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IO - The 7-Word Language Beyond Human Comprehension (Cursed Conlang Circus 3 Submission) 

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My submission for the Cursed Conlang Circus 3 for the year 2024. 10, the conlang with 7 words that transcends the very nature of this universe. #CCC3
0:00 Introduction
2:47 Explanation of Words
13:48 Explanation of Structures
26:57 Explanation of Translations
39:16 Explanations of Translation Ideas
45:22 Big Five Difficult Concepts
1:02:22 Requested Translation
1:06:02 Literal Translation of Requested Translation
1:08:09 Conclusion
1:08:50 Thoughts
1:14:20 Outro

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@ScienceMeetsFiction
@ScienceMeetsFiction 8 дней назад
This video has broken into a whole new level of conlanging. These 7 symbols aren't just words; they're the elementary particles of semantic meaning, which have to be combined into atoms and molecules to come anywhere near describing macroscopic objects.
@ilikechess-22
@ilikechess-22 2 дня назад
didn't expect to see you here
@brightblackhole2442
@brightblackhole2442 3 дня назад
i finally became fluent in this language after 5 days of studying, and now i've been using it for 92 years! thank you, language-making agent
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
I love this comment. I've been looking at it for 3 years now
@Gift_Of_Victory
@Gift_Of_Victory 7 часов назад
Alright, who let him near the pocket singularity!
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
This is beyond 'A'utism, this is 'B'utism. Great video sir
@myboatforacar
@myboatforacar День назад
'B'ut...
@SwankemasterSupreme
@SwankemasterSupreme 14 часов назад
Butism
@bruhzzer
@bruhzzer 14 часов назад
βtism
@thevalarauka101
@thevalarauka101 3 дня назад
literally language alchemy
@saemsodjesft8901
@saemsodjesft8901 3 дня назад
As far as "good" goes- you already described what it means for an object to "want" something: "good" seems like a logical extension of that concept
@JasminUwU
@JasminUwU 3 дня назад
Binary Lambda Calculus is a more general language, but IO seems really fun too
@aaronspeedy7780
@aaronspeedy7780 2 дня назад
Lambda Calculus is a programming language though. It can't describe stuff
@interbeamproductions
@interbeamproductions 2 дня назад
@@aaronspeedy7780never heard of SKI?
@aaronspeedy7780
@aaronspeedy7780 2 дня назад
@@interbeamproductions Wait can that be used to describe stuff? I thought it was also only a programming language. Are you talking about the Curry-Howard correspondence i.e. programs are proofs?
@FloatingChameleon
@FloatingChameleon 3 дня назад
"The Language of Good" fan:🤓 "The Language of Language" Enjoyer:🗿
@minecraftermad
@minecraftermad 2 дня назад
The tower of babel event was the one that split one single word into these seven.
@fractalinfinity
@fractalinfinity 3 дня назад
Fantastic work- but one question. Don’t < and > function more as Syntax than Words themselves? That would reduce the complexity to 5 words with 2 necessary syntactical entities! Edit: An idea, though its introduction would reduce the cursed-ness of the minilang. Representing bracket contents as levels of exponents (shifting words up) would greatly increase readability while removing the bulk of brackets.
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
I totally agree with the first part, and would love to see what your edit speaks of implemented into io
@tylerachase
@tylerachase День назад
your voice is an inexplicable superposition of human and text to speech
@StuffandThings_
@StuffandThings_ 2 дня назад
This somehow feels like a sequel to Goptjaam, it breaks linguistics at such a fundamental level that it is genuinely impossible for a human to use this. You could probably use IO to communicate to aliens from an alternate dimension or something.
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
Hey, I just said that!
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
It's a language outside of perspective. It is universal. Alien language could translate into this and this into human language.
@makinginternetcontent
@makinginternetcontent 2 дня назад
finally! the language version of Assembly!
@jakubsebek
@jakubsebek День назад
This is walking one some thin ontological ice. I know it probably isn't meant super seriously but there is indeed room for discussion about your universal assumptions :)
@ASE_Ridern123
@ASE_Ridern123 2 дня назад
(Insert giant scroll of IO describing all of another universe's objects)
@icecream1773
@icecream1773 3 дня назад
in most kinds of logics, the inexistence of inexistence is the same as existence (one can use double brackets "" so this is unambiguous) this kinda reminds me of when I tried to define "green" using the universal core vocabulary
@Lingostuff
@Lingostuff 8 дней назад
I am sorry, i’m not going to watch the video right now because it’s too massive but I’ll try to will watch it when I have time, for the first 8 minutes I have been fascinated trying to process all, I just need to tell you that this is not only a cursed conlang, but one of the 5 greatest conlangs created in the 2020s, even in this whole century (2000-2024), I know this is too much text, but congrats! I wish you win
@rosearachnid879
@rosearachnid879 2 дня назад
i take this as a direct challenge and i already have the perfect idea for a 6-sememe language that is extremely biased toward reality
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
I feel like I'm being unprogrammed
@StuffandThings_
@StuffandThings_ 2 дня назад
If you could get this all the way down to only 4 words you could then use DNA as a writing medium (with each base being a word)
@thecoolkittensarecool
@thecoolkittensarecool 2 дня назад
You already can do this! It would just be a little inefficient
@janJosu
@janJosu 2 дня назад
@@thecoolkittensarecool it isn't already?
@thecoolkittensarecool
@thecoolkittensarecool День назад
@@janJosu i meant the DNA writing system would be a little inefficient but yeah seeing how inefficient the rest of the conlang is
@locrianphantom3547
@locrianphantom3547 День назад
I think it would be best to reuse RNA codons to code for each symbol like how they code for amino acids in organisms.
@ilikechess-22
@ilikechess-22 2 дня назад
I love the idea, but the video could be 30 minutes shorter without all the "you puny human" jokes Also, at 39:33 , i disagree , as "hi" is like saying "i acknowledge you exist"
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
To be fair yes, since sometimes people greet each other without starting a conversation Also sorry for the length of the videoI just didn't think it would be that long even with jokes inserted
@cmyk8964
@cmyk8964 2 дня назад
Lojban has 2 different greetings for those. `coi` for “Hello, I acknowledge that you exist”, `doi` for “Hello, I’d like to start speaking with you”
@cmyk8964
@cmyk8964 2 дня назад
Good: the quality that a lifeform wants to be in a world where it exists, rather than a world where it doesn’t exist
@Laaonnel
@Laaonnel 20 часов назад
Plants: "Know now the light that I will always reject." Me: "So you are green?
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
I apologize for repeating the "monkey brain" jokes so much, and making thin video, honestly, unnecessarily longer than it should be. This is also a CCC3 submission and I do not actually claim that this language is "the best"; even if you define "the best" the way I did in the video, you can probably make this conlang better. This was originally purely a minilang, not necessarily an interuniversal one, which is why it has stuff like numbers (which aren't required to exist in other realities) and the vague concepts of + and - like representing future and past even though that doesn't make sense at its base. And I know you somehow have to communicate the instructions on how to speak this language to another universe before speaking it, so no, the goal of interuniversality is only half serious and I don't think it can be achived in any way. I am also sorry for saying too much "you would never understand" stuff. Most of the time, i could have explained it; however, that'd make the video even longer if i had to explain every word's function. I do not claim that only i can understand it or anything like that, i too often struggled with translations and had to simplify the final one, but i did attempt to at least somewhat explain the conlang and how it works, with examples partially broken down. I will attempt to avoid leaving it vague and seeming like i just want nobody to understand anything, and try to break down concepts when it's viable.
@jasonegger
@jasonegger 3 дня назад
You can reduce it to 6 words because X is always a subset of I. There is no reason to distinguish between them
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
And the brackets are just syntax from what I understand
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
Yeah I just need to try to describe what spacetime is somehow and this language is already ambiguous enough. At the level of work I have put into the translation, at least, which loses tons of information, I think you *can* describe something less ambiguously but it'd be very hard. But hey it's a cursed conlang I don't think any of this year's submissions are normal.
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
​@@m.i.c.h.oYes, but no words in IO are pronounced and they function weirdly meaning syntax/content distinction isn't really useful and both are inherent parts of the language. Though as another commenter has suggested you can define existence (+) as the inexistence of inexistence ( or ), and I also think you can just refer to objects as IDs attached to the concept of essence (information) or maybe existence, so you can still take the word count down to 5. And if you also somehow define X through I, you can bring it down to 4 words and only 2 of them are content. But that's just speculation.
@LucasBucur
@LucasBucur 2 дня назад
you can reduce it too one word "I"
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
@@LucasBucur no you can’t.
@OpenSourceAnarchist
@OpenSourceAnarchist 3 дня назад
I was thinking of something like this the other day. I envisioned a conlang where any people communicating would chain together hypothetical statements (qualified by the specified knowledge/logic system) and a fundamental part of the language would be the ability to "rotate" though an abstract n-dimensional state space. This would have to be described before any statement it would modify, and then some continuous feature (pitch? color?) or a discrete approximation would allow the person to shift/modify/rotate the statement through the "state space of all possible meanings" relative to an agreed upon metric, sort of like a tensor-based language within David Lewis' modal realism. Your conlang is much more meta, and I have no idea how to actually implement mine, but just thought I'd mention it since we seem to be thinking on similar paths lol
@gannaelasrag
@gannaelasrag 10 часов назад
Ich bin sehr stolz auf dich 👏 Ich war mit dir in der Bibliothek 📚 Mache weiter viel Erfolg
@viiizzaalishvili9967
@viiizzaalishvili9967 2 дня назад
for the language it, to speak/writing it more easily to have a character than can be used to define a concept or a unit of text as an id and then use the character and its id to have represent the concept or the object (O), will shorten it significantly. it could prevent constant repetition of the full descriptions
@annwan9557
@annwan9557 7 дней назад
55:20 another idea for proper nouns would be to define the Unicode standard (somehow) and then say that it is the string represented by [sequence of codepoints, which are all numbers] in Canonical [Composed/Decomposed, doesn’t matter, but you would have to specify, pick your poison] Form in the Unicode Standard
@unyes
@unyes 6 дней назад
Well yeah though for the Unicode standard you probably have to explain how computers and light works or something but like that's unavoidable
@somefan6763
@somefan6763 2 дня назад
Thanks for the language! I thought of doing something similar, but dodn't think it'd come around to do it and I have little to no experiences with conlangs, so thanks!
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
How could you define aesthetic in IO? It's a purely human concept that cannot be defined with numbers, it's like a feeling.
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
Yes, human concepts are very hard to describe as it turns out.
@thwartificer
@thwartificer 23 часа назад
​@@unyesSame would go for any conscious species
@TheBeastyBlackSheep
@TheBeastyBlackSheep 3 дня назад
This is an experience.
@interbeamproductions
@interbeamproductions 2 дня назад
14:06 technically the word for human is... O
@MadMal2024
@MadMal2024 День назад
My brain just melted.
@cmyk8964
@cmyk8964 2 дня назад
This is the OTHER esolang-conlang crossover I never knew I needed after AHL.
@minamur
@minamur 2 дня назад
this needs it's own unicode characters that are symetrical with each other, and being symetrical it implies there should be a back slash and foward slash, so circle, vertical, horizontal, vertical & horizontal, top-left to lower-right, top-right to lower-left, top-left to lower-right & top-right to lower-left, and brackets. slashes could be like superparens, ditto marks, and, or, (i suppose you could just use nand), i dunno
@jr.jackrabbit10
@jr.jackrabbit10 День назад
i am going to beam this video into my brain at 2x speed and become one with the universe
@rowboat10
@rowboat10 2 дня назад
Don't tell me this is brainfuck for language
@rowboat10
@rowboat10 2 дня назад
Just got 1 minute into the video
@abrasmage
@abrasmage 2 дня назад
this was my reaction as well
@jimhrelb2135
@jimhrelb2135 День назад
Didnt get to see the whole video, but I'd be interested in the transcript of this video in IO :")
@Gift_Of_Victory
@Gift_Of_Victory 7 часов назад
I see no problem with this conlang's perceived limitations, as perception is equivalent to reality, thus making this truly a language of all things. To put it more simply, reality is fundamentally a product of the perception that creates it, as reality must exist as a framework for understanding. Existence can be independent from perception, but must also in some sense therefore be independent from reality. But no being can ever be outside of existence, as to be is to exist, and if one exists one cannot not exist.
@kepe__
@kepe__ 2 дня назад
TBWTC MENTIONED
@interbeamproductions
@interbeamproductions 2 дня назад
funny enough, there's also AHL, a human language
@Laaonnel
@Laaonnel 20 часов назад
Easier translation for "friend" could be explained with the etymological origin for "faith" which is latin "fides" to describe a promise between people, in beneficial or negative "faith/fides".
@mike-q2f4f
@mike-q2f4f 2 дня назад
You forgot to include every atom in the universe.
@maxw799
@maxw799 2 дня назад
Oh, you mean, ?
@cmyk8964
@cmyk8964 2 дня назад
You should double check your video editing. Your voice lines very often overlap with each other.
@jlinkpro
@jlinkpro День назад
Cough* lisp *cough
@plopgoot5458
@plopgoot5458 День назад
You could actually describe up and down i think, you would have to describe a direction first, but that is easy: it is just the object that is a change in the context of "posistion" regarding a change forward in time going from one object to another object. Then you would describe up as the object that an object, the "ground", has as a "direction" towards antother object, the "observer" And ground and observer change depening on contexts.
@unyes
@unyes День назад
Yeah that's better than just X
@plopgoot5458
@plopgoot5458 День назад
@@unyes you could even make any subjective experience, just by fist discribing an "observer"
@love2o9
@love2o9 6 часов назад
Isn't it a little biased that you assumed 1 temporal dimension
@glumbortango7182
@glumbortango7182 2 дня назад
31:57 Counterpoint: The topological description of the normal vector on a surface is close enough to the idea of "up" that I'd say it's good enough at a planetary scale. Sure it's not the exact direction that gravity pulls in, but I think it is the direction most people mean when they say "up".
@msidrusbA
@msidrusbA 2 дня назад
this makes no god damn sense to my monkey brain, 10/10
@kw4093-v3p
@kw4093-v3p День назад
I think it would be better to use reality-biased words (human, time, water, fire) and build up the abstract concepts from these words
@unyes
@unyes 21 час назад
That's a different idea and maybe it'd work better for the ccc but not sure
@relt_
@relt_ 2 дня назад
How would you define a scalar?
@unyes
@unyes День назад
All qualities are usually defined with I so likely through that
@relt_
@relt_ День назад
​@@unyes isnt a scalar a type of object which always exists between two other arbitrarily close scalars?
@minecraftermad
@minecraftermad 2 дня назад
I want an llm that uses it for CoT
@herramader
@herramader 19 часов назад
Ok, but there were typos in the English... so how much or the Io is wrong?
@unyes
@unyes 14 часов назад
IO is probably more accurate, I checked the number of brackets and there were as many < as > so every open bracket does also have a closing point. Though there might be some stuff with using the same IDs for different things that causes problems, but it's still likely the IO is pretty accurate.
@herramader
@herramader 8 часов назад
@@unyes yayy
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
Shitpost of 2024 award goes to you!
@davidhand9721
@davidhand9721 3 дня назад
I don't think this is useful. Maybe I'm missing something. What is a "good" conlang, exactly? Like, I get that it's not intended to be practical for humans to communicate ideas, but what _are_ you supposed to be able to do with it? What is the minimum functionality you need to earn the "lang" suffix? I don't understand how you can convey anything specific with this. Like, in every example you give, you can't translate back unambiguously. Real statements about reality _clearly_ do not have a one-to-one map to IO. "To the left of", for example, is indistinguishable from "before", which is also pretty much "smaller than". You can't interpret this. It loses tons of information.
@janJosu
@janJosu 3 дня назад
This is for the Cursed Conlang Circus
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 2 дня назад
I agree. I think it's helpful to think that this is what an omniscient god thinks in, like breaking things down to the quantum scale just to describe an object 'moving' to another point. It's ridiculously useless for us
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
This is for the Cursed Conlang Circus. If you don't know what that is, watch some other submissions. I am pretty sure most others also don't make sense. And the "only good language" stuff I've been claiming was pretty much fully just for the vibe, I don't actually think it's somehow the best because human languages describe the world more efficiently and it's not like anybody cares what reality "objectively" is. Also, the examples were minimally translated, meaning you can describe it in more detail to get less ambiguous: however, that is extremely hard so I did not do that. And anyhow the intention wasn't to make a good conlang; it was to make a cursed one.
@Nick-sp2bq
@Nick-sp2bq 2 дня назад
this whole video was just an excuse to shit on toki pona wasn't it
@unyes
@unyes День назад
No that was a joke I am actually a toki ponist
@Nick-sp2bq
@Nick-sp2bq День назад
@@unyes 💀💀💀
@unyes
@unyes День назад
discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/301377942062366741/1287450923156770866 (ma pona pi toki pona)
@yrurgrhhr
@yrurgrhhr 3 дня назад
iltam zumra rašubti ilatim
@Ptnndrd
@Ptnndrd 2 дня назад
8:45 Bulgaria mentioned 🇧🇬 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥
@LucasBucur
@LucasBucur 2 дня назад
i think consistent syntax and grammar is cringe, you can't pronounce it so it's worthless to have consistent syntax and grammar across different "speakers"
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
If you have a way to consistently pronounce/write it that is hypothetically applicable in other universes, propose it. I made this conlang before thinking about interuniversal communication, so I never made a system like that. Also I agree the interuniversal goal is a bit stupid since not only do the rules need to be communicated somehow but the signals have to literally transcend different areas of physics which is probably impossible.
@brightblackhole2442
@brightblackhole2442 2 дня назад
spoken language definitely isn't the only kind of language that has consistent grammar
@WSB228
@WSB228 3 дня назад
Unpractical and Pointless
@intensebreadexperience559
@intensebreadexperience559 3 дня назад
It's the Cursed Conlang Circus! This is perfect
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
This is for the Cursed Conlang Circus (see ru-vid.com/group/PLZI8zCShyGT9gy0jKUWLmNVtert_CJNEy&si=4KlVmkZybUPFJTdT for previous year's conlangs)
@Dent42
@Dent42 2 дня назад
0:59 Technically, the smallest language is Unary. But good luck writing anything with it!
@rowboat10
@rowboat10 2 дня назад
Ok almost halfway through, would've enjoyed the video if I didn't have to sit through "you mortal monkey brain on rock have monkey brain and are mortal cannot comprehend uncomprehendable universe is incomprehensible" every 2 seconds
@rowboat10
@rowboat10 2 дня назад
I'm not sitting through this video
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
Ok guess I'll repeat less jokes next time
@Garfield_Minecraft
@Garfield_Minecraft 3 дня назад
7 is a nice number, 7 is the number of days in the week 7 is the number of the universe this language looks like it was inspired by computer language like brainfudge not the human one, or the language of god and I guessed it correctly.. and you use marker 4:02 toki pono 💀 tan seme? bro 10 minutes into the video I got enlightened, and now I can see reality as it is.. thank you sensei
@unyes
@unyes 2 дня назад
musi taso la mi wile toki e musi "toki pono anu seme", lon la mi pilin pona tawa toki pona, ike mi li tawa nasa pi sitelen tawa ni.
@tiagogamer2540
@tiagogamer2540 2 дня назад
33:38 Energy's description should have a - somewhere, opposing to Matter's description. They are the same thing, only one is occupying space-time and the other is not.
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