Right like sir you're a grown adult why are you getting depressed about teenagers love life? Focus on finding someone or keep selling Icre cream. He's such a weirdo.
Honestly, I just find it infuriating that Adrien had found out that Marinette has been in love with him this whole time because of André. It's just ridiculous
Imagine getting married, going to Paris on your honey moon and some grown ass man child tells you that you and your wife shouldn’t be together and then gives you ice cream you don’t even want
Yes. Andre is a toxic shipper. He's been akumatized four times just because he can't except that his otp isn't canon. I get it. Many of my favorite ships aren't canon but I don't get mad about it. And those are fictional characters. Andre gets mad because his real life otp isn't real. He should have stayed at his boring office job.
Marigami, Zoenette and Lukanette shippers deal with having non canon ships just fine but this dude gets mad when Adrienette is doing their usual shenanigans
Finally someone talks about this. He has gotten akumatized all because the teenagers he shipped didn't like each other in and out of their suits, he's really annoying and I couldn't stand him for so long
Dude is such a creep. Imagine, u and ur best friend r out getting ice cream and then this middle aged ice cream vendor starts insisting u two r made for each other despite the fact u already have a partner. U and ur friend r creeped out but shrug it off, getting ur ice cream. Only for u to go into anaphylactic shock since Andre thought u were a “nut person” because ur friend had hazel eyes. Don’t tell me this hasn’t happened! This is a probable situation (if it hasn’t happened yet it would eventually)- hell for all we know he’s moving his ice cream stand so often to escape being served law suits (on top of not getting fined for not having a permit)
No surprise that Andre's creepy behaviour isn't even seen as a problem in the show. He gets all uppity when the episode needs a villain but in the season 3 finale he had no qualms about serving Marinette and Adrien while they were blatantly in separate relationships. Not just that but one episode before, Marinette was the one to decide the ice cream should be the Adrigami pairing and Andre's reaction was comparatively tame, asking Marinette if she was sure and going along with it when she doubled down. Y'know, staying in his lane. If his behaviour was consistent then at the very least you could argue it was intentional. Instead he becomes another example of the wonky writing.
I do agree that was a bit ooc for Andre, but I will say that in that moment, he was working with three people when he normally deals in pairs. He said that too many flavors would throw everything off. To solve the problem, he gave three different pairings for them to choose between.
I still don't like lukanette and adrgmi but at least Luka and kagmi are good characters they were worse than hitler to me back then so sorry for judging them plus I prefer marinette with Luka over marinette with Kim and Adrian with kagmi over Adrian with Lila and chole
That's because Andre ships ladynoir, not adrinette. Okay, in first episode it wasn't about ladynoir but it also wasn't about adrinettte just about the fact that Marinette said his ice cream aren't magical. In other two episodes it was about Marinette getting in the way of ladynoir. He only cares about adrinette as a way for Marinette to not get in the way of ladynoir
I don't mind Andres gimmick, but hate his personality: His gimmick is just like a treasure hunt to find him with him trying to find a flavour that you'd think you'd like. Seems like a fun thing to do as a couple while traveling together. I'm pretty sure stuff like this already exists irl. The problem with Andre is, like you mentioned, his personality. He takes his shipping with his ice cream way too seriously and gets too upset when it "fails". Just give them their ice cream and be done with it.
it'd be fun if he did a guessing game with them and does "aww darn it! got it wrong! well here's the flavor you wanted anyway!" if he doesn't get the flavor combo they wanted right
He acts like once the couple dates mean they forever stay with each other. A pathetic lonely man-child thinks that couples breaking up, divorces don't exist. Yeah, it sounds harsh but that show how much he annoys me if he suddenly ships me with a random stranger when I have no interest in relationships.
@@lenastorm6280 Fr 😭 He thinks 14-15 years old children have experience enough to know who is a "destined" partner and stick with them forever in the first time dating. That shit sounds crazy!
I think "sweetheart's ice-cream" should be a special in his menu so ppl can ask for it if they want or just go for any regular flavor they feel like eating.
I can understand Andre wants to give ice cream to people, especially couples, so they can have an excellent time and enjoy their date/day. However, Andre reminds me of those toxic shippers you see in fandoms in general, and he also crosses boundaries/lines a lot. Look at why he's been akumatized. While Marinette was a little rude to Andre in Glaciator, Andre wasn't helping her as he forced her to have his ice cream; you can tell Marinette wasn't in the mood for one and gets all upset when it's suddenly not "magical" anymore like 😑😑😑. Then again, in Glaciator 2, he gets akumatize twice because one Ladybug is telling everyone in Paris how Chat Noir and her are not a couple, but people won't listen. Andre rants about how cute they are as a couple, not respecting what Ladybug is saying and how his ice cream is never wrong. Then, later in the episode, he gets akumatize again when he sees Marinette and Chat Noir hanging out and automatically assumes they're on a date and his ice cream "magic" is gone 😑😑😑. In Exaltation, Andre straight up tells Marinette and Chat Noir who they are supposed to love and who they love, which honestly doesn't surprise me because I have met people like that, and it does happen a lot in real life and not give them ice cream as "magic" ice cream is for couples only which is hypocritical. Then, when he gets akumatize, Andre targets Marinette, saying how it's her fault, like excuse me, and forces Chat Noir and Ladybug to be a couple by renouncing their miraculous. So Andre needs a reality check soon. Also, I'm surprised you haven't done a video on Damocles, as he sucks as a principal.
Andre is such a creep, I mean imagine being Marinette or Adriens parents and knowing some 60 yo man who sells ice cream keeps shipping your child with another child and gets mad when they don’t get together
I mean the reason mari puts weight I Andre's icecream is because her parents are a pair wjo git his icecream before so I want to believe they'd be on edge about it...but it might go over their heads that it's weird.
In the first episode I did like Andre because overall his character was more trying to help his customers be optimistic, even if his attempt to perk up Marinette did backfire. Then when talking to Adrien it ended on a positive note “you just gotta believe.” But in the following Glaciator episodes I find him immature and unlikable because it went from him having a cutesy ice cream gimmick to him becoming Andre the gatekeeper which is dumb. You can’t go around telling people who they should and shouldn’t be with. That’s not an ice cream man’s job that’s a matchmaker’s job (watch the show Indian Matchmaker explains it well). That’s false advertising.
@@Sproutgoodnight1161 the funniest thing is, I didn’t even plan on it, this just happened and I was like “nah I need to tell the crazy thing that just happened while watching this.”
Andre needs to chill out. The teenagers he's shipping together should make their own choices and not be dictated on who they should be with. Get your act together dude. Seriously.
This reminds me of an article I saw abt illegal food vendors in Paris and that they hide their ingredients in the sewers and that just solidifies my irrational hate for this man
Eeeeeewwwwwwww!!!!!!! Noooooo. That’s disgusting! I know Gabriel ended the world twice, but that’s where I draw the line with any character. Andre is the worst.
(a boy and a girl went to Audre ice cream card To get each other a treat.) Andre:Here we go. You two love birds.(giving away two ice cream) girl:I'm sorry, but we not in love. Andre:Why not?both of you compliment each other. It was meant to be~ Boy:Because we're sibling. Andre:😳 edit:Just imagine how many time Andre mistaken sibling as couples
I wrote a fanfic in which Andre was stupid enough to make a deal with a demon 😒 I wouldn't doubt that the actual guy would be tempted to do so just to make his ship canon 😂
I actually thought Andre was funny, but you're right, his obsession with shipping teenagers would be very creepy in real life. And having him turn out to not even have a permit for his cart is just a terrible message for kids.
he cries and gets akumatized because he realized his ice cream isn’t magical DID I MENTION HES A FULL GROWN ADULT CRYING BECAUSE OF ICE CREAM YEAH YOU HEARD ME ICEEEE CREAMMMMMM
the scary thing is, people like andre do exist and they are horrible people. i am surprised there is no character in the show whom ends up saying "yeah, no, i am not going near that creepy old man whom thinks he is magic and is the greatest thing slice bread. he takes credit for couples falling in love and such, but gets upset when they aren't together or don't even like each other. dude needs therapy." or some person going up to get ice cream and then rejecting because it would kill them. like if i was there, he doesn't even wash his scoop, so if he touched mint with it an any time without washing it, i am gonna be sent to a hospital. dude is a danger. at this rate they are going to introduce a villain next season whom is gonna be the most reasonable person in the whole show. they are seen as a villain for just shooting down the toxic and dangerous behaviors or discussing wanting to leave town because it is dangerous.
I think what's worst is how inconsistant he is. Tge first time ge appeared I get why he got upset because he tried to cheer mari up with icecream and she got upset it didn't magically materialise the guy she wanted. And he did actually force his poor before as he gave options when mari adrien and kagami came for icecream. And he gave mari a self love icecream before. So while he sucked at times...like not giving in to the option of mari asking if they could have all the flavors...he at least never said outsold who the icecream represented. And he looked like he at least was scolded and understood when his shipping when to fair(even if he shouldn't have been that bad in thevfirstbplace). But somehow they have him learn his lesson one episide they have him double down with the same issue a different episode? For one why can't he see mari and chat as a potential match if they are the same people? Two why was he so insistsntbon chat's match beingnladybhg and mari'd being adrien? He had never said who his icecreams represented before and had given they different flavor options before? Why the hell is he suddenly using names when he uses to only say the flavors might represent hair, lip eye color or personality? It makes no sense! Even by comparing how he had been written before!?
No one is talking about how Andre doesn’t match the art style of the show either. His proportions are SO weird. Matches his weirdness of being obsessed with other people’s relationships.
What I'd like to know is if Andre's ego is so fragile as to break down in tears whenever someone rejects his ice cream, how has he stayed in business for this long?
Realistically speaking hawkmoth is by far the worse but Andre being so obsessed with highschoolers he barely knows and activily tries to prevent other couples from happening is creepy.( well forever be mad over adrigaminette not being a thing)
Andre: Oreo with extra cream suits you the most Someone: I’m lactose intolerant and I can’t have Oreos because they have ingredients in them that are against my religion Andre: idc lol
I hate him with a PASSION. He was fine in the furst episode but he's inconsistant in others...like he seemed fine making ice cream pairs for mari, adrien and kagami but when mari asked if she could get all three flavors he said threes a crowd...not reading the room that they wanted a friendship icecream which put mari to put pressure on which icecream she chose. His power of icecream inside makes no sense when he can't see mari and chat as a pair even though they are literally the SAME PEOPLE. He gave mari a self love ice-cream at a different time which showed he wasn't a dick. And yet despite learning his lesson about getting too into his ships after misreading mari and chat going to the movies he got judge again when they actually showed for a date...but what makes me absolutely livid is the guy made a point of not saying names.the ice-cream flavor is suppoused to represent hair of favorite colors, eye Color, lip color, personality ect. Where YOU the receiver of the ice-cream can read into it if you want to....yet all of a sudden he says point blank mari"s ice-cream represents adrien and chat noir's ice-cream represents ladybug to their faces and THAT is how adrien is suppoused to officially find out mari had. Crush on adrien? Not from his friends who see adrifnbstruggling with mari's mixed signals? Not from mari finally getting the courage to come clean on her own? Not from iver hearing her accidentally? It was fucking andre the ice-cream man pushing ships that he already had reason to think were dead in tge water and him out of character for himself being clear on who his ice-cream represents instead of lettingbthe customers mull it over themselves? My RAGE METER was broken. Not only did it erase there being consequences from mari not being honest with herself and take away the build up of adrien finding out mari likes himnonky once ste tells him herself...but it was out of character for andre who had already learned his lesson and was scolded about pushing his ships and was weird when he seemed fine giving options for ice-cream at other times...but he said their names which he had never done before...and how am I suppoused to take him seriously if ge can't see the marichat chemistry when they are the same exact people? Do the miraculous powers get in the way of his soulmate vision?
After seeing a lot of 'imagine' comment, I can't believe I didn't stumble upon one like this: Imagine being an aroace and try to get an ice cream but this man refuses saying you can't get one because you don't have a partner and ships you with some rando. Also, I like how Smarty Pants changed his outro a little for this. He's like yeah it's subjective you can like him if you want but WHY WOULD YOU EVER LIKE SUCH A CREEP?!
Hey, I started wondering, what if someone is aroace? So what kind of ice cream will he give this person? I know, a slightly strange question, but seriously, what would make ice cream in this situation? This person has no crush and the ice cream looks like someone else's crush, so how would Andre handle this strange situation?
honestly i think he will just get mad a them for idk not feeling enough love for his ice cream's liking i guess it will probably lead to him getting akumatized
@@clarisacalderon9555 he got twice akumatized cuz chat and mari hanged out and refused to serve ice cream to them its either you have a crush or no ice cream
You know, he seemed like a genuinely sweet character at first until he just got plain annoying. Like stop being SO obsessed with the same teenager’s love life! You’re a grown freakin’ man! You can’t have a hissy fit and get akumatized just because some ship doesn’t go your way.
Andre is like those weird adults that make their kids uncomfortable with the opposite gender with the "aww is that your girlfriend?" "If you wanna flirt do it after class!" "Oh he's pulling your hair because he likes you" jokes and than get upset when they don't have a love life/their love life doesn't look like they want it to
He would be a lot less creepy if he just catered to older couples. You know, 18+, college students in their 20s or couples old enough to have their own kids and a mortgage.
My beef I have is the show acts like there isn't a chance for people to move on. Or re-fall in love with someone else. Theres multiple ways love works. Like first love, puppy love, love when it hurts, true love and more. Sure this go off the idea of true love or one love but everyone experiences love differently. Like if the story decided to adress all the possibilities of said love. Aundrey straight up ignores it because his ice cream is the only way to know who is supposed to be together. It's so dumb but i already have beef with dome of the pairs in miraculous because alot of them are just toxic.
I think what's confusing is in some episodes he does give options. He makes sense love icecream. And has made icecream with different flavors to choose from and ge hadn't specially said who his icecream represents. Yet in other episides he is suddenly firm and saying names despite having given options? I mean I was always annoyed at him shooting down mari asking for all three flavours and making her choose pairs but he had at least given flavor options.... But suddenly he is forcing his ships seasons later? Where was that it has to be adrienette energy when he was giving out options when kagami was around? And why is he so Nnoyed at marichat when they are literally the same people? Why can't he see the chemistry? And more if he was always vague on who the icecream represented before...why is he sudden naming names?
He gave her self love icescream and a luka flavored one before. He had a option for marigame and adrien kagami as well as adrienette. So why suddenly him being hard core about ladybug abd chat of adrienette?
I cannot describe in words the rage that built up in me the moment I saw the video title cause it immediately reminded me of all the useless crap Andre has done throughout the show
Everyone in the show jokes/gets annoyed about how Xavier (Pigeon Man) gets akumatized all the time but let’s be real! animal cruelty is a much more understandable reason to get lots of negative emotions over NOT ICE CREAM of all things! I’m with you on the Andre hate train!💀💀💀
you made some interesting points, but I must say that I really do like Andre as a symbolic storytelling device. The idea that his ice-cream symbolically relates to different pairings I think is a really interesting thing that could be used for foreshadowing, or even as a subtle nod to the audience of what is going on inside character's hearts. I actually really liked that episode where Adrien, Kagami, and Marinette go to Andre, and Marinette lets the two of them have the ice-cream. I think that was the type of thing Andre is in the story for. If your issues with the character were addressed, maybe in some kind of re-make that seeks to fix all of the problems with the original, he could be a great element to the story. That said, I do hold that opinion about many things in the show. I am under the opinion that MLB is an outline for a great show. If they treated the show-as-is as a first draft and gave it a heavy editing pass or 2, it could really be one of the greats
Honestly, why did gabriel keeps turning this guy into a ice cream several times where he too big for the job, turns people into ice cream which can include the miraculous and even has a weakness to couples that he can easily be defeated
Lila and Compelling Villain is the last comparison I'd do with her. *Lila and Mary Sue* is a far better Comparison because she is one. Yes, we're suppose to hate Villains. However, we got villains that exist who are *IRREDEEMABLE* yet are still Loved. Bill Cipher for example is the main villain. Bro clearly shows to be a Manipulative and Power Hungry individual yet you don't see us Flaming him. Lila just... Sucks at being a Villain and sucks at being a Character. Nothing about her is Interesting. *ALSO I FULLY AGREE WITH YOUE STATEMENT ABOUT THIS ICE CREAM MAN. Man I hate him*
When two teen boys sit on a bench together, eating ice cream. THIS GUY will walk up to them and yell "FALL IN LOVE, OR ELSE!" Me watching this play out: "Aren't they brothers? Or did I miss something...?"
I HATE ANDRE AND I WAS SO MAD BECAUSE HE SAID “you love Adrien and you love ladybug” I MEAN YEAH BUT THEY “GIVEN” UP ON THEM TO TRY TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE WHO WILL LOVE THEM AND HE LITERALLY DESTROYED THE WHOLE DATE OF THEIRS BECAUSE AT LIEK THE END-ISH PART THEY WERE NOT EVEN TALKING BECAUSE THAT HOW AKWARD IT GOT AFTERWARDS! #Andrehategroup
I mean...the part where u said that andre sucks cuz he doesnt give you the flavour you want, i dont agree with. Cuz ppl prolly go there for THAT reason, But yeah everything else is true!
In my opinion, Chloé's father is still my number one most hated character in Miraculous. Especially in Season 4 and 5 where they tried to make him a "good person" toward Zoe and tried to make him a sympathetic character. Nah man his "redemption" arc was poorly executed and badly written. Plus, he did a lot of damage in Paris when akumatized.
Good video, I agree with you that the most unpleasant character is Andre the ice ameter, he always lets himself be akumatized for his fantasies about rancid teenage romances are not fulfilled when he wants, but as this program loves bad romances his childhood attitude instead of Toxic It shows how adorable Keep making more videos about Miraculous's mistakes
When I first watched this, I was 12 and I thought Andre was weird. Now I'm 15 and revisited it and I think He is the worst. So, I'm glad that you agree with me.
I thought I was the only who hated him Bro is making is own internal fanfics about two young teenagers and getting pissed when they don't have feelings for each other How is that a good character????
Well made video! Your point on this is rational, and I party agree with you if I also look at it from the rational angle. However, we know that this show doesn't have much.. of it. So we have to create this disney bubble around us where everyone has good intentions. "He is just a sentimental French gentleman who believes in magic". Instantly sounds pink cloudy, doesn't it? xD Of course in real life he would be a weirdo. No questions asked. Anyway, that's all :3
You also made a video about Lila in which you talked about why she sucks in an "I want her off my screen" kind of way, remember? Also, regarding the point about André shipping teens, I used to find it weird that you use that as a point against him when you have also hyped over ships between the teenage characters in this show. But in this video, you made a good point about how the difference is that André is shipping teens *who are real people from his point of view,* unlike you.
The fact that he chooses the flavor, and the customers do not get to choose their own flavor really pisses me off. The customers are the ones that choose the flavor and what ice cream they were not the one who’s selling them if I went to this man to get ice cream and I want a chocolate flavor but instead he tells me no I’m going to choose what flavor you want if that were me, I would’ve go fu*k yourself, and I’m never buying ice cream from you ever again
Say what you want about Lila or Chloe, I at least respect them enough as mean girls but this Creep, Hell no. He's a character that I won't respect, will never respect and never like in any way. I lowkey cheered when Marinette said there's nothing special about his ice cream. I know she was wrong, but he deserved it. Maybe not in that scene but overall, he deserves it. I mainly hate for interrupting almost every Marichat moment but also his whole deal. His backstory is pretty moving but the emotional attachment he has to his ice cream is ridiculous and very childish. He's a grown man... If you know you're Ice cream has magical abilities, you should have enough confidence to not get depressed when someone is dating someone else other than what your ice cream predicted. No one is doubting his ice cream's ability or want to feel sorry for his whack self. Amen.
He should have just sighed and rolled his eyes at marrantes snappy comment like a normal person dude get a life this should not get you possessed by gabe
I think it was buggachat on tumblr that made a post that made me remember that this character exists, but they said that he’s more like a priest who thought he was a god but eventually has to face that reality. Like he thinks he’s the one who picks the ice cream and therefore he’s the one in control, but when marinette and chat noir show up he’s thrown into a fit because he is confused why his powers aren’t working, when really they’re fine and its more the ice cream’s power than his. And I think that’s a really funny way of viewing it 😂
I thought it was adorable that he sees love auras but then he took it too far, these are teenagers and Ladybug has violently rejected Cat Noir for months and André Glossier expects him to not give up and not move on, the last one made me despise him he tried to kill Marinette and her family to keep her away from Cat Noir, he apologized but he laughed, he wasn't sorry and given a chance he will do it again because his ships are more important than their mental and emotional health The only thing good about his ships is Adrien found out Marinette was in love with him as Adrien and it gave him the nerve to pursue her to get her to fall in love with him again, (which never stopped)
Tbh, I understand why Andre ship Ladybug And Cat Noir. For example, in Jubilation, both if them reveal their deepest wish is for them to go far away and start a new life together. Theyre blinded by fake crushes ie. Adrien and Ladybug and its just LUST. They like them because ladybug is an icon and so is Adrien. Everyone loves them. But they never talk about Ladybug and Chat Noir. They do love eachother, their excuse is “they dont have a choice”. So they stay with the people they “like” and it feels as if something is missing: Their life isnt complete. They hide things from eachother. But as superheroes, they can be honest. Also, Andre is right abt his ice-cream, its worked everytime. But it doesnt give him the excuse to cry abt it. And the ice -creams are free, it doesnt matter if you dont like it cos you didnt pay. However, still on your side. Andre is a bad character.
