Is 2589 the End Of Halo? | Lore and Theory 

Many wasted potentials easily can be explored, osdt, marine, aliens, story compan. Many many more they can make story but they only focus master cheif story I'm alright I love this big green man but we need more diversity

I mean, Halo Reach was the loss of Hope, would be fitting that whatever the end is would be the regaining of Hope for humanity

@@TheDragonfridayThey have to. He’s literally the franchise lol. Plus Steve Downes time on this earth is limited, so Chiefs story needs to be tied up.

It'll go the Mass Effect route I think. Multiple species living together in a semi-galactic society. The Human-Covernant War is just one story & it's loaded with lore, imagine humanity in another 500 years in Halo, all their worlds will be claimed plus more, all other civilisations like Elites will be living in peace with them in some kind of federation council. & they can introduce new civilisations & conflicts.

Imagine one of the missions being retaking reach, landing on it and seeing the effects of the glassing. That would be really emotional

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​@@sharonbraselton4302 What?

@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Stroke.

Those dates are totally wrong though. The interviews may be canon, but the dates definitely aren't.

@@johnmichinock752 Source?

It already is

I don't. Imagine trying to sort through 28 years of taxes after being declared KIA. You just know a government like the UNSC is going to still have their citizens file papers.

I would be on board with that, but I unfortunately don't see that happening under 343. I believe they will continue making their games Rated T as long as they are striving to reach out to the "broader audience."

​@Woog-04 same crap as what they did with the jurassic park movie vs the novel, the novel was way more graphic, but no Hollywood wanted to appeal to kids, in this case bungie started halo rated in mature, over time it became rated teen, but I'm assuming this is Microsoft at work more than 343 seeing the teen rating came along in halo 2 if I'm not mistaken

@@rickyb4849 nope Halo 1-3 were rated M

@@rickyb4849 Halo Ce-Halo 4 were all rated M.

@@nickm5419 I could have sworn when I first bought the halo 2 when it came out it was rated t, I guess I was wrong

unfortunately I don’t think 343 has it in em

​@@SaltyCanadianThey don't, the deep understanding isn't there. At least Frank O'Connor isn't around anymore to further damage the setting with his "guidance."

Not really, they changed established lore just to prop up their new characters then killed all of their new characters off. Felt like a bad fan fiction of someone who didn't do their homework.

​@@Rev_Goosewhat lore was changed and what characters are you referring to exactly?

​@@lordreiman8352i think hes talking about the fact that its said by cortana in infinite that the endless are the most dangerous in the universe to make them loook super powerful even though we have always been told the flood is the ultimate threat to the universe. And we were told that by forrunners but 343 retconned it. And for nothing

the Concert of Worlds is the new thing mentioned in HCS right?

@@toringmort4231 Yeah. And in Halo Outcasts too.

The crazy thing is, there’s a whole galaxy out there. The Halo we know, only takes place in the Orion Arm.

It's was ment to be part of the original halo 4 story that bungie would have made.

The games started on 04….it ends on 04….damn

@@RebelOfTheNorm242 The game started in a Cryo tube and Halo 3 ended the same way, its like a Story book

@@nickm5419 were you paying attention to the overarching story being told or.....?

going full circle

Thats how all bungie games work@@nickm5419

It is happening. Just before Infinite, after 5, Blue team is sent to reach to recover assets from Halsey's lab and end up working with terraformers (now the Reach militia) to fight a banished occupation force. (Halo: Shadows of Reach)

@Bryan-uw1ny not only that but in halo 5 we fight on a glassed planet that humanity is trying to reclaim.

what are you even talking about

"muh 343 bad"

@@Espartanica Oh don't worry, current day Bungie is as bad or worse. Either 343 or Bungie are bad news for the Halo francize

"Muh 343 bad"

​@@Espartanica Someone being called out for shitting their pants doesn't mean they DIDN'T shit their pants.

@@Robocopnik Someone being claimed to do it doesn't mean they did it. I'm sorry you hate Halo

It’s confirmed they are working on a new halo game so they will. Patience.

Did you miss the part of the title that says "theory"? It doesn't have to be correct, it's just for fun and speculation.

Theories require evidence.

@@PaulGuy the ship IS the evidence

@@SatanicBarbeque it’s more like a hypothesis. Regardless, theories are not exempt from counter arguments. This particular “theory” is a strange take and the narrative of the video suggests that all these things somehow MUST be reconciled. The entire basis is not rooted in any real logic.

@@rpwrtorwprthe only evidence is that humans are recolonizing reach, or someone is. That doesn’t mean there’s no more conflict and that humanity is at peace. It COULD mean that, but the video narrative insists these things must happen for this scene to take place.

I mean, a specific window where the series lives doesn't need to be an ending. If anything it prevents things from getting too wacky over time.

@@colbyboucher6391 it very well might not be. I'll still follow the series either way!

I was happy to ask! Haha. In honesty, though, I don’t want Halo to end, though. I want to continue to enjoy and play it for many years to come. But I do want this current set of storylines wrapped up. Something akin to the beginning of the 4th Age in Tolkien’s masterpiece of literature and creative works. The 3rd Age ends, “tying up” all seemingly loose ends from the age of Melkor, Sauron, and Sauron again. I want answers to the Janus Key, how Geas will further affect humanity, how the Endless will come to play out, the Created issue, how the Banished can be dealt with, and how the Flood will end. How will humanity fulfill the Precursor’s destination as upholders of the Mantle, etc. (Don’t forget Onyx, Alpha 9, and Kilo 5 folks)

Imagine if he takes his helmet off and it's the face of the chief from the TV series 💀💀💀💀

I’d prefer that he does that but the camera doesn’t show his face and we never see him die but it’s implied.

The flood get their way because they’re the creator(s) of the galaxy/universe, they’re an amalgamation of every living being in the galaxy including the literal gods they originally were. Now they’re a horrible eldritch demon god but a god all the same. at the peak of the flood/forerunner war the flood was infecting space and time, distorting it and manipulating it, opening up interdenominational gateways between solar systems and infecting entire worlds instantly, and not just the inhabitants but also the machines and plants, almost nothing was left to infect or corrupt by the end and the halo arrays were built in complete and utter secrecy where only a literal handful of forerunners even knew of their existence because too many knowing of them would run the risk of being them getting infected and inadvertently informing the keymind of their existence and purpose. And even The firing of the halo rings, the death of every living creature in the galaxy didn’t stop them, they cannot be killed so long as life exists, only delayed. Every instance of the flood we fight in the games is essentially it’s infant form that’s barely learned to crawl. And with the stupid “created” plotline created in halo 5 all of those fancy rebellious AI’s have essentially opened the flood gates (pun intended) by destroying any semblance of a unified force capable of combatting the flood, while also forgetting that they too are just food to it. Tl;dr Flood’s god and he’s too angry to die.

True. Good point bro

I’ve always wanted an excuse to see a Halo ring fired in the series. To me, they need to make the Flood stronger than ever, so much so, we have to activate a single Halo to stop the infection. It would be catastrophic, and make the stakes so much higher.

@@kbkilla360Yupp the end of halo to me should be it’s namesake fire 1 or 2 halo rings & exterminate almost everything. Maybe one or 2 human/alien colonies survive & just let them merge & rebuild from there.

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Same

Chief was born in 2511 so he would be 78 years old

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Haaaaaa. 😢

Unfortunately, iirc he was killed off in a comic book. I don’t think he’s able to come back at this point but I may be wrong.

@@GraydenFisher-pv9mkhe’s come back. He has a new book.

Agreed

why do you think halo is so controversial nowadays? the story was perfect when reach came out. the downfall of halo was making more games.

Someone at 343 Needs to watch his videos on Halo Infinite DLC What could have been he has great idea's he only has one more level to cover if things had been done the way he described Halo Infinite's campaign would have been a much better game.

@@trentrobertson5308honestly I think they should resume infinites campaign like in a novel and then make halo wars 3 and then make one last halo game which is halo 7 to end the series

The biggest problem with 343 right now is all they have to work on for an IP is Halo (they literally started their company because of this IP), frankly I really don't think Halo can go on forever (maybe Call of Duty possibly because of its multiplayer but because that is based more on realism, that is why it is more popular). At some point 343 needs to go the route of Bungie and move on the from the Halo IP and start creating a new IP, maybe its still Sci-Fi related that has loose connections to Halo. This way none of the baggage of Halo is carried over into a new IP, because its new (thats why all the older Halo fans hate the things 343 does now with the games, 343 would be in a much better state if they would be willing to try something new at some point. The biggest problem with sequels is that you can go on forever telling stories, never resolving anything completely and never let it rest. Really, I think killing off Chief, very few people are going to be OK with that but at the end of the day its a fictional franchise, either we have to try to like it or the company making the franchise, needs to end the franchise in some way shape or form. Another problem with continuing Halo forever is that you start getting away from what Halo started out as and it can eventually end up being something not looking like Halo anymore because of trying new things every single Halo game. That is why it would be best for 343 to move on from this franchise eventually and do something new to avoid this if possible.

@@Finger112 That doesn't really make sense: It is obvious that there is no story that “lives forever”, leaving aside video games, there are several projects and works in different media that show that even if they are popular, in the end they end, that is not a bad thing and most likely that pass with both COD and Halo. However, the idea that 343 should stop working on Halo is too silly, they are not an independent or purchased studio, the company was created by Microsoft to continue working on Halo, if that ends, in the best of cases, it will end in a whole mountain of arbitrariness, legal issues and complications to keep the games active, in addition to having difficulties to have constant activity in the market and/or the community involved, in the worst case, simply nothing guarantees that the franchise can remain active . Going to such an extreme just to have them "work on something else" would be a serious mistake. Also, what is this about killing the Master Chief? It is not necessary to end the Halo story with his death.

An rts spin off of his idea would be amazing

Basically star wars

I wish anybody in this comment section was at this point

You not paying attention is not their fault

Bruh

@@lofiseeker1790 what?

Turn yourself in to the authorities

?@@kbkilla360

I really would too in any scenario. But I really doubt 343 is thinking about any that in a campaign mode. Multi is all they care for.

The Forerunners were connected to the Domain without loosing thier physical forms though. Why would Chief have to sacrifice his form for his sacrifice? We still have no idea what the Librarian did to him during Halo 4 and we also need to see what going with the JANUS Key. Also Mendicant Bias and Offence Bias. Also Ababeen, the keeper of the domain and the physical embodiment of the Domain.

What were the species of the 05 ship

maybe the UNSC could somehow group up all the flood dust and chuck it into a nearby star?

Whats halo without master chief though?

@@rarrdy It would be the end of one story and the beginning of another. Ehile yes, you can't have Halo without Master Chief, you eventually HAVE to retire the actor and in turn, the character who made the franchise. Otherwise you end up beating a dead horse. There comes a point in time when real life HAS to be taken into account with regards to beloved characters such as Master Chief. If he IS to be kept alive after Downes retires, it's my personal opinion that he then be left silent if he is to remain a main character, much like the Rookie in ODST.