Internship that made me rethink my career...(technology summer analyst at Goldman Sachs)

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I worked on data science although I interviewed as a software engineer. This is my experience as a technology summer analyst at Goldman Sachs. Spoiler: I did not really like it tbh
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@safety_sid 3 года назад

High school never ends ... the cliques just evolve

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

TRUTH

@craigman7262 3 года назад

They probably arent that good but since they make connections they move up. Kinda sad when you think about it. Instead of having really good skills that you don't have to play the game and can work wherever.

@GreyGrim 3 года назад

@ 10:50 1. every business is a hierarchy, its called networking, thats the fundamental way to make the most money and in general make your job both streamlined yet still challenging, to maintain a flow state(enjoyable) you can enjoy a job all you want but if it doesn't meet your financial expectations then it'll be less appealing, everyone wants to make more money, no. matter. what. 2. this is the exact reason why biological women almost never go into STEM fields, the need for social interaction while working is almost negligible, because most STEM is about do your job and go home, men like social interaction too, we just realize the money is worth it because we can socialize outside of work, not to mention a lot of work is still local(from home) currently so it would have been the same for you either way. 3. if you had any doubts coming into the role, your lack of confidence prescribed your self-fulfilling prophecy, those weren't friends, they were competition and they finessed you out of work..

@gradstudent584 3 года назад

My advice to anybody who wants to work in tech is to always go to a company whose core product is tech. Avoid finance companies because you will be a second class citizen there.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Yup lol I learned this the hard way

@infinitelabyrinth6204 2 года назад

Interesting, hadn’t thought of it that way !

@ThomasFoolery8 2 года назад

Unless you’re a “front office engineer” at a quant trading firm.

@lavenderscent2334 Год назад

Why is finance bad lol (i'm newbie fyi)

@gradstudent584 Год назад

@@lavenderscent2334 Finance companies aren't "bad" per se. It's just that their priorities are elsewhere. They see tech dept as a cost centre. In a pure tech company, tech dept is the revenue generator so we get all the attention.

@Michael194 3 года назад

Hierachy has its place but only when the people above you have been proven capable and are there to educate you and keep you sharp, not look down on you.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Very very true!

@DataProfessor 3 года назад

That’s true!

@ClayMastah344 3 года назад

Very rare it seems to find hierarchies like that. When you finally do, you understand the value.

@mistersir3020 3 года назад

@@ClayMastah344 Yeah I agree with everyone here but the reality is different; read or skim David Graeber's book Bullshit Jobs if you've got some time.

@mistersir3020 3 года назад

@Divyanth Jayaraj That's exactly what any upstanding person believes and what society wants you to believe. I used to believe it, I was capitalist and meritocratic to the core. But with a little experience in corporate America these ideals quickly prove to be delusions. Bosses (in large corporations) are psychopaths, many are imbeciles. Most of them, except maybe at the very top, aren't visionaries at all but politicians. There is no meritocracy in most very big corporations. I'm talking about corporations the size that are exchanged on the stock market. I recommend going through Graeber's book Bullshit Jobs.

@jacobg8640 3 года назад

I get the feeling the sales and IB interns were only treated so well because the company wants to entice them into coming back full time to work 80-100 hours for no extra pay. I work at a Big 4 which isn't as prestigious, but follows a similar style of hiring thousands of interns, lavishing them with expensive dinners and events, before throwing them on the wheel until they quit.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Yup I think that was exactly it!

@Retral 3 года назад

Exactly what I’m thinking. I heard someone who works at Goldman Sachs say that the majority of her friends who worked in IB ended up changing to another field after a year or so. Don’t know how it’s such a sought after position among students

@jacobg8640 3 года назад

@@Retral It's a prestige thing. A lot of people go in with the plan of jumping ship. They just want the name on their resume to make finding better jobs easier. Plus, working that many hours means you'll be gaining a ton of exposure and learning a lot in a short amount of time.

@thefeili 3 года назад

Having done 2 years of banking, it's basically because banks mostly make money from finance groups. On the flip side, at a lot of tech firms, especially startups, finance functions are considered second class citizens because the main function of the company will revolve around engineering.

@IcejjfishTbone 3 года назад

The hours aren’t usually 80-100 hours. However when you are expected to be able to work that long. The hours get progressively less, when you rank up (IB is pretty much a video game where you try to level up). However since you are literally making more money than you know what to do with. Most people just save, and quit lol. IB is good for someone willing to work insane hours and make a lot of money. I’m a workaholic, so without working 70-100 hours. I feel incomplete

@itsmichaelonthemove 3 года назад

I did a software engineering internship at Barclays Investment Bank in NYC. Good money. Good perks. Loved living in the East Village. But at the end of the day, the rockstars in IB are the folks upstairs (hint: the ones with MBAs). Decided to go to a place where engineers are the rockstars. Made all the difference.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Can totally relate! Yeah it really does make a huge difference - a lot of it is quite covert too.

@GarlicOasis 3 года назад

Is an MBAreally that important in IB? a good % of Goldman Sachs lifers who are now managing directors don't have it.

@klamentyne5991 3 года назад

I would've thought MBA isn't necessarily a prerequisite to get into Investment Banking though?

@DuduTheDoraAmon 3 года назад

i was invited to a Barclays front office hiring dinner.... omg the M&A guys are just so obnoxious, the only lady I liked, seems like someone I would enjoy working with is from research. And the Other front office guys treated her with so little respect, mid dinner I ordered wine and had some fun chat with people from other courses and left.... 😁😁😁

@reneepuvvada 3 года назад

I'm also experiencing similar frustration. What kind of places did you look/how did you look for companies where engineers are the rockstars? lol

@AfzalHussein 3 года назад

Solid video. Honest, no BS, straight to the point. Thanks for sharing! Have subbed :D

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Yay I’m so glad you like it ❤️❤️

@HqComphelpqH 3 года назад

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@markugbah1320 3 года назад

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@billdolphin4605 3 года назад

AYE AFZAL

@KenJee_ds 3 года назад

Really cool to hear about your experience! I know you were just lured by the "fancy food"

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

obvs

@iffyschannel 3 года назад

Oh! I watch your videos

@KenJee_ds 3 года назад

@@iffyschannel :)

@adekolaali5075 3 года назад

@ken jee was here 😋

@duhtuurlijk 3 года назад

May I ask you if you would consider making use of PySpark instead of learning Scala for data scientists starting with Apache Spark? I don't know (or didn't listen well enough..) in what year you started doing your internship, but do you think Scala is still the preferred language for Spark?

@harry8175ritchie 3 года назад

It's crazy how much corporate hides its internal structure.

@duckmeat4674 3 года назад

@@eduardkoch5213 lol using chinese spyware browser

@IuliaFeroli 3 года назад

thank you for sharing Tina! Indeed finding a culture that fits you at a company is a suuuuper important aspect you don't really think about until you either find a really bad match or a really great one :) (boo to hierarchy!)

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Yesss!! Haha it’s something that I think people don’t really think about that much (me included) but it matters so much after you actually get in

@blackmask6169 3 года назад

Honestly im so glad youtube recommended me this RU-vid channel, i think im getting so much knowledge just by watching your videos since im about to apply for internship aswell. Hope it goes well

@claireswadling2965 3 года назад

Thank you so much for this informative video! I thought it would be just another vague recap of an internship, but I really liked how you covered all the different aspects of your time there, including your work. This is very beneficial! Thanks a million

@eliyalee1684 3 года назад

Respect for chasing your passion instead of the prestige

@eduardkoch5213 3 года назад

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@johnwig285 2 года назад

@@mauvehawaii nope it is BOTH prestige and passion, a win win for her as she managed to land a data science job, not some finance job

@djtk6921 3 года назад

Your explanation for why prestige mattered to you, absolutely nailed me. I feel so exposed.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

😭😭

@nIrUbU01 3 года назад

I kinda had the reverse experience lol, my "appreciation for prestige" has been growing constantly despite my confidence and expertise increasing at the same time

@mariawilliams571 3 года назад

Thanks for the insight! It's good to be prepared for that hierarchy, and also good to know that there are people like you who know they won't thrive in that environment and have the courage to leave. It is not that way everywhere, and the "well that's the way it is" mentality does not help anyone. Congrats on your clear head and good luck with your career.

@Impactframess 3 года назад

i cant stop staring at your hair. its like chaotically healthy,

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Wow that is the best compliment that I’ve ever received 🙈❤️ haha for reals tho my hair has been like this since I was a kid and I’ve given up on taming it 😅

@crystal14w 3 года назад

I had to do anomaly detection for a POC and liked the isolation forest method too! I’m glad you decided on a management consulting path 😄 👏

@DABx___ 3 года назад

Only halfway and this is a great video! You explained everything simply which shows your depth of understanding and provided your unique insight. Thank you!

@DataProfessor 3 года назад

Great video Tina, thanks for sharing! I agree with several others in the comment section that hierarchy + prestige can be a source of positive and negative energy. Sounds like high school all over again. Thanks for the insights!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Yay it's Data Professor!! Yeah it really is haha and I definitely don't do well in that kind of environment 😅

@michael-bz5qz 3 года назад

were the generation of "screw this job"

@MihaiPinzariu 3 года назад

amen brother

@cheesball96 3 года назад

😂 Love that

@fathercrellick 3 года назад

this is really refreshing to hear tbh. thanks for sharing!

@kevin-carr 3 года назад

Editing was great and the video was fast paced (in a good way) and full of content. Great job on the video! I actually have to learn Scala too for my new rule. Wish me luck 😂

@bettys7298 3 года назад

Yes, it's insightful. Thank you for sharing this with us!

@eduardkoch5213 3 года назад

drive.google.com/folderview?id=1YP_-yqhS3_exi6Kfo8Gq82qIyMlJy6_V

@DataProfessor 3 года назад

Hey Tina, congrats on 10K! 🥳

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Thank you Data Professor ❤️❤️

@andrewsokulski8922 3 года назад

I came into finance as my first job after my MA in International Affairs. I haven’t had these exact experiences. But it is definitely interesting to watch this now considering what happened in the news with GS

@mehnaz8949 3 года назад

Hey Tina! This video was so informative and entertaining. It was a pleasant surprise to come up in my feed ☺️

@AL3X2011 3 года назад

I mean, maybe one day engineers will realize their worth and quit. Let's be real, modern banks and other financial institutions would tank without software developers and data scientists.

@nigirizushi533 3 года назад

Very true!

@user-og9nl5mt1b 3 года назад

They can just import people from India and asian countries , u can quit if you want . But don't underestimate how many unemployed smart people there are in asia

@AL3X2011 3 года назад

@@user-og9nl5mt1b they can’t really do that as the US is currently trying to invest in its future.

@dhruvshounak5516 3 года назад

I am currently studying physics chemistry and maths in school but i like maths more and it relatively easy for me( i am good at it especially calculus) so i am thinking of studying economics. your assumption that without people in STEM banks would collapse is debatable but i got what you are saying

@AL3X2011 3 года назад

@@dhruvshounak5516 you think banking systems could run on excel files? Cause that’s what you’re gonna get without programmers

@TheShiroWing 3 года назад

To be fair there’s hierarchy in almost all larger organizations. It’s not about prestige or the title, but how close you are to the money. You can join a tech company where engineers are the ones bringing in money and you feel like you’re being treated fairly. But there’s almost always someone below like marketing or some other cost center that always get shit on and get laid off before engineers in times like COVID. Your problem at GS isn’t about hierarchy, it’s the fact that GS isn’t really a fin tech at its core and doesn’t value tech as much as you like.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Perfectly put!

@AmanSharma-kq4rb 3 года назад

This was actually quite insightful. Thanks for sharing your experience!

@rykermadron8173 3 года назад

This was so open and honest, thank you for the great insight

@reidflood 3 года назад

Great explanation, Tina! Really enjoyed the video! Organizational hierarchies span industries and sectors. I only have experience in the public sector, so I can't speak to the nuances of other's, but the concepts are pretty much the same. If you're in a business unit, then the people that directly contribute to whatever the work of that business unit is are typically going to be catered to more. Anything else is a support role and not central to that business unit. Those support roles could be business centric in other business units and their dynamics are vastly different than in the support functions.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

I’m so glad you liked it! And that’s a great explanation and makes a ton of sense. There really needs to be a conscious action for the company to prevent it from happening I think

@cloudchamois7004 3 года назад

Very interesting to hear about your experience! Thank you for sharing!

@MrAdhito 3 года назад

8:36 dang that sound really caught me off guard, Nice video btw.

@ieatpaintchips72 2 года назад

I love this video. This is my favorite of all your videos!

@btee23 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing info about the hierarchy. I worked as a contractor at a company and it sucked feeling like a second class citizen

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Oh man I’m so sorry to hear that. I worked alongside some contractors too and definitely could see that too :(

@annajones9701 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 do they care..they are still getting $$$ paid..they can take their money invest what they like

@jacktrainer4387 3 года назад

Your project sounds fascinating. As someone with a finance background, the hierarchy exists at every firm and totally sucks. That took real strength of character to say no to the top investment bank. Well done! Totally sharing this with a former investment banker friend, he'll probably say you were the most awesome person in that building at the time. Best of luck!

@kseniaksu4007 3 года назад

I just want to say thank you for sharing this. I am coming from the same background of software engineering, but especially now in coronavirus times i realized i just cannot handle Total Isolation at this point, it brought me to physical damage mentally, in mental processes. I used to like coding, but the older i get - the more i started craving communication. I quit recently and no longer work in a tech role and came on your channel looking for suggestions, and management consulting might be it, we will see, but definitely not the solely and purely technical roles anymore.

@yy4770 5 месяцев назад

Update? Did you make the switch into consulting?

@insigh01 3 года назад

Great information! Corporate hierarchy is one of the pivotal factors in me starting my DS journey. Thanks Tina!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

So glad you liked it ❤️Totally can relate!!

@CodingJesus 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing your experience!

@bym21223 3 года назад

You re awesome!! Keep these great videos up.

@JH-pz3kc 3 года назад

Really helpful video! Thank you Tina :)

@harshvardhanranvirsingh9473 3 года назад

This channel is amazing!!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

thank you so much!! :D

@DJWizat 3 года назад

For anyone young the company will alway treat you better the closer you are to the revenue. It’s the same at other companies Marketing and Sales get treated better than IT or HR. And the closer you are to the revenue the more perks you get. Say you are in HR but support Sales then you will prob get invited to the Convention .

@bidness3967 3 года назад

I had a similar experience in regards to finding out I wanted to work in a team environment with a little more human interaction. I always worked by myself and didn’t talk to anyone else unless it was a fellow intern or my boss checking in on me.

@Shdnfncidjen 3 года назад

Great video you're a great speaker and storyteller!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Thank you!

@chudchadanstud 3 года назад

You signed uo for a Corpo. Luckily I used to work as a waiter in these corpo events while studying and I got to see these hierarchies. After graduation I avoided Corpos like the plague.

@bayroncastillo7653 3 года назад

WOW ! Tina you are on FIre ! keep it up ! proud of you !

@CallofDutyBO2player 3 года назад

This was a great video. Thank you

@BEV-yz9ji 3 года назад

could you make some advice for learning data analyst? what kind of online class or website would you recommend to start from? thank you for sharing your experience!!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Will look into this!! Thanks for suggesting :)

@hassanal-sherbaz990 3 года назад

Thanks Tina. Really interesting to hear how you had a similar experience. I definitely learned alot about myself as well whilst meeting some cool people. The prestige really deaded the vibe at GS, no matter how many times they said the words "flat structure" and "meritocracy". From a fellow Summer 2019 GS London intern.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

HI FELLOW INTERN!! Haha omg you guys too 😂 I can’t count how many times they said flat structure, meritocracy, restructuring by discipline so that everybody sits together etc etc. to their credit they are trying to change eg. dress code changes too! But it definitely will take time since it’s so ingrained in the culture....

@kanishkchaturvedi1745 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing. Helped me at a low point

@vivianyam66 3 года назад

Your experience reminds me of an article I read called “Biographies of Hedgemony” by Karen Ho. It mentions the prestige you talk about within those Wall Street companies.

@Taeshawol 3 года назад

I think the trade off to not being invited to a bunch of events is actually liking your team and work! The prestige and hierarchy is a lot more prevalent for the investment bankers and sales and traders. Although you get treated more importantly, you probably also hate your life a lot more.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

LOL ‘treated more importantly and also hate your life more’ this is the sentiment that I’ve gotten from all the IB and S&T people I’ve met haha. Very true! I think it did probably bother me quite a lot because it also somewhat gets internalized and when you work with these other functions they just kinda look down on you. Does that make sense? Just the overall structure of the company is a bit depressing IMO

@Taeshawol 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 Yeah it's to compensate their resentment towards the work hours and lifestyle hahaha. Sadly though, this hierarchy/toxic culture is pretty common across all investment banks. The closer to the revenue you are, the more arrogant unfortunately - speaking from experience from observing my colleagues as an IB intern in the past.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Ahh yeah I’m not surprised at all :(

@joshi1q2w3e 3 года назад

When you were learning Scala for a week and figuring out everything you need to pull that Data, did they say anything to you while you were just learning? I’m assuming they want you to be doing actual work and learning on your own time? Did they get mad or dissatisfied that you had to learn stuff they expect you to know?

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Great question! No they were really nice about it and they already knew that I didn’t know since I never listed it on my resume. I took my time and they were totally cool with it :) I really did like my team a lot 😊

@parishabhatia3715 3 года назад

Thank you so much great video!

@Uniquecapture 3 года назад

I don't think I have ever heard someone who had an internship at Goldman Sachs say a good word about it. My son was aiming at this and changed his mind thank god.

@tzu4265 3 года назад

Hi Tina, really some interesting perspectives on how it's like to work with the big guys. Super frustrating with the hierachy. On the other side would i be supriced, if i heard they had a flat structere. Looking back, would you have chosen Amazon if you knew how the intern would have been?

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

That’s a great question. I think I would have still chosen Goldman Sachs tbh because the work is more aligned with what I want to do ie. data science. Also I feel like I would have always wondered what it would be like to work in finance haha. It also makes me appreciate my current work environment so much more too now 😂

@tzu4265 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 Thank you for the quick responce. It makes perfect sense. 😄

@millertime6 3 года назад

I kind of figured you wouldn’t want to go back there! I work in finance now and it’s a tough environment. Awesome video!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Ooo yeah I definitely saw that! And I’m so glad you liked it ❤️❤️

@Leechizzle1 2 года назад

I interned at Goldman Sachs (London) years ago. I remember at some point during the first week, they brought out sandwiches etc for the interns to have for lunch and network. But when the tech interns tried to have some, the HR people (or HCM as they like to call themselves) got very aggressive to us. Turns out, the food was just for the Securities (trading) interns and we had to leave and walk down the street and buy our own lunches. There is definitely a hierarchy. As a software engineer, you will have the best experience at a company that is tech or prioritises tech. I also recently found out about the pay differences of software engineers at investment banks vs tech firms and I feel like I have been living under a rock this whole time. I have worked at other investment banks, but now pivoting into actual tech.

@wilsonman8661 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing, Tina. It seems you're in a much better place now, which is great. :D However, this was entirely unsurprising unfortunately. Scrolled through the comments a bit and it seems I'm not the only one to say this. Thankfully I didn't experience it firsthand, but this is everything I heard and read myself when I was looking into getting an MBA and researching post-MBA careers.

@seunadekunle2146 3 года назад

Great video! Thank you for sharing your experience. I was wondering what year of undergrad did you acquire this internship? Also did you secure any internships the summer after your freshman year?

@JoshMadakor 3 года назад

I bet this took f'ing forever to edit. ~10-12 hours? Great video :)

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

I’m so glad you liked it because spot on! Haha I’m seriously considering hiring an editor to help me with some of it so pls hmu if you know anyone 😭😭

@JoshMadakor 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 Lmao, I'll let you know. I need one too though 😂

@davidmasupa4072 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 I might know someone... Let me know if you're still looking, so I make an intro :)

@Traumatised311 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 Byron is a free lance editor he also has a youtube channel

@trevorNYC 7 месяцев назад

I was also in the new analyst tech program at GS. Good memories. I only stayed for two years before leaving. The hierarchy is real - it never goes away.

@kemingyu4266 3 года назад

Wait, didn't consulting have equal levels of or even more hierarchy than IB?

@vvalk2vvalk 3 года назад

It's similar, but the culture isn't as focused on "Prestige" and $$$ as it is in IB.

@kemingyu4266 3 года назад

@@vvalk2vvalk Fair point

@chuy_chuy 3 года назад

I like your transitions examples

@sibongiencube1310 3 года назад

Hie Tina how were the working hours? did you work the same hours as the front office who work for around 16 hours per day? I have a finance background and starting my masters in data science and I am researching about the various industries i can work in.

@minhphan4241 3 года назад

“The only competitor in your life should be yourselves.” :)))

@shivangijeet4481 3 года назад

Although my experience was virtual but it was somewhat similar to what you mentioned ... thanks for sharing :)

@antonioolivares7691 3 года назад

My experience was also virtual, but for me, it was fantastic! c:

@shivangijeet4481 3 года назад

@@antonioolivares7691 ya mine too

@adamsusel3801 3 года назад

Any tips on finding smaller quant firms to do internships at? The big ones like Goldman, etc. are just so competitive. I would love to try my hand at the field and I feel like some smaller firms would be better to explore. But idk how to find the names of these places lol

@oots_ 3 года назад

Hey! honest, straight video. loved it. would love to know how'd you interview for management consulting roles without an MBA? What and how exactly did you prepare for it. Thanks!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

So glad you enjoyed it!! ❤️ mm so I think I was kinda lucky that I went to UPenn and it’s a target school for these companies. I was able to get almost all my interviews on campus by the visiting companies. The reason that I completely bombed everything tho is that I didn’t actually prepare 🙈 but I eventually did get my sh*t together and prepped with mocks and frameworks :)

@reneepuvvada 3 года назад

Check out YT channel "Neel and Rohit". They talk about this, and help people who didn't go to target schools

@dliciousgurl41 3 года назад

I knew someone in real life that also told me they absolutely hated working for GS

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Aww yeah I think people need to consider company culture way more when choosing a job because in the end that’s what matters on the day to day

@OndrejSojka 3 года назад

Really insightful video, thanks for this. Now I have a much better idea about what it's actually like within a competitive environment like this

@mehedihasan-ui6qt 3 года назад

When you go in a top tier place this is what happens. Like getting into Harvard & later finding out you are not the smartest among your classmates feels shitty.

@KarlDahlquist 3 года назад

Thank you for posting

@nischaylando4132 3 года назад

been here since 1,000 subs!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Thank you so much 😊

@jeffzhang3409 3 года назад

exactly same experience as my intern in another bank. Tech firms are always the best for coders

@janeyang4121 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing! I reached out via linkedin :)

@Lionheartx02 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing your experience

@errerieelary7093 3 года назад

wait by strats do you mean like GM strats/Corporate Treasury strats etc ?

@gow2ilove 3 года назад

Lucky enough to work in tech and front office in an investment bank. Now in the buy side in a front office role. To anyone thinking about it, don't go into tech at a bank. It's a dead end job from the start. Either work for a company local to you or if you're going to move to a big city, try and get into a buy side firm, or just a tech company.

@nikhildhamija464 3 года назад

That is so accurate, that's how I feel at my current job.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

🥲

@MPS72192 3 года назад

I interned in GSAM and I swear everything you said was a mirror image to my own experience. Only difference was my manager ripped me half way into the internship and straight up told me that I’m not good enough to work for GS 🤷‍♂️

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Yooo wtf...I’m so sorry man that sucks. Well I guess you can think of it as a blessing in disguise. If they’re gonna treat people that way when you’re just an intern imagine how they treat their employees 😭

@MPS72192 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 Yeah she told me and I quote "maybe sometime in the future you might be good enough, but right now you are definitely not GS material". She told me that in one of the MD offices that was overlooking the trading floor and I couldn't even speak. I held back tears and I went down to that river past the Conrad hotel near the ferry, and sat on a bench and cried my eyes out the rest of the day. I was broke. My dreams crashed right in front of me. Btw I came from a non-target school so front office internships like that at GS were not a thing. I networked my way to get that role. That's the only way I got it. Honestly, I don't have a youtube public channel or anything like you do, but everything you brought up was SOO true and I really wish I had a platform for some of the things I saw that summer. I never got the return offer but I would like to shed some light on the situation because there is so much shit that goes on there that people don't see on the inside.

@MPS72192 3 года назад

I'm sorry if this sounds like an opportunity for self-promotion, but I would really love the chance to maybe make a video on your channel with you and just discuss our experience there because, from the people I spoke with, I feel like some students need to hear what really happens when you the full-time offer there. If that isn't something you are interested in, I totally get it but I don't have a channel or anything so I don't have anything to gain. I would just like a platform to tell people about my experience and what it's really like to work front office at GS. If not, I totally understand :) after all, I am just some random guy commenting on your video lol. Either way, love this video, you def have a new sub!

@shuang3816 3 года назад

Great video - thanks for sharing! Curious to know more about your consulting interview experience and what made you gravitate towards a data scientist role in the end.

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Haha I should make a video! Long story short I didn’t know you actually had to prepare for consulting interviews (I know I know) and failed every single one until I desperately applied to whatever I could...and this role I was told is kinda like internal consulting :) so I’m very very happy how things turned out

@yara7405 2 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 I'm actually interested in consulting! Could you further explain by having to "prepare" for them? Like I don't even know what exact sector I would like to get into for consulting so how should one act in consulting interviews? thanks

@aligh18 3 года назад

This is crazy. I thought I was different for going from pre-med -> research (MPhil) -> data science (MSc)!

@rsachoc 2 года назад

Community Teamworks is the "give back to the community" initiative. You would have be required to perform an activity such as cleaning someplace, painting.

@YingcredibleTips 3 года назад

Noticed you've added those b rolls. Where did you find them? They make your videos very clear!

@sukhamritsingh3420 3 года назад

Another video crossed 100k views 😊 so happy for you

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

thank you!! 😊😊 I can barely believe it 🙈

@adrian_ncm 3 года назад

"I assume that it's the people that care about prestige that do. Again, not gonna lie, back then I cared a lot more about prestige because I was a lot more insecure about my abilities and didn't really know what to do with my life. So prestige was a way to prove to myself and others that I was doing well." You aptly put into words something I, and a lot of other people, are facing but can't seem to realise completely (or maybe don't want to). Thank you for being honest with us, being transparent and mindful about yourself like that is not only difficult but requires humility. I don't doubt that some people in Goldman really love the work that they do and don't mind the hierarchy, but you've confidently said it's fine to say no to a prestigious job simply because you think it's not for you. I could never pull myself to do that because I care too much about reputation and prestige. I should be myself and live my life for myself, not for others. Your confidence and mindfulness is infectious and acted as a push for me. Confidence is not the guarantee of your ability but your willingness to try. I will dare to fail from now on and take it easy. Thank you very much Tina!

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

Your comment just made my day :) ❤️❤️

@DakariAntoine 3 года назад

What great insight! Thanks for the video, I subscribed about half way through :) Question though, is "strats" essentially the same thing as "quants" at other banks, hedge funds or firms?

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

So glad you enjoyed it! Yup - it’s very similar. The only nuance is that some quants trade and strats generally don’t. That’s just my understanding though! Haha I may be wrong

@DakariAntoine 3 года назад

@@TinaHuang1 Gotcha! thanks for the reply

@cc-xt2os 3 года назад

crazy, thanks for sharing.

@xanthirudha 3 года назад

You are a legend Tina

@avishekbiswas4121 3 года назад

Your internship sounds very similar to actuarial work. I study actuarial science and we use a lot similar lingo like unsupervised model, seasonality, data extracting/ wrangling etc.

@MrTopparwear 3 года назад

Omg, it is data science.....

@albroz6731 3 года назад

Actuaries > Data scientists

@ashleyvu8388 3 года назад

hey, I love your vids! Can you please do one about your UPenn IT experience :)

@TinaHuang1 3 года назад

I have :)

@namahshrestha3226 3 года назад

I love it when geniuses talk about getting FAANG(ish) jobs like its a walk in the park and not liking them. I hope someday I get good enough to have options like these.

@eduardkoch5213 3 года назад

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@namahshrestha3226 3 года назад

@@eduardkoch5213 what was this?

@priyankachoudhary3694 2 года назад

Thanks for this

@chacmool2581 3 года назад

Yeah, I hear ya ... I also hated the big stipend, great perks, fancy workplace and the prestige...

@blackamericanlesbianprofes4357 3 года назад

I see your video in my RU-vid suggestions. Thank you for sharing your experience. I have subscribed to your channel. I remember seeing a Ken Jee post including you on LinkedIn a few months ago. Goldman Sachs is an Investment Bank company so I can see why certain job positions are more boosted. I am age 36 International (Black American) student at a UK University; I have returned to University for a career change. My degree programme is BSc Accounting and Finance. And a coding beginner. I want my next careers to hopefully be Forensic Accountant and Data Engineer. Date Stamp: 17jan21.

@thestreamer1481 3 года назад

insightful .. thats the one

@beckybernard9409 3 года назад

Nice video. Am stuck between learning cloud computing and data science. Which of them is preferable as a career choice? Awaiting your prompt response...

@duhtuurlijk 3 года назад

I can chime in: cloud computing at the moment is booming because a lot of companies are making the strategic decision to migrate to cloud, either AWS or Azure, including the large traditional companies. For money you could choose this path and learn about architectures like microservices and cloud security. I believe data scientist/ engineers can perform at their best on a cloud platform, the tools and managed services relief you of a lot of work besides transforming and analyzing the data. Career paths for cloud data science are already out there for the aforementioned platforms. Just follow some courses on Udemy and learn about cloud technology overall to make yourself acquainted with the differences between each platform. Good luck!

@stephanrogers8947 3 года назад

Everyone wants to be appreciated. If you come in and people that are on your level...that start at the same time you do...and aren't any better than you get promoted or special treatment, it's not fair. In a work environment, your status should depend on your merits. Feeling unappreciated is terrible and clearly that was their culture from the beginning. You took a more mature/accurate stance by decided not to work there than your peers likely did. Good job. Also, it sounds like you realized that women are super social relative to men in general, so you were able to take your needs into account which is amazing. Most people are just enslaved by their job and suffer.

@ZoeyCLR78 3 года назад

Sounds like this place my sister worked at called Money Matters. The hierarchy and disparity in pay among minorities working there, made her feel just like you did with all the 'prestige'. The way she and other minorities working were treated was total discrimination and she couldn't do anything about it.