI Месяц назад
On one hand, I understand that they're trying to market to people with little to none of the requisite knowledge to understand what their products do or how they work: Tech investors and corporate executives. On the other hand, why are major investment and purchasing decisions being made by people who need bright flashing lights and a live DJ to keep them entertained in presentations about cutting edge computer hardware? Why do we live in a world where this isn't a dry PowerPoint presentation going over performance data and their methodology for collecting said data?
@AlexSterk
@AlexSterk Месяц назад
Does that GPU orientation in the sponsors case not effect the heat pipes? Seems like gravity might not help the thermals
@elonwong
@elonwong Месяц назад
I love these coverages I encourage you guys to do more of these!
@1nceAnd4alls
@1nceAnd4alls Месяц назад
Pat Gelsinger is slowly transmogrifying into John McAfee, and I'm not sure how I feel about that...
@KaeYoss
@KaeYoss Месяц назад
Bah! Is he faking heart attacks to escape the feds? Is he trolling people by tweeting about his whale banging? Is he absconding to some banana republic?
@MrMolchester
@MrMolchester Месяц назад
The music and dancing reminded me of Steve Ballmer’s “DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS”
@backlogbuddies
@backlogbuddies Месяц назад
As long as he doesn't buy a house in south America we're fine
@arch1107
@arch1107 Месяц назад
i doubt pat will sell drugs, kill his neighbours and abandon country any time soon he will just keep destroying the company the same way he has been doing untill it becomes a fab only
@iCantEditBro
@iCantEditBro Месяц назад
I welcome this insanity
@mattymcmacca
@mattymcmacca Месяц назад
Old McDonald, ai, ai, ohhh
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Месяц назад
Old MacDonald's render farm, ai, AIO On this farm he had Jensen ai, AIO
@tacoswamper
@tacoswamper Месяц назад
Your editing team is hilarious. 😂
@WigneyR
@WigneyR Месяц назад
3:02 google actually was spot on accurate with the AI closed captions
@beau-urns
@beau-urns Месяц назад
If anyone can target nvidia with ai it’s Intel. Intel arc has really interesting RT and productivity on their GPUs that I didn’t expect
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Absolutely right on the media side as well.
@alexrahardjazh
@alexrahardjazh Месяц назад
Intel has the best of the best video codec hardware so far. Yet all rounder nvidia still hold the market. However nvuda must decrease the price and doing what amd do. Make some of the software open source. So the nvida will wipe the floor with intel. Other wise within 10 more years intel.will catching up with nvidia. Or even sooner if their gpu can consume far less power
@TechGuyBeau
@TechGuyBeau Месяц назад
I did a lot of testing on arc in its early days. It’s easy to dunk on them for drivers, but it’s continued to impress me on the media/productivity side . I just hope for more completion in the market
@ryanspencer6778
@ryanspencer6778 Месяц назад
RT doesn't really mean much for AI performance. However, Arc is pretty much designed for AI. The XMX that runs XeSS is an advanced matrix engine, which is what you really want for tensor operations. In a generation or two, I wouldn't be surprised to see XMX be very competitive with Nvidia's tensor cores. I don't know if AMD has anything comparable in CDNA, but they don't for RDNA and that will hold them back.
@ich3601
@ich3601 Месяц назад
NVIDIA, AMD, Intel. The competition is set up now. Let's see how the race will be going. Gaudi2 had a good price tag.
@TheFluffyKitty
@TheFluffyKitty Месяц назад
NVidia seriously needs competition
@otterformosa2968
@otterformosa2968 Месяц назад
If Baiden gives 20 billions to nVidia, and just see what happen. tsmc got only 6 billions and relocate all the best engineer from Taiwan to help up. tsmc can withstand 7.4 earthquakes. Take that, Intel.
@zerosam5541
@zerosam5541 Месяц назад
Making graphic cards is really hard it's why it's only nvidia and amd,intel
@enbe3188
@enbe3188 Месяц назад
Yes, this is why AMD is making the MI-Cards and already baking in Tops in every CPU. And they already beat Intel by lightyears. Before aiming at NVIDIA, they should try to beat AMD first, what they are not able to do right now. This is just a brainwashing show to make them look competitive in any way, but they are not.
@ted_van_loon
@ted_van_loon Месяц назад
technically seen both amd and intel already more than compete with nvidia, the problem is people just won't see that and will by defauly keep only looking at nvidia. and that is because nvidia is a marketing company, meaning they spend most of their budged on how to look good and make people think of them as great. as a result both amd and intel and broadcom and others need to provide way better value in order to even get some okay marketshare, and as a result they generally have lower marketshare making those insanely better value harder to reach. the main problem is essentially people being mentally weak, and so weak towards nvidias marketing. if people would just decide to go with nvidias competition, not only will they suddenly get a lot better due to finaly having okay marketshare and so software also being optimized for them(as in right now only nvidia receives much optimization from third parties, if intel and amd also got optimization from people(like game engines also by default optimizing for them instead of only for nvidia then amd and intel cards and such will perform much better than they do now. since hardware is one thing. drivers are one thing. first party is one thing. but third party implementation and optimization gives insane effects and is reached through marketshare. for example if a nvidia gpu is just designed poorly or has terrible drivers, all games and gameengines and most softwares will in general optimize and fix those problems caused by bad nvidia design or poor drivers. if amd or intel has a driver issue, well only rare cases do third parties optimize to get around that, as a result people think intel and amd to be somewhat poor. while in reality as a example gaudi3 currently beats the h100 with around 1.5 times while also being much cheaper and more efficient. however when things are optimized for gaudi3 as well it's potential is many times higher since it just is many times faster in actual AI performance, but most softwares are made for nvidia. and nvidia has the nasty habbit of not accepting or using new technology and instead relying on old legacy technology so their stuf looks good early on yet gets outdated rapidly. as a result big AI datacenter workloads are still designed for those legacy methods, for which nvidias hardware is also optimized. meaning that gaudi since it is not optimized for those legacy(old) things and instead for the future will right now only be around 1.5 times faster, while if AI gets more futureproofed gaudi3 will be many times better than that 1.5 times better. originally I thought they reffered to the entire board with 8 of those modules when they named the AI performance since in that case even 1 module would still be much faster than the H100 in technical performance when optimized for, but turns out it reffered to 1 such module which can help you imagine how much more powerfull than H100 it is. but it is a vicious cycle of nvidia having most marketshare, so all is optimized for nvidia, nvidia however uses very outdated methods meaning all is optimized for those outdated methods and hardware types, as a result all runs way worse than it could actually run, but if it where actually optimized properly to be more efficient and fast then nvidia gpus can no longer really run it because they where based on legacy stuf and so do not support the new stuf or barely and so since nvidia has the biggest marketshare softwares keep using those outdated methods despite it greatly increasing powerusage and reducing performance. amd and intel since they can't compete in the legacy field have to innavate and improve but they need to get adoption for such newer methods to be used and to show the world how great things are, amd tends still follow nvidia a lot in hardware, intel however seems to really push for those newer much faster and more effient methods, but again rely on adoption to get it working even close to it's potential since if all is written for legacy shit then it won't run as well on modern hardware. if many people would adopt intel and amd however, and right now especially intel then the gpu market for normal users will skyrocket since not only will the new better methods finally be widely supported, but also nvidia will be forced to actually improve their performance and value yet most people are to stupid to see even that single point
@glenmcl
@glenmcl Месяц назад
​@@enbe3188AMD will never be as good as Nvidia. That's why Nvidia are slacking.
@Momfasa
@Momfasa Месяц назад
OMG Steve! Thanks for the laughs! I needed that desperately!
@sirspate
@sirspate Месяц назад
What's with the kerning adjustment between the 'k' and 'e' in Lunar Lake at 18:50
@PlayingItWrong
@PlayingItWrong Месяц назад
Old mcdonald had a server farm 1:46
@toxy3580
@toxy3580 Месяц назад
Come on dude I thought of that first (in my mind)
@lynx1794
@lynx1794 Месяц назад
The sheer volume of cringe these companies are putting out is absolutely insane.
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... Месяц назад
A reflection of many of their customers, they are trying to cash in on the whole fanboy/celebrity thing.
@1centimetre
@1centimetre Месяц назад
That intel thing is highly likely inspired by that car idiot who put up a dancing human trying to pass it off as an innovation in robotics.
@mysticalpotato86
@mysticalpotato86 Месяц назад
@@Skobeloff... Cash in, as in people who like cringe?
@WaldemarPerezJr
@WaldemarPerezJr Месяц назад
The cringe doesn't matter. They're boomers. Only the raw untapped compute chips matter.
@cnk-fn3nr
@cnk-fn3nr Месяц назад
Companies thinking how humans act:
@MadPuPsStudio
@MadPuPsStudio Месяц назад
Hi. Have you any videos on gpu hotspots? I have a strix 4080 and hotspots hit 111c. That was during 3dmark test. It's around 85 to 100 on gaming. I been trying to find out if it's a problem. What I can see some people say it operates 105 to 110c fine but others are saying if it's that hot it needs to be re pasted or RMA back. Have any help on this subject? Thanks.
@bl2575
@bl2575 Месяц назад
The slide on Intel Gaudi 3 talks about inference and running, so it is not about training AI. The inference phase is what Chat GPT does to answer when you write some text (so, after training). AFAIK, both NVidia and Intel are behind the Groq LPU both in term of latency (time to replay in chat) and energy efficiency (and Groq is still using 14nm)... There is a huge architecture difference, the Groq has a deterministic behavior (no varying instruction latency due to cache, unordered execution...a dream for developers), embed a network switch, which as I understand provide deterministic behavior at distributed scale.
@Yeeted-115
@Yeeted-115 Месяц назад
Thanks Steve!
@Fergunator
@Fergunator Месяц назад
Back to you Steve!
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Месяц назад
What a classic 😂😂😂😂
@albertwesker2k24
@albertwesker2k24 Месяц назад
NVIDIA's music was really brainwashing because I couldn't get it out of my head for weeks.
@alexedwards6509
@alexedwards6509 Месяц назад
That's how Skynet will get us. Drive us mad with earworms.
@zivzulander
@zivzulander Месяц назад
And that was even before Udio arrived on the scene
@user-hx1ku8sp8c
@user-hx1ku8sp8c Месяц назад
great review .. keep doing these ! ps. I want to know how much does a Gaudi board cost, and how programmable is it ? We really need open standards - super fast interlink / ethernet, and an open API for ML and vector/matrix compute .. so we can write 3D games, engineering applications, and new inventions - in my case turning 2D photos into 3D models. Its great that intel is engaging in this ferocious competition.
@LCTRgames
@LCTRgames Месяц назад
Wondered if there's a video talking about all this AI stuff - maybe with Wendell? - but segueing into what all this means for GPUs and gamers too. (Do the designs of this hardware effect what home products we'll see? Are we in a silicon capacity fight with all the AI demand now? etc.)
@mattnordsell9760
@mattnordsell9760 Месяц назад
The captions show annals correctly, but Gelsinger as gelnar lol
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
Sounds like a D&D character name!
@mikfhan
@mikfhan Месяц назад
"I am become Gelnar, destroyer of Ansys!"
@sergentboucherie9813
@sergentboucherie9813 Месяц назад
Can they at least use AI to make those presentations less terrible?
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter Месяц назад
That's the thing! AI makes it WORSE!
@swayingGrass
@swayingGrass Месяц назад
I bet the AI is referencing some crappy presentation, and the generated presentation got referenced again by future AI, and so on
@JeskidoYT
@JeskidoYT Месяц назад
Imagine a tech industry without AI Engineers would get SO SO SOOO MUCH more work done
@oggilein1
@oggilein1 Месяц назад
@JeskidoYT youre saying that as if AI isnt a recent invention, people will always find ways not to get stuff done and the best inventions in tech history have mostly been on accident (if everything had gone to plan for IBM, there would be no PC compatibles like we have them today, only propriatary IBM PCs)
@1centimetre
@1centimetre Месяц назад
Nah. Good and honest presentations come from AMD.
@Zephyr-wb4vo
@Zephyr-wb4vo Месяц назад
Thanks for the video Steve
@LeDabe
@LeDabe Месяц назад
This things are important as some of what was announced will ultimately trickle down to the gaming hardware.
@marekstanicki
@marekstanicki Месяц назад
Intel: (every time they say) “A.l.” Ali G: “Ayye!”
@VenturiLife
@VenturiLife Месяц назад
A'aight (The 't' is silent)
@arudanel5542
@arudanel5542 Месяц назад
I took a drink every time Intel said "AI." Umm.. anyone got a second kidney they're not using? Maybe a liver lobe?
@FauzanARB
@FauzanARB Месяц назад
Because of that opening, I had to check that the video was not uploaded on April 1st. 😂
@slimjimjimslim5923
@slimjimjimslim5923 Месяц назад
That “papa’s little baby” 😂😂😂😂😂 and previously “thank you papa”. So much cringe 😂😂😂
@username8644
@username8644 Месяц назад
Or 1998
@thericethatsmilesback5464
@thericethatsmilesback5464 Месяц назад
One of the most concrete evidence of a higher power, was the fact that everyone who was listening to that Nvidia AI song in person wasnt convulsing like a epileptic salmon at the first note.
@BenjaminEricksen
@BenjaminEricksen Месяц назад
The Intros to GN's vids are just getting better and better 🤣🤣🤣
@RavTokomi
@RavTokomi Месяц назад
Intel is on the cutting edge of AI generated Cringe.
@OctagonalSquare
@OctagonalSquare 21 день назад
Yeah the video was pretty cringe. But I’m happy they are taking the competition seriously. The more competition the better
@scott2100
@scott2100 Месяц назад
With the number of super cuts of people repeatable saying AI, I'm surprised that the editor didn't make keynote speakers sing Old Macdonald
@Dewalt-mh1dz
@Dewalt-mh1dz Месяц назад
That lian li Case looks insane. Actually got decent space for cables.
@smoothones4170
@smoothones4170 Месяц назад
3:37 I believe you mean I'm running two power supplies. With the way graphics cards are going this maybe the future.
@Yeeted-115
@Yeeted-115 Месяц назад
Pat forgot the leather jacket lol
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... Месяц назад
a small mercy
@gittyupalice96
@gittyupalice96 Месяц назад
He hasn't unlocked that trade with the villagers yet, Pat needs to farm more cows first.
@Shane_McLachlan
@Shane_McLachlan Месяц назад
He forgor 💀
@TheDumbTake-xb6rr
@TheDumbTake-xb6rr Месяц назад
He cannot afford it😂
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... Месяц назад
@@TheDumbTake-xb6rr living down to your name
@justanotheraccounthere2014
@justanotheraccounthere2014 Месяц назад
10:57 Using Pytorch as an example is not a good one. Pytorch is a deep learning library. Its counterpart is Tensorflow and many others. It does not directly interface with GPU, instead it goes through cuda or ROCm (amd equivalent). Intel is trying to push for their open source "cuda", OneAPI, which I just checked still does not have official released PyTorch using it. Nvidia has more than 10 years of development and experience in cuda and GPU accelerated computing (not limited to deep learning). Both Intel and AMD will have a very rough uphill battle to fight.
@kazioo2
@kazioo2 Месяц назад
Nvidia's dominance in AI is not even so much CUDA, but more of the overall relentless in support and polish for everything, writing tons of custom optimized kernels for libraries etc. The whole CUDA moat in this case is more of an umbrella term for their entire ecosystem, because many of these advantages aren't technically CUDA related. Nvidia actually spent more than a decade of effort while these other companies did not.
@ErazerPT
@ErazerPT Месяц назад
IMHO, the ML frameworks is where Nvidia has a huge leg up, because they were (and have been there) for a long long time helping build them but I'll be totally honest, if Intel makes realistically good TF/PyTorch support a reality, they could cause a huge upset by simply saying "look, we have this nice card with the A750 and 64GB and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg because VRAM is cheap and Nvidia are bloodsuckers". Make them ~$600 and I'll be running out the door to buy a couple (couples) :P Much like the prisoners dilemma, the one that defects first on VRAM size/cost will totally wipe the rest for a modest time, because performance isn't really a concern if you can't event fit the model in memory to start with.
@tenand11
@tenand11 Месяц назад
मग कसं भाऊ, जमेल का Intel ला सर्व काही.. मला माझ्या घरी बसवायचं आहे AI. चल AI, हात पाय दाबुन दे. चल AI, चल AI, अद्रक टाकून चहा बनव.. अशा order ठोकणार आहे मी.
@ussul6524
@ussul6524 Месяц назад
Great, is this stock buy suggestion ?
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 29 дней назад
19:27 wait what. 🤣 That generated image.. good to see that they have humor.
@dinckelman
@dinckelman Месяц назад
This lowkey has the same energy as the Gavin Belson Box3
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Месяц назад
hahahaha
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer Месяц назад
Signature edition B=ox=3 I have only watched SV a year ago and it's a future documentary like Idiocracy. Judge is a genius.
@CrusinVK
@CrusinVK Месяц назад
lmfao :D :D Gavin Belson: "I want the signature to be BIGGER"
@g3o3d83
@g3o3d83 Месяц назад
Like these videos outside of games focus; thanks for everything you do guys.
@Appleloucious
@Appleloucious Месяц назад
Thanks Steve! One Love! Always forward, never ever backward!! ☀️☀️☀️ 💚💛❤️ 🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k Месяц назад
This video was really well done. Awesome!
@locolama
@locolama Месяц назад
Steve turning from Tech Jesus to Tech Santa.
@Roflcopter100
@Roflcopter100 Месяц назад
This tech is already dead, it just doesn't know it 🎅🎅🐱
@trousersnake1486
@trousersnake1486 Месяц назад
I'm convinced ai is safety word for cocaine
@PXAbstraction
@PXAbstraction Месяц назад
CocAIne
@kitersrefuge7353
@kitersrefuge7353 Месяц назад
Excellent content thanks.
@EA...
@EA... Месяц назад
Where is the updated case thermals list
@Xerpocalypse_
@Xerpocalypse_ Месяц назад
One would’ve hoped that AI would have replaced mundane tasks to allow people to focus more time on their hobbies, expressing themselves with art and music. Unfortunately, the AI-obsessed C-suites of modern tech companies would love to see it be quite the opposite; they want to replace the artists, the people with passion and vision, with AI models that hallucinate amalgamated images using training data that they didn’t earn. As someone who has been interested in both tech and art for a long time, the shift is both disturbing and disheartening.
@dalyxia
@dalyxia Месяц назад
Money and greed corrupts everything.
@matthewhudson6036
@matthewhudson6036 Месяц назад
I'm not sure what gave you the impression that they would be so altruistic. It's always just been about selling the product. The reason for art and music being on the forefront is simply because it was the easiest. For better or worse it's coming to replace everything, it's just a matter of how hard is it to implement in each use case.
@alexis1156
@alexis1156 Месяц назад
Let me tell you how the economy works. And how your complaints about ai literally do not matter. The cycle goes like this: new groundbreaking tech is created, that technology displaces a portion of the workforce while increasing productivity for far cheaper, new jobs are created that usually pay more than the previous jobs, the displaced workers find a new job. I want to ask you, where do you think we would be if we rejected advances in technology when it comes to the industrial or agricultural sector, because what about muh job as a farmhand? Ill tell you what would have happened, we would still be in a pre industrial society with less food, less products, less money, dying of polio or some other bs at 30. Implementing ai allows businesses to create things for cheaper, it also allows artists to be more productive, it also allows people to create more niche products at a higher standard of quality that would otherwise not be economical. In other words, before you start talking about anything, you should probably at least understand the bare minimum. Money and greed, you guys seriously think you understand anything. Let's be real here, the thing you're complaining about is "capitalism" Which just shows how narrow minded and frankly it shows how much of a dimwit you are.
@alexis1156
@alexis1156 Месяц назад
Let me tell you how the economy works. And how your complaints about ai literally do not matter. The cycle goes like this: new groundbreaking tech is created, that technology displaces a portion of the workforce while increasing productivity for far cheaper, new jobs are created that usually pay more than the previous jobs, the displaced workers find a new job. I want to ask you, where do you think we would be if we rejected advances in technology when it comes to the industrial or agricultural sector, because what about muh job as a farmhand? Ill tell you what would have happened, we would still be in a pre industrial society with less food, less products, less money, dying of polio or some other bs at 30. Implementing ai allows businesses to create things for cheaper, it also allows artists to be more productive, it also allows people to create more niche products at a higher standard of quality that would otherwise not be economical. In other words, before you start talking about anything, you should probably at least understand the bare minimum. Money and greed, you guys seriously think you understand anything. Let's be real here, the thing you're complaining about is "capitalism" Which just shows how narrow minded and frankly it shows that you're not exactly the brightest bulb. Also, ai is overvalued like hell right now, sure it's useful, but this is getting to .com levels of bubble, maybe even worse. The internet was the future, that doesn't mean that every .com was useful.
@scrittle
@scrittle Месяц назад
@@alexis1156 Brevity dude. And redirecting our complaints to Capitalism sounds like a defunct all-encompassing umbrella. There's morals in the business, when the internet was discovered it created more jobs than it destroyed for all skill-levels. When AI was developed, it sapped skill from lower workers for a small fraction of people. "That's where Capitalism comes in" keep pedalling that irrelevant retort, because AI has helped significantly less than what the media has led you to believe. Go buy shares, it's the new trend right now.
@hariskarvounis
@hariskarvounis Месяц назад
A.I....bro just tranquilize me at this point🙄
@RurouTube
@RurouTube Месяц назад
While the notes for Xeon 6 2.4x and 2.7x notes said that it was vs prior generation platforms, on Intel website they were comparing those Xeon 6 to Xeon 2nd Gen which was using Skylake architecture, so not exactly prior generation unless they were thinking that because Sierra Forest is based on E-cores which is based on Skylake thus the comparison is somewhat valid? Also they had a slide comparing Xeon 6 Granite Rapids (P-cores only) with.... Xeon 4th gen, which is using the same architecture as Alder Lake, so not exactly the previous gen (which should be 5th gen). But I guess their wording should be enough to avoid problem with false marketing since they didn't say previous generation but again, prior generation platforms. To be precise, their wording is "Based on architectural projections as of Feb. 14,2023 vs. prior generation platforms. Your result may vary." They do wrote about the comparison was with those CPUs, but it is in their written article and not on the slide itself. So basically a bit of snake oil just enough to make everything more shiny than it should.
@MINIMAN10000
@MINIMAN10000 Месяц назад
It did properly pull up "Annals" in the auto captions.
@POVwithRC
@POVwithRC Месяц назад
You gotta embrace the bore. Lean into it.
@Muppet-kz2nc
@Muppet-kz2nc Месяц назад
After watching Fallout I've learned what we really need are Super Managers so that these ai projects can continue for 200 years. 200 years of song and dance.
@JeckNoTree
@JeckNoTree Месяц назад
Pat Gelsinger has the same energy ad Dr. Lisa Su and Jensen letherjacket Huang, nice stuff.
@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster Месяц назад
Good. Not touching arc gpus or intel stock any time soon though.
@hardlyworgen71
@hardlyworgen71 Месяц назад
When the "AI" segment started I thought you were playing a clip from Ozzy's Crazy Train ("Eye Eye Eye")
@madProgenitorDeity
@madProgenitorDeity Месяц назад
There hasn't been a new Crowbcat video in awhile but this scratches some of that itch, thanks guys
@sdmedinas
@sdmedinas Месяц назад
Are you guys going to cover the Rabbit R1 Ai stuff? Small note, the LAM runs on CPU on cloud, not GPU
@hellmalm
@hellmalm Месяц назад
It's good, competition will bring innovation. I'm pretty sure this will also have spill off effects for things like gaming.
@AKK5I
@AKK5I Месяц назад
Thanks Steve, back to you Steve
@ksk31337
@ksk31337 Месяц назад
tis fo real? Great content, thanks!
@IgnacioIacobacci
@IgnacioIacobacci Месяц назад
Checking the Gaudi 3 AI white paper, the 1.5x speed up *on average* is just due to the larger memory on each card compared to the H100 (128GB vs 80GB)... There are some improvements on interconnection speed (900GB/s vs 1200 GB/s on intel) and memory bandwidth (3.35TB/s vs 12.8 TB/s) but Gauid 3 is essentially is a slower card. 1835 vs 1979 TFLOPS on BF16 AND 1835 vs 3958 TFLOPS on FP8
@masterdiscounts
@masterdiscounts Месяц назад
Thanks Steve
@returningwhisper
@returningwhisper Месяц назад
“Please pump our stock.”
@mmmhorsesteaks
@mmmhorsesteaks Месяц назад
Back to you Steve!
@tazgoth23
@tazgoth23 Месяц назад
1:24 if that’s all rendered on gaudy😮
@qtube2007
@qtube2007 Месяц назад
but Gaudi is made by tsmc. tsmc's capacity is booked by nvidia and apple. when is intel's fabs going to be able to compete, even for intel's own business?
@morghdred017
@morghdred017 Месяц назад
im sorry, but i totally lose it and start laughing uncontrollably when steve goes "WTF" on 1:37 mark XD
@al3nmicl
@al3nmicl Месяц назад
12:00 where there’s a will, there’s a way Steve
@GsrItalia
@GsrItalia Месяц назад
07:32 I remember ad campaign, "Switch", talking about openness of formats, compatible interfaces, easy to replace parts. The same "*totaly family unfriendly word*" company which is now one of the toughest and harshily defended monopolies of consumer devices and services. If you're try to gain positions, you talk about openness. If you're leading, you secure with copyright and propietary solutions. Decades changes, a-bole business practices don't.
@johnd9111
@johnd9111 Месяц назад
Hopefully any/all of these AI focused co.'s have the best security measures imagined.
@steveballmersbaldspot2.095
@steveballmersbaldspot2.095 Месяц назад
Oh yeah, no glow boy backdoors to be found.
@nerdedkyle3515
@nerdedkyle3515 Месяц назад
Love when you cover this stuff tbh I just find it all very interesting
@aboomer420
@aboomer420 Месяц назад
love that you guys can make news humorous
@eggnorman
@eggnorman Месяц назад
I feel like this conference from Intel was a true Steve Ballmer spec show, and I am excited to see more
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