I got really confused during the first video when after they landed the narration stated the pilot called a pan pan to baltimore. Nice to see it fixed so quick!
Aviationaccidents Great video. It would be good to know what safety recommendations came out from the Investigation Report and if the recommendations were accepted and implemented. E.g. was there a recommendation addressed to Rolls Royce to redesign the flitering system to make it more robust and effective against saltwater contaminants? I assume a study was made to ascertain which flights uploaded the same contaminated fuel and why those flights didn't end up in the same predicament.
There's still another error, but perhaps you can be forgiven for it. The graphics used in the video are for the A330NEO, which first accomplished a commercial flight in 2018. The accident happened in 2010, and therefore, the correct type at that time was the A330CEO.
Hope that flight crew got an award for managing a dangerous situation so well. The passengers who failed to follow evacuation instructions, bringing their luggage, should get “I’m an idiot” t-shirts and caps.
To be fair, those passengers were probably highly stressed, and while trying to grab your things is objectively stupid in this situation it can be a panic reaction.
You're the best aviation tragedy narrator on RU-vid. Many will come to witness that we like this platform for a reason. The reason is what i mentioned first.
I got butterfies in my stomach when the ECAM displayed multiple errors and the malfunctioning of ENG-1. What a jaw-dropping narration that is! A huge applause to the flight-crew. I hope you will work on a video covering the disaster of 737 Max 8 ( Lion Air Flight 610 & ET302). Good Job!!
Less than 12 months ago, this channel was started and already has 62k+ subs!!! Your story telling is engaging, visuals and editing awesome, not to mention the amazing narration. Congrats to those who run this channel ❤
i became obsessed with these aviation videos. thank you for uploading your hard work- a overstimulated college student that de-stresses watching these master pieces!!!!!
A riveting portrayal of a real-life aviation emergency. Hats off to the entire crew for their exceptional teamwork and resilience in ensuring the safety of all passengers on board.
A&P/Mx Controller here. It is situations like these that frustrate. If we have to exercise QRH with a flight crew, it is imperative to seek divergence/ODI. A two engine aircraft with an engine in Rx means we have lost our only redundancy in the Powerplant system. Safety MUST always be vital, schedule be damned. These scenarios are saddening. While I’m fine deferring per GMM/SOP, the rapport between the crews and us to ensure proper & safe operation in safety of flight is paramount. A loss of motive fuel function is terrifying, much like fuel or critical flight control surface icing.
I've mentioned this on your very first video. You blew mentour and green dot out of the water. The commentary, the graphics, the story telling the best there is 10/10
That was a nail-biting emergency situation. It ended in the best way possible. This is how we want every flight emergency to end.....but they don't, they are mostly tragic.
The exact same question l was going to ask. I assume other flights must have been affected by the same contaminated fuel but not to the same extent. Perhaps because of a different filter design? Hopefully some research was undertaken to see what aircraft uploaded the same contaminated fuel and why they didn't end up in the same predicament.
My guess is this wasn't just a one time thing. It must have gotten bits of bad fuel here and there that went well beyond expected tolerances. Other flights may have gotten some saltwater too, but limited exposure. I'm just guessing but that's how I interpreted it
I watched this case from ACI National Geographic and i love that episode as much as this new video. Those 2 pilots did it well that day. Btw, Well done👍
Bro ur the absolute Best of the Best (narration, ambiance, simulation, music, some times u do a minute of silence for the people who died, straight to the point....) ❤
Would you please elaborate on this? I’ve recently done some research and have come to conclusions I don’t want to believe, because I like to travel. But risk/reward I’m not so confident since those reports that came out about Bowing
@@dasbootsassa Airline travel is statistically safe. However, there are still statistics… if you know what I mean. The airline industry has vastly changed since my career started and ended. Airline personnel are still highly trained and aircraft are still highly maintained. But the industry would wide is in a very dynamic transition. There are many factors at play. One example is that during the COVID panic, airlines offered their senior more experienced pilots early retirement packages. This was due to the expensiveness of them being at the top of the pays scale. Flight school has continued to greatly increase in price… to the tune of well into the six figures. It’s been that way for a while which has deterred many people from pursuing it over the years. There is an unimaginable passing of the torch.. so to speak in every aspect of the entire operation. New/green( inexperienced) people in all of the positions that require experience. ATC, maintenance, dispatch, pilots etc. everyone has to start somewhere… but in years past. There was more of a mentoring philosophy. The experienced personnel taught the new, less experienced personnel. Example: when I was a brand new pilot, I would fly with pilots with thousands sometimes tens of thousands of hours. Now you have a lot of inexperienced people working with inexperienced people. It used to be that you gained experience by learning from the folks that had it. To go to the major airlines you had to fly for smaller airlines as a First Officer (co-pilot), then upgrade to Captain, gain thousands of hours of experience then you could apply to the major airlines for a co-pilot position. Now they have GREATLY lowered the bar. You can be fresh out of flight school, gain the ATP minimum hours (1500) get hired as a copilot with a 121 operator gain another 300-400 hours and get hired by the majors….totally bypassing the requirement to upgrade to captain and gain PIC experience.. this was un heard of in the old days. So the bottom line? You have a lot of inexperienced people doing a job that requires a lot of experience. Me personally… I’ll never fly again. I’m not saying I was the greatest, most experienced. I retired with about 15,000 hours. I was average at best. But in defense of the industry. They do train with high standards and proficiency. I think overall it’s still the safest way to travel. I was always a nervous flyer if I wasn’t flying.😅 lol BTW, I had quite a few emergencies during that time…that’s where the experience of being mentored and working my way up the ladder paid off… otherwise I could have easily made world, headline news. Not the way I would want to become famous.
I really like your videos alot. So much so that I was just telling my wife how I appreciate the storytelling, the graphics, the narrators voice and most of all, the level of detail you put into these videos. And then I see 8:38 and notice that that computer had windows 10 installed when it should have been Vista or windows 7😂. Anyways I'm not complaining, just wanted to be a nerd and point that out. Already looking forward to the next video, keep up the good quality!
Beautiful graphics on this channel. I love air disaster forensics, you can learn so much, and this team puts together easy to enjoy episodes. Thanks to the team, also, I look forward to the latest Brazil catastrophy, RIP to those souls.
Many such accidents can be avoided when pilots keep calm yet handle the situation like a pro ❤pilot and cockpit resource management play a key vital role.Huge thanks to the pilot for saving lives. ❤
I gotta say again , very well narrated ,...it's like i wait your videos like a TV series , u know... the episode barely ended and u already think to next week and next episode...
@Aviationaccidents Great video. It would be good to know what safety recommendations came out from the Investigation Report and if the recommendations were accepted and implemented. E.g. was there a recommendation addressed to Rolls Royce to redesign the flitering system to make it more robust and effective against saltwater contaminants? I assume a study was made to ascertain which flights uploaded the same contaminated fuel and why those flights didn't end up in the same predicament.
It isn't really Rolls Royce's problem, but that of the works contractors being careless in letting SALT water into the airport refuelling system, with possibly the need for some kind of detector in the pump vehicle to make some subtle indication of the salt, like maybe large flashing beacons visible to all sides and loud klaxon horns alternating with a voice shouting "DANGER, FUEL CONTAMINATED", in English and the local language. You know, the kind of thing that will allow the operator to correct the problem without anyone else realising!
The first to load fuel from that branch of the fuel piping after the contamination, and they got the lot. They only tracked it back through the fuel metering valve deposits, the destroyed filter where they'd uploaded the fuel, and trace deposits.
@@billeldon When you have Batteries, a Ram Air Turbine AND an Auxiliary Power Unit, plus brake pressure accumulators, and it is downhill every inch of the way, absolutely. They should probably have done that earlier to prevent the overspeed landing, but the tough part is guesstimating how much earlier. Unless either of them had recent glider or single-engined experience (power-off landings are a required skill demonstration for single-engined flight, where pilots of multi-engined aircraft are assumed to deal with engine failures by bringing a spare to get them to the accident scene) to guide them, as it isn't something normally rehearsed in the simulator. But when you discover that there is no checklist for the problems you have, that is the kind of thinking that saves lives.
Amazing response from the pilots. I'm surprised this only affected Cathay though. Surely other aircrafts that day must have had the same contaminated fuel. Overall, it does sound like cathay's engine failure protocols were also at fault. With repeated engine issue signals, plane should have turned back much earlier.
I've been heavily involved in the radiographic testing of the very same types of fuel line in the last photo. This was at Sydney airport, and there is absolutely no excuse for this to have happened. How many other airpot fuel facilities are controlled in such a sloppy manner? thanks for the vid and glad it was not a compensation tsunami.
Shouldn't pilots be advised to land at nearest airport when signs of possible engine problems are indicated. Passengers safety should always be number one priority.
If it's recently taken off its much heavier with the amount of fuel so need a big runway to land safely. Usually alot of weight has been shed via fuel use
I’m not a pilot, so I would have turned back at the first sign of trouble. I wouldn’t even keep driving my Jeep if engine parameters showed bad like that, and that’s on terra firma. Regardless, a great job of emergency management by the crew. Also, why wouldn’t they have a mechanical filter last thing on the fueling rig?
They, humans, haven't been through something similar and didn't know what was best. I still don't know what's best... Immediate, abrupt, loss of thrust could be chaos
I was thinking the same. Shut it down, lose altitude and glide it in for a controlled landing. Pilots should practice more all engines out gliding and landings at least in the sims. It seems they panic when they lose engine power. Coming from a hang glider pilot whose every approach and landing has to be spot on as we have no such thing as a missed approach-go around available. We get one attempt and that's it. You blow it badly enough and you're dead. BTW, ACI, another EXCELLENTLY produced video! I hope your channel blows up! MORE content PLEASE!
Excellent presentation, however, single aisle air craft interior is shown several times, although this is a 2 aisle aircraft. This kind of oversight dampens the quality of the program.
Nice video, but I have a suggestion: At the beginning, you tell what happened with the contaminated fuel, so one knows already what is going to happen. I find more engaging if you leave it until you tell what happened with the flight, so more or less telling the same story chronologically, since they didn't about the fuel contamination until the investigation, that happened, obviously, after the flight. I find it's a bit like an spoiler telling it at the beginning, and probably people would like to know what happened and view the video until the end. But that's my opinion. And on another note, the plane is a A330 but the video from the inside is from a single aisle plane 😅
Got to be the world's first Magic Flight. At 5:37 just after take of it had 49540 fuel on board then 30mins later 6:33 while cruising at 39,000ft it had 50300 fuel on board 😂😂😂😂
