Delainey Hayles, who played Claudia, says while she is burning despite hating him, Lestat is the one person she trusts in the room, and she thinking, "dad HELP me." I cried.
In the book, Lestat held on to her yellow dress. After Santiago picks it up from the pile of ash, he probably gave it to Lestat. In the books, Lestat was haunted (sometimes literally) by Claudias death. He revisited the house they shared together and saw her ghost. Louis was never the same. It's why Armand eventually leaves him. Louis never gets over it.
"can i cry and say that i'm sorry, too?" was an incredible line from claudia. she just knows even if she did, she'd never be afforded the same grace as lestat, from that audience or any other
And that goes for the ACTUAL audience of this show apparently. There are a lot of people saying that Claudia was annoying and that she had to go. Those same people also are turning Louis in favor of Lestat and saying that Louis never truly loved Claudia. Like…what?
@@tariqthomas9090to be fair, Claudia did a lot of questionable things, especially in season one, that annoyed me and possibly others. It seems a lot of people forgot her not only killing masses of people and irresponsibly disposing of them, but almost intentionally leading the police to their house out of spite of Lestat and Louis. She came to hate them both for making her, and decided to do anything she could to ruin them. She became determined to split up their relationship. Lestat was right. She was a skilled predator. She fucked off for seven years, leaving Louis broken and depressed, strolls back in and gives a half as apology and tells Louis to leave his husband who stuck by him during those seven years. She sensed the fragility of their relationship, and went in for the kill. And then people wonder why it set off a huge blow out fight.
@@cullenarthur8879 in fact, everything was inaccurate. just from reading that comment it's obvious your image of claudia is one that comes from ignorance. you talk about these things that annoyed you like they didn't directly originate from louis and lestat's negligence and you sound like that is enough reason not to properly take a look at her character. also acting like what louis and lestat do all throughout the series isn't abysmally worse (and unjustifiable altogether) than a teenage phase claudia had when she was feeling lonely and was seeking a companion because of, again, her parents. she ESCAPED lestat's abuse and louis chose to stay; claudia did NOT abandon louis, she begged him to go with her. you are simply proving op's point
I just wanna know when Armand is gonna stop lying!!! He is the oldest, most powerful vampire in that town. He couldn’t destroy that vampire “blocking” him? He put that entire coven to sleep at the restaurant. He didn’t want to do anything more than what he did.
Armand saying he was as much a captive is crazy. This man slept the whole coven at that dinner party with ease and paused time at the same time and Louis believed Armand was captive too? Claudia was right that love makes Louis stupid. This episode was so good and they were acting like the rent was due, eviction notice, and this was their last chance 😂 I hope we get season 3!
@RowensARTstudio Oh I kept my comment short. I already know Armand is behind everything. Louis is still stupid when it comes to love. Its both. Your whole comment is something i already know and agree with. I can see Louis is your fav tho bc you are painting him to be completely innocent. Theres plenty of times hes proven to make bad decisions bc of love. The same way he refused to believe Claudia when she told him Armand threatened her. Yes armand has scrambled his memories of certain things but thats not one of them.
@RowensARTstudio jesus you must have like no life fr. Looking into comment sections to do official debates and to try to sound like a know it all. Its clear you were triggered by my comment bc it didnt cover every single thought in your head to exist. And i said stupid not dumb. I was literally just quoting Claudia if you didnt catch it. I dont think louis is stupid or dumb. When it comes to someone he likes, he tends to ignore all the red flags, thats my point. You literally said a whole bunch of nothing in your comment bc its common sense that no one is innocent BECAUSE they are vampires. Its just Louis stans like you, tend to justify all his actions or overlook his faults for the most part. You cant put everything on armand even if you are a book reader. The show has made it clear Louis is partly to blame even if it was through his mistakes. What are you even arguing rn? No one is gonna write an essay just for you to cover every thought in your head and assumption made on ppls comments. Ypu assumed what I was thinking just off my og comment and you were completely wrong. You came in defensive and completely wrong on what i was thinking. You literally thought i fell for Armands manipulation, which is a flat out lie. I never trusted armand and knew he was the main villain in claudias demise since they first let the audience know he was armand. Never trusted him from the start. Your first comment was completely useless i already knew and agreed with it. You got mad i said louis is your fav and thats why you writing essays in a yt comment.
@RowensARTstudio its ppl like you who ruin ppls experience with shows. Wanting to name call and fight who ever you think disagrees with you. Ive seen you in so many comment sections being insufferable. Making assumptions on ppl when you dont even know what they think. You sir make an ass of yourself.
Claudia was based on Anne Rice's daughter Michele who died of Leukaemia at the age of 5. She used Claudia and her death to put her grief onto paper. Claudia had to die, her death was such a huge part of who Louis becomes.
GREAT NEWS: AMC just announced 6.26 that there will be a Season 3, so buckle up!!!! Claudia and Madeline are the very definition of, "all my life I had to fight." I mean from their POV, all the people that hurt them, aside from the people Claudia killed to save Madeline, have not had to pay for their crimes against them. As far as Armand goes, he sat there and allowed his first coven to be destroyed, he's sitting there watching the trial, and he's sitting there in the beginning of this episode silent as per usual. At least Lestat has attempted an apology and shed more light on what really happened at certain moments, but what of Armand? He just skips from one disaster of his own making to the next and lets everyone else try to pull themselves out of the emotional, physical, and mental wreckage around him.
"Not the painting!" Fun fact: the painting that Louis smashes his bowl of blood against is Rembrandt's "Storm on the Sea of Galilee" which, in real life, was among several pieces of art stolen from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston in the 90s. The case is still unsolved and the stolen works are still missing. And if I recall correctly, that theft remains the highest value art heist in history-- in part because "Storm on the Sea of Galilee" was Rembrandt's only seascape. The word "priceless" gets thrown around a lot when it comes to art, but with this particular piece it's no hyperbole. I LOVE the lore-building implied by Louis and Armand having a famously stolen artwork hanging on their wall-- and how, in his anguish and rage in remembering all of this trauma, Louis doesn't give a single damn about preserving this artwork. As priceless as the painting may be-- to Louis, it's worth nothing compared to Claudia's memory, the outrage he feels remembering the injustice of the trial/stoning/lynching, or his sense of survivor's guilt.
Does anyone believe that Armand was being held prisoner?! Armand (the centuries old ancient vampire) couldn't defend himself against Sam the playwright, and only had enough strength to save Louis? He's def still lying!! I do believe Lestat's version of how Claudia was made bc if you go back and watch (I did), you'll hear their voices fading in and out at the introduction to Claudia's voice. But I still insist that Louis was not aware of the magnitude of breaking laws he really was just being told about. That play that Sam and Santiago wrote was so racist! From the way Louis was portrayed as this violent thug who engaged in street brawls, who hunted and pursued this very anglo (literally golden) man. To them downright butchering their heels the same way they used to do to runaway slaves...ugh. They took away their rights to speak or defend themselves...though Claudia was a badass and still fought to the end. It was hilarious to see Santiago's responses to Lestat going off script. And it sucks that Claudia went to her death still being lied to by Louis. At least she finally had a ride or die in Madeleine...for however short a time it was. Rip C&M.
I’m betting on Armand being the one who actually wrote the play to make it look like Lestat was lying about him to drive a wedge between Louis and Lestat.
The coven really added insult to this "trial" by making the mortal audience the jury. They look at mortals as inferior, as "cattle" like Armand said. For vanpires to be judged and sentenced by them must have been degrading. Especially because a lot of the audience were fans of Baby Lu Lu. For Claudia to have the same people who cheered for her as Lu Lu now yell and call for her death must have been humiliating. I think that's why she sang the song while she died, to stick it to the audience and coven. She was like "you thought i was cute before, watch me sing it while I burn to ash."
It's the fact that Louis has stayed with armand this long after aaaaallllllll that happened in that trial. Like bruh, STAND UP!!! this dude unalived my good sis claudia and her companion, why is he the love of your life????
right... and he got you locked in that dubai psych ward cause he's afraid you'll walk into the sun again .. tbh armand as rashid in s1 called the interview a su!cide mission, louis don't gaf anymore he doesn't wanna live 🥲 i think his mind died with claudia
In the book Louis stays with armand because even though he knew the truth is because he lost his humanity after claudia died he never recovered that's why he stayed with him they were together for a long time before armond broke up with him
I'm glad you guys didn't forget why Claudia and Louis wanted to kill Lestat in the first place because so many people seem to forget that Claudia was essentially his prisoner
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia Louis's point of view which is corroborated by Claudia's journals. I know yall want to erase everything bad Lestat has done to others...but Louis wasn't on that train when Lestat threatened to grind Claudia's bones to dust while bringing up Bruce, a person that she only talked to Louis about in Paris. It was directly written in her journals. And for this incident, Claudia had no reason to lie. Stop insisting that everything is just Louis point of view and that Lestat's point of view is the unequivocal truth. Its clearly not. And its shows a clear inability to grasp the actual show and what it is saying about memory. Clearly, Lestat is selfish, self-centered, and manipulative and all those things have contributed to the problems he had in that relationship. He isn't some blameless being.
@@fizzychizzy I think your getting a bit worked up about a fictional story my friend. Armand is clearly messing with Louis’s recollection. Because Armand was so wounded, he has fear of being abandoned, he has no problem murdering the competition. Armand and Claudia have that in common. Lestat is a murderous monster, no doubt, they all are. Armand, Lestat and Marius are all my favorite, complex characters in Anne Rice’s universe. They are all are self centered beings, including Claudia. This is detailed further in in the novels when her diaries are read further on. She despised Louis and took advantage of him to get her to Europe, all while making him feel as if she loved him. What they will do I’m the series? Who knows. And yes it is a point of view of Louis’s. The next season will no doubt be Lestat’s pov. Louis did admit what Lestat said on stage is true. Oh BTW Daniel will be turned by Armand or possibly Lestat, as I think Daniel already unknowingly met Lestat In Raglan James body. Daniel goes nuts and Armand then deposits Daniel with Marius, so he can help Daniel come to terms with his immortality. I love Armand’s character as well as Lestat’s. Anne rice created Lestat as her own alter ego. The vampires are all self centered, egotistical and I love them all!
@@fizzychizzy I’m confused, Louis’s Story to Daniel was an absolute lie and after he told the trial story, he said what Lestat said on stage was how it happened. Lestat also made the full admission that he hurt Louis.
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia ONE SCENE. Not the entire exposition. How could Louis have called to Lestat like a seductress via his THOUGHTS. Lestat is an attractive man. There are woman that probably call to him via their thoughts all the time. But for some reason, Louis was different? Its clear that Lestat was obsessed with Louis and followed him. That is already one part of the testimony that doesn't ring true. You are not meant to take Lestat's word for everything that happened during the trial. Armand and Daniel discuss how the trial basically was twisted retelling of events with a clear bias. But for the turning of Claudia, Louis concludes that his own guilty regarding it may have altered his interpretation of events so he should take Lestat's word. Mind you, Daniel was likely resting on the recounting of the event from CLAUDIA'S written diary. That episode was entirely from Claudia's perspective. And Claudia's perspective wasn't wrong.
eventhough this episode centres around the trial, there are so many different subplots threaded throughout that have been two seasons in the making. lestat being coerced to say things, louis mourning claudia, louis still being in a relationship with armand after all this time, claudia still feeling that connection to her maker eventhough she hates him, claudia finally being put first, armand playing the victim, armand only saving louis....... and so much more. the whole episode is so heartbreaking for so many reasons, and it goes back to what the cast said before the season aired 'what matters more is who is telling the story, rather than the story itself' i love these videos, keep doing what you're doing
I just want to say we never actually got Louis's version of Claudia turning or the fight they are all from Claudia's diary in Season 1, which btw she was burnt you could say she was going in and out of consciousness even in that scene in S1 Lestat does tell Louis that it'swrong to turn a child but it's in the background so we don't hear it clearly as we are in Claudia's POV, the fight scene in S1 we don't see what goes on upstairs we stay with Claudia as she walks up the stairs but the dialogue between her and louis is the same which means Lestat isn't lying ( remember Claudia's diaries are also unreliable Louis actually reminds us of this in ep1 when her diary says she can't dream but she could )
Your observations are good but the fact that we can't trust Claudia or Louis' account doesn't automatically mean that Lestat's version is the truth. He's literally in the middle of a play reciting the story in a way that's meant to make him look like the victim. So he's not exactly reliable either. I think the point is that there are bits of truth in all their versions, but we don't know exactly what happened. The only things that can be confirmed are the parts that they all remembered.
@@glossy283I think Claudia’s POV is the most reliable because even though it’s biased she wrote things as they happened without editing things for an audience.
@@tinymxnticore I agree. She was the only one who didn't have an incentive to twist the truth since she was only writing for herself. We're just missing the parts of the story that she wasn't present for or that she didn't get all the details of.
I would like to point out that it sounds ridiculous that Claudia would hear some of the lines said by Louis but not the lines that he was clearly yelling loud enough for a vampire to hear about him giving Lestat's head to a lion. If you don't see how that was clearly planted in the story to take the blame off of Lestat for his brutality afterwards...its quite obvious. Its outlandish. Its garish. And it doesn't seem like Louis at all. It was clearly planted and I feel the writers of the show made that very obvious. Lestat snapped at Louis whether he said anything or not. And he beat him horribly and then dragged him by his mandible into a courtyard, as told via Claudia's journals, and BROKE Louis into pieces like a selfish child. It's insane to see people just take his word for it.
@@fizzychizzy You make a good point about Claudia not hearing Louis’s taunts. I thought that scene was more or less reliable because it seemed like they were deliberately not showing things from Lestat’s testimony that were outright lies, while the scene retelling how Claudia was turned is at least claimed by Louis in Dubai to be how it really happened. So I believed watching the episode that Louis did say those things…and I didn’t feel it made Lestat any less to blame. Lestat started choking their daughter and then beat Louis for intervening. Louis could have said and done worse and I wouldn’t think he was wrong after what he did to both of them. I feel that the point of the episode was that Louis could have been perfect and the audience would have still condemned him. Because it wasn’t a trial, it was a lynching. Our memories are unreliable, which is something abusive people take advantage of even without vampiric powers, and I like that Louis isn’t always a perfect protagonist or reliable narrator. But anyone using this one instance of him actually standing up to his abuser to invalidate him as a victim or paint him as the aggressor are as evil as the Vampire coven (and will be dealt with accordingly 😈🔥)
The death of Madeleine and Claudia was heartbreaking. I knew they would be destroyed, but it was still devastating. I felt bad for Madeleine because she was harassed and ostracized during the war, lost her entire family to TB, she had a horrible life. When given the choice to survive and joining the coven, she refused. She would not want to join this group of duplicitous vampires just to stay alive. She formed a bond with Claudia. Claudia is closer to a family than the coven could never be.
12:20 You can interpret the dragging as he doesn't want Claudia to turn for her own sake but for his own guilt and ego Which also works with the fact that he knew how terrible Claudia's life would be It was a selfish act
I think that the act of turning anyone into a Vampire is an inherently selfish act. That goes for Lestat turning Louis too. At least with Claudia it was a literal "life"or death situation
Yeah it really gets the point across that Louis only seen her as an object. She was an object that he saw as an opportunity for his own redemption. A complete human stranger who was dying and his vampire strength, he couldve carried her and handled her gently but he didnt.
Heartbreaking, beautiful, impactful episode R.I.P to our girls Claudia and Madelaine you were real ones to the bitter end. And don't let Armand fool you he's very calculating and sneaky everything that happened is because that's exactly what he wanted, he let it happen on purpose. He didn't care about Claudia he wanted her gone so that he could have Louis all to himself. If he truly wanted to stop it he could have he's extremely powerful. Also I think there is more then meets the eye with this trial and Lestat. I don't think he was there because he wanted to be, because if you look closely at Lestat's hands they are bruised, and also there were a few times when Lestat was moving weirdly like someone was using mind powers on him. I cannot wait until next week to see what all goes down in the Season finale, and how they set the stage for Season 3. Thanks for the wonderful reaction ladies, and thanks for spreading the love and helping to get the word out about this amazing show it's sadly so underrated🤗🥰☺
I have asked this before, and still haven't received a satisfying answer. Why would Armand feel the need to orchestrate this in order to separate Louis from Claudia? They had already been separated. She and Madeline living their own lives outside of Paris. They only came back for one last time to say goodbye. Louis made Madeline so Claudia could go her own way with her companion. After this, Louis is haunted and broken. Armand has had to prevent him from killing himself for decades after. Wouldn't it have just been easier to let Claudia and Madeline go?
@@cullenarthur8879Good points. I was wondering if it’s not Claudia that’s the threat to Armand, but Lestat like we were shown in episode 5. I wonder if Armand is actually trying to drive a wedge between Louis and Lestat by making Lestat responsible for Claudia’s demise by testifying against her. Or for all we know, Armand has made Louis remember that Claudia and Madeleine were leaving without him. Maybe Louis had intended on going but due to tampered memories, Louis thinks he remembers them leaving without him. This whole show gives me a headache in the best way!
Even though I knew what was coming it didn't lessen the impact of what played out. Madeleine put Claudia first even in death and Claudia went out as she lived - defiantly. Lestat was everything. He was charming, defiant, vengeful, petty and heartbroken. Armand was definitely behind all of the treachery that took place. Armand was playing the long game. I cannot wait to see Louie's vengeance next week and his showdown with Lestat.
The thing about these stories is basically the multiple perspectives. If Daniel could find Lestat's stories, he would find a great deal of history along with Lestat's story.
Remember that we are not seeing Lastet’s version, we’re still hearing Louis and armand’s version, lastet isn’t being interviewed and saying his side of story yet
First of all, Armand is over 500 years old. He is so powerful, why the hell could he not put everyone to sleep, take them out of there? Or at least set vamps on fire??? Sam was blocking him, give me a break. That suit on Lestat, Jesus, he's never looked better & that profile, pretty hot & I'm a lesbian lol No one can script Lestat, he's always going off script. Santiago was pleased when he finally did. A story of love not butchery. Finally, the first look. So Lestat's version is the right one? As far as Claudia's transformation. Holy crap! Armand just sitting there, watching. He was the oldest most powerful vampire there, wtf??? It pissed me off. One of my favorite moments, Lestat moving so fast to the balcony & snarling at that homophobe. Sam Reid's performance was everything, pure brilliance. "I was not worthy of the forgiveness you would grant me." Broke my heart. I would highly recommend reading the books. They are amazing!
One of the best episodes of television ever. And I've seen A LOT of primo tv. This definitely is on the list. This has got everyone in so many feels! Season 3 can't come quick enough. Hopefully, now that all the haters are stopping with their review bombs and when this show finally hits Netflix the audience will finally grow to what it should be.
The acting was top tier in this ep even though it devastated me 💔 I was getting so irritated with the audience as well! Even though I knew it was intentional, my heart just went out to Claudia, Louis and Madeleine not being able to move or speak up there! Another great reaction and cant wait to watch the finale ❤
Y'all should read the books so you're prepared lore wise for the next season...all I'm saying. Thanks for the videos it's hype to be able to watch with my skinfolk, sending love from a black girl NYer in Italy.
Thanks ladies. I’m used to it now, but I cried again watching with you both. Well, one more episode… and guess what?? As I type this we have been renewed for SEASON 3!!!🎉 We get to see the rockstar The Vampire Lestat, in concert and on tour!!! Sam Reid will take all of this to another level and I can’t wait. See you next week!!!
@@nilesstark You're never going to believe this But that's exactly what's happening and in fact it just got renewed for season three today And it will focus on lestat primarily
@Nicholas_is_my_name That is excellent news. I'm hoping Lestat and Daniel meet. But in fairness, Lestat has so much backstory to where we might need 4 to follow a little more. He is at least 70 years or more ahead of Louis and from the Books, he did meet Armand's maker and Them.
PLEASE! lets not defend the 500 year old vampire who absolutely could have prevented it! im pretty sure it was his plan as well! (p.s did u clock lestat being kinda out of it and weird?)
It was! Now Armand will allow Louis to do his dirty work and get rid of the coven. Not to worry though. Our boy Santiago lives although they thought he perished.
Anyone who thinks that Louis doesn't love Lestat or will ever love anyone other than Lestat is absolutely delusional. And that includes Louis, Armand, and Lestat.
We all know very well that those were not Claudia's last words and that she didn't sing that song because why would she? we all know that Armand is lying again and manipulating the facts and memories RIGHT?!
I took it as more of a middle finger to the coven and audience. Especially since there were fans of Baby Lu Lu in the audience. It was like "you think this is cute? Watch me sing it as I burn to ash!".
Yup yup. I love my brat prince but he bascially imprisoned Claudia. She had to stay or Louie would mope. Lestat needed to let them both go. He really loved Louie, but... he could have gone to Armand, who did want him, and there was Antoinette. He didn't have to be alone without Louie. He just wouldn't be with the person he truly desired. He and Armand are very alike in that way. They can't accept rejection.
I could be wrong, but I have to rewatch the episode again, but I feel like Armand used Louis to get rid of the coven. He used Lestat for the same thing before, so I feel like he allowed Claudia to be killed because he knows Louis will want revenge and it will free him from being used by the coven if he succeeds. Armand definitely had the power to save them, but as we have seen before, he's a coward, and 10 times worst than Lestat in my opinion 😂 What's messed up is Lestat lies, but he really be telling the truth most of the time. He told them the vampires were brutal, but Claudia's hatred for him really put them in this position. And Louis is not as innocent as he claims to be. I had a feeling some things didnt go the way they showed in season one because Lestat is obviously stronger than Louis. He could have really destroyed him in that fight if he wanted to. He just wanted him to hurt like he made him hurt. Louis' behavior with Armand was really scary. I know he lost Claudia, but I dont feel like thats any excuse considering he always put her second and she knew it. He didn’t even believe Claudia when she told him that Armand threatened her. He was a horrible father to her.
You have to remember. This is all being told from everyone’s point of view . There’s multiple sides to a story . I realized that when the story about Claudia happened . Every has their side to tell .
The amazing and frustrating problem about this series is that it plays a lot with memories and perspective. In season 1, we see Daniel question Louis' memories a few times whether he was with another man in the rain or at the end of the last episode. His memory is not fully reliable, so many of the scenes with Louis and Lestat are probably both true just from bits and pieces with their perspectives added in. Claudia openly said she started writing differently because of the fact they read the diaries. We have yet to hear Lestat's recount directly from his mouth and Louis has been mentally manipulated for most of the time that we have seen him. Armand has been lying a lot anyway, so we literally have no fully true story.
Armand could've definitely changed all of the death votes to banishment imo he's practically mind controlled the entire coven, a group of humans would not take as much strength as that. Also don't know if you guys noticed this cause it's only a quick second but the vampire Sam is present in the banishment of Louis as they pour rocks into the coffin, but in Armand's version of the story, Sam is still guarding him at the theatre as they kill Claudia. WHAT IS THE TRUTH!
@@cullenarthur8879 which other vampire/actor would that be? I'm pretty sure it is Sam, he is wearing the same outfit and has the same makeup and hair. You can look at screenshots of the both times he appears in this episode side by side and see it's the same actor. Maybe Sam has an evil twin hahahaha
@@janefonduh watch the quick scene where they show the theater musicians are getting ready to play. He's towards the back of the shot getting ready to play the violin. He does look a lot like Sam. They have similar hair, face and clothes. I've noticed him before and thought he looked like Sam. He's not one of the more featured vampires in the coven.
@@cullenarthur8879 Oh! I see you who you mean! The vampire Basilic (just watched their lil introduction to the coven to catch his name), and they do look alike. He's in the beginning of this episode with the others kicking Louis in the body bag but he's wearing stripes and has his hair parted to the side! The vampire we see with Louis in the banishment scene later on has his hair parted in the middle and is wearing all black with black lipstick like Sam during the trial.
@@janefonduhI take it back. I think you're right. I watched it again and payed close attention to that part and it does appear to be Sam. They then show the theater where Claudia and Madeline were about to be executed and they do show Sam standing next to Armand. At this time, he would have been back stage putting Louis in the coffin. I don't know if that was a continuity error by the show runners or deliberately intended to cause us to question the memory of the narrator. But, I stand corrected. You were right.
THIS EPISODE MADE ME CRY AND I DONT OFTEN CRY WATCHING THESE SHOWS IT HURT ME TO MY CORE SEEING cLAUDIA DIE AND THE SPEECHES lESTAT AND cALUDIA WAS GIVING UM SMH LI KRASE MWEN
Hey ladies, I just wanted to give you some information. It'll be good to know for Season 3 😊 Marius born 30 BC in Basilia Rome by The God of the Grove: alive. He is 2000 yrs old today. Made Armand in 1497, he is 514 yrs old today. Magnus born 1480 by Benedict who was made vampire in 1095: Magnus died at 300 yrs. Benedict: alive Magnus made Lestat in 1779, against his will. Lestat made Louis in 1791 and Claudia is 1794.
A lot of people watching the show assumed that when Armand told Louis that the Rome coven set fire to his maker in the museum scene, that meant his maker had died. Having read the books up to The Vampire Armand, I knew that according to the books, he was still alive. For some reason, I can't remember reading about Magnus' maker Benedict. I wasn't aware that he was still alive.
@cullenarthur8879 I found this on the Vampire Chronicles WIKI: Benedict was a Christian monk of the seventh or eighth century in France, brought into the Blood by Rhoshamandes around the year A.D. 800. Benedict is the vampire from whom the alchemist Magnus stole the Blood, a theft described in The Vampire Lestat. Appears in Prince Lestat and Prince Lestat and the Realms of Atlantis as Rhoshamandes’s companion and lover."
Keep in mind claudia's death is still through Armand's pov, so we don't know what lestat was feeling truly. Also, lestat wasn't there Through his own will
i just love yalls reactions to this show !! so many people have such little empathy for claudia and madeline's death but i BAWLEDD 😭 anne rice wrote claudia as the heart of interview with the vampire and i really loved her actor(s) and story in this show. plus i also had skepticism for lestat's version of events bc the setting that we're getting "his side of the story" is literally on stage for an audience and that man is an ACTORRR
I’ve been watching you guys this season.i like watching you guys On a scale of 1-10 this episode was a 10 So emotional. My stomach was in knots. The writers of this show are amazing . I so glad they are being renewed for season 3!
I like how Claudia says to Madeline it's not a trial, it's a stoning, because women get stoned in other countries for things like adultery, men use that as a punishment against women who do things that men may do but they don't get punished for it. The whole trial is hypocritical. Lestat never taught her the vampire rules. She was made as a child without asking for it. Armand as we see in this episode controls their minds to say banishment, but could not do the same for Claudia. Come on. . . he's 500 years old ancient vampire, made by Marius who guards those who must be kept, the king and queen of vampires. Armand is controlling the whole narrative at the moment. At this point, I am hoping Lestat shows up to the Dubai apartment next week to start telling Daniel his side of the story. . .
The story we know from season 1 is from Louis and Claudia's perspectives. This was Lestat's perspective. We can't say what happened and what didn't, lol. But re-watch to see Lestat he is not fully himself. He sways, his hands are bruised... Even this trial, there is more to the story, lol.
This can't be Lestat's revenge, I'm sorry. We know him as self-centered and performative, so he returns to the stage of the theater HE founded to appear miserable all the time and, most importantly, give an audience of MORTALS the power to decide the sentence? Lestat would NEVER!!!! He would give a revenge like that to an enemy he despised, not one he loved like Louis and Claudia, he couldn't look at their faces! And the look on his face watching Claudia die? He himself said that whatever sentence they got would be his too because he was the one who transformed Claudia... I think we're going to find out a lot more about this trial. This episode was devastating, Claudia is my baby and what comforts me is knowing that she was prioritized by at least one person in her life. Madeleine preferred death to living without her!!
Lestat didn't have to show up in Paris. At some point, Lestat wanted revenge and then changed his mind but you can't unload the bullets after the gun has been shot.
@@fizzychizzy well, he was almost murdered, his side piece was murdered….I love all the characters. They are complex. Lestat being the most complex. His character evolution by Mrs. Rice was brilliant. For example, In one of the later books, he adopts an orphan girl at 6 yo. The depth and breadth of his evolution is the most beautiful piece of work I’ve ever had the privilege to read.
@@fizzychizzy I completely agree, I meant to say that I don't think he would take revenge in that way, the audience of mortals deciding the sentence for me was what made me more certain of that, but I have no doubt that he went to Paris to have his revenge... Maybe Santiago found a way to force Lestat to do it that way?
the pain is an 11/10 !!! Claudia only ever wanted to be understood, and to find happiness but at every turn she was denied and failed. There are so many factors that make the pain deepen but the worst fact of all is that when she finally finds it-- Love, Happiness, Companionship. She is punished and then lynched before she could even explore and experience that life with Madeleine. It is, in all senses of the word, unfair. I find only a small comfort in the bittersweet knowledge that Claudia had Madeleine with her, in the end. Thank you for the reaction video, I cried alongside you two. I hope more people discover the show as well!
This episode was BRUTAL and I loved your raw reactions! Please excuse my long post in advance. I initially was so upset with Lestat for not trying to save them! However, after another watch I realized something is off with Lestat and again, I’m questioning if we should take what what we were shown at face value. For the most part, Lestat stays on script going off script mostly when moved by genuine moments. However, there are some small hints of him going in and out of consciousness and having a dazed expression. The most obvious moment is when they are about to execute Claudia and Madeleine just after Santiago says “what time is it? way past our bedtime”, Lestat is standing in the background swaying looking hypnotized or dazed. I wonder if he was also getting disarmed by the coven like we saw done to Louis and Claudia? Also, Santiago put Madeleine in a trance, but not Claudia or Louis. We aren’t told why he did this or what he told her. There is a theory going around on social media that Santiago put Madeleine in a trance so Lestat couldn't communicate with her telepathically or so she couldn’t read his mind and relay information telepathically from Lestat to and from Claudia. And do they really expect us to believe coven master Armand couldn't take on that whole coven if he wanted to? And they stuck the vampire Sam on him? We saw him put everyone to sleep by slamming his fist on a table. We’ve seen him stop time entirely on multiple occasions. We have also seen him erase and manipulate memories as well as mentally mind handle Lestat in the past back in episode 3..Daniel isn’t buying it so that's a hint to me something is amiss. There is also a big discrepancy with Sam, the vampire “guarding” Armand. After Louis lets Armand take over the story because Louis doesn't know what happened after he is dragged off to the vault, we see the vampire Sam is assisting the other vampires with pouring the rocks over Louis in the coffin. Then when we cut back to Armand watching Claudia and Madeleine on stage, Sam is shown there guarding him. He is in two places at once. Unfortunately, I don’t think we will get a clearer picture of what happened at this trial until there is more time, so likely in season 3, but unfortunately it will not bring back our beloved ladies :(.
After watching this Sunday…all I could think after Claudia’s death scene was “oh this is gonna tear Amber and Nikki up” 😢 lol that really was so sad….when she lost her toughness and started crying and screaming for Louis and begging for help I just lost it 😭😭😭
I've been wondering if Lestat felt like Claudia was going to live a torturous life any way, so he felt like was better for her to be convicted. It was vengance but it was also a fact that she would keep suffering no matter what. And he never turned away from her in her last moments, he demanded that she get her last words, he looked at her the entire time, witnessing her exit from that life, just like her advocated for her to not be turned in to a vampire and witnessed her birth into the vampire life. The person she hated the most, her greatest enemy, advocated for her dignity before she was turned, when she was becoming an adult, and for her last words. That's not enough to ever absolve him - but turning her wasn't enough for Louis' redemption either.
A 2km drop is just over a mile above the city. Not enough to kill à vampire, but enough to several injure one. Also FYI: In the book, Lestat was still recovering from his wounds that night of his "murder"(mostly at the hands of Claudia). He was poisoned and set ablaze. He was physically and psychologically injured. He was terrified of everything. So, when the coven reached out to Roget and Associates to communicate with Lestat, they discovered how poorly he was doing. He got better by the time he was brought to Paris. I am wondering if this will be covered in the season finale because the next story in the series of books is "The Vampire Lestat." He is a rockstar with a band of human fans/groupies.
On a scale of 1 - 10, my devastation level is 72. And I knew what was coming which is a testament to the talent involved with this show. Now can we all admit that Lestat, Armand, and Louis are raggedy af? Lol. He crawled out of the dirt and sailed across the ocean to see them dead. The only truthful thing Lestat said was, “Now it’s their turn to hurt.” They’ve made a big deal about Louis being an unreliable narrator, but Lestat is worse because we’ve seen him lie to Louis and Claudia, though Claudia peeped him the entire time. The only narrative I’m willing to trust Claudia’s account of events because unlike everyone else, Claudia was writing everything down in real time.
I agree Lestat should have let them go but lets be honest, if he had Claudia would have been dead within months of her arrival. He told her the coven was vicious, he told Louis and he just conveniently edited that part from his memory. He could have explained to Claudia in anyway he wanted how dangerous going to Europe was but he let her fixate on it, in essence he groomed her hate for Lestat. Lestat respected Louis enough and knew that Claudia would likely not even believe him if he told her how she was made and why it was wrong. But thats where he made a mistake, he would have told her Louis be damned and allowed her to make her choice to leave and then experience exactly what she did now. Because it would have been no different. Armand is the biggest traitor I've ever seen, i love him but i can't lie. He wants Louis to himself without the burden of Claudia.
