Intel's Snake Oil & Completely Insane Anti-AMD Marketing

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Intel released a series of slides in a presentation attacking AMD -- and bizarrely, it was an actually publicly available presentation. The bitter, out-of-character attack reeks of the glue era of Intel. We're not sure why the company is talking about "snake oil," showing used car salesmen, and contradicting its position of "latest is best" and "latest doesn't matter" in the same deck, but it is. We were in San Francisco when this deck dropped, so we made the most of our time and wandered the streets while making a scene ranting about Intel.
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@GamersNexus 6 месяцев назад

You should check out that time that Intel forgot the name of its own products: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aFHBgb9SY1Y.html And you should consider supporting our efforts over here! store.gamersnexus.net/

@MikehMike01 6 месяцев назад

I bought an AMD video card… it was such a miserable experience that I’m never buying anything from AMD again

@polie67 6 месяцев назад

Now get to work on year end case review with overall best case before I install my new pc in an old PBR cardboard box. Ps I love you like a fat kid with a funnle cake... with longing and urgency.

@mapsofbeing5937 6 месяцев назад

throwing stones from a 14th gen house

@Skobeloff... 6 месяцев назад

@@MikehMike01I bought an AMD video card... not sure what your issue is.

@chainq68k 6 месяцев назад

@@MikehMike01 Good thing for Intel then you never tried to buy a graphics card from them yet! :)

@crowjax8855 6 месяцев назад

You know whats funny? They explain AMD's naming scheme but they dont explain their own naming scheme.

@GamersNexus 6 месяцев назад

Extremely on point

@gikigill788 6 месяцев назад

Nailed it.

@backlogbuddies 6 месяцев назад

As someone who has an Intel cpu: I don't actually understand any "scheme" AMD does. It honestly seems like their stuff is named accordingly, even if some CPUs basically are marginal step ups. It's at least really clear to understand, as someone without an AMD cpu. However modern intel is confusing as hell. I just use a lot of legacy software and single core software. I'm also still rocking Intel 9th gen

@DJdoppIer 6 месяцев назад

And Intel's naming is about to get even more confusing. smh.

@bobby0081 6 месяцев назад

Their new naming scheme is worse than the old one.

@hMint 6 месяцев назад

Probably hired a previous user benchmark employee as their head of marketing for this campaign

@auturgicflosculator2183 6 месяцев назад

🤣

@pentiumdeusex-machina4645 6 месяцев назад

You mean that site wasn't funded by them and Nvidia to begin with?

@9c27canyonzhong2 6 месяцев назад

average ubm actions

@ArmySatcomGuy 6 месяцев назад

Nicely played good sir

@DivusMagus 6 месяцев назад

My thought exactly.

@ShadowTheHellJumper 6 месяцев назад

Seeing a multi billion dollar company be this insecure about their own products gives me the confidence to speak to my major crush

@DeiLux 6 месяцев назад

You got this bro.

@YAUUN 6 месяцев назад

Go for it!

@fibrahimi 6 месяцев назад

Just major crush? What about junior crush? * fbi agents watching this conversation * 🤔🤨

@theodentherenewed4785 6 месяцев назад

Just tell us how it went.

@tablettablete186 6 месяцев назад

"The worst that shr can say is no" Edit: good luck either way

@user-py8cl8hy5e 6 месяцев назад

When AMD gives you one of those marketing engagement surveys asking where you heard about their product, Intel should be on the list of options

@ReptilezDzn 3 месяца назад

thats just good publicity, but as a fact intel systems do get steadier latencies with overclocking, for a top end system for someone that cares about steady framrates intel is still the option for them. but a answer to which side you should "be" on is totally depending on the user

@wews2047 6 месяцев назад

Intel: latest doesn't always mean better performance. Ryzen 7 5800x3d: *Agree*

@eliasroflchopper3006 6 месяцев назад

The irony is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

@erikkarjala 6 месяцев назад

Ryzen 9 59X0x3d please....

@erkinalp 6 месяцев назад

@@erikkarjala5990X3D but on AM4 pls

@HyperScorpio8688 6 месяцев назад

7800X3D laughing behind 5800X3D-chan: *Cute*

@Izanagi-Arsene 6 месяцев назад

Ryzen 9 7900x3d : Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.

@MazeFrame 6 месяцев назад

Imagine having such a good marketing department, that your marketing department is doing marketing for your competitor too.

@nowenbeadle7643 6 месяцев назад

lol 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like the marketing department needs a raise!

@erkinalp 6 месяцев назад

@@nowenbeadle7643 yeah, for working *twice*

@argiebarge7955 6 месяцев назад

Its like their marketing was done by my angry edge lord nephew.

@AronHallan 6 месяцев назад

AMD during Bulldozer era now Intel is doing the same and it's incredibly sad.

@Tuckerslam 6 месяцев назад

Their marketing boss literally came from AMD. I'm not joking.

@Luckyluckyluc 6 месяцев назад

It's so laughable when a company resorts to something like this rather than just releasing better products/lowering their prices 😹

@inkbunnybunny 6 месяцев назад

it's almost like they are shitty.

@darksidecookies2145 6 месяцев назад

Just like in court, if you can't pound the facts (prove your case) then instead pound the table (yell and scream about unfairness and other invented absurdities)

@lesassassin 6 месяцев назад

They did this in the P4 days too especially when the first AMD64s dropped into market (and verified they obliterated the P4, Xeons, etc). The opteron (for example) was so hated by Intel they saturated the market with BS claims of them overheating, etc, and you couldn't leave them without AC cooling. No one leaves servers un-cooled by AC (central, or otherwise) no matter the hardware. They didn't run much hotter than Xeons (the Opteron), and were perfectly happy at 70ish F (ambient). Every watt was better spent on the AMD64 and not only could AMD prove it, every test anyone threw at it did as well. It should have made Intel #2 (seriously it was that big of a deal). Sure Intel implemented x64, but it wasn't as good until they figured out AMD just "64bit-titized" the Athlon (well... sort of). P3s were good, and they were again: Core2 (this time we figured out how to make them go vroooooooooom x64). AMDs answer was bad ('dozers), and here we are: core 9 (23u23829837293723ure23hf 2u3hrfh23 fuh32iur823 93293ru8hf KV-KKKKKKK-N-K-PEWPEWLVL7). I think I lost my point, but I agree!

@noliebetweenus 5 месяцев назад

a low priced good product is already a better product, they're not really 2 different things

@graxxor 6 месяцев назад

I just love the Monty Pythonesque video edit. The way that this entire presentation has no visual continuity. Popping out from behind things, suddenly in your car. Suddenly in a field and back on foot. Walking towards the camera and in a later shot you’re further away from the camera. And now for something completely different…

@Roger-ic7sf 6 месяцев назад

Still better than an Intel presentation that contradicts itself multiple times.

@MrYoyo200 8 дней назад

Makes more sense than Intel's marketing...

@kekistanifreedomfighter4197 6 месяцев назад

Never underestimate a marketing team's ability to try ruining any good will that engineering and developer teams build up with customers & press.

@berenvalari 6 месяцев назад

Definitely the marketing department going off the rails here. I highly doubt any senior engineers or even the CEO would sign off on this ridiculous presentation.

@RafitoOoO 6 месяцев назад

and it's not like the engineers have that much goodwill after 14th gen anyway lol.

@Minecraftrok999 6 месяцев назад

@@berenvalaria CEO will never sign off on presentations like this, they simply do not care and do not want to see them anyways. They have different things to do

@ruukinen 6 месяцев назад

@@Minecraftrok999 For a company of the size of Intel, no. But that's a pretty strong generalization, the main job of a CEO in a startup for example is to create hype slides like this and go around getting investors. Maybe not slides like this.

@RedEyedDRAG00N 6 месяцев назад

I will never buy intel again. Not since 2017

@jackalclone1 6 месяцев назад

As both a software engineer and a gamer, I love that they think an i3 is adequate for coding tasks, while an i9 is needed for esports. So insane.

@volvot6rdesignawd702 6 месяцев назад

here at intel we tell the truth i3 for coding i9 for esports !!

@JordanSparkes 6 месяцев назад

lol, compiling any non-trivial C[++] project on an i3 doesn't sound fun, not to mention an i3 won't exactly come with 32 GB of RAM :D

@ivancillo8797 6 месяцев назад

I mean, I got my engineering degree in Computational Technology (a bit of software development, robotics, networks) with an Intel Pentium of god knows what gen and 16 GB of RAM. Top of my class but boy, did that poor thing suffered with Android Studio

@ivancillo8797 6 месяцев назад

Funny enough at work we use a laptop with an AMD CPU (Ryzen 5 4600H) and I've seen more and more laptops that use AMD for their components. This was my first experience with the brand and now my first PC Build next to me uses a Ryzen 9 7900X

@esotericjahanism5251 6 месяцев назад

@@ivancillo8797 Ryzen has been killing it in the Builders market, the fact that they keep the same socket for more generations of CPUs than Intel alone makes it worth it to a builder, because a cheap drop in upgrade is only going to require you buying a single component and often times a new one, if you have an older intel cpu and you want to upgrade you are likely going to have to buy at least a motherboard as well or settle for hunting down a used i7 or i9 that is often going to come at a dumb premium because it was a flagship cpu in it's time. If you built a Ryzen 7000 today youll likely have 4 generations of CPU upgrades to choose from in the future. And today even for budget builders if you picked up a Ryzen 1700x or something you could upgrade to a 5800x3d or similar for a reasonable price and a bios update. The performance is just the iceing on the cake.

@bobchipman4473 6 месяцев назад

I have to assume some marketing director completely lost their marbles (and presumably now their job) and pushed this through before anyone could stop them.

@jbsthegamer 6 месяцев назад

What's worse is that some people are falling for this marketing currently and are 100% oblivious to it

@EthicalAllele 6 месяцев назад

I'm happy for the userbenchmark guy. Looks like he finally landed his dream job :)

@juhopeltonen1531 6 месяцев назад

Truly a gold level comment

@Insertionable 6 месяцев назад

Exactly thinking of this lmao 😆

@futuza 6 месяцев назад

And people say that shilling for companies never pays off...

@AdrianOkay 6 месяцев назад

Funny enough the userbenchmark guy didn't write a review for the 14900k, meaning that not even him has the guts to keep justifying intel products

@Tzofeh 6 месяцев назад

yeh, first thing that came to my mind, that sht really sounded like the guy on that site lmao

@gameurai5701 6 месяцев назад

Congrats to Userbenchmark for finally making his dream come true and land his dream job as Intel's official head of the marketing department.

@HankBaxter 6 месяцев назад

😂

@apolloeosphoros4345 6 месяцев назад

lmao thats exactly what it sounds like

@gmonkman 6 месяцев назад

lol

@crochebotamrelapute8816 6 месяцев назад

How dare you..?! 🤣

@lilgohan 6 месяцев назад

this is the best 5800X3D ad I've seen yet

@Hawkins-1985 6 месяцев назад

Let's talk about "Intel 7". The most ludicrous snake oil thing I've seen in tech in recent years. Intel renaming their 10nm manufacturing process, that made it sound as if they had the same 7nm transistor gate length as competing AMD CPUs. Intel has no room to talk about questionable marketing.

@miriamkapeller6754 6 месяцев назад

I'm surprised you didn't talk about their criticism of "not all cores may have the same performance" when they were literally the ones that introduced this into the x86 space, selling 2 performance cores and 8 efficiency cores as "10 cores". The sheer gall of that left me speechless.

@SpartanArmy117 6 месяцев назад

I actually think their architecture is pretty clever but yeah who thought that was a good marketing point. Your entire product line is based on the benefits of unequal cores haha.

@wretlaw1203 6 месяцев назад

ive seen older amd parts marketted as core count = cpu cores + gpu cores for cpus with on board graphics

@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 6 месяцев назад

I have one such cpu on my laptop and it's surprisingly performant.

@infernaldaedra 6 месяцев назад

Or that they were the ones that called AMD out for using "gluing together" CPUs which they immediately copied in their next generation cpus

@Daeyae 6 месяцев назад

The efficiency cores on my 13700k are still better than the cores on my old Ryzen, it's not like they are weak or anything they are pretty bulky for how small they are. Sure its not a 16 core as in the 7950x would beat it, but it's closer in price to the 7900x which is a 12 core, which it beats by a tad which is fine for them both being 24 thread, apart from cp2077 seems to brick itself if you have hyperthreading enabled or don't set the affinity

@tghidsgn 6 месяцев назад

This is pretty rich coming from the company that brought us 14nm++++++++ year after year.

@samuelrodgers2742 6 месяцев назад

And Intel also rebranded their 10nm Enhanced SuperFin node as ‘Intel 7’ and their 7nm node as ‘Intel 4’ in order to seem more competitive with TSMC.

@tghidsgn 6 месяцев назад

@@samuelrodgers2742 That's because smaller number better, unless it's not then bigger number better, unless it's dates then latest number better, unless it's a number from AMD in which case it's always worse.

@esotericjahanism5251 6 месяцев назад

Ah the intel Quad-Core dark ages

@aquapendulum 6 месяцев назад

14nm# (programming joke)

@lharsay 6 месяцев назад

@@samuelrodgers2742If you check out laptop tests the i7 1260P was actually comparable to the Ryzen 7 6800H (6nm) at the same power usage and the transistor density of that node also surpassed Samsung 8nm so they were kinda right at renaming it.

@ETophales 6 месяцев назад

Got to say that this is the video I watched more than any other, and although it's no longer the latest, it's still the best. Great delivery, editing and nice scenery shots.

@SpudRusset 5 месяцев назад

They are marketing solely for that one guy at userbenchmark

@bigjohn2811 6 месяцев назад

So AMD's old stuff beats Intel's new stuff. Wow, Intel's marketing is next level.

@haukionkannel 6 месяцев назад

Because the lastest does not matter! 😂😂😂

@ivayloivggrigorov9959 6 месяцев назад

@@juveboy01033you're the fanboy do you not realize it at this point?

@allxtend4005 6 месяцев назад

They are but hurt because they need 4 generations of i9 to Beat the r7 5800x3d but AMD aß assholes aß they are released the r7 7800x3d 😮 and at the top of the AMD middlefinger they released the treadripper 7960-7995 that IS unmatched by Intels Xeon cpu's for years from on😂 and i saw a Video how someone overclocked all 96 Cores to over 6 GHz 😂 even AMD themself updated the Benchmark with Ther treadripper Score and got besten by someone WHO got a even Higher Score with that CPU 😂 Intel meanwhile looking Back at the Times where they can RIP Off customers with a i7 4c/8t for 6 to 7 generations and Charge every time 400-600$ and If you wanted more Cotes you Had to pay over 1000$ 😂

@DragonlordXV 6 месяцев назад

@@juveboy01033they are beating them straight for 6 years consecutive

@insantonua 6 месяцев назад

@@juveboy01033 well who cares about on stage, what matters is real world performance. see what i did there?! i did an intel :D

@th3h0tpegla35 6 месяцев назад

This sounds like someone trained AI on UserBenchmark "reviews" and prompted it to make a marketing campaign.

@tobytoxd 6 месяцев назад

LOL 💯

@grumpycat5991 6 месяцев назад

This

@paxdriver 6 месяцев назад

... with inference for that AI model run on a threadripper pro, of course. Because performance is important for us 30+ year olds who have skills and education needs that grow our compute needs lol

@Free2PlayLessPays 6 месяцев назад

when intel pushes "future of education depends on the latest technology" like a kid, who wants a new computer, but the parents say "only for studying"

@stevehook7012 6 месяцев назад

"As students progress, their activities place increasing demands on their computers" and in the previous slide they said kids should have i3 and i5... if that statement is true you should be slapping an i9 into every kids device so that they won't have to upgrade their chips every few years, and "the latest isn't the best" so I guess an i9 today will still be great in 10 years. It's the most anti-marketing I've ever seen.

@nebufabu 6 месяцев назад

I'm still not convinced this deck isn't a mass hallucination. If anyone but Intel did that, they'd spend next 5 years apologizing and hoping they're not sued...

@scimbrelo 6 месяцев назад

Legit it doesn’t feel real, and I feel stupid for having purchased their products in the past now lmao

@CalculatedRiskAK 6 месяцев назад

Honestly, all this does is advertise AMD it seems, and it even explains how the mobile SKUs are named... for their competitor! I won't be surprised if Dr. Su looks at this (the slide deck) and has a laugh.

@scimbrelo 6 месяцев назад

@@CalculatedRiskAK amd just reissues the same slide deck and rolls the dice

@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters 6 месяцев назад

@@scimbrelo With the background painted red

@magnomliman8114 6 месяцев назад

@@scimbrelo????

@sandorbence2067 6 месяцев назад

After having all the factory tours and discussion videos with all those engineers, now we need a series where you visit big companies and talk to the marketing team.

@trued2010 6 месяцев назад

Nah. Then people would say GN is biased. Even if GN didn't get paid in any way. Gn is independent and we want them independent.

@CptJistuce 6 месяцев назад

@@trued2010People say GN is biased anyways. Pretty much any review of an Intel, AMD, or nVidia part sees them accused of being paid shills for the product reviewed as well as paid shills for that product's competition.

@masterluckyluke 6 месяцев назад

He tried it once with Newegg, was an interesting video.^^

@Noe2iq 6 месяцев назад

No, we don’t. Marketers aren’t people. Why would you think that any sincere and relevant question would yield a response more coherent than a Twin Peaks fever dream?

@Jackson-bh1jw 6 месяцев назад

Intel: but... but..... We make cpus for eVeRYonE, PlAYErs DoeSNT MattER players: WE ARE EVERYONE

@beetheimmortal 5 месяцев назад

Hey Intel, student here. The most hardware-demanding job I had to do on my (otherwise several thousands of dollars worth) computer was a literal excel spreadsheet with calculations. No, I do not need an i9 for that, nor do I need it for any other Uni activity.

@CYWNightmare 5 месяцев назад

That subnote for number 3. Based on time for one lens on Adobe Photoshop ☠️☠️ glad the 5 people who understood that know it. Rest of us wanna know what video render times look like.

@jcat96 6 месяцев назад

When Steve is on-location, you know it's gonna be good.

@tomunterwegs1206 6 месяцев назад

Or bad ... From intels point of view.😂

@aquapendulum 6 месяцев назад

Thanks, Steve!

@ilmstreams 6 месяцев назад

Did someone say ARTESIAN BUILDS? Lol

@HCGonzalezJr87 6 месяцев назад

Steve was on ALL the locations.

@alaeriia01 6 месяцев назад

Now he needs to go back to Microcenter and film himself buying a computer for a fan again.

@AlexanderVonMalachi 6 месяцев назад

How that presentation got approved is beyond my comprehension.

@m0rthaus 6 месяцев назад

Maybe the execs have all left early for their holidays in Aspen, France, etc - middle management has taken the wheel, and they just slammed into a ditch.

@tsjeriAu 6 месяцев назад

Perhaps whoever runs UserBenchmark is in charge of making that slide.

@osamu_90 6 месяцев назад

The people that made that presentation and approved it are probably going to lose their jobs lol, this is too bizarre even for Intel standards.

@KG4949-r9f 6 месяцев назад

i can imagine that pat personally approved it...

@Munenushi 6 месяцев назад

lol their "CPUpro" writers, yes!@@tsjeriAu

@weeblbob233 6 месяцев назад

was this your Linus walking down the street in Asia Intel homage? Your smiles keep throwing me off this being serious. I loved it. Keep on keep on.

@slimj091 5 месяцев назад

My boss doesn't seem to think that me being the latest to work is a good thing.

@MickBenjamins 6 месяцев назад

For a document like this to go out, it has to go through multiple stages of approval… that’s nuts to think about

@iatwiatw 6 месяцев назад

Not only that, someone from leadership most probably insisted on putting in/keeping some of the dumbest points in that deck.

@123avneesh 6 месяцев назад

Now I want to see what didn't make the cut. It's such a missed opportunity.

@SadeN_0 6 месяцев назад

all it really takes is one unhinged manager doing some skunkworks with a graphics person

@contris1 6 месяцев назад

shows how desperate they are in intel

@Skelath 6 месяцев назад

And here I am with a 14900KF and ASUS 4090, with an ASUS mobo, get a 850watt PSU they said, it's is more than enough they say. ASUS 4090 hitting 500watt on stock boost, 14900KF hitting 250watt on stock bo-- ahem, updated BIOS on ASUS mobo enabling MCE on default removing limitations, causing the CPU to hit 350watts and throttle at 100 degrees. 500+350, good thing I got a 1000watt PSU huh. Should have gotten an AMD for stable temps cause the 14900KF even with MCE disabled on a 360mm AIO Rad spikes up to 60-70 degrees multiple times a minute while the system is idle.

@eleven99 6 месяцев назад

This is what companies like to do when they're pissy because they lost their monopoly status and are forced to compete again.

@naamadossantossilva4736 6 месяцев назад

And what is funny is that this was very preventable.They dumped engineers when they thought AMD couldn't compete anymore.If they had not done that 14 and 10 nm would have been on track and Ryzen would have failed.

@eliasroflchopper3006 6 месяцев назад

They deserve every bit of this.

@nintendoatarikiller 6 месяцев назад

Nice profile picture🤝

@musouisshin 6 месяцев назад

@@naamadossantossilva4736 in all honesty ryzen would have never failed bcz AMD is completely capable of adding more cores to lower tier processors with thei power consumption rn but their margins would be reduced but if they have already gambled the company on ryzen they wouldnt back down - intel just made it easier

@esotericjahanism5251 6 месяцев назад

@@eliasroflchopper3006 Yeah its what they get for trying to sell us the same quad-core processors for a fucking decade.

@tinkerman5220 6 месяцев назад

I'm glad to see you having fun on the job. It must be a nice break from all the thorough testing you do.

@LyteDarq 6 месяцев назад

As a materials scientist, pyrolitic graphite (“stacked graphene”) has abysmal thermal conductivity in the Z axis. It’s actually used as thermal insulator.

@crashtestdummy87 6 месяцев назад

If intel is gonna lay off workers when things go bad they should start with their whole marketing department

@twign6378 6 месяцев назад

They can't just axe their most innovative department like that

@kwrzesien17 6 месяцев назад

The funny thing is most companies consider their marketing department responsible for revenue and the engineering side is just an expense. Well maybe this isn’t funny at all.

@devilmikey00 6 месяцев назад

I mean they'll lay off workers if things go good. Laying off workers is just standard corpo thing that happens on a nearly yearly basis these days to continue the illusion of infinite growth for shareholders.

@tripplejaz 6 месяцев назад

This entire presentation has "graphic design is my passion" energy.

@beayn 6 месяцев назад

That's exactly what I was thinking. This was written by someone with very loose knowledge of the products. Nobody arranges CPU classes by age group? Wait, maybe I can use that one slide as a way to steer people away from buying Celerons at my shop. "Look, these are for 5yo kids, what you need is an i9 for teenagers."

@reginaldoestremera3007 6 месяцев назад

I know right?! Im learning a lot from this and taking notes.

@pirtatejoe 6 месяцев назад

Buzzword buzzword, meaningless statement, buzzword, graphic, chart chart, buzzword, picture of someone smiling using their computer, buzzword buzzword. Do not question us, buzzword graphic chart.

@DeltaSierra426 6 месяцев назад

Almost has intern written all over it. I honestly can't even assume that Intel as a whole is this bitter, just this person or people involved. But I could be wrong.

@charlesballiet7074 6 месяцев назад

the new inclusion and diversity hires im shure@@DeltaSierra426

@guitarguy6561 6 месяцев назад

Love the editing! keep it coming :)

@JasonBrody657 2 месяца назад

As shareholder I'm genuinely sad. And realy thinking of dumping INTC from my portfolio. What a shame for this company 😔

@Arashmickey 6 месяцев назад

Userbenchmark: "Send me in coach, I'm ready!" Intel: "..."

@TexanMiror2 6 месяцев назад

Intel has always been involved in legally-gray-zone if not downright illegal marketing and anti-competitive behavior, so this doesn't surprise me, but seriously, these slides are absolutely hilarious. I am so glad AMD is going strong enough to put them in their place and make them cry like this, because the consumer needs strong competition. Ideally, though, I would like to see competition based on honest performance metrics, rather than misleading consumers.

@zihechen3111 6 месяцев назад

Amd marketing team is worse.

@casnub5484 6 месяцев назад

@@zihechen3111for real lol.

@masterluckyluke 6 месяцев назад

What? Most of the time Intel didn't do any marketing at all.^^

@zihechen3111 6 месяцев назад

@@casnub5484 and the truth is amd naming theme really suck as. Those amd marketing incompetents simply can’t keep consistency. They get 1700x out, then 2700x, 3700x, then suddenly skips 4000 from reason and jumps to 5000, and again skips 6000 for no reason jump to 7000. Seems like in those incompetents mindset, bigger numbers mean better. So they give no fk about naming themes skips 4000 bc they want use bigger number. Even it breaks consistency. A good company should care a lot about consistency so that customers may trust their product and they can build the reputation. However amd don’t care about consistency, those incompetents in amd simply can’t realize the importance consistency do to long term growth. that is why amd a garbage company. It’s a garbage company with incompetents only sees short terms. Being a loser forever is what amd deserve

@AllMuscle1 6 месяцев назад

Whenever current technology reaches its zenith and the engineers tell the executives that they will be unable to pull any large performance gains in future iterations, that is when companies start to turn towards collusion and lying to customers. In the case of electron-based lithography, we are reaching that zenith. This is why the change towards smearing one another and trying to mislead the customer. Until a new realm expansion of technology comes down the pipeline, this will be the state of things to come for the next 5-7 years. It is akin to when AMD64 and Pentium III/4 (funny that Core2 went back to the Pentium III architecture) started to stagnate. Core 2 Duo was Intel's way out of this. It stopped all over AMD until the Core i architecture started to turn out mediocre gains. Thankfully, we saw AMD launch Ryzen, real competition with Intel, and the expansion of innovation through parallel processor core computing. Not sure what will follow, but it will be interesting.

@carlr2837 6 месяцев назад

As someone who just bought a 14700k, and whose son just bought a 14900k, while my other son runs a Ryzen, I can assure you that things are not always "the latest", nor are they always what they seem. The Ryzen is built on a 7nm process, and runs relatively cool peaking about 60C even with overclocking and no special cooling. The 14900k and 14700k are fast, yes, but since they are built on a 10nm process, in order to get that speed, they eat power, and crank out heat. They are designed to run at 256 watts, and peak at more. That takes at least a 950 watt power supply, and a massive amount of cooling. We had better than average cooling, but it still was peaking at over 90C at times, way too hot for a long life. We are moving up to a Dark Cool Assassin IV, Thermal Grizzly liquid metal, some 6000 RPM bitcoin mining fans, and some quieter 2-3000 RPM fans. In addition, we throttled the CPU down to peak at 170 watts. I expect that we can get the temperatures to peak at maybe 70 C, which is still pretty hot. Now, let's talk about who is selling snake oil. My understanding is that Intel has been unable to get their 7nm process running on schedule, so they are renaming their 10nm process to be called "Intel 7", and that when the 7nm process gets running, it will be called "Intel 4". If this is incorrect, someone, please correct me, but if it is correct, then that is disingenuous, sorry Intel. Are the 14700k and 14900k the "latest and greatest" or are they somewhat dated, using an older 10nm process to make them? In my opinion, the latter, and had I realized how much heat they put out, I would definitely have gone with a 7nm Ryzen.

@dubsessed9790 6 месяцев назад

I really liked the walking/outdoor shots! Back to you, Steve.

@CML-ng5ez 6 месяцев назад

Can't wait for Intel to start paying companies to use their products instead of AMD again. It's been almost 20 years from the last lawsuit.

@benjaminoechsli1941 6 месяцев назад

Based on the market share AMD has been taking in just about every business sector, I doubt they have the money to pull that crap at this point. 😅

@DeetexSeraphine 6 месяцев назад

@@benjaminoechsli1941I dunno man, this is right up Dell's dodgey alley

@NamTran-xc2ip 6 месяцев назад

They already been doing this. 16 inch laptops almost exclusively have intel cpus

@cristi724 6 месяцев назад

What makes you think they ever stopped?

@ACE112ACE112 6 месяцев назад

what happened?

@MikeHanson 6 месяцев назад

So when the Intel CEO said AMD was in their review mirror at the 12th gen launch, what he really meant was "We cannot stop thinking about AMD".

@frommatorav1 6 месяцев назад

No, I think he was just driving the car in reverse.

@MikeHanson 6 месяцев назад

@@frommatorav1 Ah yes, now it makes sense. Thank you good citizen.

@Snerk56 6 месяцев назад

As soon as I read the word 'mirror' I imagined that Buffalo Bill mirror scene in Silence of the Lambs, except an Intel exec doing it.

@CCISolitude 6 месяцев назад

"Objects in the rear view mirror are closer than they appear"

@OutOfNameIdeas2 6 месяцев назад

@@frommatorav1no, intel spun of the road and ended up backwards in a ditch. And could see AMD slowly disappearing in the rear view mirror

@_hotsause_ 6 месяцев назад

As somebody who works retail and had enrolled in the intel retail edge program; Without watching the video, I can say first hand that intel has absolutely gone off the deep end when it comes to trying to regain their foothold in the market share. It's honestly embarrassing how they're trying to dunk on apples devices for the "limited" macos ecosystem. And even blatantly lying or just outright incorrect about the hardware specs and capabilities of Macs since they moved to their own silicon. I know GN doesn't really have a lot to say about apple products but some of what they said was downright embarrassing. Even how they were trying to talk up their great new intel link application- or whatever it was called. That functionally replaced what the Phone Link on windows was trying to accomplish... With none of the benefits (also it works on iOS which is odd considering how much they seem to dislike apple). Once they started bashing AMDs processors despite some of their own metrics being within a margin of error, they never got off that high horse for that extra 4% performance improvement over AMD however. I haven't used the retail edge program since, and it's too bad, since their rewards were a great incentive to keep up the training. Except that the store was always out of stock of anything worthwhile... Unless you by chance get lucky and want to order a funko pop or pokemon cards packs...

@MatthewHill 6 месяцев назад

If learning depends on the latest 2023 CPUs, then I must've gotten a completely shit education because we only had 80286's back then.

@atom608 6 месяцев назад

The fact they posted this after 14th gen release has to be satire.

@nosirrahx 6 месяцев назад

As they talk about the 11th gen, over and over.

@dan_loeb 6 месяцев назад

you see this often, people project their own faults onto others to rationalize their problems. and reassure themselves they are doing well.

@FcoEnriquePerez 6 месяцев назад

I mean, they have done shit like this already, not their first time, they are the main character when talking about bullshitting.

@Tox927 6 месяцев назад

Sadly and pathetically it's not.

@daedaluslv2032 6 месяцев назад

Something must be wrong with new gen sales. Oh wait, sales of new gen names.

@alb9229 6 месяцев назад

Intel : AMDs old architecture beats our new architecture so you should buy ours instead . AMD : Remind me again , when did we hire Intel to do our marketing ?

@shadowwolf2608 6 месяцев назад

I wouldn't call making free marketing being hired...but I don't think AMD's complaining.

@alb9229 6 месяцев назад

@@shadowwolf2608 Yeah the joke was you got be paid to make a selling argument for your competition .... or just be Intel marketing team 😂

@smugdiogenes5571 6 месяцев назад

“Here’s our new slidedeck!” “Uhhh…how is this supposed to help sell Intel processors?” “….Intel processors?”

@alargecorgi2199 6 месяцев назад

I think these slides are for boomer illiteraters and 30-40 somethings now that are also clueless but need to buy something for their new kids

@soupysoup931 6 месяцев назад

Intel snapped after having 11900k, and 14900k launches and also having their asses handed by AMD since 3000 series. It's hilarious how 5800x3d still shits on most amd and intel cpus in gaming(value/performance wise) and 7800x3d completely destroys Intel.

@ShitkidOfJamrock 6 месяцев назад

"Newer doesnt mean better" Yes intel, you have made that abundantly clear. As far back as the 5800x3d AMD was using older and cheaper dies to make better, more power efficient chips. Turns out actually thinking things out and innovating makes things more cost effective, instead of just jamming 100 more watts through last gen's chips and calling it cutting edge

@ronnysiri2934 6 месяцев назад

Great effort in the angles for this vid

@chrisbaker8533 6 месяцев назад

It's great to see intel's new AI doing something.

@Techspin 6 месяцев назад

Right? Seems Intel's presentation was pretty much AI generated 😂

@Real_MisterSir 6 месяцев назад

bro that's an insult to AI

@tringuyen7519 6 месяцев назад

@@Real_MisterSirAgreed. Nvidia’s AI will at least talk you in a creepy way!

@greebj 6 месяцев назад

I agree the arguments they confect in this convoluted mess are highly Artifical... not so sure about Intelligent

@maItre_gonzo 6 месяцев назад

Actually a very good point and probably the whole explanation. This has to be AI generated.

@osiris5432 6 месяцев назад

This deck was made at 2 in the morning by a new marketing hire that woke up sweaty and hyperventilating from an "AMD ate my homework" nightmare

@rometherevenant8749 6 месяцев назад

Man I laughed unintentionally just seeing Steve pop out from behind that tree in the beginning lol

@gojiplusone 6 месяцев назад

9:06 the MPAA age rating for their products really got me...😂 Can't wait for the R-rated version of i9 14900K...

@Canivirus 6 месяцев назад

You know you messed up when you release a marketing piece then suddenly see Steve recording a video in front of your building.

@doorlesswings9356 6 месяцев назад

It's the equivalent of a demon seeing doomguy is awake... Cue music

@tobytoxd 6 месяцев назад

🤣

@CapaNoisyCapa 6 месяцев назад

Lol

@mycosys 6 месяцев назад

if Steve is filming outside your office, rather than inside, you done goofed

@acidic.sydney 6 месяцев назад

“You’re not old enough for an i9” made me laugh way too hard

@Loop_Kat 6 месяцев назад

Even better is the notion that you have to give up on Intel completely and go buy AMD anyway after you reach 16 simply because they don't make anything above an i9

@chrisrib05 6 месяцев назад

Great thing to use against your kid asking for an overpowered/overpriced PC 😈

@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww 6 месяцев назад

@@chrisrib05 Hey, be fair. It always depens of what the kid is useing for. If he/she´s asking for an 4090 playing GTA5, No. Playing Fortnite, Maybe (Nanite is powerfull and needs alot of power). Playing Cyberpunk 2077, Yes.

@aladdin8623 6 месяцев назад

@@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowwwSorry but no game ever justifies paying such totally exaggerated prices for gpus.

@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww 6 месяцев назад

@@aladdin8623 Just buy them second hand. Let the rich people, who buy them anyway go puff there chests with them and when they are bored of those cards, they sell them for half the price to someone who actually has a practical use for such a card.

@ProductJunkie117 6 месяцев назад

I'm enjoying the outdoor videos lol Nexus Tech Reporter!

@anaryl 6 месяцев назад

I think more than ever, this is a commentary on marketing and PR firms being fundamentally unable to grasp what the target market wants.

@amilyester 6 месяцев назад

Just when they were on a good streak with Arc steadily improving, Alder and Raptor being well received and IFS being on track, Intel relapses with this crap smh...

@V_0717 6 месяцев назад

I think the GPU division is somewhat autonomous from the CPU division. The CPU division is just having a tantrum right now and is making the entire company look bad, still behavior like this is just childish.

@IamJay02 6 месяцев назад

@@V_0717it's the whole company

@kekistanifreedomfighter4197 6 месяцев назад

Never underestimate a marketing team's ability to try ruining any good will that engineering and developer teams build up with customers & press.

@ShaneTheGeek 6 месяцев назад

Geeze really!!! I was just starting to like Intel again with all the recent improvements to the Arc GPU's. Then CPU marketing demons had to start opening their slide decks.

@jimtekkit 6 месяцев назад

@@kekistanifreedomfighter4197 I won't be specific but I worked at a company that made public claims that their new army land vehicle design was ready for production. I was on the engineering team. We had only produced one demonstrator vehicle and it wasn't even proven to drive under its own power yet at that point. Not only that, we knew it would've required a complete ground-up re-design before being ready for production anyway. That's how much of a disconnect there was between the marketing team and reality.

@mrhoach2229 6 месяцев назад

Intel guy 1: "Do we maybe spot check the AI generated marketing campaign at all before we launch?" Intel guy 2: "Nahhh, let her rip tater chip." Two dudes at Intel, probably.

@IanTheCat 6 месяцев назад

You forgot the line they snorted beforehand

@Yellowredstone 6 месяцев назад

"Let her rip tater chip." is my new slogan now. Thanks.

@Chewiebakke 6 месяцев назад

@@Yellowredstone Where can I get a clip of Duke Nukem saying this?

@GigaChadAlucard 6 месяцев назад

someone respond to me on this so that way i remember to use let her rip tater chip lmao

@IXFlipyap 17 дней назад

@@GigaChadAlucardlet her rip tater chip

@RisingRevengeance 6 месяцев назад

1:56 Damn that was smooth

@halko1 6 месяцев назад

10:59 Finally I know which CPU is good for a 5 year old making PowerPoint presentations. Much better than confusing AMD marketing.

@mehemynxm6974 6 месяцев назад

This coming after the 14 debacle is insane. This has to be an AI idea or something. No way a human thought this through.

@pkt1213 6 месяцев назад

Made by AI or a person, you are correct in that no thought was involved.

@kreozello 6 месяцев назад

@@pkt1213nailed it. Just one addition: *rational* though wasn't involved.

@bjrnegillarsen1380 6 месяцев назад

AI would have done a better job, this garbage has meth written all over it...

@grumpycat5991 6 месяцев назад

This was my 1st impression... It was written by AI My 2nd though was that each slide was written by a different marketing intern and no one higher up bothered to read the whole thing.

@florianoprescu2171 6 месяцев назад

It's the Userbrnchmark guy

@certifiedpossum1638 6 месяцев назад

Steve's editing team probably spent more time removing background noise in this video than intel on that slide deck.

@tonydalimata 6 месяцев назад

Yah , there was probably a lot of laughter in the background

@1samm1 6 месяцев назад

Successfully so, you might add 👍

@JohnWiku 6 месяцев назад

How do you remove laughter? Do you need to laugh backwards so it cancels out? 😂😂

@1samm1 6 месяцев назад

@@JohnWiku forward, but you have to laugh out of phase to cancel the other laughter

@tonydalimata 6 месяцев назад

@@JohnWiku one needs to add in the sound of salt creation , they cancel each other out. One needs be careful about the source of the salt though . Salt coming from Reddit posts can result in wailing and nashing of teeth background noise. Salt sourced from e-sports losers results in a high pitched whine.

@ChairmanMeow1 2 месяца назад

Say they named the new processor 'Bread'. So why cant they just do Bread 1, Bread 2, Bread 3, etc. And for changes in between major changes just use 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, etc. Why is that so difficult???

@darkman237 6 месяцев назад

Any reviews for the kryosheets?

@DivusMagus 6 месяцев назад

Intel's marketing was so bizarre, Steve had to go outside to make sure reality was still in order.

@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 6 месяцев назад

It was San Fransisco, so all the men dressed as women out of camera frame should tell him it is not

@Krannski 6 месяцев назад

@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473what a random time and place to start coping

@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 6 месяцев назад

@@Krannski triggered 2 of you "validating my delusion is your responsiblity" types in 15 minutes so totally worth it

@Krannski 6 месяцев назад

@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473lol, you're the one who got triggered by the idea of "men dressed as women" so much you brought it up in an intel video. You're projecting, bub. Typical. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Also, wtf does "validating my delusion is your responsibility" even mean? You seem to have constructed an image in your head and are imparting onto me things I never said. I just said you're coping. Cause you are. You got triggered by cross dressers in a video that doesn't have any cross dressers. That's called an obsession, by definition. Have a nice day.

@galidou99 6 месяцев назад

It's clear to all of us that intel hired UserBenchmark's employees to come out with a presentation like that.

@HoboWithWifi 6 месяцев назад

I'm still waiting on userbenchmark's 🔥🔥🔥 review on 14th gen Intel. It's been a month and a half since the release and they've still got nothing to say. :(

@Heinz76Harald 6 месяцев назад

obvious XD

@t.r.2283 6 месяцев назад

No they hired the latest and greatest useless humans. The business consultant. I bet it's the same guys that work for Lego.

@DeltaSierra426 6 месяцев назад

Ohhhhh, yes, this does remind me of UserBenchmark! You called it dead-on.

@dualtronix4438 6 месяцев назад

In one of the AMD cpu reviews in UB, they refer buying AMD as buying an used card. Intel's presentation has car salesman on it @@DeltaSierra426

@AxelThunderLord 6 месяцев назад

Was performance review done for this thermal grizzly product in any videos here?

@stenca6461 6 месяцев назад

Damn Intel finally hired userbenchmark in their marketing team

@joehurst3495 6 месяцев назад

Shows how scared Intel is getting.

@MikehMike01 6 месяцев назад

AMD is garbage

@Steven-hq6df 6 месяцев назад

@@MikehMike01intel should hire you to make more of these slide decks

@snozzmcberry2366 6 месяцев назад

@@MikehMike01What, exactly, do you think you gain from this? Think Pat Gelsinger is going to show up at your house to tug one out for you and give you a complementary 14900K?

@ipodtouchiscoollol 6 месяцев назад

@@MikehMike01 Thank you Intel worker #231763, very cool.

@anderson9244MLG 6 месяцев назад

@@MikehMike01🤓

@AliasAlias-nm9df 6 месяцев назад

At the end of it all we find ourselves asking "If they can't put together a presentation how can they put together a CPU?"

@codykonior 6 месяцев назад

You can trust it because it’s the latest presentation.

@tatwood93 6 месяцев назад

They are marketing to the people who buy laptops for schools. It's a large market, at least in my backwater district in Ohio we had at least one laptop for every kid. When I was that age, every school had those crappy Windows 7 Celeron netbooks with 5200rpm HDDs that took half the class to boot. Swing by the walmart laptop section and you'll notice AMD has recently taken over a large chunk of the laptop market that intel once hed, not to mention ARM chromebooks & the fact that Apple's new laptops don't use Intel. IMO Intel pushed their products into schools before they were ready for that kind of application, and gave the Celeron a bad rep for wasting valuable classroom time. Hence why they're now saying a 5-10 year old needs an i3 for programming, and are trying to associate that bad reputation they've created for Windows netbooks with AMD. The benchmark thing is especially funny, it's like they know an underpowered chromebook will do the job just fine and there's no need for an i3 but they just need something to point at and say theirs is better.

@haroldflower8008 6 месяцев назад

they need to stick to making good CPUs, super hard i know

@manefin 6 месяцев назад

Thats easy to answer, different teams make different things. I have no doubt intel has good professional teams making the actual chips. But im interested what was actually the team that made that "but but snake oil and latest is latest and greatest but not greatest and not latest" abomination. Who are those people and why were they paid to make that abomination ? And by whom ? Now that would be interesting to know.

@dead-claudia 6 месяцев назад

@@tatwood93sure but there's better ways to do that...

@antimatt_r 6 месяцев назад

Sounds like some intern messed up and accidentally made a slideshow out of the talking points meant for UserBenchmark

@FluffyPuppyKasey 6 месяцев назад

I'm not sure if I can get in contact with you all via email so I figured I'd drop a comment here since it's fairly relevant. I'm noticing lately a lot of tech outlets are recommending ancient (i.e GTX 1660/RTX 2060) GPUs as "deals" when they're being sold on Amazon for literally twice as much as you could get a GPU for on the used market, or just get a modern GPU for the same damn price. I just recorded a completely unhinged rant about the topic because it GENUINELY pisses me off. What caused me to spiral out of control on the topic is an article from PC Guide with the headline "EVGA midrange 20 series gaming GPU’s price plunges in Amazon deal." Like, why the hell is the author recommending four year old GPUs that get destroyed by even low end GPUs of this generation? Why are they $300? Why did they do zero research and just copy and paste the marketing? And most egregious: WHY ARE THEY COMPARING TO A SEVEN YEAR OLD GPU? I'm seeing this ABSOLUTELY everywhere. If it's LAST GEN stuff I get it, but more and more I'm seeing tech outlets recommending ancient stuff as "deals" when if you did just a LITTLE research you'd find that's not the case

@Xuzyy 6 месяцев назад

Its genuine incredible this slide show was created approved and shared, there are people getting paid for this, insane

@seeibe 6 месяцев назад

Yeah I've seen some dumb shit working for large companies but this is next level

@Real_MisterSir 6 месяцев назад

tinfoil hat me would love to believe this was some sabotage employee planted in secret by AMD in the Intel ranks, cold war style anti-propaganda espionage/sabotage

@tringuyen7519 6 месяцев назад

AMD is launching Hawk Point at CES in 1 month & Strix Point in Computex 2024. Intel’s MTL has to compete with both in 2024. Spoiler: it will get obliterated.

@haukionkannel 6 месяцев назад

I want also that kind of job! Where i can enlist? 😂😂😂

@Atari5732 6 месяцев назад

9:13 An odd chart indeed, I would never recommend an i3 for content creation, and how is esports more power hungry than AI? At 11:35 they suggest that coding requires a future proof machine. People are still coding in Python on XP - practically any basic machine will handle coding/compiling. At 12:20 we can see where they didn't properly align the icons and the middle of the page looks awful. All this and they completely failed to mention one of the most CPU intensive process of all: bitmining. They couldn't even stick to the blue/orange color scheme they started with - towards the end they just look like someone made them in MS office.

@adul00 6 месяцев назад

I saw CrossMark, (2:51) and that was enough. I am from Poland, and recently there was a bill, that all 4th-graders (~10 y.o.) at school are to receive government-funded laptops, and one of the requirements for specs was 1100 points in CrossMark, which is known to very heavily favour Intel. Ryzen 9 5980HX reached 1098 points (not enough to be considered), while dual-core i3-1115G4 - 1118 points.

@angelaizen2231 6 месяцев назад

Bruh what. Intel bribing your government or what

@TingFeng77 6 месяцев назад

so basically like userbench but in benchmarking software

@zetsubou3704 6 месяцев назад

What in the fuck did Intel pay the government ☠️☠️☠️☠️

@nathanlarson6535 6 месяцев назад

This is what happens when you have career politicians and/or corporate trust fund babies make big decisions regarding things they know absolutely nothing about.

@eliasroflchopper3006 6 месяцев назад

Someone should tell them how computers work, then.

@peezyplayz2498 5 месяцев назад

0:12 this must be our first real look at the legendary beeve sturk IRL

@AC3handle 6 месяцев назад

Gotta love the two guys holding hands there.

@Katastra_ 6 месяцев назад

That presentation with all the "thanks Steve" moments is the gift that keeps on giving lmao

@CptJistuce 6 месяцев назад

You can literally see it!

@jazzochannel 6 месяцев назад

Back to you, Steve.

6 месяцев назад

Oh, those COVID Times Jewels

@deadmanschest4322 6 месяцев назад

@ I have the bad feeling Covid had nothing to do with it ;p

6 месяцев назад

@@deadmanschest4322i mentioned Covid times since that intel presentación wherebthe clips were extracted were from the CES presentation from 2020! Quarantine era!

@Farquad76.547 6 месяцев назад

Why are companies like this? There’s zero dignity in it. As a CEO I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of slandering competition.

@alaeriia01 6 месяцев назад

AMD's entire EPYC launch was slandering Intel. The key difference is that AMD actually had a superior product.

@CalculatedRiskAK 6 месяцев назад

Funny thing is Intel isn't even slandering AMD so much as they're making themselves just look... stupid.

@ZackSNetwork 6 месяцев назад

Depends on how you do it. As long as your not lying it’s not a big deal.

@samuelrodgers2742 6 месяцев назад

@@alaeriia01When AMD talked shit on Intel, they were confident in their own products being better. Intel talking shit on AMD in presentation slides just seems weak and desperate when their 320W 14900K loses to the 7800X3D which uses less than half the power.

@scott8919 6 месяцев назад

Their marketing team is as slimy and misleading as Tesla's.

@Dunnerski 6 месяцев назад

I love watching the people in the background look at the Host, figuring out who hes talking to.

@GOTWINGSHD День назад

Loving the camera transitions

@Silentguy_ 6 месяцев назад

It’s finally happened. Intel has devolved to UserBenchmark levels of marketing. Edit: I made this comment within the first 120 seconds. By the end of the video it was so much worse. I genuinely can’t believe this managed to make it past even the most junior of marketing teams.

@dojelnotmyrealname4018 6 месяцев назад

Honestly by the end I was just confused. They should hire an autistic 5 year old so he can scream "WHAT POINT ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO MAKE" halfway through the presentation.

@eigos 6 месяцев назад

Intel: BUY BLUE, cause RED is BAD!! And whatever you do, DON'T believe the benchmarks!

@user-qc6pg6ef6h 6 месяцев назад

Remember "glued together desktop dies"? Exceedingly shady "amdflaws"? There are many more.

@Knebebelmeyer 6 месяцев назад

u absolutly right... its neanderthal marketing^^

@sorryclaire8920 6 месяцев назад

"Intel has devolved to UserBenchmark levels of marketing" There is no proof to prove or disprove that these 2 entities are not one in the same.

@MiketheBassMan 6 месяцев назад

I have to believe they could fire their marketing team and have engineering do it to greater effect.

@Hexagonaldonut 6 месяцев назад

Probably. Engineering *actually knows the numbers* after all.

@lewisclark9656 6 месяцев назад

Engineers are too busy to deal with this shit

@asbeltrion 6 месяцев назад

Even the cleaning staff would do better than this, lmao.

@NoSpamForYou 6 месяцев назад

@@lewisclark9656 Are they though? intel is back to their 5% per year improvements lol.

@FrogOf4Chan 6 месяцев назад

@NoSpamForYou If the Engineers at Intel were allowed to be as creative as they could be the world would have its first nuclear powered desktop, I joke but engineers are some of the craziest people I've ever seen and must be reigned in 90 ish percent of the time lest they wipe us all out with their inventions.

@jeffflowers5489 6 месяцев назад

2:58 were they saying thati5 is the latest or this generation of i5 is the latest compared to the most recent R5?

@Beerpowered 2 месяца назад

Benchmarks are the only marketing I pay attention to. Power, Thermal, Performance, Efficiency. If your chip runs at 90c and consumes 300w, will probably skip.

@devilmikey00 6 месяцев назад

The part that always gets me with stuff like this is that an entire team of people almost certainly worked on this and entire different team of people approved it. This flew by god knows how many eyes and they all went "Yup, this kills". Never feel like you aren't good enough folks, we live in a world full of clowns failing upwards and so can you! Seeing stuff like this is truly inspirational.

@Yoshihara72 6 месяцев назад

I'm pretty sure there is a good amount of people involved in this, that clearly knew what is going to happen. But they either couldn't voice their opinion, didn't care to voice their opinion or simply got shut down by someone higher than them. I mean, if I get paid for doing some lazy ass stupid slide that I am absolutely 100% sure it's going to fail horribly anyway, I'd only put in enough effort to "please" the higher ups and enjoy the light work. Heck, if I'm feeling funny and/or desperate, I would even go out of my way to make things "more interestingly". If the train is going to crash anyway, why not enjoy the right and make sure we get a nice firework out of the crash? At the very least, I get occasionally get similar vibes from these Slides here.

@aubullion 6 месяцев назад

I have never felt more qualified to be a CEO in my life

@infernaldaedra 6 месяцев назад

@@Yoshihara72these slides perfectly capture the company culture

@JVCA44 6 месяцев назад

I dunno man, depending on how Intel operates internally, this might have been done by a small marketing team that takes care of that specific page/blog. But who really knows

@arthurmoore9488 6 месяцев назад

@@JVCA44 My thought as well. Though I believe the page they showed is one of Intel's "Document" sites. One with a ton of material on it, and probably with far too many people having permissions on the back end.

@WR250a 6 месяцев назад

Steve: intel is pedaling snake oil Intel: No one wants an un-oiled snake

@KyleMc16 6 месяцев назад

The latest un-oiled snake

@scimbrelo 6 месяцев назад

Coffee snake (refresh)

@GeneralNickles 6 месяцев назад

You gotta oil your snakes so those Ophidiophobes are justified in thinking snakes are slimy.

@ventrueinconnu3527 6 месяцев назад

Something about "no one wants an unoiled snake" just gave me a full body shudder and a desperate need to ask for an adult.

@erkinalp 6 месяцев назад

@@KyleMc16 the *last un-oiled snake ever

@Articulate99 Месяц назад

Always interesting, thank you.

@torinnbalasar6774 6 месяцев назад

I have a GeForce 1060 6GB and a Ryzen 7 1700x. While I don't exactly play many AAA titles, I do regularly run VMs and still play many games, and the only bottlenecks or instances where I found my processing lacking was a result of using an HDD before upgrading to an SSD, and insufficient RAM when ARK had a memory leak.

@Twn_Turbo 6 месяцев назад

You know it's bad when it's gone from 'other competitors' to the full product name

@haunt97 6 месяцев назад

I bet they still do not remember the i7 "platform" cpu's name

@redheads604 6 месяцев назад

Just imagine what didn't make the cut for this masterpiece of a presentation LMAO

@andyk2181 6 месяцев назад

I was expecting to see more about their Pigeon Lake processors.

@infernaldaedra 6 месяцев назад

I wish the tech community would publish old Intel retail edge slides. 😉

@rodiculous9464 6 месяцев назад

"AMD is run by stupid doo doo heads who will rape your dog"

@BenjaminHebert1 6 месяцев назад

Was thinking to pull the trigger on a 5800X3D, and this video made me do it!

@kalujny 6 месяцев назад

I rock the same CPU with an 7900 XTX, good for years to come.

@LameMule 6 месяцев назад

Any company that tries to sell me on their product like a politician doing a campaign ad is a company I do not trust.

@mycosys 6 месяцев назад

The intended audience is pretty clearly people with influence on the purchasing decisions for school districts. Which makes it incredibly predatory. You know, it might be worth teaming up with the Teacher's Associations or similar to do a series on shady marketing practices and inducements in education tech, because there are a LOT!

@WARnTEA 6 месяцев назад

I was under the assumption that schools mostly use Macbooks or chromebooks. Schools didn’t use PC’s when they were the better option, why would they start now?

@oscarcacnio8418 6 месяцев назад

@@WARnTEA Probably because the IT department got itself some strong voices. Either that, or I wasted my entire high school co-op course imaging Toshiba laptops for nothing.

@legros731 6 месяцев назад

Yes that clearly marketed to stupid people that know nothing about computers that buy in bulk for school A 15 year old kid absolutely needs i9 for school lol that ridiculous

@trued2010 6 месяцев назад

I had similar thoughts on the intended target for the slides. This also reeks of ai tomfoolery, but it's just barely good enough, cohesive enough,and presented in a way to think MAYBE a human wrote it. What really bothers me though is that I don't think AMD has a good way to fight this since it's not all lies but preys on the ignorance on the viewer to not know that ,while attacking AMD, Intel are simultaneously utterly destroying their own products.

@scottl9660 6 месяцев назад

Most the schools I heard are pretty solidly in camp apple.

@funtaril 6 месяцев назад

Imagine working for a tech giant and seeing Steve Burke in flesh in front of your company sign actively gesturing and recording some agitated speech. I bet that's unforgettable feeling of either existential dread or immense pride (and the latter probably happens much less often).

@CNGTunes 6 месяцев назад

Honestly I wouldn’t give a shit. It’s not like a big newspaper scoop about how your company is doing an Enron or similar

@sc3ku 6 месяцев назад

I would love to see the footage of Steve hiding behind that tree

@AlejandroGonzalez-ww6tz 6 месяцев назад

@@CNGTunes And that’s why the company would fail in your case, because you underestimate the reach and power that independent media has.

@ApeBlin 6 месяцев назад

@@CNGTunesthis video has over half a million views and reaches an audience who is intrested on this subject. How is that something gou can ignore as a company?