This is one of the best battles of all time and definitely the best example of scheming vs punching. It's really a preference battle, you can't lose watching this.
"sliding in and out of blue like you are barbicide" is a barbershop bar. Barbacide is a blue disinfectant that barbers dip straight razors in and out of before use. Plus Nitty is a crip which makes him the "blue" in the bar.
The fact Iron came back and was able to hang with someone like Rum is crazy. Would recommend watching: Oops vs daylyt Pat stay vs shotgun Ill will vs a ward Thesaurus vs fresco Dizaster vs danny myers Soul khan vs qp Brizz rawsteen vs arsonal
The reason this battle is so much shorter than some of the others you’ve seen is because it’s what’s called a ‘small room’ battle. Basically, there’s big stage (like what you’ve seen mostly) Pit (like if you watch something in the blue room, still a pretty decent crowd but not the same as a stage) Small room/volume (like this, maybe a few more people sometimes) And then really small room, which is more rare but battles like Roc vs Daylyt or Roc vs Mook are some of the first examples that come to mind.(
11:00 he does a DNA type scheme (helix, chromosome, strand) And then says the other layer is cloth/clothes type stuff (follow the thread/cut from the cloth/sewn) The punch you didn’t catch was ‘he seem stressed’ (seamstress)
AVE’s slogan is “Straight Like That” AVE is from Virginia so he did the “it was looking VA but now it’s straight like that” bar to highlight it even better with that punch
Before you can catch most battlerap bars, there's a few hood movies that you have to watch. Here's just a few: Belly Juice Menace 2 Society Boyz N the Hood Paid in Full New Jack City Once you watch these movies you'll catch so many more bars
Along with: Life,All 3 friday's and godfather's,kings of new york and he got game.. #now adays;if u havent seen any anime,theres a good chance youll miss references...
@@k3vdak1ngreason why I say nitty didn’t so so hot is because Solomon attacked his gun bars, and nitty had zero reply. Just kept doing the exact same thing every round. It’s not just a game where you come out swinging with the exact same punches every round. Gotta switch up, it’s tactical
I need the Loaded Hollows vs. Gunz N’ Cake reaction bro. Tay Roc, Chess, Loaded Lux, and Hollow Da Don. Also probably worth watching Loaded Lux vs Calicoe and then Lux vs. Hollow for context on a lot of battle rap. Lux vs. Cal is one of the most iconic and referenced battles ever (you’ve seen a few moments from it but should see the whole thing.) Also, for more recent battles you should definitely check out Rum Nitty vs. A.ward. Personal pick also would be Fresco vs. QP. It’s not a huge battle, but it’s a little different from the URL style and doesn’t have too many references that make it complex, and some of the bars are crazy, the type of ish you’d like. Last one, but check out some Pat Stay (RIP). He was killed this month last year and has some of the best material ever. A real legend. I’d recommend his battles with Hollohan (pretty old), Shotgun Suge, Arcane, and if you want to try out a compliment battle (very different vibe and very fun) his battle with Dunsh. Keep up the fire.
You should definitely watch JC vs Chef Trez. Also if you gone watch battle rap, you gone need to watch movies because there is a lot of movie references that you will miss.
Nah I’m one of the few who agrees it’s 3-0. All close rounds, but still 3-0 Iron definitely got the 1st in the 2nd round. 2nd round is the only clear Iron round. And I think he edged the 3rd.
16:07 Nahhh dpnt gas yourself you still missed it... Jonesin to give a Jew L on Cam, I really Need it -- Jim Jones, Juelz & CamRon made that classic Dipset song I Really Need it.. Lolll nah you really do catch most bars and all the entendres that ppl miss on the first listen
Bro love the content but here's a bit of advice..ive been watchin BR for a long time and this is a sport where you are not going to catch every bar first watch .shit some battles i rewatch 5/6 times and catch new bars .so its pointless for you to pause yo vids and try and figure out the bar ..i get it when you pause on a bar you caught and was fire ... but like i said alota times you catch shit on the rewatch 🤝
But enough iron.. deficiency.. find your body with the fish in sea.. that third round and first round from both are a tie, i got iron in the second round but this is a straight up Culture Win, nobody lost
Seem Stressed = Seamstress. One who sews clothing is a seamstress. "i got this bitch sewn thats why he seem stressed" with all the other sewing bars. Helix, knit, thread, strand, weave, etc
When nitty said “think it’s a game then two will sit you down, the documentary “. That’s a reference to The Game’s album the documentary, the cover art is him he’s sitting on two wheels
Bro you need to watch some Pat Stay battles. He's easily top 5 of all time, I'd have him top 3 because he doesn't have a single weakness, he has bars, he's for sure the funniest battler ever, and he also crafts the best angles for his specific opponents. RIP Pat Stay. Also you HAVE to at least watch the first round of Bigg K vs Ahdi Boom because Ahdi Boom is making his return after doing a little bit of time but Bigg K secretely found out Ahdi Boom snitched on his Co-defendant. Bigg K LITERALLY pulls out 50 copies of Ahdi Booms court paperwork and hands them to the crowd and then raps about how Ahdi Boom being a snitch. Its arguably the most powerful round in history based on Ahdi Boom's career ending after that battle.
Pat is absolutely top 5. Average? That's crazy. He might not be your preference but his influence on battle rap culture is not arguable. Who's yalls top five if pat ain't there?
@@josephbattaglia6120 hollow da don, loaded lux, tay roc, tsu surf, iron Solomon, daylyt, geechi gotti, rum nitty, and you could argue others over him too
9:24 - I'm still sick about noone catching that line! "If a BAND (thousand dollars) to my boy will buy you a bed at the morgue, he'll PAINT the whole fucking room for a BENJAMIN (hundred dollars) MO(O)RE!
They call that a gentleman’s 30, where it could go 3-0 either way. I think if Zero caught all the bars, he’d score it differently. Hell, I score it differently every time I rewatch it 😂
You can’t really pick a winner till you understand the references bro get your phone out an google the scenes and images you’ll be amazed at what you’re missing 💯
No bro, its i been Jones'n, to give a jew Ls on Cam..I REALLY MEAN IT.. [jones(jim jones) Jew Ls(Juelz Santana,), Cam(Camron)] I REALY MEAN IT[ The song title]
mastery of scheme punching ! a whole hand scheme tht was all doubles ! I COULD BOX WITH BOTH FISTS ( ALL FINGERS ) JUST TO PROVE A POINT TO THEM ( POINTER FINGER TO THUMB ) MAKE IT 3-0 WITH ( ONE HAND ) ( PINKY ) IN THE AIR WHILE I SIP SCOTCH ( MIDDLE FINGER ) THROUGH YOUR ROUND ... ( RING ) POP piece it all together those the type of lines that created ( SMACK )
I've been (Jim Jones) Jonesin to give a Jew Ls (Juelz Santana) on Cam (Cam'ron) I Really Mean It (their song from diplomatic immunity vol1). 2 Will (Wheel) sit you down like The Documentary (look up The Game - The Documentary album cover). Honestly the battle is 2-1 either way, considered a classic.
Movies you need to see to catch the bars. Belly New Jack City Friday 1-3 Juice Boyz N Da Hood Menace ll Society Set It Off Tv show you need to watch. Martin Power The Wire Breaking Bad The Sopranos Games you need to have played Madden 2k I'm sure I'm missing plenty. But this is a start. Bonus: stay up to date on your sports and know your history with sports. Watch old battles to catch some of the references as well.
The I cant wait to give a jew L's on cam is a refrence to the song I really mean it. It's a Diplomats song, a group featuring jim jones, juelz santana, Freeky Zeeky and Cam'ron. (Killa cam) So he's saying Juelz Santana and Camrons name in refrence to jew l's on cam.
For the bar at 15:35 he was referencing dipset and one of their songs. Ive been JONESing (Jim Jones) to give a Jew Ls (Juelz Santana) on Cam (Cam'Ron) , I Really Meaan It (tthe song)
Two classics you gotta watch: Iron Solomon vs. Math & JC vs. Chilla Jones Iron vs. Math is old af but still holds up today. JC vs. Chilla didn't age as well (Chilla rounds at least) but it was hella influential at the time and a breakout performance from both. And both those battles are shorter
43:31 Yeah that was a watch bar. Hublot’s are some of the most expensive watches in the world along with AP’s & Milles. Also playing on all the white rappers he mentioned Mike P, Nunn Nunn, Joe etc.
Great battle but you missed a lot of Nitty bars, prolly why u called it a 30. No hate tho I ain't mad. Iron cooked this battle. You should do AVE Vs Geechi (punchline battle)
I highly recommend watching hitman holla tv show “ bags and bodies “ they have unknown battle rappers competing in challenges and battling against each other for grand prize of 50k
Iron really cooked Rum the entire battle. Was talking man to man no funny shit. Rum doing his thing with guns bars as usual, but Iron really attacked that with his angling and that’s why I give him the edge. Rum had no answer and didn’t try to switch up at all.
What makes the Ave bar hit so heavy is because Ave is from Virginia so when he says it was looking like a VA now it’s straight like that. I’m from Norfolk straight like that is Ave slogan
10:44 So y’all see who can (weave/ fabric or fabric item) best I got this bitch sewn that’s why he seems stressed (seamstress - a woman who sews)😭🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
48:29 that bar was a deficiency/da fish in sea flip. not enough iron = being iron deficient, which can lead to death. finding your body swimming with the fishes means you dead/got whacked.
Rum nitty wore fake shoes at a battle and got called out for it that's why he mentioned the fake Jordans Also rum nitty was in different battle rap groups before he was in efb
It's ok, we went threw the same thing, when we seen this for the first time, just rewind it, and listen. Context, a seamstress, is a person that uses needle and thread to fix clothing.
41:15 the five fingers Scheme… he said just to prove a point to them make this 3-0 with one hand. “Point to them” = (pointer, thumb) you use your pointer and thumb to make the 3-0 symbol.
This battle is still so high level and this happened almost 6 years ago. Way ahead of their time. I still think Solomon won clearly 2-1 or a gentleman's 30 bc Rum went crazy too but iron won