Is Aluminum Extrusion Worth The Money For Your Van Build?

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In this video we will walk you through our thoughts and experience using aluminum extrusion throughout our van conversion.
Although not the cheapest material around, without having to worry about mold/mildew or warped material, extrusion can be a great way to frame out those sections of your build that require high strength and precision.
If you’re in the market for extrusion a simple google search can send you in the right direction, but if you’d like to use our sources I’ll provide links below.
Before you go ordering anything though, you should come up with a rough estimate of the amount of material you’ll be needing by creating a basic blueprint of your van build. You can do it by hand using some graph paper or give something like SketchUp a go which is free for personal use.
SketchUp : www.sketchup.com/try-sketchup...
We sourced all of our material through a third party called Heitek who also helped us decide on the amount and type of material we needed by assisting on the structure of our layout.
Heitek : www.heitek.com/manufacturer/8...
Now this isn’t absolutely necessary if you already know what and how you plan on building with aluminum extrusion. If you want to save time and money you can order the product directly from a manufacturer like 80/20 or a distributor like Amazon. Amazon might have some 3rd party manufacturers of extrusion along with the hardware to assembling everything at a cheaper price. It is more cost effective to order full lengths at larger quantities and cut them down yourself.
In order to cut aluminum extrusion quickly and easily, you should get an aluminum cutting blade for your saw. Make sure to get the proper size blade for your saw. They also recommend having some WD-40 nearby if your blade starts to get hot. That way you can spray it and keep it from welding your pieces back together during the cutting process!
10 Inch Blade : amzn.to/3b2UriI
12 Inch Blade : amzn.to/3mItIui
Now when it comes to the assembly of the extrusion there are various bolts, brackets, and T-Nuts to choose from. You can purchase everything directly from 80/20 or you can find the majority of what you need on Amazon.
80/20 Extrusion Hardware : 8020.net/fasteningmethods/har...
80/20 Fasteners : 8020.net/fasteningmethods/ext...
Extrusion Hardware/Fasteners On Amazon : amzn.to/39nx82D
You might be able to save some money purchasing your bolts from McMaster-Carr.
McMaster-Carr Bolts : tinyurl.com/kkt6ux7p
You might also want to grab yourself a Rivnut tool kit in order to place strong mounting points within your van. That way you can connect directly to the vans body with your extrusion.
Rivnut Tool Kit : amzn.to/3QlSw8T
We also used a double sided foam tape for all the connections we made to the van body in order to prevent squeaks as well as create a small thermal barrier.
Double Sided Tape : amzn.to/3xQQ8Q8
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@libertine5606 Год назад

You should have used the 10 series. Less expensive more space and still crazy strong. If you have a Grainger close you can order from them and pick up without shipping, which is a huge part of the price. I would recommend doing one part at a time. Jumping in with both feet could be a expensive learning curve.

@GotMountains Год назад

Totally agree. 10 series is 1/3 the price and by the time it's all together it's bombproof. Still a great video though. Best I've seen so far on the pros and cons.

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Год назад

@@GotMountains What do you mean? It’s a video directing people to spend thousands of dollars more than they need to add hundreds of pounds of weight more than they need to and take up lots of space that’s precious in a van and you still think it’s the best one you’ve seen?

@GotMountains Год назад

The best I've seen on the use of 8020? Yep. Clear and concise. The only thing I'd change is from 15 to 10 series. I used it in my build and spent less than $600 and am a fraction of the weight of a wood build.

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Год назад

@@GotMountains I’ve been telling people for a year and a half in the comment section on George’s channel to use 10 series 8020 profile so you’re hardly the first person to say that

@GotMountains Год назад

@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath lol, thanks, I guess? Not sure why you feel the need to tell me I'm useless, but it's good advice I'll keep giving, even if you think you did it first. Kinda baffled you took the time to scold me...lol

@juanitasellshouses Год назад

Oh my. Wish I had known you were doing this, before you ordered anything. Hubby is a retired manufacturing engineer for the automotive industry. He's built hundreds of assembly lines with 80/20. Soo...we used series 10 (mostly) and some series 20. To bolt we drilled and tapped then put in 1/4 20 hex head bolts. We also used gussets in crucial areas. Our van is our daily driver, so everything had to be removable, if needed. (The van seats are stored in our garage!). We just went to Alaska this summer. Zero squeaks from our build. Incredibly strong. Hubby says 15 series is overkill. I would add a photo but not sure how.

@dogcatmanvan Год назад

Thanks for all the helpful info! I'm sure if we ever do another build we'll experiment with the series 10.

@ShellyShear 20 дней назад

I am building my van with 80/20! Is it possible to order?

@roannathephoenix8561 2 года назад

I was so excited to see you had a video up. Weird but it's like you two are my kids that I'm always happy to hear from and get updates from. You have such great vibes I can't help but smile when I see a notification.

@alexishoyt1632 Год назад

Thanks for letting us learn through your experience! Y'all broke it down really nicely and I appreciate the transparency on how much you spent. I can def see the advantages in some areas, while using lumber in others.

@carlytraxler 2 года назад

I've been going back and forth on aluminum vs. wood for my own build and I SO appreciate this! It was beyond helpful.

@muvybuf1 2 года назад

We used 1.5" 80/20 in all our van roof rack and inside framing. To surface the cabinets, we put white Formica on 1/4" plywood and put it in the groove or channel of the 80/20. That meant we had to put the brackets on the inside of the cabinets where they didn't interfer with 80/20 channel (if that makes sense). The white Formica cabinet faces have no screws in them at all. They just sit in the channel. I enjoy your videos and your explainations. Keep up the good work.

@SewingBoxDesigns 2 года назад

That's brilliant! Just slot the plywood in?

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

We'll have to check out this Formica stuff. Thanks for the sharing!

@muvybuf1 2 года назад

It is Formica brand laminate. It's called their "whiteboard" version. Glued with DAP Weldwood. It's considerable extra work to laminate your own plywood. But it looks good and you can use dry erase markers on it!

@billnalen 2 года назад

I did the same with my 80/20. Cabinets either have 1/4” plywood in slot or brackets holding the plywood in the frame opening. 80/20 sells a gasket for panels that holds the 1/4” ply so it doesn’t rattle. They also sell brackets that attach to the rail and then you can screw the plywood to the bracket so the panel floats in the opening.

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Год назад

“Probably spent too much money” understatement of the year. This is a perfect example of why you should always read the comments on the video

@ethanandmiastuberuiz3756 2 года назад

Dude your intros are everything keep it up you 2!!!

@phennexion 2 года назад

This video is amazing!! So gooooooooood. Answered so many questions for when I start my build. Keep up the great work guys :)

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

Glad it helped!

@jimduffy9773 2 года назад

A good presentation and valid details! I recently saw a video from an RV company that was removing all the wood they could from their designs. The reasoning was that, (in his opinion), every time they investigated a moldy smell, it was related to the wood and the humidity in RVs. They didn't go into a lot detail on what product they were going to use, they referred to it as a marine grade product. That could mean plastic or fiberglass.

@handlebullshit Год назад

The moisture is your problem, not the wood.

@Grouch3682 2 года назад

Thanks for filming this. I’ve been planning to build out the bed in a similar format but wasn’t too sure about the materials. I knew I wanted metal though

@bchurchill3551 2 года назад

Once again, amazing intro! Hope to see more of that creativity in the future.

@BlueWonderLady Год назад

Great video! I appreciate your thoroughness in explaining the process and pros and cons. For me personally, I am going with purebond formaldehyde free wood. But it seems that extrusion could come in handy for certain aspects of a build, just not a must have.

@kristinasupermom 2 года назад

Great video. I liked hearing the pros and cons to it. Magnets are an interesting idea.

@cheryltaylortaylor Год назад

Great video explaining your process. And combining your video with some of the comments given, a great informative tool for someone exploring the 80 20 option. Well done.

@dogcatmanvan Год назад

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it

@susantosi695 2 года назад

Smart, adorable, fun, good content…You two are perfect.

@justdiane9631 2 года назад

Completely agree.

@dakotahusted2003 Год назад

This has been really helpful in my decision, thank you!

@-ellimist- 6 месяцев назад

Great video in terms of talking about pros and cons, and really highlights that the initial design is extremely important as well as not going "whole hog" when working with a new building material so as to adapt the design as you learn more about what works and what doesn't. Invaluable lessons learned that come out of this are to order stuff for just a portion of the project and see how it goes so future portions can benefit from perhaps ordering different series or components of 8020 that are better suited (e.g., different linkages/connectors, different series/sizes of 8020).

@girlpowered1696 5 месяцев назад

Yeah and also they should’ve ordered everything precut, since they did already have the measurements

@bonnierodger7719 Год назад

Thank you both so much. I have less fear about my build. I bought a 2014 used 170 Sprinter…talk about black mold! So, we completely gutted the van and we are starting over with 80/20.

@iojwefjoawjfh34 4 дня назад

This dude exudes Andy from parks and rec vibes. It's awesome.

@thomasquigley7040 Год назад

I've seen nice paneling setups with inset 3/4" marine grade ply and some 2-holed flat brackets on the inside. One hole with a screw into the wood and one into a T nut. The finished wood looks good when it's finished and is framed by the aluminum with a bit of a shadow gap. They used 3 sided extrusion with one smooth side facing out, or 2 sided extrusion on corners with 2 nice smooth sides. You gotta be willing to see the extrusion though. if not, you're adding more thickness to your build to hide the aluminum with your paneling.

@DerrynEHahn-ir2jv 2 года назад

You still managed to make me smile! I built my greenhouse out of that aluminium, very fiddle with the nuts and bolts❤️✨

@justdiane9631 2 года назад

So glad to see you two this morning! I'm going to share a thought I keep having about you two and it's def a bit off topic and quite uncalled for BUT.... if you two reproduce, your kids are bound to be absolutely adorable and most likely quite brilliant. Just my thought as I creep into my grandma age. Thanks for all the info you give us. I was on the fence about using wood or aluminum and now I think I will pick and choose areas to use each type. Stay well. See you on the next one.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

Thanks Diane, we still have to figure out how to make money before we make a kid haha, but glad to hear you think we'd be able to bring a cool little person into the world!

@Mike-iq4kv 4 месяца назад

This was super helpful!!

@outlaw7x77 Год назад

I am currently building my 170 Sprinter...I went through choosing materials 80/20 vs wood...I chose wood. Mostly because I know wood and the COST of 80/20. 80/20 I think gives that modern look. But hey...I'm 60 yrs old so... I used E-Track system to mount my bed...very solid and very easily removable. It cost about $200 including brackets and I bought some nice utility bags that for now are working out great for storage. I don't live in my van but I do use it for hauling a lot if different stuff. Right now we're heading out for the weekend to do some carpentry and have lumber and tools packed under the bed...plus a dog...I have kept mine simple for the utility of multi uses. I really admire your choices and honesty and your channel. So many RU-vid van channels...so few good ones...lol...yours is GOOD!

@waynec2962 2 года назад

thanks for the info! I think when it's time to build my van I will only use extrusion for the bed lol and use the van floor to hold my batteries and water tanks. great video!

@Frenchcrop 2 года назад

I’m just about to start my own little extrusion project myself. Here in the UK we have a company that supply their own version of 8020, and for a very small extra charge, supply it pre-cut to the millimetre. This adds a few percent to the overall cost, but as long as you have it properly planned, piss poor performance - prevented. I agree the facing problem, is a, well, problem, which limits its application; and this stuff can’t just be thrown at a build out. But for my money (and skill level) this stuff is preferable over wood wherever possible. Liking the vids, keep em coming!

@caseyjryan 2 года назад

I agree with your conclusion of using a mix of 8020 and wood based on application. I’m in the middle of my buildout and the cabinet facing has been the most challenging especially since I don’t want to SEE the 8020 frame. Good job on the overview.

@caseyjryan 2 года назад

Oh! For those looking for cheap brackets and nuts, I’ve gotten everything from tnutz.com out of New York. Cheapest prices I’ve found anywhere and the quality is great. Good customer service and fast shipping as well. I don’t work for them, I’m just a happy customer.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

Thanks Casey, we'll have to source our products from them next time

@potpie3930 2 года назад

Yay more content!

@erialettchill 2 месяца назад

Very helpful input thanks for biting the bullet for us 🎉

@bchurchill3551 2 года назад

I think you’re ‘finding your groove’ with the vanbuild series. But I’m most looking forward to you guys HITTING THE ROAD series when the build is all done!

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

We're looking forward to that as well!

@PlatinumRatio 2 месяца назад

Good job.Thx for the lesson.

@conandal Год назад

I subscribed solely because you shredded that rail like a boss 😎.

@bchurchill3551 2 года назад

Viewing that video was an emotional rollercoaster for me! I thought you were going to make a total mess out of it, but eventually you pulled it off. Well, until the magnets fail.

@lsilva1544 2 года назад

Love your vids.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

Thanks for watching it!

@tom_olofsson 4 месяца назад

Thank you very much. You have saved me a big bunch of cash.😊

@AdrianSinner97 Год назад

great vid to learn from, great guys. KUDOS

@patrickkeegan7535 Год назад

Your presentation was awesome!

@themikeporter Год назад

I feel your pain. I used 8020 for everything in my van including a raised floor in the garage section. I laughed all the way through your video. :)

@dennisdoerr Год назад

I used screws and t-nuts to attach panels to the 80/20. Thats the cool thing about the 80/20, you can attach everything to that slot. If i didnt want the screws showing in the front of the panel i used screw nuts on the back of the panel and brackets.

@deutscheklassiker5677 7 месяцев назад

Great video, thanks for sharing

@chrisschnelle6171 2 года назад

Have you thought of using a fastner in reverse? ( Have the bolt head in the extrusion and a cap head nut or security nut on the outside) the other option is to have a moveable “bolt sleeve” in the track and have a screw go into that.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I'll have to check and see what a bolt sleeve is, but I have thought about placing a fastener in reverse.

@billnalen 2 года назад

You can use 5/16” carriage bolts. They fit perfectly. I pair them with nylon insert lock nuts. Attached most of my 80/20 to the frame this way. Ken from OurKaravan used them this way to put on all his corners.

@livingthedreambuildingthedream Месяц назад

Thank you guys I do believe it’s worth the extra cost.

@rbuchowski1 2 года назад

Have you looked in to drilling and tapping screws in the 8020. Would allow you to remove any panels attached to them with very little fuss and will be as good as a permit attachment.

@jimduffy9773 2 года назад

I would think your idea would save a lot of money. I would think that 8020 would shine where you need to "remodel" or "repurpose". Adding tie downs for stuff. The stuff may be different over time, and floorplans can change. But what's one more hole in the bar?

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

My only issue with that is seeing screw heads on the finish. My goal is to keep the face free of visible fasteners, but maybe I could suck it up and let it slide on the removable panels!

@TraverseTruck Год назад

Cool video. Thanks

@jamescoler866 Год назад

This helped me make up my mind. Some aluminum like the bed is good but I am going with wood in most of the cabinetry.

@dogcatmanvan Год назад

Glad we could help! Thanks for watching

@dallenrussell 2 года назад

With some of the pre made bed designs being $2000+, although you had a significant amount of time invested, I think the aluminum is a great investment 👍

@DaveGme Год назад

Great content.

@h.b.4058 2 года назад

Excited to see you using extrusion. Have you seen Thomas Heaton's van build from about a year or so ago? He shows how he made panels work and hinged cabinets, etc.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I haven't, I'll check him out!

@Swimdeep 2 года назад

I’m torn. I adore you both for the deep dive into the specs/costs/comparison to other build materials and the high tech approach. My “issue” is that my personal ethos is to recycle/repurpose/upcycle virtually all my materials. Extrusion is innovative and practical in many ways, but obviously expensive in multiple ways. I used some aluminum from abandoned furniture for my build. Anyway, your passion and cuteness are always appreciated and good to watch. Keep on keeping on guys.🌿🌀💗🐾

@NomaddUK 2 года назад

Love your nickname. :0)

@MaximC 2 года назад

Great job.

@pierrez8019 Год назад

Hi! Great video I was happy to watch, since I was considering using aluminium extrusion too.... Did you also compare the weight of both solutions? Greetings from France, Pierre

@ifell3 Год назад

Wow, the cost! Got me subbed. Also be careful you are not creating a heat bridge from the outside to the inside, or vice versa.

@kiddkai Год назад

great content！

@NomaddUK 2 года назад

I don't know if you are aware but aluminium is not a ferrous metal so magnets will not attach to it. You would need to mount a steel plate on the aluminium strip where the magnet would attach. This is perfectly feasible and a great idea for easy to detach panels. I have used aluminium extrusion quite a lot to make 3D printers and it is great but I would never be able to afford building my van from it. I would love to though. Well done both of you. It looks great.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

Yeah I guess we didn't do a good job at explaining our thought on the magnets, but the idea was to glue a little block of wood with a magnet countersunk within it. Using a metal bracket or steel plate with a magnet attached might also be an option we experiment with.

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Год назад

I buy tons of very very very high-end, like-new, used kitchen and bathroom cabinets that have been donated to nonprofits and re-purposed them in my van conversion builds and out of dozens of cabinets that I have bought only one was ever put together with those awful finish torx screws and it was a disaster and pain in the but* trying to take apart and remove the parts of the cabinet I did not want. I’m not surprised you chose that option but for a professional cabinet builder to choose that option was mind-boggling to me.

@Galluchh 2 года назад

Neodymium magnets are the kind of magnets you're looking for, they are extremely strong, great vid;

@preskma 2 года назад

Yes, this. They are also known as rare earth magnets. I used some in my build for the same purpose you want to. You can find them at big Orange or big Blue.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I'll make sure to snag those. Thanks!

@therugglet 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing a real-world build with 80/20, everyone praises it but I think your video brings to light its shortcomings. Taking 3" from your center aisle just for 80/20 is a big drawback. Waiting on supplies and making wrong cuts is bound to happen, with wood one can run to the HD or Lowes and get another. I wonder how many people are taking apart their vans after building with aluminum? Using 90-degree brackets with wood, screws, and marine adhesive. One could build that module 6x before touching the cost of the aluminum.

@Yakkaus 2 года назад

Nice vid guys.

@Sustainavore 7 месяцев назад

Very helpful. We're going to redo our van and probably will just use extruded aluminum for the bedframe. Do you guys happen to have your sketchup plans anywhere?

@googooboyy 2 месяца назад

Really awesome work! Quick question cos I might have missed what was the glue used to adhere the wood to the frames? looks some kind of foamy thingy..

@drewhodge3820 2 года назад

Thanks for the honest and very informative review. Can I ask the weight difference between the aluminum and the same size in timber?

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I never weighed the two, but I think there are comparison videos out there. It's not that much different.

@svensshed1564 Год назад

Love the blue cattle dog mate. Great dogs if you love the outdoors

@lostman65 Год назад

this is almost exactly what i was imagining. i avoided extruded aluminum for a while now. mostly because of cost. then i started using it for small things realized i was going to be way over my head.

@billnalen 2 года назад

Tnutz has all the fasteners and brackets at much cheaper prices. Also you can drill holes in the 80/20 and tap the hole. Then you can bolt your panels on and they are removable. Seven O Savage uses this method. I’ve seen too many videos of van cabinets coming apart on bumpy roads to not use 80/20.

@LarryStewart1 2 месяца назад

Great topic and coverage! I just convinced myself to build my bed with extrusions. Do you think that van-width span requires 15 Series, or would 10 Series do the job?

@Bart-ye6ze 7 месяцев назад

hy - greets from austria - i love your project and your live style 🤙 2 questions, between the wool and the inner surface you installet a vapor shield? and how you transport the moisture, especially over night out of the van? thanks and nice greetings Georg

@maxwood192 Год назад

If you use aluminum framing you should try and incorporate it into the overall look of the design. The look should be aluminum and plywood, not aluminum with plywood hiding the aluminum. Leave all internal spaces open to allow for ventilation and access. All plywood should be fastened to the aluminum so it can be removed easily, this makes repairs to services and electrical gear easier. I think aluminum framing is a better product than wood to use in a van build. It costs more and you have to think harder about what you are doing. Unfortunately there is a big learning curve using this product, personally I think the end result is better. You guys have done a great job and if you did another van tomorrow you would do some things different.

@eddieknight8392 Год назад

and this my friends is how you make a van build AS EXPENSIVE AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN and guaranty THAT YOU WILL NEVER RECOVER HALF OF WHAT YOUR BUILD COSTS....

@bchurchill3551 2 года назад

Last comment for the RU-vids algorithm.

@shiftymedia619able 2 года назад

Kick ass Seabass you gotta start putting some more skate moves on your videos really looking forward to more videos bem keep it up

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I might just do that!

@Panthineguardian 2 года назад

Just a quick non sober thought after seeing your snapped off screw.. Can you either glue (or cut the head off a partially installed screw) sticking out from the extrusion to make a sharp pin, and then place the wooden Plate against this "pin" and hammer it in? like a revers staple idea.. Love the design and your veracity when it came to your aluminium experiences.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

That's an interesting thought. We might have to try it out

@ibrahimkocaalioglu 10 месяцев назад

I am a fan of extruded Al. I build a big kinetic art stage usinh that.

@Richard-Freeman 10 месяцев назад

So glad I can weld aluminum.

@MaximC 2 года назад

You guys could consider installing a HRV, which automatically circulates the air inside but also doesn't lose the heat, Lunos E2.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I'll check it out

@statusqo1 Год назад

GUYS ! i know its late but , old BIg hard drive magnets are insanely strong and dirt cheap , you can find them by the hundreds in electronic recycling centers . its time consuming to disassemble but once you get the hang of it its pretty streamline !

@chaosplan 2 года назад

Hey are those water filter canisters in the low cabinet at 19:00 ? Just a tip if you ever want to replace the filter cartridge you are going to spill all the water when you unscrew them. They should be mounted upright so you can unscrew them and not spill the water. Great build and love following along!

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

They are filters and it was the only way we were going to be able to fit it underneath our bench seat so we will have to place a catch pan underneath the filters when we replace them.

@qminke4256 2 года назад

That skateboarding content was nice bro you got some killer moves!

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I’m a bit rusty, but I’ve still got a bag of stuff I can whip out haha

@denisecafferky2248 2 года назад

Very nice

@turnpike420 Год назад

I believe only 1 other person mentioned “panel mounts”. 8020 makes this part for exactly what it sounds like. I was also curious why you glued panels on the inside of your 8020 skeleton? Once you face everything nicely you won’t see that and if it is open behind the 8020, you get airflow and access to fix anything. Glad you’re having fun with your build!

@turnpike420 Год назад

You might also check your comments for mark pope who has spammed your comments with a lot of negativity. Feel free to delete this one too.

@johnw6908 Год назад

@@turnpike420 If they delete his comments then no one will be able to find and watch all the amazing and perfectly edited 8020 build videos he has on his channel...............

@dogcatmanvan Год назад

I'll have to look up these panel mounts. Also, we wanted everything to be covered which is why we glued the insides as well. It's definitely overkill.

@dogcatmanvan Год назад

That's right. People need to get the proper info from him!

@turnpike420 Год назад

@@dogcatmanvan check out the channel Humble Road if you haven’t seen it. Lots of good ideas happening there.

@cheryltaylortaylor Год назад

It is a little late but the channel Humble Road may be a good channel for you to check out if you build something else with 80 20. He builds vans and uses 80 20 throughout the entire van. Could be a good source of information for you for anything in the future. Have fun with your van!

@dogcatmanvan Год назад

You're absolutely right; we even reached out to him on one occasional for his opinion. Thanks for the recommendation

@mytwogoodhands2799 3 месяца назад

Liked the video, maybe use size 10 as it is very strong

@glengarbera7367 Год назад

I work with this product in trade shows, in a van build shouldn't you use some type of insulation on brackets for van wall to prevent thermal bridging?

@AshleyOliviaDaCosta Год назад

Thank you for saving us thousands of dollars. We will use it more strategically.

@richwhetton 9 месяцев назад

Not tried this but suggestion for the attaching the panels - use an L bracket bolted into the extrusion and then put a rivnut into the other hole - drill a hole in the wood and you should then be able to bolt into the rivnut?

@tombouie 8 месяцев назад

Thks PS: ??Hows-abouts compared to good-old-fashioned square aluminum tube & associated fittings and blazing them together??

@mvorn44 Год назад

You could have used 10 series in a lot of areas instead of the 15.

@philltwose4088 2 года назад

Not trying to annoy anyone, but I would use the T-Nuts with the springs on and counter sink some shallow Allen bolts to fix the panels that required removability, or use those locks you get on slot machines/electric cabinets and have a slot along the bottom to drop your ply into and a lock either top centre or either side, i know I know I’ll get my coat 🙃 good metal working dad!!!!!

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

That's not a bad idea

@philltwose4088 2 года назад

What! Me a good idea? Somebody inform the UN, it’s one of the harbingers of the apocalypse 🙃, oh the humanity😩😩😩😩

@william4332 9 месяцев назад

Should have used Robotunits Extrusion. They will cut it and send a drawing detailing where everything goes. Also a reduction time for assembly

@277kne 2 года назад

What about metal studs? Do they come in 2x3 size? Pleasure Way has a few videos and clips in their van tours that show the building process. They use plywood attached with angle brackets. Their wet bath and refrigerator cabinets are all plywood. The plywood I believe is cabinet plywood that could be prefinished on 1 side. My final thoughts are light weight plywood that is stable is good. Apple ply, birch or bamboo. Should always finish it and don't leave un treated or un finished wood.

@madmouse7915 10 месяцев назад

The advantage to the extrusion is a built in track, you guys missed so many things you could have purposed it for and saved even more space and maybe even some money, but hey 🤷‍♂️we all see and do things different, it was still a cool video thanks for sharing 👍. And now I know it's strong enough for some tricks too, so auntie Judy can stop yelling at her son "you're gonna break that and cry when you gotta pay for it!" 🤣 ✌️🤙

@lamonjadelosandes6578 Год назад

after watching I will say that for the bed frame and the garage i like the 8020 but 2x2 wood for the rest.

@chrisdaniel1339 Год назад

Your comparison of extruded Al to the same size piece of Fir from the depot is apples to oranges. You could have used the smaller series 10 extruded aluminum vs wood and it still would be significantly stronger structure than wood. Is 80/20 more expensive absolutely, but there is no comparison to wood lumber. Your structure is massively overbuilt for what you were constructing, remember weight is the enemy of van builds. My father did two van builds back in the 80' and the bed frame was built from 1"x3"(0.75"x2.5") poplar boards to frame the bed platform and then 1/2" plywood on top and it held 2 full size adults and 2 kids and it was rock solid. Series 10 would have been more than strong enough for 95% of your framing, I might go with 1020 to act similar to an I beam for the stringers for the bed but I would run them from the cleat on the pax side to the cleat on the drivers side not front to back. I am excited to see the complete build.

@docimma Год назад

How do you stop squeaks/rattles over time as vans are moving vehicles and there will be slow bolt loosening over time right? What project will you use the extrusion for now? I am sure it will be useful for something cool.

@dogcatmanvan Год назад

We haven't experienced any bolt loosening yet, but I suppose you can semi thread lock everything. We don't have a whole lot of extrusion left over so I'm not sure when the next time we'll be using it.

@TedHolmwood 2 года назад

TNutz is a really great affordable alternative to 8020 products. They're identical and save you a lot of money on extrusion, brackets, and fasteners.

@TedHolmwood 2 года назад

I'd also highly recommend the 1inch 1010 profile of extrusion. It's really strong for its size and can cut down costs in areas that don't necessarily need 2" framing.

@dogcatmanvan 2 года назад

I'll keep this in mind the next time around

@michaelcummings7246 Год назад

Just for future reference 15 series was way overkill for what u needed considering u could probably lift ur whole van with a crane by just running a couple of them under the frame to hook to. 10 series (1") or 20 series (20mm ie ~.75") is more than enough for 90% of anything u might need. Using double width like I saw in ur bed frame should take care of the other 10%. If u look at the price on each series it basically goes up by the weight aluminum per inch so best to use smaller as long as u keep needed safety margins. Remember aluminum is 3x stronger by weight than steel especially if the load is in compression.

@deangiacopassi1951 Год назад

Try facing the extrusions with velcro. It is used in high end limited production cars.

@AZRockRunner 2 месяца назад

I used 2020 series (20mm) and it is plenty strong. It's the cheapest, lightest and most available. The square bracket is less than a dollar.

@gnarlybadger690 Год назад

Great information, and excellently presented will definitely think about aluminium extrusion for the bed frame in our van. Thanks for sharing, I appreciate your time and effort in making this video 🤘🏻

@ShellyShear 20 дней назад

Did you use this for your upper cabinets as well?

@grazynakaledek6228 Год назад

Hey guys thanks for taking the Time to share your Video and thoughts! Using the 1.5" 80/20 Extrusion you can use 5/16" Carriage Bolts that work great with Lock Nuts. Also 1/4" ABS Board in different colors; slide in the groove of the 80/20 & is much lighter than the 3/4 Plywood Board. You can also use these 1/4" ABS Boards as Sliding Cabinet Doors on the 80/20. It was nice that your dad made the Angle Brackets for you. That's what I am doing with 1/4" x 2" aluminum angle iron. Yes. the 80/20 is expensive however it is easier to work with if you are not an experienced wood worker. The 80/20 finish makes it look Professional & it's easier to modify, dismantle & is reusable. Cheer & Good Luck with your Build from Toronto, Canada.

@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Год назад

You’ve all probably been watching too many videos made by a retired watch photographer instead of by someone who actually knows something about structural engineering. I finally hounded said photographer into using 10 series and naturally he never gave me any credit or even alluded to me.