IOWA vs YAMATO BATTLESHIP - INTENSE NAVAL COMBAT 

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what game is??

Japan: build the yamato, the world's largest class of battleships for a decisive jutland-style battle. also japan: bases its entire successful initial campaign on aircraft carriers...

And yet, Yamato would only be effective in perfect weather and at close ranges

@@man7912 Actually, she would be effective at long ranges. She did fire on of the longest recorded hits ever fired, when she hit the US escort carrier White Plains from 20 miles, the preceded to heavily damage the destroyer Johnston, and send blow away the escort carrier Gambier Bay to Kingdom Come from similar ranges. Also, the weather wouldn't have to be perfect, just good.

Yamato would win vs Iowa easily in most conditions. People who claim otherwise are basically the flat-earthers of this topic and dont understand the slightest about naval warfare and numbers. Its actually quite vice versa, its not Yamato... its Iowa that need very specific and perfect conditions to stand a chance.

@@PriestessOfSlaanesh While on paper, they are somewhat even, in real life, the battle would be the equivalent of target practice for Yamato, due to the fact that Iowa’s crew was absolute shit. Like, during shore bombardment on Saipan, she failed to do any real damage, and during target practice on the USS Nevada shortly after WW2 from 13 miles away, with a hit rate of only two percent.

D-Day: Am I a joke to you?

Japanese Soldier in Tarawa : " I don't even know who you are. "

Soviet: WHAT DID U JUST??????

Red Army: *EHEM*

Woooo raptor you watching this ?

iowa fired salvos, while yamato probably fired single shells. Though this wouldn't happen in real life, as both of them would fire salvos

All battleships fired their guns about at the same time. However they usually had 'delay circuits' which delayed the middle gun about half a second after the two side guns. This was for accuracy reasons.

@@ThatZenoGuy Retired Navy Gunner here , the three guns in a turret had a .06 second delay between them , otherwise the simultaneous muzzle blasts would affect the trajectory of the shells ..

@@jackthebagger7589 There you go, basically what I said. Although it differed from nation to nation. Improved accuracy quite a lot too, and yet so simple.

He did break it open but then drowned

LOL...I'd like to know how a .45 got into an engine room. There are 4 BTW...

日本海軍でも、艦種を問わず機関室にいた人の多くが艦と共に海に沈みました。

@creapsmantic That's quite impressive that yamato is still intact after all these years

super pixlemon lord Uh no. The ship is NOT intact, she exploded as she went down which tore her in two.

@BadMunkeyM actually its in great condition just ripped apart in two and considering the face that it got hit by 3 or 4 torps.

USS Montana would beat Yamato's ass up with her 4 main cannons if it was built and while Yamato has 3 Main cannons. Let's see that

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Very one sided but would be fun

Yamato will win but it would be interesting

Just shoot then with AA gun and job done

AA guns would be enough. Those pirate guns wouldn’t even scratch the armor.

Maybe this condition both side have chance. Yamato but can't use naval guns so They need fight with crew guns.

DarkWiz888 Is that, “KanColle”?? 😆

@@Mudkun KanColle *2*

@@Mudkun omg kancolle was my fav thanks you now because of u I found it

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@@Mudkun j

Your right but research does point out the Iowa class battleships in east terminology Stormy weather: Iowa wins because of its more equipped radar and longer range. Clear weather: a draw due to Iowa’s speed and maneuverability Iowa’s guns are more powerful because of there muzzle velocity and slightly smaller caliber as it’s not up to size it’s decided by physics so yes a lot of research points out to Iowa but Yamato is a beast of a ship

@@zenistu5789 and iowa’s are most accurate

well if they blunder into each other at super close range like in this video, Yamato will crush any other battleship. The question between Yamato and Iowa was always who would win in the kind of long range gun duel that Iowa was built to fight. In that sort of fight, though both ships could throw their shells well over 40,000 yards (over 23 miles), Iowa's fire control allowed accurate fire at extreme range and Iowa's radar could track Yamato and feed exact positions to it's superb fire control system at ranges where the Yamato would only know where Iowa is if she has a seaplane scout observing and talking on the radio. Basically at very long range Iowa would be expected to land lots of hits for every hit Yamato lands, so the question is does the better fire control win out or does the crazy thick armor win out.

Yeah, advances in air power, submarines, and missiles are what made battleships obsolete. There's a reason why you see nations build bigger and bigger aircraft carriers, and better support ships, while battleships have disappeared. However, if railgun technology continues to advance, and anti missile systems get better, perhaps we may see submersible battleships. Rather than launch torpedoes, they simply surface, unleash a hyper-accurate and unstoppable salvo of death, and then dive again.

@@zenistu5789 plus the penetrating power of the 16in ap round was superior to that of the 18s on the Yamato and musashi.

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Yes they did

Lol

Apex FFAK bruh

Apex FFAK titanic!

Yamato has a Big T-Pose at the top of its Towerbridge...

its a big t-pose radar

Can you add the fucking time when

Until Lucky E throws some planes at them.

Dude its yamato

IOWA : *sinking* I take that back

DUD HOW DID I FIND YOU HERE JOHAN

@@H0LYZ3N who are you!

See it

Kamikaze Pilot: Years of academy, training wasted!

@@Iamlostofwords I see it too LOL

Pls respect dude

*afloat

Well in actual history the ship can keep survive for 9 hours from America bomber planes. That was intense too.

The Yamato in this video was unrealisticly slow to fire and inaccurate. It was, in these conditions, just as accurate as Iowa. Also Yamato used way larger guns so yeah, that also counts.

@@Starkillerscat yep but count speed + size... Iowa is fast battleship so its faster and smaller making it harder target

@@piotrwawszczyk622 not much smaller and 6 knots faster. Also, faster =/= more agile It still had piss rudder like most BBs

As true as this is the Iowa’s guns (iowa class in general) we’re actually stronger due to higher muzzle velocity which is a factor in long range but this would also mean it would be able to penetrate armor a lot easier and explode inside the ship. Your comment is amazing it’s true but this is my reply

@@zenistu5789 Don't forget Fire Control. Iowa could see and target over the horizon as well as maneuver and shoot simultaneously at a speed almost 10 knots higher than Yamato. Japanese did not have the ability to shoot/maneuver. If they were shooting, they had to go dead straight. If maneuvering they could not shoot.

It has been said that the Bismarck with 14 inch guns, had the most accurate guns of all the WW2 battleships. Not the most destructive, but the most accurate. Because, the ship had an advanced gyroscope, that other enemy battleships of larger size did not have at the beginning of the war. American Battleships that were produced earlier before Pearl Harbor had 16 inch guns. The projectiles weighed 2000 pounds, and could shoot a distance of 20 miles. And they could shoot constantly. One blast after another. In the past, I was able to go aboard the USS New Jersey. What a sight to see those two big gun turrets. Located up front. And one in the rear.. 9 big ass guns total.

Lol. You guys are all wrong. Yamato had better range and thicker armor. Iowa’s range fell a couple miles short, but had far superior fire control. Also. The size and shape of the Yamato’s shell made it less likely to penetrate at range if it did hit. Not due to muzzle velocity. Due to shell design.

@@zenistu5789 That's not the case. The 16" .50 cal. fired a shell with slightly better penetrative ability outside 20,000 yards, but the 18.1" shell had a much larger bursting charge. The Yamatos carried much more armor than the Iowas and had an immunity zone twice that of the U.S. ship.

Montana cấp X Yamato ngoài đời đáng IX thôi ko như game. Tôi nghĩ Montana vs A-150 sẽ cân sức hơn.

Sovetsky Soyuz vs Yamato hay hơn đấy.

Yes

Or do a fight with H41 bs Yamato

Ship Yamato dàn súng phụ nhiều + giáp đai dày đứng im bắn nhau giữa trời sáng kiểu này cho dù có là Motana cũng ko ăn thua đâu

Sister Battles

They will lose because the Japanese are going to T-pose the shit out of them.

Arnodi Dihendry Missouri is the same as Iowa. Obviously two Yamato’s would win against two Iowa’s

And Wisconsin

@@lordmegatron2698 Not really... It depends on some situations like weather conditions.

Well, its a fish hotel now

@@DooTSweeT lol

Yes, a Hotel, a Hotel that have sunked by 10 carriers, 400 aircrafts, and 40 bombs and torpedos. Did u want to see if was reverse? If the BB was the Iowa, there was 10 JAPANESE carriers and 400 aircrafts? I think i knew who could win this battle.

That would not even last an hour japanese pilot's would go kamikaze at the iowa And iowa would become the greatest fish hotel

@@rAizen03 my brother in christ one of our destroyers survived 4 direct bomb hits, and 6 kamikaze attacks, if a destroyer could handle that, i believe the Iowa could too.

それ思った

I noticed that too, it's silly.

仕様でできないのでは？

I think even in close range Iowa could still win. Its superb fire control allows it to track and fire at enemy ships while doing extreme evasive maneuvers to dodge enemy shells

Yup if it was long range the Yamamoto wouldn't have even known what hit it.

Which has the strongest armour and the weakest armor? North Carolina, South Dakota, or Iowa

+@@joshuaraewa-ay9684+ Iowa Class had the same belt thickness and coverage % as the South Dakota's but was inclined at 30° to give it sloped armor effect at a distance. Like I said; built for distance fighting, plus had an astonishing flank speed of 34-36 knots in good weather.

@@joshuaraewa-ay9684 The weakest would be North Carolina, since its armor was designed to withstand a 14 inch shell. South Dakota and Iowa were both designed to withstand 16 inch shells, but Iowa had a newer and more advanced armor design, plus Iowa had more armor overall due to being a longer ship Iowa>S. Dakota>N. Carolina

Dude that North Carolina class and Washington uss class of North Carolina

Mismatch, the American ship outguns and outarmours the German ship (though Bismarck could simply decline engagement due to being faster).

Hood

I have a wargame call Atlantic Fleet and I played with the Bismarck and Scharnhorst vs North Carolina, 1:1 and both german battleships sink the US Battleship

South dakota? I think its Icecream Vendor

さだちゃん アイオワは速力重視だったよね確か

対金剛型だもの本来ならモンタナ級戦艦と対決で同等かと。

逆に30年前のおんぼろ戦艦に対抗するための戦艦作るってアメリカの国力よ…… 日本戦艦の練度と優秀さはあるのかもしれないけど

@@yukikaze510ify そのためにわざわざでかい戦艦つくった…つまり…金剛が最強なのでは？

true!

The Yamato is the strongest dreadnought and battleship in the world. Why would this and yes it is.

clear win by Yamato for sure

? whats a navy secret ?

@@tavish4699 that spinny levitating axe

I don't think that's a great US navy secret... maybe it was declassified recently.

I think it's a *joke*

@@Jin-di9zv yeah

透青星 さんそれそれ

モンタナについては、 アメリカイキリ乙

@@user-ch9ro5qv6iやめたげてもうアメリカの耐久値はもうゼロよ

Umm..... I with Titanic wasn't in Japan..... I am not bad.... But can someone please tell me what is going on here?

この距離なら射撃管制とかダメコンの優劣とか関係無しに、打撃力と強靭さでまぁ大和の圧勝ですね。アイオワも良い艦ですけどこういう戦い向けには造られてませんからね。

黒雪/Kur0Yuk1 さん同じく自分も日本人ですがアイオワ級は好きです。ちなみにアイオワと戦うけど大和の行動がおかしい。

アイオワ級戦艦も好きだけど自分的にはモンタナ級戦艦が好き

大和型にタイマン張れる戦艦なんて存在しないからね。(苦笑)

相山治祥 精度がゴミだから……

アイオワ級良いですよね。 個人的にアメリカ海軍戦艦で一番好き。 エースコンバットとかでも敵艦役としてちょいちょい出て来るし。

Hey, you never know....

This was done in Men of War Assault Squad 2

World of men

@@homemadethingies627 + Anime World of Women

Lol

Actually it's the *DEFINITION OF INSANITY* .

Marlou Amadeo Kantai Collection???

0:38 USS Iowa: What the hell is that. SHIT! Alert alert! There's a Battleship IJN Yamato! (Alert sound)

It depends on range really along as yamato is in range for effective combat iowa with its lesser guns and weaker armor would be torn apart though yes not without damaging yamato greatly.

Yea

@@corieellis6801 Warning: uss lowa's weakness is AP Shell

@@corieellis6801 Honestly though, if the Iowa AP shells efficiently, they would likely both sink, or at least cause irreversible damage to Yamato.

If there was USS Montana then the Americans should have won

They were in close range though, according to professionals, the victory would depend completely on the battle circumstances

Assuming you are not a professional , of course

Yamato's main armour was deficient in design - they couldn't make it in one piece and ended up just riveting 2 thinner sheets together. Analysis of the hull wreckage showed the rivets broke under stress during combat. Factor that into your simulation ...

Well that would be a 2 on 1 fight If I was Capt of the Iowa in that fight I'd turn my guns on to the Hood and sink it myself because it not going to do me a shit bit of good, It's a cruiser not a battleship it has no armor no protection

Snake Plissken *when the matchmaker turns on friendly fire and you have that one useless teammate*

@@snakeplissken2018 dude, the Royal Navy was the most powerfull navy at 1941, Hood was the best ship of they, you cant talk that the hood will go sunk because hes a battle cruiser, what happened to he in the denmark strait was luck, because this can happen with ANY ship or tank.

@@snakeplissken2018 its logical, the hood will go sink in a battle vs the Yamato and Bismarck, but what have you talked dont make any sense, Hood have a good armor in the sides, but not in the deck, he sunk beacuse thar

@@snakeplissken2018 he is classified how a battle cruiser because that, Heavy armor and main guns.

Timestamp

@@Profkol0rado 1:37 at the AA guns.

@@mrdriver2988 thank

アメリカの戦艦はノースカロライナ以降 巡洋艦はボルチモア以降が砲弾がSHS(スーパーヘービーシェル)になってるから他国に比べて貫通力が高いですよ

ユンカースju-87ストゥーカG-6ジェリコのラッパ 超重量砲弾って奴かぁ？

Daniel fmatosrivera To be honest, if this battle somehow happened in real life (unlikely as both ships were obsolete upon launch and should never have existed to start with), it would end badly for everyone. Whoever wins is going to be badly damaged and easy prey for the enemy.

Victory depended entirely on battle conditions. In clean weather Yamato wouldn't loose to an Iowa.

Starkiller's cat In clear conditions radar-guided firing is far less of an advantage, so Iowa would have worse odds, but she’s still faster and still does have good enough firepower to win, albeit taking major damage herself.

@@bkjeong4302 not by much, either in firing speed or movement. They are similarly accurate, and Yamato has way larger guns. It's either who shoots first or battle conditions

Starkiller's cat I meant the speed of the ship, NOT firing speed. 6 knots (27 knots vs. 33 knots) IS a notable advantage; at the very least it enables the faster ship to run away if the fight isn’t in its favour.

ここで天皇陛下万歳はおかしいw

ﾃﾝﾉｳﾍｲｶ ﾊﾞﾝｻﾞｧｲ

英語だからてっきりアイオワ勝つのかと思ってた

ユウ・カジマ・スカーレット 先後のアイオワの艦内で言うならまだ分からんでもないけどな笑

They dont have enough resources and ammunition

Even modern submarine with nukes?

Piotr Wawszczyk i am talking about the battleships of yamato’s time

@@yashsingh3126 the Yamato can destroy every battleship of her time in a 15 km or closer, becouse in ww2 she didn't have radar, making very difficult to hit a projectile, at least, in this range, she can hit. But in 16km or far, wins the Iowa and Bismarck class battleships, becouse of the radars of aiming, that make the USS, and KMS ships hit a lot more of shots

If you put the stats, the training, and the crew against each other there is no way the Iowa looses.

@@loganlilland3249 of course not, but we don't know about the crew of Yamato in a ship vs ship, but the adventage of the Iowa is the tecnology that she had. If Yamato would have a radar, we don't know the end of that battle. But if we talk about the original states that the ships had in WW2, the Iowa would win.

Yep. No oil well pumps in engine rooms either...

Those ships are from vlss mod. Other things are custom, like sounds, etc.

Kentkenny why do you mean t pose you said a bad word t pose is a bad word!

I’m reporting

@@sawyerislesministryofdefen1845 what are you even saying..

Lee Somboon t-pose isnt a bad word, what are you talking about?

一斉射撃した時でも若干ズレて打つように設定されてるけども一斉射撃だと大和船体がもたないてかそもそも46センチ砲搭載してる割に船体がコンパクトな大和…

But lost to some planes

"The right ship for the wrong war".

Yamato never Sank a large Warship but Bismarck does

@@chunkysquirrel3038 you mean 900 plane with 400 bomber xD

@@AbdulRasyidPangrango-qr9dt no because I don't care about the history actually

Neither side would, the 16" guns on the Iowa actually had superior range to that of the 18" guns on the Yamato. They would have taken full advantage of that.

A much luckier Yamato for basically stumbling upon an Iowa at ranges that would be considered "close range" for an Atlantic duel 20 years earlier in WW2 when the Iowa's radar would normally see Yamato as far as line of sight to the horizon allows, and it could "blindfire" with incredible accuracy, something that no Axis ship was able to do (that means fire on something it never actually sees with optics). In a long range gun duel, the battle could go either way, in a fight like that one where they are only like 3 to 5 miles from each other, Obviosly all the advantages go to Yamato.

@@22steve5150 Yep, although Yamato did show herself to be capable of fighting from long ranges during the battle of Samar, Iowa would be much better.

T pose

True, their capability is on accuracy, speed, and fire control. But Yamato is having thicker armour , and greater guns. Just like a MMA fighter against a sumo wrestler on A fight match.

If the Iowa knew where Yamato was (ex: yamato doesn't sneak up on it) then sinking the Yamato would be a cake walk for an Iowa. They can shoot exceptionally far with exceptional accuracy and are much faster. All the Iowa has to do is keep its distance and run circles around the Yamato and use its radar.

@@zachrowell7625 Yamato is lacking on good crew, once its got a good crew , and better fire control, there Will be two condition. On a sunny day, Iowa Will lose due to Yamato's gun And armour is better, but on rainy , mist or night, Iowa Will win the battle since Iowa's radar is superior, also Iowa still superior in speed too, so she can control the battle speed. Imagine if we can combine both of them, and with Bismarck's reload speed with only 20 secs....

18 inch with less power than Iowa 16

The sister's hip of the Iowa, the Missouri would win against the Yamato, because the Missouri was upgraded by the Americans to fight in the Iraq war

@MitchellShepard Or maybe cooling water intake?

Bismarck Vs Yamato too Bismarck sinks but still fights

Kantai Collection? 😂😂😂😂

@@Mudkun huh? I don’t understand

@@Ace_Star_543 It's a Japanese video game that is all WW2 ships are turned into human females, like Iowa and Yamato. And you fight the demon ships during missions and events. 😊⚓

@@Ace_Star_543 The gameplay is that yourself as the Admiral of your fleet, do something, upgrade your shipgirls, and complete them to unlock stuffs and aid more characters. ☺

That would have been one of the most violent and gruesome battleship clashes of all time. Binkov's Battlegrounds has done a video showing just how evenly matched the vessels were in areas, and their sheer power. The reason he said Iowa had a chance of victory is partially because of its speed advantage over Yamato's heavier and slower hull.

yamato

한국인이드앗!

That’s a hilarious mismatch...

The Yamato destroyed the Iowa. Bismarck has no chance.

Yamato only lost a few AA guns and her foward gun turret.

@@johnsten4100 Iowa lost her rear turret and that caused instant flooding 🤷‍♂️

To be honest the outcome of this battle wouldn’t be obvious. Both ships are quite capable of killing the other.

@creapsmantic Thinking of the Tirpitz? Bismarck was sunk at sea.

there's a lot out there

アイオワからしたら大和の主砲弾くらったら危ない

あの距離だと大和の対46cm装甲にアイオワの主砲弾当たるだろうしアイオワの紙装甲じゃあ大和の46cm主砲を防げないからそりゃあこうなるわな

大和はやっぱり浮沈だな！(過去形)

私なりの考えですが🐱この動画のように昼間の戦いなら火力で大和がアイオワを圧倒すると思います🐱しかし夜間の戦いではレーダーが優れるアイオワが有利になると思います🐱しかし大和もアイオワもカッコいいですね😺🎵

日本の勝利である。(大本営発表)

Iowa and Missouri sink, Yamato will go heavy damage, but he was created for this... I can talk this using the history, Bismarck was sinked by more than 40 royal navy ships, (Royal Navy was the most powerfull) BUT, was he tripulation that realy sink he, they had used bombs on the bismarck hull. Same with all the RN main guns shooting at him he dont sunk beacause hes hull was created for that. Bismarck are a Iowa more "light", now, imagine the same thing with the most powerfull battleship vs 2 South Dakotas Upgradeds... What turned the Iowa class famous waa beacuse they was the faster BBs, yes, they have good A.A guns, main guns, etc, but they always will go be a upgrade of the Dakotas.

iowa and missouri basically means 2 iowas, no point ;-;

Or maybe Iowa, New jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin, Vs Yamato, Musashi, and Shinano

@@metaknight115 shinano is a carrier. Maybe change it to nagato or some other Japanese battleship

@@Absolut531kmh Eh, it’s always good to have a carrier in my opinion.

なんか、、、失礼かもしれませんが、大和の装甲は46センチ砲に耐えられるように作ってあります。 至近距離はダメだけど

気まぐれボーイ マロ⦅Nickel-Bear⦆ すごくいいレーダーがあったって主砲の命中率が低かったらダメ だからね。ふるいこめに失礼しました。

@@dorimuku9883 多分ラグだったのかな？

Named after Kirishima Class and type of vessel Congo-class battlecruiser Organization Imperial Japanese Navy Manufacturer Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Nagasaki Shipyard & Machinery Construction started March 17 , 1912 Launched December 1 , 1913 Put into operation August 1915 Status Sunk on 15 November 1942 during the Battle of Guadalcanal Main Features Displacement standard 31 980 t full 38 200-38 900 t Length 219.5/222.1 m Width 29.3 m Precipitation 9.7 m Booking belt-203-76 mm; traverse - up to 203 mm; deck-80-152 mm; towers-up to 229 mm; barbettes-229 mm; casemates-152 mm Engines 4 Kampon MAL Power 136,000 hp (100 MTue) Travel speed 30 knots (55.6 km / h) Cruising distance 10,000 miles at 18 knots Crew 1,437 people Armament Artillery 4 × 2 - 356-mm / 45, 14 × 1 - 152/50 Anti-aircraft artillery 4 × 2 - 127-mm / 40, 10 × 2-25-mm/60 Aviation Group 1 catapult, 3 seaplanes On the night of November 14, 1942, during the next raid to Guadalcanal, Kirishima, the former flagship of the Japanese connection (covering forces of the convoy that delivered large Japanese land formations to the landing site), engaged in an artillery duel with the American battleship "South Dakota" (South Dakota), caused damage to it (hit by 1 shell, penetrated both sides of the hatch coaming and detonated on impact with the barbet. Hole in the upper deck 0.914×3.048 m. The casings of the central and right 16-inch guns of the GC No. 3 turret were damaged. Water and gas reflective barriers 30 feet around the barbet were destroyed. The main armored deck reflected all the fragments. The right catapult and several 20-mm submachine guns were damaged), but the ship itself was heavily damaged by battleship fire "Washington" (Washington), which came undetected at a close distance (3 miles). Kirishima was hit by 9,406-mm and about 40,127-mm shells, the ship lost control, two main-caliber turrets were destroyed, and severe fires started. On the morning of November 15, 1942, the commander ordered to abandon the ship, which sank 5 miles from the islandSavo. 209 people were killed. 1,025 sailors and 61 officers were rescued.[4] A Japanese convoy bound for Guadalcanal was routed the next day by successive attacks by American aircraft. "South Dakota" after this fight was out of action for 14 months, "Washington" - for 1.5 months.

Lol

Theres none left

15 miles is the range of the longest ranges naval hit, the fight would start out at 25,000-ish yards, followed by both ships crossing the range for better accuracy.

oh yes I have the kv btw in wotb

finally someone noticed

同士よ

天皇陛下万歳w

@@knj0410 ハンドルをトメトケー

Azur Lane or Kancolle/Kantai Collection

Been saying that for years, but some people just don't want to hear it.

The U.S. Navy test which you're referring to was between two projected U.S. Navy weapons. The U.S. Navy 16" .50 cal. gun of the Iowas was at the end of the weapon's development life, whereas the Japanese 18.1" .45 cal. gun of the Yamatos was a new gun. A comparison of the two guns actually used makes clear that the 18.1" gun was the superior weapon, with a shell weight advantage of 500 lbs., a bursting charge almost twice as large, a far larger danger space, and a slightly better reload time. On the other hand, weight considerations (as you mentioned) were a consideration for the U.S. Navy since they wished to remain within the treaty limits of the escalator clause- whereas the Japanese began building the Yamatos after Japan withdrew from treaties...