I've retaken the testing a bunch hoping I'd get something other than INTP. Not sure why, it wont change anything. I will still be the socially awkward outcast hiding in my nerd cave.
@ginaintegrityseeker I have tabs that I have opened last year. Can't close it. It has be to be there. When I shut down the computer, I let the OS send the TERM signal to all apps. so when I restart, and re-open the apps, everything is restored as if they had been closed improperly. If not, I have my History (currently "19 tabs open")
TRULY THE WORSE! Especially when your record is listening to them without interrupting no matter what’s been said. The receptivity and reciprocity is rare.
huh .. im an INTP and i care so much about timing i actually like being too early to wrok or a date or anything i just cant stand waiting for something/someone therefor i hate being late and making others wait
Smygle Also an Intp, I agree I like to be on time when waiting to meet with someone because I never want someone to wait on me. That being said when it comes to due dates and deadlines they don’t exist for me and I always wait for the last minute or turn it in late.
My most common fear/anxiety as an INTP is making decisions. I enjoy all of the research and exploration involved in finding possible solutions and evaluating the pros/cons of those solutions but that's where my fun and (ideally) involvement ends. If I could just package up a bunch of possibilities and send them on their way to whomever wants to make the decision I'd be satisfied - _I_ don't get satisfaction necessarily from seeing a solution through. I think part of it is also the fear of accountability for any decision that turns out badly. I don't want my credibility with others to be diminished if something goes wrong and have them not trust my input in the future. That's a really scary prospect for me but also a sort of conceptual-perfectionism that I (and probably INTPs in general) struggle with and have to accept if I want to grow personally and be effective externally. Side note: Having a strong Te-user in your life to help you predict and measure the effectiveness of your ideas is really useful!
I, too, enjoy the process a little too much. As I got older, I have noticed that all the research and pondering didn’t go nowhere, especially the more practical subject matters. When I decide, it’s made faster with little buyer’s remorse.
this. "I think part of it is also the fear of accountability for any decision that turns out badly. I don't want my credibility with others to be diminished if something goes wrong and have them not trust my input in the future."
One of my intps will regularly ask for opinions or 'what shall I do?' in situations, and this really helps me to understand why! I (not intp) personally really really dislike making decisions for other people, but I will swallow that feeling and try and help her out. So thank you for that insight.
this is so accurate. sometimes I found myself avoiding things that make me emotional, sad songs, movies, books, etc. my mind is forcing myself to be logical and try not to let emotions get the best of me...
Same here. I even started to avoid the romantic things since elementary school. I prefer to read encyclopedias and adventure books rather than a fantasy novel about princess and fairytales. Haha
As an INTP, I think my biggest fear is communicating my emotions and feelings. However, this only happens after: 1. I realize that I'm feeling something and I can name what I am feeling 2. I figure out why I am feeling that way 3. I rationalize that it is okay to feel that way (or I don't accept it) 4. Figure out if I need to change how I feel 5. If I believe that my feelings are bad, I would either a) Try to suppress them b) Try to change circumstances surrounding emotions If (a) doesn't work well (or has been going on for more than a year), I will then try communication. And when communication doesn't go well, I'll just go back to (a). My second biggest fear is emotions and feelings to overwhelming me and affect my everyday life.
right on, though I've never listed the steps out like that. I tend to go with b, and refer to a as letting emotions go rather than suppressing them. If the same negative emotion (which I experience more as negative thought) re appears a few times, then I need to do something about it--convey it to another party or something. In any sort of relationship, it seems to me unfair not to convey something like that. Sharing feelings comes at great cost for the INTP, and unfortunately, my experience has been that other people don't really care what I am feeling. When they dismiss what I am sharing with them, their response strengthens my reticence to share in the future, and in fact my reticence to feel.
Based on a lot of the comments it seems like intp’s are spending a lot of their energy in resistance mode when it comes to feelings. I can imagine how that internal struggle would be. Feelings are the bodies physical reaction to how it interprets what it is sensing. You can’t control them, just as you can’t control your leg from moving when tapped below the patella, and you need to stop trying to control them. Manage them , but don’t control them. Know they will ebb and flow, come and go all on their own.
@@davidkepke1435 no energy spent here on resistance. That's a misunderstanding of how feelings work for at least this INTP. Did you see the vid where Nathan appears as an INTP's feelings and offers to talk with the INTP? The INTP's feelings don't want to talk either. That's closer to reality than the notion of resisting. Without any effort and without any apparent interval of time spent feeling a feeling, potential emotional response is submitted to T, which determines whether or not to engage in feeling.
I have ADHD and possibly am on the autism spectrum and I deal with this too. The frustration is just another thing you have to deal with on top of it all. It's like I'm crying and I'm watching it from an outsider perspective and there's no reason for me to act like this but it's still happening.
INTP with a large helping of Tourettes syndrome, and a dash of Aspergers..... life wasn't easy, if it wasnt for the INTP part of me that enjoyed taking the challenges I suspect I would not have made it to the age of 66 yo.
Man, getting deeply frustrated about being "irredeemably human" and "a creature with physical needs" hit home hard! ~Sincerely yours, not an INTP (ENTJ)
ENFJ's and ENTJ's experience a somewhat similar (but also somewhat different) thing due to Si POLR. I think they have a hard time acknowledging that pushing through with Se will not help and is not always wise, but rather a more calm and balanced "Si approach "is required
@@PowerRedBullTypology the issue with Si is a bit different. It is not a matter of choosing to ignore it deliberately. It is more like "Oh, Si! Yea, I can do Si! If anything, from this moment on I declare to focus on it, nurture it and be aware of it!... (hit on a head from "nowhere") oh, fuck... oh, FUCK... (blackout) 🤷♀️🤦♀️
Now just imagine being INTP _and_ female. Yes, I am aware that progesterone spikes in the luteal phase cause me to be irrationally emotional, irritable, and lower my frustration-tolerance. No, I cannot control it or stop it, even if I am aware of it in the moment. All I can do is intellectualize post-hoc. ...However, considering that I'm self-aware enough to notice these patterns, _and_ charitable enough to articulate them, perhaps one should take advantage of my remarkable consistency and self-awareness by remembering not to push my buttons when I've already warned them I'm likely to be irritable. If there were ever a time not to poke a caged bear with a stick and then act surprised when it growls, it would be then. So, Dear World, let's do each other a favor; spare me your stupidity and I'll spare you my wrath.
sister, you're making me laugh this morning. I've had that same thought sequence more than once. Actually, I have found out that some people kinda fear me, which is a bit troubling.
Biggest fear is that I will die before I learn everything or get the things I want to get done. Being a professional procrastinator means I had better be blessed with an exceptionally long life span....
I try to internalize the idea that if I don't get that done I'll be a failure and everyone will be smarter and better, so I'll just push through the huge desire of focusing on anything completely useless and get something done.
HOW PLEASE I'VE TRIED EVERY GOD DAMN TRICK IN THE BOOK ON HOW TO STOP PROCRASTINATING AND SOMETIMES IT WORKS FOR A WEEK THEN I FALL BACK TO MY NORMAL SHIT. PLEASE I AM STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH DEADLINES I AM LITERALLY PROCRASTINATING RIGHT NOW.
Over here, people think you're pretentious if you dare talk like that. Then they project their own insecurities onto you and accuse you of trying to sound smart because they feel stupid.
@@puj71 In my perspective... Complex topics are approachable. You don't know what a word is? Look it up. You don't understand a topic and want to? Spend a few nights researching it. Research and learning is our bread and butter-- or at least mine. Emotions often that lack the things we might otherwise snatch up and analyze, like a dense fog that comes out of nowhere, consumes everything in it's path, and moves in ways we can't predict or analyze when face to face with it. It seems impossible to NOT misstep with someone who is highly emotional and every once and a while, people often make poor decisions based on said feelings and are still surprised when it produces logical results, and every once and a while even we realize we've fallen prey to the guidance of illogical emotions. It's the epitome of all that is difficult to understand. Nuclear science. Quantum theory. The linguistic origins of some obscure language. The algorithmic functions used in encryption. Mineral classifications. It can all be analyzed. Why your friend keeps going back to her ex, however, can not. (At least, not in a satisfactory way.)
@@valej9387 Oh my gosh, you're such an INTP. As I know, what matters most to you gyys is knowledge. Well, INFPs may agree, but our goals is set more towards finding peace, and solving humanity's deepest problems. That's why we're stereotyped as hippies. Still, some of us may become fond of those. Same goes to INTPs, some may become psychologists and try to understand emotions and behaviors, those kinda stuff. Either way, INTPs have emotions too, even if it's hidden behind those shiny glass. It's just a question of preference, if something's caught your interest and you want to devote yourself to it.
You hit the nail on the head, especially when you said we don't look after our basic needs - I remember studying at uni and I forgot to eat for 14 hours and when I had to eat, I was annoyed 😂
Our lack of motivation to complete tasks, or procrastination, is the realest of all stereotypes about INTPs. I've always had interests in a lot of things and activities, and usually come up with the most interesting ideas in the group, but I can NOT, even if my life depends on it, complete a project and, BE SATISFIED WITH THE OUTCOME. I guess never being satified with the outcome, and always ending up feeling like "I could do way better" is one of the main reasons of my procrastinating habit. The other one is of course because if I am still able to do it just in time and still be the best among my peers, so why the heck not😁😁 -INTP
Too relatable. I can have with the best ideas, but not nail them down, but come up with some excellent details on parts of how to execute the idea while being absolutely clueless about the other parts, which leads me to not starting at all, or giving up halfway, or having no heart to pay full attention to the latter half of the project and end up knowing I could have done way better but couldn't have because I was unable to bring myself to that kind of devotion anyways.
Totally agree. I have realized I don't start things because I know it will ultimately be judged by my inner critic as not good enough. Trying to adopt the mantra of "Done is better than perfect."
@@jenniferk219 Good mantra. I have two myself. "Nothing good will happen if you don't make it happen." Bad things will, but not good things, not usually. And the other is "The way to get what you want [happiness] is to Go and Do."
My intp fears 1.the mental frameworks and structures i spent years building are ultimately fruitless 2. Rejection by the group because i did something i didnt even realise was wrong 3. Intellectual/physical liberty and the freedom to explore taken away by a suffocating xSTJ government 4. Being trapped in a sensory/real world job that doesnt allow me to use my Ne or Ti 5. My lifelong developed theories put out into the world become hijacked and used for corrupt ends Emotions are fine because they can be analysed until you can step outside of them. Observing them in myself I can see the biases that plague the rest of humanity X-D
My biggest fears: 1) wasting time 2) not finishing most of the 70 open-ended projects I have going at any given moment, before I die 3) obsessing too much over the fact that I waste time obsessing over wasted time. (Fits right in with my procrastination skillset)
Difficulty communicating and the fear of being misunderstood/ misinterpreted is indeed the issue I talk about most often. I struggle to translate my thoughts into intelligible speech in the normal flow of conversation, and even when I do, my careful word choice is often not read as such, but then people are bothered when I try to further clarify. Pls send help
I'm the same- a week ago, during class, we were discussing some topics, about social cognitive and stuff, and... I said things, that according to some pp are insensitive. In my head, it all sounded good and fine, yet, when my teacher answered me... I was like oh sht, I guess I messed up and until now I'm still thinking about it. lol (or maybe not). #helpINTP
I’m an INTP enneagram 4w5 so I feel and think deeply. Accepting emotions is agonizing for me because my regular Fe grips keep on clouding my judgement and I hate it. Makes me irrational and out of control, especially when revealing my feelings to friends.
Alright but can we just appreciate the level of psychological insight this man has? Damn. I'm not too fond of the original MBTI. The INTP (me, who would have guessed?) is rather multidimensional, but other types, such as the ESFJ are broadly defined. I love how he is able to actually think about how different personality types think and direct their energy, instead of misusing them as a label. (Of course, comedic purposes are a different thing)
The scariest thought I can think of in this moment , that I can imagine is - not being true to myself, being dishonest about truth to myself....shudder. But of course this could never happen : ) English is not my strongest language, so I am hoping this is clearly written.
Hey Nathan, nice job designing those mugs, I didn’t know you were the artist - I am a fine arts professor and I actually always noticed how cool these designs were - so really cool
a fear i have is not being unique enough, I have such a strong desire to be individualist and original that it frustrates me when someone copy’s what I’m doing even if I copied it from someone else in the first place
Fear of success. We have great ideas, but are scared of implementing them partly in case we don’t know if we could manage them if they are successful. Story of my life😜
As an ENFP who definitely does not love everybody: INTPs give me warm fuzzy feelings. Also, Nathan, I commend the attention to detail in your comment/subscribe outros. I always watch until the very end because I know they'll be good ; )
I’m an INTP and through lots of introspection and research, I believe understanding my emotions has given me a greater sense of self. Not only that, but a greater understanding of both masculine and feminine energies. Understanding my feelings has helped me to express them verbally without attacking or victimizing myself. I’m able to use logic and remain soft, honest and respectful 😊
i fear fucking up socially. i had good friendships in life that broke or went pretty bad due to my social blunders. it just takes one mistake as an intp. because when you make a mistake, it's a grave one.
I agree. I’m a leftie too and I always liked piano because it’s one of the few instruments that I can play without having to think about being left handed. Having to buy a left handed specific instrument.
I prefer the term meat popsicle. In all seriousness though, as an INTP I totally identify with this and will now proceed to tell you how point by point. #1. I am actually working on this area right now and it is really hard and frankly terrifying. Tapping into my emotions is a bit like trying to understand someone speaking in a foreign language plus my hearing is bad. #2. I don't know if I agree that I need to make people understand my thoughts exactly but I have realized I need to get them out and expressed some way, even if it's art, journaling, etc. #3. I felt stagnate for about 10 years before I finally broke free and made some major changes. I don't know what was harder - the utter boredom of being stuck or the absolute terror of blowing up my life. I do know that the latter is far more rewarding. Whew that's it - must be feeling talkative today!
What actions have you taken do work on #1 and #3? I've been trying to gear myself up for about a year and a half now. #2 I've been doing by starting a blog and writing a romance story and posting it one chapter at a time and feeling connected to the people who comment. One of my commentors is now my beta reader, and we actually talk aloud, in real-time, through Discord. She is a social worker who is helping me work through some of my ingrained blocks and attitudes that affect relationships.
English isn't my mother tongue, but while I was in high school I excelled at it, but seeing all of the other INTPs and INTJs I feel like a beginner who can barely speak English. Watching this channel and reading the comment section led to many more words in my notebook kept for new vocabularies. I started college last week and now I feel inferior and humiliated for how bad my English is, so I'm going to try and improve as quickly as I could.
That first fear is more something that ExTJs would have. I think the biggest fear of INTPs is that they might never achieve what they are capable of because the dumb townsfolk don't understand their logic and want them to compromise their reasons to suit other people's values. The INTP thinks "What I'm designing will work best if you leave me alone and let me do it my way. Also, don't ask me to change it because you don't like the colour".
Not just having trouble accepting their own emotions, but others' as well. When others show intense emotions externally, INTPs often get mad/frustrated because they're forced to engage their Fe. This unfortunately means they can make others' emotional states worse.
I as an INTP I admit that one of the biggest fears INTP's have are their emotions. Recently it came to me that the best way to defeat my fear is doing things that requires emotion (for that thing to be perfect). For example music (playing with the instrument). It's effective, because as an INTP I want to play it perfectly and in order to do that, I need to put some emotion to it. It works (I think) because I fight my weakness with my strength.
As a female INTP: I fear cooking. One, because it is stereotypically a girl's chore or duty. I can literally order that food. Anyway, also the inconsistency of knowing what the ingredient is for but can be used in so many ways. I prefer baking which I naturally avoid.
The British upload schedule: EST has just woken up, rolled out of bed, and struggles to understand something 'thinky' pre-coffee. But you still just like listening to the accent.
This hit so differently because at face value one might take it as them just being robots but Intps understand it as or atleast I do that irrationality brings more harm then rationality and at the end of the day they are seeking peace of mind and of world trying to make sense of it. They are not mad scientist wrong stereotype
The truity site has an article describing seven INTPs, one of whom is the author Stephen King, who has written a thing or two about fear. Since I had not considered King as an INTP, it is causing me to re-evaluate his work in light of his multi-faceted abilities and extended experience expressing fearful emotions. A King re-read is a considerable commitment.
King has excellent past recall. He seems to be fond of the 50’s/60’s/70’s/80’s. His childhood and past experience shape his stories a great deal. He is indeed a master of putting fear into words and scenarios like no one else. He also has a deep understanding of addiction. A lot of his protagonists are loners. If they had to work together with other people for the greater good, it was with reluctance. I don’t care for his recent books because he began to inject his own political ideology into his character or story, just like John Grisham. As for him being an INTP, I never saw that. He seems to be more like an INFP to me (strong Fi).
I think I’m far more sensitive than an average INTP; which made me doubt being an INTP. It especially occurs when I’m sad, I’d start worrying if i overanalyzed being an INTP while I’m actually an INFP. Can other any INTP relate to this?
yep, accepting my emotions is the hardest thing to do. usually if I feel a certain way and its illogical I just try to push it down because I know its dumb but that usually just turns into anger for me.
I'm always telling ppl that beneath my feelz is logic and a rational basis for them. That way, when they see my feelz (and as usual, can't always immediately understand or relate to them) they won't confuse me with one of those ENFJ or other types. This is what makes INFPs often intellectually superior along with INTPs and INTJ. There's logic there, it's just not dominant in our case. But, it comes out at the right times, especially during arguments. So what you said about feelz being beneath your logic struck a chord, because it's logic beneath the feelz for me. - INFP
my list: -Failure. i am afraid of failing because, i was relatively succesful then my peers and i was kind of a "gifted child" (but hell i am not) and my whole life i constructed my dreams, actions, relationships and most importantly my relationship with my own self on this "success" base and i feel like if i fail one single exam, my whole personality will collapse. by the way i am pretty sure my parents doesn't have a big impact on that they are pretty relaxed about academia and carrier stuff, i am not. 2-)being in a situation where i am have to deal with the dumb people in the place i live in, you have to serve some time in the army and the army is... well, the hell, it is full of average people, it is the most sensory place i have ever acknowledged and most importantly the hierarchy sucks, especially when it depends on how much you obey to the rules that they shove up to you. i hate it, i will do my best to avoid it as much as possible. and the only reason i study is going to a better school, so i have less people judging me and more people who is like me to communicate(or not to communicate). i think this fear is the reason of the first fear of mine, but not sure. some bonuses: reality breaking: tough it would be fun, it really scares me mostly because it is unpredictable. becoming the very thing i swore to destroy not changing to good and changing at the same time realizing that i was being absolutely irrational all my life and my whole life is builded on top of a lie
I have so much things to say that I don't have words for. I always end up saying too much to approach what I sense and never quite get there, or decide to say nothing at all. Sometimes I can't even put them into words for myself to mull over, which hinders my thinking process in general. The frustration is just overwhelming.
My biggest fears are commitment and responsibility. I don’t like having set things that need to be done, it stresses me out. I’d rather go with the flow then know that I have responsibilities. So college testing and my future as an adult are not sitting well with me. I don’t like taking action at all.
I don't want to be known by people, less people know me the better. And rather than arguing with people about their illogical theories, I've started to nod along just so I don't offend them and use them if needed. A neat trick lol. Though being closed off has hampered my career drastically. There are barely two of three people who understand me and aren't offended usually.
I remember a line manager once asking me how they should 'manage' me. I replied that they may as well ask me how they should construct a particle accelerator - such a complex question with such a complex answer. They responded with that blank stare that is so common when INTPs say things. I then said, "It's probably best to just leave me alone'. So one fear is people trying to 'manage' me
When once a managing broker asked me how I’m motivated: money, status, success…? I responded nearly identically and was met with the same deer-in-the-headlights stare. I find it endlessly satisfying that despite society’s best efforts, I can’t be pinned down.
Thanks for your work, I spend all yesterday watching all your INTP videos...I already knew i,m a pure INTP, but I was not happy with that, I think I was always fighting to become more INTJ.. this video of fears and limitations was really enlightening
Regarding being misunderstood, I think it works both ways. I have a hard time knowing what people truly mean or if they really mean it when they say anything. I think I’ve developed a habit of just going along with what people say but never actually believing them because I wouldn’t want to accuse them of being untrustworthy for my own lack of social skills.
it's been my experience that most other people do not mean what they say as much as I do. simply another data element that is taken into consideration as I am interacting with people.
I relate to the communication one so much, I feel like everytime I really try to explain myself, nobody really understands. It makes me increasingly frustrated, and I've given up on others understanding me
As an INTP I struggled in the past with admitting I liked someone in a romantic way, I feared rejection. Some things I still fear today is not realizing my ambitions due to procrastination and alzheimer, I fear forgetting everything I learned and the people I know and care about.
As an INTP on the mature side excellent summary of the three key INTP fears. With maturity have learnt to accept my 'irrational' side though still struggle with other's! Not being listened too or unable to communicate my reasoning still a frustration as I find most aren't willing to stay mum whilst I provide the detail and thinking necessary to demonstrate my logical conclusion. Thus why I prefer a captive audience that are 'forced' to listen e.g., giving presentations at work, or written communication. As to stagnation, finding it a real issue in my older years now that my Si has matured and my Ne tempered down somewhat. Tend to find that I need the assistance of an outsider to motivate me into action whereas funnily enough didn't have such a problem with this in my younger years probably due to my youthful energy and an Ne in overdrive.
As an intp, yes. I ignore my problems and act like I'm alright, or I think of a creative/fun way to feel better. I don't talk about my problems and feelings much, which would make people suspect me of lying if I were to talk about it. I can get stressed, annoyed, and embarrassed by my own emotions. I hate it when teachers ask about my feelings/emotions on something or in general, and I hate to seem like I'm venting or getting emotional. I fear showing my emotions or showing too much of them because people would find me weird for it. I at times hate not showing much emotion since people think I'm mean for that, rather than caring to understand me. I want to make sure I can get my point across and communicate correctly with people. I don't want them to get out of hand or offended about what I say. They need to understand where I am coming from, what I am saying, and what I mean. I don't want to hurt their feelings, but my point has to be understood. They'd react irationally, and I don't want them leaving without understanding my point enough.
After getting into multiple arguments with my friend, I realized the cause of my anger was their inability to comprehend my claims and points, which made me frustrated, then I was also angry at the fact that I was getting obsessively pissed over something so small and logically shouldn’t be that big of a deal. It’s a whole process and it definitely feels a lot easier when it’s mentioned in a video to explain why…
I stopped having that fear when I realised and understood the logic behind feelings, how to control them, why they are, and such stuff. Lots of years of analysis of myself and other people's feelings were not in vain! POG
Truthful Kindness here. These fears are much compounded when living with dementia. ❤️. I can see my logic decline, and communication is becoming a big problem I was searching RU-vid for intersections on topic of my personality type (INTP) , living with dementia (probable Lewy Body like the actor Robin Williams), and how knowledge of personality type might be useful for my care team. THANKS for sharing this video.
So true about the emotions!!! But I'm learning how to recognize certain kinds of behaviours that often happen when I feeling a certain way and then i usually try to change what might be causing it. But yeah, it is a complete dissociation of my own self, like my body and mind are two different things
Great video and I say you're dead-on with all of this. I'm a 30yr old INTP and everything you say is my thoughts through life. This sort of CONSTANT fear of emotions, and being sure if I even FEEL them is why I hate Enneagram. They say you can't be a 5w9, but google that. You'll find ALL intps saying "Hey I got this, why do they tell me I'm not real?" lol. INTPs are a deeply conflicted person by default. This is part of why we procrastinate. (That, and the common presence of traditional psychology's ADHD, lol)
This is exceptionally accurate. And, you even threw in a random, little known fact (which makes INTPs happy). As it happens, being and INTP who likes geology, I am aware that evolution is an untrue theory, which helps keep out the depression. (Otherwise, someone smart should take over the world and fix everything [which is said with a bit of jest].) These videos are both very funny and accurate, thank you. Additional INTP fear: dying alone because no one understands your thoughts, and this is a problem because you know that you are human, which means you would be happiest with another human...but you are not....
My fears as an intp woman: 1_being emotional 2_losing my logic and reason ability ( i'd rather be dead than irrational.) 3_wasting my whole potential. 4_being forced to live my life in some way that I don't like. 5_being physically helpless and need others.
As an INTP, I have an almost religious zeal for seeking objective truth, not just in the mundane outer world, but also within myself. I have put a lot of effort into holding myself to account, reflecting on my mistakes in perception, and understanding my motivations. INTPs understand that human nature is flawed, and that we're all subject to self-serving behaviors and attitudes. We even delight in the messiness of human nature, so much so that we can be disillusioned when the rest of the world doesn't think that way. Most people aren't reflective, and they don't push back against flawed thinking. Moreover, most people recoil from examination. They see acknowledgement of their human flaws as a threat or an insult. This puts us in a very tricky position. We hone our ability to perceive and accept the underlying truth, which we then find difficult to express, not because we don't have words for it, but we grow to expect disaster if we speak about it at all. We know we can't grow in a relationship with someone who is willfully self-deceptive, and we try to reassure our partners and friends that having the courage to be honest is what stirs our hearts, but for most people, being comfortable enough with another person to admit weakness takes a good chunk of time. Inevitably, the INTP's partner will have said and done many things that will ultimately prove to be dishonest, and given our deep feelings about truth, the INTP will have a difficult time trusting them. So, my greatest fear is, unfortunately, something I have to face almost daily. I want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I have a neck-high pile of evidence that the person I'm dealing with is dishonest, whether deliberately or through self-delusion. I have to balance my desire for connection against the dread of being pointlessly lied to. The question constantly hangs in my mind - is it better to keep trying despite the long odds against success, or to give up hoping for a meaningful connection and to learn how to be happy alone?
I know what you mean. I often wonder if, despite my feeling uncomfortable with my emotions sometimes, I am actually more honest about my feelings compared to most people. I do know that when I express an honest emotion, many people respond with fellow-feeling.YetI get the feeling if it was reversed,they would pretend they didn't feel the emotion. We INTPs are supposed to be the ones who are oriented away from emotion. I had a friend who took three years to tell me about being abused as a child by a family member. Three years is a LONG time.
1. Emotions aren't necessarily irrational as emotions can be included in process of logical decision making can have rationale to it. I think more of an issue can be when we act purely on emotion or if our reason is flawed in some way such as invalid or unsound logic behind our actions we can lead to a bad decision making. Of course we aren't purely logical beings and we I would say often act and rationalize later our actions (in a way there is necessary pragmatism to it, at least in term of less important decisions as we commit to action quickly achieving sufficient while perhaps not perfect results by doing so, ie heuristics). That said it isn't we shouldn't strive to deploy logic as it's most effective way to navigate and understand reality (at least when done correctly and in congruence with facts). In that regard my fear is more that I will make bad decisions if I don't evaluate situation first and that includes acting rashly due to experiencing emotion. 2. I've massive issue with communicating my point across , part of it is regarding essentially often time when I argue about something it tends quickly devolve into other person referring to my character rather than arguments or claims being made ie "you're mean, rude , argumentative, troll" which I'm either will have to contest or point they are of little relevance to what was argued as even if those qualities correctly would describe me that would not prove or disprove validity or soundness of my argumentation. Another issue is failure to understand purpose of analogy which is to demonstrate point/principle on object/concept with similar/the same properties object/concept that is being discussed that would be relevant to principle/point being made . Essentially person saying X isn't Y and therefore analogy is invalid , despite X doesn't need to be Y only share relevant traits of Y to point being made, so unless you can point to traits would make principle not apply in this specific case or disprove that they share such traits analogy still demonstrates point made or working principle. Same often for inductive reasoning as such relying on concept of probability that some seem to struggle to understand in decision making when they assert "but you don't' know it for sure and therefore your decision making process is invalid/wrong" . That's not even entire story. 3. I'm chronic procrastinator and lazy with ironic streak of being hard worker when I give a damn. Not really significantly afraid of stagnating. That said I would probably fir the bill of Fi-dom rather than Ti user some people claim I'm Ti-dom or NTP.
My partner is an INTP and I think he is truly a genius, a deep thinker, great problem solver, and he is so calm, relaxed and spontaneous! Being an ENFJ myself, I have always found myself attracted to these types of men, and also as friends. It's like looking at the mirror image of myself! Anyway, there is never a dull moment for us, life is always interesting and an adventure to explore.
One thing I've experienced as an INTP is a lack of a sense of community, like even if I'm active in a community I feel that I'm not deserving enough to be considered part of a community nor do I feel anyone else considers me part of it. I've moved allot throughout my life so I've had to deal with leaving a community allot. I don't even think I'm scared of it anymore, since it feels more like an inevitability, but I dread it when I feel like I'm going to have to leave a group, because no matter how many times I 'leave the tribe' it never gets any better even when it becomes more familiar.
a major fear: being smothered >:( esp by emotionally volatile/manipulative people I don't like drama or feeling like I'm /forced/ to do something I disrespect. When people try to take too much of my energy and feel bad when I don't comply, it actually makes me a mixture of guilty and resentful and I'd just rather not deal.
Anymore when I try to think about my emotions or thoughts I end up zoning out with that weird out of body feeling where you just don’t feel anything like you don’t even exist. So I try to just keep myself busy.
👍🏻🏴 Yes. The internet is a ‘Goldmine’. Unfortunately in the 60’s it wasn’t available at University. Your best videos are when you keep them simple without too much technical jargon. Best Wishes.
I find it funny how intps strive to find “the cold dark and logical truth” but the truth is actually that no matter how hard you try, no one will ever be free from their emotions, humans are horribly emotional, and no matter how hard you try, one day your emotions will control you or get the better of you 😅 also, even though im an intp, one of my greatest fears is the fact that no matter how closed off or isolated I become, no matter how defensive and suspicious I am of people, anyone can betray me, and that honestly terrifies me that my suspicion and analysis can all crumble down with one betrayal
When i was a teenager, my biggest fear was to somehow lose control and show what i actually feel to other people. I used to be really into art film and would never watch these serious films with friends, so that i could keep my feelings to myself. I have been working on this a lot, so I am definitely better now, but I still hate sharing my feelings.
