Is Batwoman Season 3 Actually Good? 

I still can't fathom the idea that a bat suit made by the legend Lucius Fox has a safety feature that is basically the equivalent of pulling the plug on life support when a person has a stroke.

7:43 Alice is the worst villain of any of the DC CW shows. She kills innocent people with no remorse and only gets away because Kate and Ryan pull a Barry Allen and think just telling her to stop killing will automatically make her stop only for her to keep killing. She's not sympathetic at all but the writers keep trying to force the audience to feel sorry for her by saying "Oh she was kidnapped, abused and hypnotised so it's not her fault" when it is. Why are the people in the CW Gotham City who've dealt with Joker, Two Face, Penguin, Scarecrow, Riddler and the like scared of an Alice in Wonderland cosplayer.

15:54 Spoiler Alert: Mary's transformation was completely wasted by episode 10 and everyone went into hyper drive to excuse her actions (including killing three people) by saying she was controlled by Poison Ivy. This despite proclaiming she was happy in her Poison Ivy form in the prior episode. Otherwise, your analysis was spot on, because she was completely useless, as all her original connections to the show (Kate, her mother, and Jacob Kane) were all gone by the end of season 2. She could have been written out as well as Alice, but the writers decided to team them up instead.

It’s good that their is at least some progress being made in terms of quality, but regardless those abysmal qualities prevent the show from becoming better, so the sooner those aspects are fixed/removed, the sooner Season 3 can be considered the best Batwoman season. Which isn’t saying much considering the writing of the previous two, but it’s the thought that counts.

No it's not. Poison Ivy was wasted and the plot with the Joker wannabee is stupid

see here's the thing if a show just starts getting "good" by like season 3,4,5 etc then what is the point in getting invested. shows like Daredevil,Punisher,Defenders,Lucifer,Last Kingdom,Altered Carbon etc are all great examples of shows because they had such a solid first 2 seasons and if the later seasons are still great then bonus but if the first seasons are crap and the quality only goes up slightly by season 3 onwards it's pointless.

This show illustrates how morally bankrupt the writing room is

Thanks GIO, you always give fair & in depth takes instead of blind hate.

First of all good video. You made some interesting points. I have to agree that Ryan seems more in sync with being Batwoman. The writers have tone down her preachy SJW talking points. Ryan’s family dynamics seemed forced and we don’t see her talk to her adoptive mom anymore so I can’t really see how family is really that important to her. She hasn’t been clued in with Mary or Luke’s problems this season. It seems that Luke is not allow to shine. The suit works better with the fail safe off. If they wanted a fail safe to get him out danger, have the suit fly him away. I wish the writers would let Luke grow like Diggle on Arrow. They should let Luke to some of the patrolling or take Marcus back to his mother but the plot won’t let him be competent at anything. Mary was confusing character through all three seasons. She seems to be that lost puppy to whoever she craving attention from. Then we hear how she doesn’t feel like she important to them from Kate all the way to Ryan and even Poison Ivy. It is real waste of her character. She say I need to step away and do my own thing to show that she is more than afterthought. It would have been cool to see Jada hire Mary behind Ryan’s back to fix Marcus. Somehow she old have ended up under Marcus’ control. Maybe a Harley Quinn would have worked better. Sophie and Alice’s characters have not been integrated into this season but forced. The writers need to stop trying to redeem Alice when Jacob is in jail for doing less than what she has done. The fact that Alice can walk around Gotham is insane. She was supposed to be this supervillain and no one cares. Unless it was public knowledge that Alice is helping then I don’t see how this storyline works. I thought once Luke became Batwing that Sophie could take the helm in front of the computer and worked with Luke on designing equipment since she could use her tactical skills from the Crows. Overall, I think the writers have wasted how the devices are used. The items are either recovered off screen or too easy. Marcus should have been more like Two-Face than The Joker. They could have played him more like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. The Joker’s buzzer could have triggered where he episodes of madness if he doesn’t take a medication that stops the mental damage. That is why I think a Two-Face character would work better. Montoya and Poison Ivy arch just shows how that you can just do bad things and get away with it. All the death and damages that was caused by these two and they get to live on tropical paradise. Such a great message. Yes, I do blame Montoya because she didn’t realized that you can have feelings for someone who does bad things and still hold them accountable. That is why Batman hid Poison Ivy away. I will agree the premise was better than last season. The problem was there was too much minor villains that you can’t real developed major villains. Poison Ivy and Marcus is enough to have. The team is still not cohesive and that is why it feels characters are wasted.

So, Would a comparison between Cameron Monaghan's three versions of the joker and this show's version be fair? Or does Cameron win by a landslide?

For taking the time to legit dive into this show at this point? That earned you a sub all on its own!

Is the tittle how it is so you won’t be demonetized

I hope you can do a video about Train to Busan (2016) and how different it is from other zombie movies. Btw, great video mate (as always).

I think the big saving grace for this season was the whole Poison Ivy storyline. I'm not just talking about Mary getting powers. I mean with how they introduced OG Ivy into the Arrowverse, who's actually casted perfectly in my opinion, and how she was portrayed in this show. Just saying. Question: How come you didn't record your last Q@A on the channel?

What day next week is it coming? I’ve been waiting on the video every since Armageddon ended. also, it isn’t a crossover, it’s just a special event with a bit more budget and guest stars. But yeah can’t wait for that video I’ve been waiting for like 1.5 months

Gio's review of Batwoman season 3: It's slightly better than the worst thing ever. And honestly, facts.

Some people only watch the show for Alice, and the actress is very close to the cast. So while she isn't needed on the show after season 1, CW will get better ratings and more viewers if they keep her

Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but I _despise_ CW writers using LGBTQ+ characters for plot convenience. If it'd been any character but Renée Montoya in her place, making her decisions, half of this shit wouldn't have happened. That's probably just me, however. Ivy and Montoya are confirmed lesbian/bisexual in their source media, so my ire is likely unwarranted. It's just convenient how many times they pull the "surprise gay" trope in CW shows. It used to have a decent purpose for representation and such, but now it's just bleggghghgh.

The only thing that is scarier than Batman, is Batman with a cane.

I am liking season 3 of batwoman but I like Alice she fun and crazy and doas add some comady to the team and they have turned Alice into more of an antihero than a villain

you should make an updated video now that the season is over (if you want). i think a lot of your gripes with the show have been resolved in the back half, like alice leaving, and also filled a couple tiny plot holes in the process. the comic that just released made the season so much better in my opinion, because it added context to the whole paragon thing and how ryan is the new bat of the future. honestly s3 is the best season of batwoman, and it’s better than almost half of the flash’s seasons tbh

@8:13-8:20 "Send a maniac to catch a maniac!" *-Sylvester Stallone as John Spartan (Demolition Man)*

Spoilers… No. But it is fun to watch Thorias Villain Origin Story unfolding before our very eyes. Batwoman S3 is turning Thorias into a IRL joker.

5:00 I think the telltale Batman games did a better job at making penguin the CEO (or whatever Bruce was).

Also, take this for what it’s worth: to get to 100k you probably need to post a bit more. Maybe bi-weekly? Just a thought, I know it’s tough. But I watch and like every video.

8:43 I’d say adding Alice to the Bat Team was a smart move on Montoya’s part. It added just enough chaos to distract the Bat Team for long enough that she could enact her plan. I mean, the whole reason she got that moment alone with Ivy was because of Alice distracting Sophie and Mary distracting Ryan, and Mary became full-villain because of Alice. Granted it’s unlikely that she knew that was going to happen, but it’s still a pretty safe bet to assume that adding Alice to Batwoman’s responsibilities would keep her occupied enough to not notice Renee’s behavior

I’d like to see a Legends video. Of any kind.

I loved season 3 of the show and it really made me wish they had just gone with Ryan being Batwoman from the beginning, I enjoyed her backstory a lot more.

This might be my last comment, but I think Alice is only on this show still because Batwoman might not have any other villains. I'm most likely very wrong, and this is a lack of knowledge on my part, but I don't know if Kate had other big villains like Alice in the comics.

Good video, i have a few thoughts to it. Marcus bothered me for several reasons. If as a child he murdered his father then how did he make it to second in command to his mothers company? how did he or his mother hide the crazy that long? Also does the wayne building have any security? Marcus comes in straight to the top floor. lucas calls security and one dude shows up? where the security cameras when he was killing the guard? This is a comic book show written by people who have never read a comic book.

No, it's no good at all. Why ask the question when the ratings tell the whole story?

Dude they let Poison Ivy free to an island with the Montoya clone (because CW Montoya is not the real Montoya), they’re going to let Alice off with not even a slap on the wrist

It’s definitely improved.it’s kinda like I Titans situation where the show keeps improving with seasons but never actually gets good

I have been watching Batwoman with my sister from the beginning. I haven’t finished the video yet, nor caught up entirely so far, but I will say this: the “social commentary” if it even deserves to be called that, is noticeably toned down. A welcome change, given how poorly it was done before. However, this leaves more time to screw up characters. Luke’s surprise birthday PTSD comes from nowhere, and only exists to put him back where he was before he became Batwing. Ryan is as incompetent as she was before, but slightly less annoying. Mary cannot act well as a villain, and her motivations are just frustratingly petty. Poison Ivy, for the little ive seen, has lost almost all complexity and is just Plant Girlfriend to Montoya, who is also stupid (how long was she planning to stall with the joy buzzer? It’s not like she ever told them to find Ivy, that came from the convenience of Mary getting infected). Sophie still has 0 character outside of Lesbian, and we’ve got the usual “nothing makes sense, kill me” in short, “better” is a misleading word. I would say, “they only yanked out 7 of my teeth this time”

I totally agree, Alice should not have been in season 3, let her azz rot in jail

I’m gonna be real, the only time I actually watch this show is when I’m washing the dishes. I fell so behind, that I am catching up as I’m washing dishes or unloading the dishwasher.

No it's not because instead of bringing in the actual Mad Hatter they just had a random guy pick up his stuff and start using it, instead of the real Killer Croc they had a kid turn into a creature like Croc after being bitten by him and before they brought Poison Ivy they had Mary turn into a brainwashed Ivy ripoff. Then there's their failed attempts at making Ryan's brother the show's Joker.

I agree. Season 3 is a slight improvement over the the first 2 seasons. Who knows if season 3 is the last one? If the show gets renewed for a fourth it has to do extremely better

i really love how you give your honest opinions even when they go against the grain. and how you allow your mind to change about shows like batwoman. good work!

Yeah I'm not going to lie I'm impressed with how it's improved. I hope it stays on this path

No... It isn't good. There are plot holes the size of craters all over this show. I highly suggest watching Thorias Unlimited. I tried to review this show, but I found it impossible to keep torturing myself with this garbage. I don't know how you do it, but good video!

Great video! Are you going to do one on Naomi?

Also Gio, what do you think about the trucker protest convoy happening in Canada? What’s your take there Gio buddy?

First off, Great Video! Honestly Batwoman is just a garbage fire at this point. I lost my faith at the Season 2 premiere because I actually was stupid enough to think that they would, you know, improve the show and have another actress as Kate Kane. Even with Season 3, I ignored it and the Arrowverse Crossover frankly because Ryan just leaves a bad taste after Season 2 for me. It doesn't surprise me that Season 3 was a joke, after all, the finale for Season 2 was just plain dumb. Doesn't surprise me that Season 3 was just the same if not worse than 2, I'd rather watch something like Flash/Legends/Superman&Lois over this anyday of the week, Thank God its coming to a close....hopefully.

Best part of the whole show has been Alice, I wish for season two that actress just played both twins Kate and Alice. But season three I really like the actress who played poison Ivy. Her look was actually really good. The rest is terrible. Cancel the show and give Alice a spin off.

"That's not a safety feature, that's a fuck you feature!" had me rolling

2:09 Bro I drink when I watch this show. I don't remember shit from any of these seasons.

Oh Shit Batwing is in this show now? I'm going to start watching it again

The professor pyg episode was incredible. From there on, this season was a near 10 out of 10.

CW writers are not competent they create scenarios but don’t play them out in the writers room to see the outcome

It is a shame that we never saw Alice kill the original Madhatter and becomes the new gang leader or that she become an inspired version of Joker and destroy a lot of the city and become a real villaine to Batwoman. Everything would be better as her sort of anti hero story.

So guess we’ll never see what they could have done with season 4

Season 3 is good so far but I’m kinda in the middle that it is bad and good. The other seasons before were trash.

it did get better but it still sucks

20:10 they did this with Ivy and Renee yet nothing is done about that. Zsasz is in jail for killing people, Alice.... has been there but cause of Kate has gotten away. and with Ryan... well she seems to be more hero at this point or is getting there. the new Croc and Mad Hatter... might be out, Clue Master is in jail

There's something to be said that you can't build up a good series after 3 seasons when the foundations are extremely p*ss poor, as is the case with season 1 and 2. This show need to knock it out of the park at least in the first 6 episodes of the first season but they dropped the ball. Since it's a Berlanti production they have ARROW as a blueprint to work off of and they did in fact use it but they quickly went off the rails when they tried to steamroll a seasons worth of character/story development inside of the first three episodes, and it got progressively worse as the season progressed. Kate discovering Alice is Beth feels more like a mid-season shocker. Alice killing Mary's mom should be the inciting incident that gets the ball rolling towards the season finale (or saved for season 2) and Alternate Earth Beth showing up is a season finale WTF closer. I get that Crisis may have put them in a spot, but good creative writers can work with restrictions. They also need to drop this turd-wave Feminism Crap, Lesbian is ALMIGHTY garbage, and making Social Commentary on things these writers are clearly too stupid to understand...other than pushing an agenda. I am shocked that this show is finally getting cancelled. Spite can only go so far.

Does a donut stand a chance near Tess Holliday?

How to removed Alice? Enter Harley Quinn Oh wait she's busy working with Amanda Waler's Suicide Squad? 😂

13:33 Black Joker! Denanananananana!

1:14 - I'd never beat you or anyone else with a tite iron. Much like a certain clown we all know and fear/love, I'm biased towards crowbars.

Had me in the first half not gonna lie

They should have had a Luke and Mary love story since they face alot together that would bring them closer but they chose to pass it for alot of boring unreal relationships.

Gotta say Season 3 of batwoman for me is at the level of flash season 5 and arrow season 3 Not bad But nothing memorable or interesting

will black siren/canary on arrowverse was a mass murder in earth two pre crisis where barry had to stop her topple buildings which she remark about haw many more she could topple shows she done before and look forward to do it agian,so alice is another time where a mas murderer get off for every crime she did since black siren did it as well.

Why does every show u review get canceled after a certain amount of time

8:20 *cough* Silence of the Lambs *cough*

115:13 "Excuse the fuck out of me?"

To me the only improvements are the plot of season 3 and Ryan not being annoying everything else is Garbage, Alice is the worst, Luke being qtupid for no reasons, Marry hating on everyone else just because he friend didn't have time to play with her, also she acting like she was the Best person amongs the team, i'm still not forgiving her for being an ass to Jacob. Here is something else, they are out here playing with Alice but Jacob stays in Jail? And about the mental hillness thing? Slade Wilson was better than Alice, all day.

As a lifelong fan of all things Bat-related I am severely, I mean severely, disappointed in this show. I truly tried to like the show, ignoring all of its defects (bad plots and plot holes, defective characters, ridiculous writing) and wasted use and potential of villains but what little was left was still not good. I do love the fact that this show has renewed my faith that anyone, I mean anyone, can put on a costume and be an instant Hero or Villian without any training or unique skills. Although I'm starting to doubt this premise as I purchased several costumes and have yet to stop any crimes and the mayor hasn't answered my threats to reduce the price of metered parking 'or else'. However, much like this show I did receive a lot of laughter at my expense.

Imagine enjoying anything resembling this show or any other CW show. Let’s stop talking about the story and plot and decisions. These are things you talk about when production value, dialogue, acting and writing are a least a little passable. In every single CW show, this is not the case. It’s not even close to passable. Everyone’s like oh “the flash used to be good”. Like fucking when dude? never

Has batwoman actually been cancelled??

i think this season has been really good so far! but the bitter taste from the previous seasons will make people’s opinions forever be tainted

FLASH SEASON 8 PLS DO IT ITS ACTUALLY GOOD

The writers never thought outside the box meaning they can't push agendas it would have been better for the show if they did not.

I fought season 3 was canceled because no one watched season 1 or 2 wtf happened?

They had Luke crying for his dad in an episode that's so sad 😭

I’ll be amazed if season 3 is actually the end. Caroline Dries isn’t done driving RU-vidrs like you nuts, bro. You’re surviving better than Az and Thorias though.

Bro flash season 8 review

@ 8:46 - 8:56 😂😂😂😂👍👍👍

No. Batwoman is as far from good as Hell is from Heaven.

We get it its not out of the ordinary but i actually thought season 3 is very good but the lesbian drama is the only thing dragging the show down and the OG poison ivy casting was PERFECTION

Alice was my favorite character

also the arrowverse doesnt have good supersuits.luke heck even ryan look ridiculous

Fun fact about flash: kid flash barely gets in flash now he comes in a single season one time

I'm curious - are you, by chance, watching EFAP? You seem like an avid viewer.

Season 3 of batwoman isn't the final season it would have been blowing up on the internet and the actors would have said something About Season 3 being their final season even the show would have said something Ab it being the final season but it's not the final season it's getting another season hopefully

I like Alice's actress, but not the character. She formed a terrorist group out of daddy issues. One season about her family and she is still there in season 3. I think the writers wanted to redeem her villainy to be in the show this long, but didn't get there. Almost, but naw.

Yes.

Batwoman le promete a Alice dejarla ir si la ayuda, al final la traiciona. Batwoman quiere curar a Marquis que no quiere ser curado, y Alice que quiere ser curada no es ayudada, todo esta totalmente fuera de la ideologia de Batman, creo no solo no es buena, si no que es terrible.

Trying to choose which season of Batwoman is the best is like being forced to choose your favorite bucket of shit.

21:53 it hasn’t been cancelled or renewed.

You should review Naomi, it's haleriously bad.

Soo we going ignore the fact , the black joker was basically Killmonger from black panther

Look I know that Season 3 is an improvement I'm not going to lie,but like I said before and I will say it again,this Series existence cut wounds so deep that it's too little too late,Characters like Ryan and Jetta makes alot of dumb,terrible,and questionable choices that it's insulting and talk about Like Mother Like Daughter,Luke is the Meg and Moxxie of the Series being a Little B$#@t Boy,Alice has no Reason to be there anymore that it makes the Tom Cavina Reverse Flash appearing more memorable,Mary is in my opinion the worst Character in the Series other than Kate and Jacob of how dangerous and immature she acts that her having Powers of Poison Ivy that it literally feels like a knockoff of Flash Season 3 of Killer Frost makes the Character much worse than before,Sofie was a Detective that became a actual Person on the Streets that I can't Write,Rene started good until it was revealed her History with Pamela Issley made her as unlikable as the Birds of Prey Movie and I hate that Movie,Poison Ivy started good but this Show destroyed her Character and instead of arresting her or putting her in ARGUS they put her Free on a Island of Sexist People that should have been Burned out,the Replacement Villains feels insulting to the Originals,and making Marcus a Version of the Joker not only did it made Jetta insane of not putting him in Arkham or possibly in ARGUS for CRYING OUT LOUD after he killed off his Father but NOTHING WORKS WITH HIM,there's alot of problems I don't even know were to begin with,all in all this Series is pure Garbage that I will take the Words of HeelsvsBabyface and Thorias Ultimate makes alot of sense that it's one of the worst Series I ever seen other than Titans and many more and I hope and pray that the Series gets One Final Nail in the Coffin,by the way Great Video G.I. Gio and I would look forward to your Flash Armageddon Video,wish you the best of Luck.

I Enjoy the show i do not mind the problems

Who is that Jerome wannabe????

Short answer... Fuck no! 🤣 Thankfully it's all over now.

I'll give you that season 3 structure started better than season 2 and 1 but it's still bat woman so it's still garbage

well... maybe "good" is not the word, because we tend to use it wrongly instead of "better than" (season 1 and 2) XD

The answer is no.