Interviewing Angelo  

I’ve never seen anyone so confident that they can assist others in awakening, so positive that it can happen for everyone… I hope he’s right❤

Can't wait to see what they talk about...

Lisa, I just found you, thanks to Angelo, who has been my angel (notice the appropriateness of his name) since I found him about a year ago. He’s the most accessible teacher (for me) and now you… a gift from the Internet … providing love and light and hope. 🙏 ❤ Thank you for making this content.

I have avoidant, fearful personality and have spent my whole life being isolated from the world, but also from myself. There was never any fear of loosing ego, because my life was so shitty I wanted it to go away. And it did. Paradoxically, without the sense of personal self, I'm more myself than ever before. And for the first time in my life, I love this damaged, broken personality. The Self loves the self 😄 I think that experiencing a lot of suffering and wanting to disassociate from the ego can actually be an advantage. You think that awakening will be a way out, but actually it's a way in 😄

These people coming from a Western background of materialism are gifted spiritual people who inspires us minus the spiriritual grandiosity. They are humble great teachers. Dr Angelo is a gift in this worst of times.

I’m so glad Angelo mentioned this interview on his recent video with Violet, because this is wonderful and rich. Thank you both ♥️🙏🏻

Lisa, thanks for “Neurologically diverse.” I think I’ll start using that for myself, instead of saying dyslexic, learning disabled and ambidextrous left handed. 😂 ❤

This interview was like a retreat. I am watching It again. I know Lisa s femine way and am addicted to It. Angelo is inteligent but not dense and taught me a lot in a different way. Definetly there was a tranmission, there is a resonance i the air. Thank you from Uruguay.

Pure JOY to have discovered this chat today with Angelo and Lisa. Love the palpable passion and insights!

Two of my favourite people! Looking forward to this o much!

Going down a long water slide,I feel like I would die of totally fear, but also I would have to die to my fear to be able to let go and go.. it feels the same as holding onto me and my life…. I listen to so many of these videos, I have always been so empathetic, aware, tuned in, but also shut down. I have done hours of deep meditation, read hundreds of books, I sit in silence, I have so few interests now, everything drops. I do not work, I am very much in the now. I have had moments that I know I am driving my car, but it is happening in my head. 13 years ago after 7 weeks in a clinic in France, I was just buzzing and being everything happening but no me and no thoughts. This letting go is what is necessary and Into total trust. It feels like the same fear as going down a slide, I have been fearful all my life of slipping and sliding… thank you so much for sharing your stories…

Beautiful conversation, thank you both.

Great interview Lisa. Always love hearing Angelo speak, so incredibly articulate and genuine. So nice to hear both of your perspectives.

Lisa, once again, there I go falling/rising in love with you. 💙 Thank you for introducing us to this fellow Angelo, which YT page I just subscribe to with great excitement to explore the depth.

Really adore both of you and the way you authentically speak ! Thank you for this sharing!

Two such lovely beings. In awe. And in gratitude. 🙏

Great Talk that actualles Takes away some fear of Realisation.🙏💕🙌

This is such a beautiful conversation. Authenticity ❤ My two favorite.

It's interesting that the polarity of his talk talk talk so fast - and her gentle quiet and waiting for her to speak. Tempered❤❤❤❤❤

I can so relate to what Angelo said at 5:45. It all flipped for me at that age and seemingly suddenly and stuff that didn't matter mattered. I also grew a guilt conscience and frankly the protective innocence of childhood was gone and I became very concerned with good and bad and right and wrong. Later, during adolescence I became aware and more impacted by the behavior of my parents and larger family, most of which was negative and highly judgmental.

Wow, Wow, Wow - Really Wonderful. Thank you both for sharing this. I particularly appreciated near the end, where you spoke of people that you attract largely being Neurodivergent and/or having an unstable sense of self and thinking this is the same thing ✋I have been pondering this for a while now, so REALLY appreciate you stating that 💖🙏🏿

Thanks for mentioning and normalizing the dark sides of spirituality, fear’s been strong. 😊🙏🏼❤️

"..using thought to get rid of problem of thought'.....brilliantly said!

Beautiful conversation! My favorite topic!

I love you both thank you so much

I've been listening to Angelo for a few years. So much love, affection and gratitude for this man. And, simultaneously, it doesn't really feel that personal. But it does feel very intimate and beautiful. For this guy (me) and all his beliefs and identity structures, Angelo is simply the most powerful, direct and compassionate teacher out there in the world today. And I enjoy diving into Lisa's field, too, whenever I find myself watching her. Thank you both for this chat. Beautiful. *Edit. I had never heard the term neurodivergent before. And, as someone who spent the first 45 years of life plagued by the same repeating thought, "What the hell is wrong with me?", it was vaguely reassuring to become acquainted with this word and understand others have also always felt they don't "fit" in the world or who can't "do" life like we're supposed to.

The event that is beyond experience that you speak of is what Neo-Platonism refers to as "The One". Plato wrote a letter stating that anyone who claims they have understood what he is talking about is wrong, and that he has never written about it and that it is not possible to write about it. Plotinus expressed astonishment after exiting The One, having recalled that he was somewhere even higher or greater than Nous (pure consciousness) but that it is so radical that essentially nothing could be said about it. But it apparently is precisely through entrance (and then an exit) from The One that it becomes known to the soul that the ascending path from the many to the one, and the descending path from the one to the many are utterly non-dual. The shadows in Plato's cave go from being something that imprisons a person and obscures them from the light, to being perfect expressions of the light. The shadows themselves (form) are not bad. Being caught up in the shadows without knowledge of what they are rooted in (emptiness) is the problem. I know there are many eastern traditions that speak about this journey and experience of the ultimate non-dual or nirvana or what have you, but I find it remarkable that it is expressed in pretty much the same ways in both the east and west, and that it's expressed in so many different traditions.

That was exactly my experience the last time I ate mushies. It felt awful and I never want to do it again. That was before awakening and there’s no need for them now. This was such an amazing interview!

Seth says our present, past and future lives are happening at the same time. You can affect your past and future lives in the present and they can affect you - Seth Speaks

Wow! Thank you both.

Wow! This was so important for me to listen to this at that moment! Thanks a lot for doing this, you both are amazing. This is truly the grace :)

I love you both.💕

Man, you really got him on fire :)

Great talk! thank you

1. They didn't. 2. There is no road. 3. The road would forgive you for crossing it, even if it did exist.

ANGEELOOOOO (the man)

Between here and gone!

love an light

I’d love to hear more about neurodivergence and awakening. I’m female and got diagnosed with ADHD at 45. It’s been life changing in the sense that I’ve spent most of my life being invalidated by others. People don’t mean it in a mean way, but people just don’t get it when I find something really hard that should be fairly easy (laundry or returning an item to the post office). I think I also sit on the autistic spectrum too. I’m a lot kinder to myself now I have a diagnosis. But I’ve also had a feeling that I’m broken in some way and recently that awakening might be more challenging for me because of my neurodivergence. I know having ADHD overall has made me a kinder person especially when I lean into my own suffering. I get to then have some understanding of how things play out in others.

"It only improves through vulnerability on my part" ❤

Thank you 😊 😊🙏

The notion of knowing something is profound in all its implications.

So cool!

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When you mix up radical non-duality( Tony Parsons message) with the mainstream non-duality teachings, then you get something like this 😵‍💫

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If 2 non duality exponents have a meeting of the minds will they produce a singularity and disappear? We can only hope

21:35 The ultimate check out from the world to disassociation. Sorry, but this is the trap of nonduality. Check out and don't acknowledge thought processes that are part of the ego, the thing we need in order to have relationships and solve relational problems, and manage the very real conflicts in the world. I went through the nondual awareness shift. It was great! It feels wonderful. It's deeply healing and comforting, and it is at the same time a trap. You must cultivate both, the self and the no self. To deny the self and "bypass" it through nonduality is a trap, a form of repression and splitting off from the ego self that is part of the experience of this world in all it's messiness, choas, and wonder. To "checkout" and seek to abide constantly in nondual bliss is to lose your empathy and ability to be intimate and vulnerable with others. It's hard and challenging to face and deal with those early life challenges and traumatic experiences, but it too is the path to wholeness. Being a self, having a narrative (past) conflicted or not, that is well integrated and connected to humanity and related to humanity is what is missing in some nondual sects like this. There's a type of grandiosity in this realization that should be noted with caution. Many become spiritual teachers and leaders after these experiences before they are ready. The real inner work hasn't come up yet. That's the spiritual bypassing trap.

It is a continuum,imo that’s to some degree what all the climate stuff is all abpit ,this reality is dissolving and consciousness is birthing anew a lot of the drama won’t b able to exist as soon as that dissolving reaches a certain frequency....think of it like the pictures u see of the runner who’s running and all the pixels behind him a disappearing,it’s constantly in motion ,we ,just don’t see it ....because we are it.

I love Angelou.

Who is there to be taught? Non duality is still a dream

6:30 that's me now but I'm almost 50 instead of 14.

@LisaCairns what type of neurodivergence, if you don't mind?

"stop suffering" isn't that idea where the obsession exactly is ?

All so awake....

9:06

anyone ever wonder thst the whiter the skin the more affluent and technologically advanced the society? i dont wanna be a racist :(

How ironic. On one hand you increasingly deny the mind memories and the ability to build anything and yet your turning towards everything not actively denying anything but letting it be which somehow appears to neutralize the energy keeping it from being as it is.

Lisa has warmest and sexiest smile

Great interview! Thank you for sharing your experience Angelo. It is fascinating to hear how awakening unfolds in different characters. Check out channel: Krishnamurti Saved My Life @whollylife. It would be wonderful to see you interview Jane. She has awakened, but was never involved in spirituality, so she talks without using any familiar spiritual concepts. Very interesting and refreshing.