Is Balloon Boy The KEY To The FNAF TIMELINE?! | FNAF Theory 

I’m just saying balloon boy, and mangle need to make a comeback immediately. They haven’t gotten any new mainline variations since Fnaf 4 and that was only a Halloween update.

“What’s up with that little freak, ballon boy?” Is such a strong opening line for a video, obsessed

MatPat: Chica is the key to the whole timeline. RyeToast: Nye, it's actually the creepy toy. This is a super interesting theory and I really like it a lot!

6:50 Balloon Boy shares a really important feature with the Funtimes: sound lures. You use him to lure Springtrap away in Fnaf 3 and the Funtimes entice children away from their parents. He even hands out free balloons just like Circus Baby.

I love the idea that the SL animatronics are based on felt suits from the Fall Fest era. I think that's a very logical, clean explanation of the progression of the franchise

"Little Joe" is 100% Lally from the Lally's Lollies ads in FNAF6

Felt suits would have been incredibly flammable. The fun times are probably recreations of those felt suits that burned during the fall fest fire. Balloon boy probably survived the fire along with the punch bowls explaining why they look similar to each other but different from the fun times and making the fun times newer

Springtrap was actually Balloon Boy with an illusion(joke).

Balloon Boy, Circus Baby, etc., originating with Fall Fest doesn't necessarily mean that CBPW was that early too imo. Possibly they were old characters who William brought back after Freddy's shut down.

When I saw the 3 felt-like mascot costumes here, I noticed they had aprons, and pants on... Clothes... Circus Baby also, Balloon Boy, Ballora, Carnie, even Sun/Moon. Almost all (like 8/9) of the mascots/animatronics that were likely at this circus/carnival have clothing embedded in their designs (except funtime foxy & funtime freddy, which maybe they were later funtime additions and not there?) It sounds silly, but people count toes in this franchise, so clothed animatronics doesn't seem so bad right? 😅

To quote the Security Breach trailer: "Insanity prevails". This video is gonna be wild

I’m so excited to see what Fallfest has in store. I get the feeling it’s going to contain big reveals for us about the entire storyline

I don’t know if anyone has brought this up but the “Brazil” ending is also interesting because there’s a huge event in Brazil called Carnival…

It would make sense if balloon boy was or inspired by fall fest 1970 bc in security breach when we first play balloon world we see a big red tent which does look abit similar to the poster

I believe carnival nurse actually represents William, especially when you look at the “injuries” the kids suffer from. I’ve made a few theories about Fall Fest William

I love theories like this - reexamining things that have largely been dismissed by the fanbase as unimportant. Always turns up some real interesting thoughts.

I've always just assumed Balloon Boy, JJ, and DD were gonna be used as lures for Circus Baby's pizza world but after Elizibeth died, they got sold off to Freddys. But this is way deeper than I had imagined

aww yeah. being the sole balloon boy fan is a hard job, so excited for this vid to drop 😂

Fall Fest would be such an interesting addition to the franchise, especially because the Halloween themed sections of Fnaf are Fnaf at its highest in terms of aesthetics. It would be such a breath of fresh air if they handle it correctly because it would come back to something a bit more traditional instead of whatever timeline mess we are currently in.

Losing it at how you specifically decided to show footage of Spiff playing the fruit punch clown while talking about it. He really will never escape that clown.

Getting Sploff for clown gameplay was a great choice

The "Little Joe" is the same chatacter that appears in the Lally's lollies ad from Pizza Sim, and seeing as all the ads are from non-fazbear entertainment companys, its possible that means BB also isn't origanaly from Fazbear Entertainment (not sure how that would affect your timeline theory but yeah)

I know how Freddy Fazbear’s LLC was created. The thing is the original Freddy Fazbear’s brand was dissolved by Henry but Afton robotics, probably declining due to the death of their owner, probably re-branded as Freddy Fazbear’s and if you look on the blueprint of baby in the other fun time animatronics you’ll see the Afton robotics was an LLC company. They probably just re-branded to Freddy Fazbear’s. They had to try to catch up in the corner profit. That also explains why they’re so shady.

Also in the opening screen, if you turn around, Baby is there (I'm pretty sure, I remember it when it came out but it may be inaccurate)

Bro, I can't believe the Fruit Punch Clown now has lore relevance. Spiff's gonna love this

I am genuinely so stoked about this.

Not to mention the Fourth Closet when going to CBPW, Balloon Boy is there at the location as well. After Scott said N. BB is canon, I always had a theory of BB came form the Sister location cast, specially with little joe and the magician having the same design, putting Afton Robotics before Fazbear Pizzeria given they would be the ones to built the robots.

Wanna know the toys are possessed because of the dci but is balloon boy AI are possessed

I'm really surprised that no one in the comments has mentioned the Balloon Circus line of Funko FNAF merch. There's a clear connection between Balloon Boy, Balloon World, Circus Baby, and Circus Baby's Pizza World.

I'm still convinced that the multiple Shadow Balloon Boys in the FNAF 3 minigames is evidence that a single person's soul can be split between multiple animatronics as 'dark remnant' or 'agony' or whatever you want to call it.

Hand Unit says in Sister Location, "After the close of freddy fazbears pizza the stage was set for another contender in childrens entertainment", Circus Baby's Pizza World was made after freddys was closed but never opened due to elizabeth dying.

I'm just imagining early Fall Fest with the most random ass collection of characters: a bear, a clown girl (Baby), a little boy with balloons, sun- and moon-themed jesters, a pirate fox, etc., lol. But it would make sense with a newly made, still only half-baked festival

My idea for what happened to fall fest is that one of the animatronics caught fire (represented by the foxy maze minigame) which caused the rest of the carnival to catch fire like we see in HW2

Honestly, i wouldnt be suprised if the mimic would of possibly been in one of the fallfest (specifically in 83’s fire incident) since those suits were probably the first suits to be used both on a exoskeleton and human. And that their very carnival themed and would probably be used in fallfest.

my theory is that funtime animatronics and balloon boy and all the others you talked about their characters were made for fall fest but then after some time afton has remade the most loved animatronics and balloon boy could be one a leftover animatronic from the fall fest that was fixed and repurposed before (or after) circus baby’s was supposed to open

Im living for the cat whos just happily in the whole video. But really this video is just great overall, keep up the good work!

I feel like a Circus or Carnival theme would GREAT idea for a mascot horror game like FNAF

Excellent theory as always also good ear for background music, Spyro 1’s OST is one of my favorites Copeland is a genius

I was watching this again and another tie-in with the funtimes might also be how bb doesnt attack- a bit of deter and distract mechanics?

for a moment i thought that he will comment that at that table with the afton family as staff bots mike's has a balloon boy hat, sort of implying that he is based on micheal just like baby was based on elizabeth

@RyeToast Love your FNaF theories man. I was wondering if there was a specific place to recommend theory topics for you to cover.

Omigod and what if Fred Bears singing show is at this Carnival 🤯

fnaf is 100% trying to get us all crazy abt circus and carnival stuff and unless its just a big troll i agree that we're going there next

this theory has giving me an idea may be originally the funtimes were just suits for performers to wear over time ( possibly due to chica's party world ) the main business switched to animatronics and pizza restaurants and the costumes were forgotten about. then when William was doing his secret projects he created the funtimes based of the old circus suits from back in the day. honestly this is just what I think about it.

I love this theory! I adore that it's an opportunity to take a whole different perspective on the events and timeline of the franchise by focusing in on elements often overlooked, i.e. balloon boy. Definitely some interesting food for thought

I love this channel sm.

Another great vid! Perhaps the Funtime animatronics are the next evolution or generation/iteration of characters from Fall Fest? Or I'm just looking too much into it lol

the fall fest made me think of the nightmare animatronics. maybe a Halloween event but this is just a idea.

i literally screamed spiff when i saw spiff

Brazil is a joke ending, a reference to a movie of the same name where at the end a guy thinks he'd been rescued from bad dudes that were about to torture him but in reality he'd gone insane from the torture he thinks he escaped from and his broken mind is just imagining he's safe, same as what Cassie's doing imagining she's on a sunny grassy hill with Gregory when a monster's right behind her about to tear her apart. I wouldn't put any stock in its visuals. The Carnival reference in the developer text was in regards to some scrapped thing for the Mimic, I forgot what exactly but I think TetraBit goes over it in one of his unused stuff videos for Ruin. The only vestige left of it in the full game is the Mimic's musical theme being vaguely carnival-like.

Amazing Job On This Theory About Balloon Boy RyeToast !

Your videos are addictive i could listen to u all day😊.

I would love to see a theory more in depth about Charlie and fnaf world!! It’s an explanation I’ve never heard before actually

4:57 SPIGG SPOTTED

Balloon Boy did the bite of 87

My theory has long been that many years before the restaurants opened Afton and Henry first owned a travelling circus together, or at least worked at one together as young men, teenagers even. I also think a lot of people give the rhetoric that Afton only started killing after his daughter died. But i think the movie was trying to tell us that's not true with Afton's daughter being alive in it. Perhaps Afton started killing while working at that travelling circus, but at that point wasn't stuffing bodies into suits. Looking at real life evidence of IRL serial killers, lots of times many of a SK's first kills don't follow the same patterns. I've long thought that Afton's killing would have predated his daughter's death, otherwise why would the funtimes be the perfect killers when his daughter is killed by one of them, and he actively tells his daughter not to go near them.... he KNEW they were dangerous already.

even back in "Fury''s Rage" by Scott there is a bit that shows a circus in a level and Scrap trap laying in a alley!

Nightmare balloon boy confirms that balloon boy already existed before 1987

Saving this video for later 'cause I cannot miss out on Balloon Boy lore

I know this is a bit of a Reach but even though it's strongly hinted that Garrett is inside The Puppet, I saw someone suggest that he could be inside Balloon Boy. He tried to get Mike's attention twice (once after an IT'S ME appearance, I think...).and he could've gotten into Cory's cab to try to go home to Abby. I know Garrett got murdered way before Abby was born but the spirits of Afton's victims are still around and can communicate in various ways sooo...maybe. Like I said, it's a Reach and honestly, Garrett being in The Puppet would make more sense narratively but we'll see what happens in the next movies.

this is so interesting, especially bc i think most people see bb and just look past him? like, “oh he’s weird” and that’s it. i think for sure that if bb is part of circus baby’s crew and they ARE from fall fest, it would fs create issues with everyone’s timelines. if you’re still looking for video ideas, i’d be really interested to see if there is any reason why there are posters of the toy animatronics in security breach - specifically the toy animatronics, and no one else. dunno if it’s already been covered here, or if there really is anything to it, but it’s always been such an odd detail to me that it doesn’t seem like it’s just there to be there and that there isn’t anything deeper (does that make sense?)

I love how on the thumbnail that he's mar3 to appear like the grinch. Also trying to articulate while just waking up is hard 😂

I mean there have been so many circus/carnival/jester characters lately. All circus baby’s world, Sun and Moon, bb and possibly even more characters might’ve been our earliest ever characters and one cool carnival game.

Looks like a fun video :) (But geez, the BB slander in the thumbnail :( )

My idea for how the funtimes could possibly still come later in the timeline is that Carnie is an earlier version of the funtimes fall fest could be like a yearly thing that’s been going on for decades, so early on it was the felt suits (similar to the ones under the pizzaplex or glitchtrap) then carnie’s generation was made and later on the funtimes were made to capture the familiarity of the original fest mascots

I think I said this on another video, but this is stuff I've believed for a while too. I think Balloon boy may sound the most human because William recorded Michael as a child. It's his voice used to direct Springtrap in Fnaf 3. Fall Fest was the rebranding after the Circus Baby Pizzaria scandal & Chica's quote about being the first was because she replaced Elizabeth/Baby as the vocalist & was a Henry creation. Foxy was next because he took his refined elegant character & downgraded him. Fall Fest may also have been one of the founder's kid's birthdays since most events take place during a birthday.

I love your take on FNAF World.

This would also explain why afton is pitching baby at the beginning of sister location, where the people are asking about the design changes on baby. Those people originally held the rights to these characters at fall fest.

Not to mention in help wanted 2 one of the unlockables that apparently doesn't do anything is a mini carousel, which seems to be the exact same carousel from fnaf 2

Belora seems like she’s based on a circus performer (acrobat, tightrope walker, part of the animal act where they stand on horses or elephants, etc) So some of the Funtimes may have been based on performers instead of costumed characters. They were created after the franchise had gone in the direction of animatronics, and as they were likely thinking of ideas on how to expand. Balloon Boy and the drink clowns don’t have the aesthetic of the funtimes, and aren’t really animatronics. They are more decorative. So, perhaps at Fredbear’s Family Diner, decor elements from Fall Fest rolled over. So while the mascots were the stars, balloon boy and the drink clowns were hold overs. BB and his variants seem like they could work like signage. A “you must be this tall to ride” or “the line starts here”. He’d be like a proto Helpy, a friendly face helping people navigate the fall fest, and later Fredbear’s Family Diner and Circus Baby’s. Timeline wise: I can see the restaurant for Circus Baby coming on the heels of Fredbear’s closing, with the rental opening after the first Freddy’s closed. By the time of FNAF2, it seems that people suspect William enough to ban former employees and such. So Afton getting approval to create animatronics would be earlier in the timeline. Coming of the heels of Freddy’s successful opening, and an opportunity created by the closure of Fredbear’s, Afton would be in a great position to pitch a new restaurant. He could even spin it at not having Henry involved and thus throwing him under the bus for the closure of Fredbear’s in the eyes of the investors. So I think an order of events that can work: CC > Charlie > Elizabeth > MCI The Funtimes were meant to kidnap to find test subjects for the experiments. William, at that point, was trying to understand what happened between Charlie and the Puppet after his crime of passion. The failure of the Funtimes (or success depending on how you look at it) convinced William that fear wasn’t enough, the person needed to die for the animatronic to come to life. So the MCI occurs, he starts renting out the Funtimes to try and continue killing but finds it doesn’t work like the MCI or Elizabeth or Charlie. That leads to the DCI, which again fails to create new haunted animatronics. However, observing the behaviour of the withereds and how the toys act when withered parts are introduced, leads to Afton’s next plan: collecting the endos as seen in follow me.

I’ve had a theory about the Mimic’s origins for a really long time. I don’t know if it’s true, it has some flaws especially with the books in mind, but I’d at least like to hear other people talk about it. In FNAF 4, William Afton is presumed to be the one telling his son “I will put you back together”. Despite that, we never see him actually try it. At the same time, we have the mimic, a copycat killer that, when broken and given agony by its creator, followed in Afton’s footsteps specifically. We know that William Afton is obsessed with control, as well as bringing back his dead kids, as seen with Baby. Lastly, we can infer that the Mimic, and the AI that seems to stem from it, specifically focus on recreating the Aftons, as seen in the Post-it Room in the Pizzaplex sewers. What if William Afton built the Mimic? It would certainly be in character for him to do so, and the mimic being linked to William so much would make a lot more sense. William could have built the underground lab and M.X.E.S console that we see under the FNAF 6 location (which we’ve been theorizing could have previously been Fredbear’s Family Diner) at a time when FFD was still open, shortly after the crying child’s death. To that extent, the mimic lab would have been where William first experimented with subterranean locations, AI programming, and the scooper, all things he would later use for Circus Baby’s Pizza World. The scene between Edwin and the mimic, where the mimic is shown holding the Tiger plushie and causes Edwin to break the machine in anger, could have easily happened between William and the mimic too. I mean, the plushie could have been the Fredbear plush that the crying child was known to hold, and that William evident kept with him all the way up to the building of Circus Baby’s rentals. In turn, William breaking the mimic out of anger produces two monsters: one that began his destruction of life with a seemingly emotionless robot, and one that, after infused with those same murderous thoughts through agony, would lead a similar legacy long after the first monster’s death. Even after William was trapped in purgatory, the mimic promised that he would always come back, through a being that reflected his own violent nature. But wait, there’s more! I and a lot of other people have been suspecting that our newest protagonist Jeremy was one of the bullies involved in the Bite of 83, the same event that would lead to the mimic’s creation. Under this theory, our current protagonist and antagonist are connected by a common event, which could easily lead to stronger stories possibilities later down the line (assuming we see more Jeremy, it’s currently up in the air in that regard). But perhaps the most interesting detail is one that’s been staring us in the face all along. When Cassie first meets the mimic in its true form, she asks “who are you?”. The mimic simply repeats “I’m Gregory”. Sure, this line is to build up suspense and has an obvious role in the story. But perhaps there’s something more to that line. Gregory as a character has been presented as a mirror of the crying child, at least on a symbolic level as evident with the hillside images in the Princess Quest and Burntrap endings (I’m leaving the robot Gregory discussion out of this one). What if, through their shared connection to the crying child, Gregory and the mimic had a lot more in common than we thought. What if the mimic really meant it when it said “I’m Gregory”? Please, if anybody sees this, feel free to respond to this post. I really just want more people to think about this, because I have the feeling it might change where we see FNAF’s story heading in the future.

If you're looking for another link between Mike and Balloon Boy - In Security Breach, the room with all the sticky notes and the family setup; the staffbot representing the oldest son is dressed similarly to Balloon Boy (striped shirt and a propeller hat)

Tbh, Another character that could fit into that fall fest/carnival theme could be the Ringmaster foxy from the Fnaf AR special delivery Dark Carnival event. That and great escape freddy, idk, something about those two skins felt oddly specific now that fall fest seems to be a thing teased so much. Just thought i'd add this tid bit in as an option.

To the Moon is with the Circus Baby crew theory, probably not likely. He seems WAY too advanced for something to be made in the 70s. His concept, being literally the moon, was likely made during Fall Fest. Fazbear Entertainment likely took that concept and ran with it.

RyeToast at 4:15 you're talking about the into the pit game with the poster and you say theres a poster of circus baby, but its actually music man

We’ve actually seen balloon boy in the twisted ones and as a matter of fact scott confirmed that silver eyes books were cannon. So the point is that we see a ruined restraunt underground so the thing that happened to fnaf 6 pizzeria might have happened to this restraunt too and balloon boy was then relocated to sister location bunker and then fnaf 2

4:14 to me that poster in into the pit looks more like DJ music man than baby - I can see it going either way though. Depending on who it is could impact how early DJMM was created too, he does have the same colouring as the fun times

I like to think a balloon boy is possessed by the kid from the Fnaf 4 minigames he even has the same colors as BB in the air adventure mini game.

So just finished the last FNAF Game Theory video. Turns out it was RyeToast the entire time. Congratulations!

We know literally nothing about Mrs. Afton. What if she's the first death at fall fest. A way to make Henry's speech in PizzaSim make sense is make Mrs. Afton related to him(family, ex, secret pining love interest). Gives William a reason to look into spirits and remnant. Though, it would make CC at least 13yo by '83.🤔

3:20 I don't know about any experiments, I believe FNAF 4 Gameplay is Michael's Nightmare during FNAF 1 where he's on the place of CC in these Nightmares, must be influence of Golden Freddy

Theres also the fact that the funtime series are advanced enough, like moving faceplates, hatches and baby's claw, bon bon is detachable. Which seems highly unlikely for 1970s-85 grade tech in real world standards.

Astralspiff crossover😮

I remember a fnaf theorist found information that the claw machines was Williams first work, it was a long time ago but now I believe it if William intended to build the funtimes this early by your timeline

I really hope we get to see more of those felt costumes in the future. It's such an itch that we have only seen them once :[ like, how old are them? are they from the Henry's or William franchise, or were they someone else's property?

9:12 that cause of zoomies, as cats still are built for wilderness and since there you are asked to overcome alot of bullshit, the cats have alot of energy, You need to play with them More so they bond with you and more importantly use up that energy to make them stronger.

Cool theory!

13:12 yes. a very, very long time ago.

We talked about Mimic-Baby, but what about Mimic-Balloon Boy?

I promise I'm listening but I'm staring very intently at how cute your cat is being

im happy you noticed the importance of BB in the movie/ I hope we can figure it out with that and the bb arcade machine and stuff. feels like it all ties to the lil boy we see in the fnaf mini games. Wild guess but what if that was the year Elizabeth died. I think she was the first death, or second to first bc of micheals drawing in the fnaf guide.

In my mind I don’t think the idea of the funtimes at fallfest necessarily changes the timeline/ makes sister location take place earlier. I think circus baby & co could’ve originally been made for fall-fest without all the child kidnapping things implemented into them, and then put into storage once fall fest was over. Balloon boy was taken out of storage & put into the fnaf2 location, but the others remained in storage until the time when william wanted to create circus babys to kidnap kids. then, all he had to do was modify the old shells to add the kidnapping mechanisms, making the whole location much cheaper to open up because everything was kind-of pre-existing, and there would be less questioning of the internal mechanics of the funtimes because from the outside looking in others see william replacing old internal hardware with more modern, functioning things, making use of old things instead of letting them be scrapped/rot like the suit that the mimic is in in ruin. Still pretty circumstantial but it makes sense in my head!

I always mentally placed the creation of Circus Baby et all in the 81-83 range. Like Charlotte does, Henry makes his robots in his grief, rejects the fourth one and scraps it, and Afton steals it from the trash to finish it. Despite having dead children as a potential motivator, Afton never really shows ANY interest or care for his kids at all. They're just superfluous, and extra data points. Whatever his motivation, it seems way more self-centered than grieving father.

I've never played the games nor have I read the books, however I love watching the community talk about the game. One of my favorite ideas from dungeons and dragons a friend brought up to me was the lich. Michael acts a lot like a lich. What if the weird cable tree IS Michael controlling everything and glitchtrap and the other incarnations are just avatars?

People have been sleeping on BB. He's always been different. The BB/GG/CC associations. His movie jumpscares. He's important.

For all the Sploff's fans: we must rewatch the clown video 😂

4:49 chippers revenge is the best boss fight personally

What if the Funtimes we know about (the ones built to kidnap) weren't the first models? What if they were already animatronics that weren't meant to kidnap but at a certain point in the timeline, he decided to remake them and "upgrade" them?

If the Toys are based off actual toys, then wouldn't it make sense for BB to be based off Little Joe?

7:17 lots of helpis would be my nightmare