Interview with Product Manager in 2024 [Corporate] 

That's why AAA games nowadays are garbage. Almost all great games started off by a bunch of nerds who loves video games (like Ultima Online, Diablo etc.) Now though, it's different...

@@ozturkberkayy that and because parent companies want video games to fail on purpose so that they can sell them off for quick money for investors

I've worked in tech for 20 years. Every time the company hires a non technical manager to manage technical people, I start looking for a new job. I started recently managing technical people and finally understand why bad decisions and unrealistic timelines get pushed onto employees: managers that don't have technical skill are incompetent and unable to fully understand problems.

One of my colleagues used to work for Blizzard too! She was there more recently (within 10 years) and said it wasn't even the sexism that made her move on (though it was really bad), she said what was way worse was the way they worked them all raw with unreasonable hours and terrible conditions. Tbh this is a systemic issue for way more than just the videogame industry. Business schoolers and the senior management caste know the price of everything and the value of nothing, so it's no wonder that the actual artistic and cultural merit of games, music, cinema and TV are suffering at the hands of Josh Doe and his cult of the dollar. When everything is just a cost-benefit analysis, we inevitably end up in a race to the bottom: the most insipid, lukewarm, diluted product possible, delivered at the lowest possible price, to the widest possible audience that is only just barely, barely palatable enough for the consumer to pull out their wallet and buy it. The worst thing is when people falsely attribute this to DEI and progressive movements. No, that's unrelated, that's the marketing deparment deciding to capitalise on pinkwashing their corporation. Rainbow spraypaint isn't the issue. It's the economics of it. We're minmaxing society, and it's hell.

to be fair as an avid wow player, i woudnt let my kids play wow either

Is there a Diablo joke here I wonder

Emotional damage, not a joke.

It's not even funny any more. This is too real . . .

The founders of a product I built didn’t use the product for at least the first year 😂 the product was their core business income!

So real

In the enterprise you have to choose what you are going to lose. Ethics or Hope or Sanity, you start with ethics and hope and sanity, but you can only keep 2 of them. I lost all my hope in one job, then I regained it and lost all my sanity in another job. Then I regained it and now I shove down ethics on the drain, I didn't create this stupid game. I am not sane and hopeful, without any ethics ! Either way they take your soul. (maybe I really lost it all and have no hope, sanity or ethics anymore, such is the life)

@@monad_tcpprofile picture checks out

Too fuckin real lol

It's some curse on humanity, it's not that enterprises are doing this because they are intrinsically evil, but it's the only way to succeed in life...

@@monad_tcp I stood my ground on all 3 and got fired.

i need this as a mug STAT! 😂

Also "We can't expand the infrastructure, I'm already used to Trello"

This one actually hurt me when he said it because... I mean... we've all been there...

Beware, young Padawan. Politics over progress leads to stagnation. Processes over logic leads to inflexibility. Emotions over processes leads to chaos. And OKRs over all... that is the path to the dark side of management.

The access request has to go through 6 different departments. All of which are disorganized, underfunded, and bloated with nonsense (aimed at appeasing VPs); and none of which have any incentive to approve your request.

that's not agile. agile is dead. it has been eaten by egomaniac bureaucrats and what they shat out is what we now call "agile".

I did a corporate internship where I had nothing to do for 2 weeks because I was waiting for database permissions.

over 2 payed months

Corporations are great at burning money.

He told an worker that they needed to check with corporate security. This obviously doesn't apply to him.

I'm not surprised it went past security...

@@James-nd2yk clarification: I’m surprised cyberSec gave their blessing for this video to be uploaded given our organizations data classification policy…

Dilbert without all the racism

@@adogmn , Dilbert never had any racism. Nice try, comrade.

​@@TheBashar327 dilbert has become tainted with racism due to the author's outspokenly racist views.

@@ellielikesmath , the Dilbert's author's views are not racist taken in full context. There's more racism coming from the Left the past few years- do you call that out. You can't live inside your little bubble trying to speak into existence a fantasy. Try again, comrade.

@@ellielikesmath , the author's views are not racist if you understood the context of them. No more than any black person talking about "white America". Even black people have commented the same and many have agreed with Adams. There's more credibility to President Joe Biden and Justice Sotomayor being racists than Scott Adams. Try looking at the world with a critical adult mind rather than a child's mind spoonfed on what to think.

i don't understand why do they do it though? Like aren't things supposed to be smooth or something?

He could have added: "I'm gonna ignore all Jira tickets or bug reports not filed by me, and in three months I'm gonna present, to upper management, the handful of irrelevant Jira tickets that I created and buried, and pretend that was all the work that was done or had to be done this quarter." I've learned that the best strategy as a developer is to make sure about 1 week before some sort of quarterly review to go through all the irrelevant and trivial tickets filed by product / project managers and do them (which is usually very quick and easy) to keep everyone happy and off your back so you can do the real work. You don't want to do them as soon as they are filed, though, because that will just bring more irrelevant work your way. And if you had to hack the feature in and it later gets in the way of other things, you can just remove it and I guarantee you no product manager will ever notice it's gone.

first time I saw this guys videos I also thought this is real and only just veeery slightly odd

Pretty sure *every* company that practices SAFe ends up doing this. I worked for a company that spent millions on agile trainings, millions more on switching us all to SAFe... and then fired every single agile delivery lead.

@@GSBarlev Let me guess, the CTO is a Gen X career salesman that has never worked in tech? That's the case in the little slice of hell I am in now.

@@Eagle3302PL This company's culture very much is business analysts and consultants all the way up to the top. McKinsey, Deloitte, Booz-Allen... very much revolving doors when it comes to leadership's prior stints.

I work at the company that invented OKRs, and they just brought back in OKRs a couple of years ago - it's the stupidest waste of time I've ever seen in my entire life

What is OKRs?

Traumatizing sound...

@@sylvan186 The morning stand-up humiliation ritual sound

Haha brilliant and sad 😢​@@nocturne6320

That got me off guard !! So rude !!!

You can actually change it, i found out that recently. It helps with mental health

Not knowing creates leisure time.

The more certificates the more you are entitled to do little

Especially if you compare it to the effort made... xD

To be fair I know some of managers who work long hours. I'm not sure what they do and we would probably be better off if they were all fired, but they do put in hours.

I see you were inspired by Nvidia marketing :)

I'm always dressed to jog to the office, but I like to stay ready to pivot in case I want to traverse a glacier

Ok, but is his name Chris?

Bruhh the product director at my org has one. Apparently it's a thing now loool.

I snort-laughed at this.

When you plan your waterfall tasks in two-week chunks, it becomes ✨Agile✨

Also loved the “Mmmmmmmicrosoft”

Repeat after me: Atlassian Atlassian Mmmmicrosoft Salesforce

RU-vid added a "Translate to English" under your comment for me. When I click it, the text doesn't change, at all. JIRA

@@Unga_Bunga processes over logic

Gov orgs are king at it, between the embezzlement and the insane amount of paperwork needed to justify every cent, you'll get that vibe all the time.

@@nonamehere1626 exactly, someone at the finance ministry comes up like "yeah here's your yearly budget, it's fucking nothing, we gotta slash expenses somehow" and then the person goes out to buy another ivory backscratcher for themselves as another piece of plaster falls down, that is precisely the experience i am having

Well it's kind of. Many freaks now like to use it "to visually organize", but it's a waste of time, by having it in the company pushes people to make all sort of unnecessary graphs, presentations and whatever, subtracting even more time from what really matters (designing into detail and developing the product).

Haha, engineers using the product, good one.

@@jankoodziej877 He meant as a punishment.

They're really really good with excel though

I'm ded

Why are most scrum masters useless... I don't understand.

this should be the top comment

@@mertzanakia Not really because Kai already did two of those, "Interview with an Agile Coach - Sprint1" and -Sprint 2. It's even with the same character, "Josh Doe".

Sick cat got me, this week IRL stand-ups had it lol

This sounds like us, except the scrum masters were too expensive so we got rid of them 😂😂

Thats a next year project for me! Would been this year, but a team said they’d do it for us without knowing what we did or requirements. I told boss well, delaying this a year helps me & not our fault. 6m in, this team finally ask us for requirements. 3 weeks later they gave up 😂 (they go’n build for someone else)

I have seen an excel sheet that was basically an almost complete back-office solution for an e-commerce platform. I think it might have been only missing the possibility to send emails. It worked like a dedicated GUI with menus, views, etc. I think it was built by a single person. I started to wonder whether Excel might be the best tool for prototyping software.

@@adhalianna I did that for an IMS. Now I'm working out my plan to build it into a webapp :D

​@@adhaliannaExcel, you have your database right there. Your gui. Your formulas are the back-end. No need for apis. Security and authorisation? -> protected fields. VBA is the perfect design language. I swear this could be a sketch on this channel.

@@adhalianna Ever since Excel got VBA (30 years ago), it became a complete and comprehensive RAD environment. Not only that, but most of the VBA scripts can just be moved to a new VB6 project, if you want to make it a real application. Easy, fast, streamlined. It's barely any work, you spend more time arranging buttons on forms. Most people just don't learn how to use it, your example sounds like a good exception.

He won’t understand it, he never experienced this life. If he would understand, he would talk differently about agile. Poor guy has no reference..

Poor or lucky, I am not sure which one.

Excuse me... Neovim!

Probably never even heard about Power Automate, Tableau and stuff...

They would wonder why the company hasn't completely refactored its code to implement some unecessary performance optimization using a cheeky novel algorithm they memorized off leetcode.

Nah.. trillions. This is management, at large!

Didn't you know, the future of humanity is: managment. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-veZU_uj9x1g.html

On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, get rid of him and see how far the other time waters manage to get without him...

Fr. I was playing with an LLM, and it turns out if you're toxic to it, it becomes *extremely toxic* right back.

@@GSBarlev Depends on the model. Some can take your toxicity all day long, every day of the year, no weekends off and spit out spectacularly polite responses. But you're in trouble if you start talking like that to real human beings after getting accustomed to it. The human is always the weak link.

fucking SharePoint ☠

Then "You need permissions to access this site". "I'd like access, please."

​@@AGLubangAsk any site collection owner if they know where these requests for access are waiting for them and no-one will know.

Unless you are paid very well or otherwise enjoy the work, that sounds like grounds to sod off somewhere else.

@@lawrencemanning I'm starting to think so as well.

True story: I once build the controls for a manufacturing test fixture in excel macros. That was in the days before VBA as the scripting language. "Mistakes were made"😮😂

Yeah.. no touching Jira is pain. Programmers basically have to self govern...

hahahaha

You’re not. I’m waiting for SharePoint access since two weeks, looking at JIRA tickets, unable to move them due to lack of permissions.

"I'd like access, please."

At my last job I had issues being able to actually close out Jira tickets. I could implement and send to quality, but couldn't close it out any further. We also didn't have any automated testing, although they were working on it. Yeah, that place was a mess.