Is Breeding Shrimp For Profit Finished? - The Price Crash in Neocaridinas & Why + Some Hope.

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@GeorgeFarmerStudios 3 года назад

Hey Alex, new subscriber here! I really enjoy your objective approach to the hobby. Keep up the good work. 🙌

@rosiesneed6188 3 года назад

The market has probably reached the saturation point. The number of people willing to pay higher prices for nicer shrimp is limited. I saw this back when I bred and sold leopard geckos. A leopard gecko that sold for $500 at a reptile show over ten years ago now sells for $30.00 at Petco. (Or even cheaper when on sale.)

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Totally.

@shelbyrorrer404 3 года назад

As a consumer who loves shrimp but has fish that also love shrimp, I like that the neocaridina shrimp are becoming lower priced because it's not as much of a loss if my fish snacks on one.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Well I understand that 100%. I too like that they have come way down in price, but im just sad the domestic breeders aren't feasibly making profit at 3 bucks a shrimp... and I'll happily pay more for a healthy line and genetically clean of defects line.. but if you don't intend on breeding and or selling, then the cheaper ones are understandably more desirable

@TravDoc Год назад

Would love to see this video revisited after another year of pandemic! New hobbyist and absolutely loving it, don't expect to make much money, but hoping to do my best to breakeven and continue growing to do what I'm loving.

@Fishtory Год назад

I will revise the topic in December when I give my anual forecast for the hobby. Also now we can use vivvy.com which is a huge game changer on the price we can get instead of wholesale to lfs

@pokeview8252 Год назад

Would love to hear about the market today (2022) as well. I just started my blue dream shrimp and hoping to sell them locally in nyc

@raygv1 3 года назад

Maybe plants are something people should look at if they are trying to supplement their income. I took clippings from a 15 gallon cube from my bi weekly trimming instead of throwing them out. And I was expecting a few dollars at best. But I got nearly 15 dollars from clippings! Now I’m seeing dollar signs becaue I got grow out totes choked with plants but I don’t want to saturate the pet store with plants I want them paying high because the plant tanks were empty probably because of the pandemic.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Yes. I have a whole series on breeding and growing for profit, and plants are what I recommend for your average hobbyist trying to get store credit or save up to buy more equipment in the hobby

@mikaeldickinson6808 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing. I at least know what I can expect to get for my shrimp.

@thefishwitch2137 3 года назад

I still sell about 100 every 3 weeks or so, helps pay for some food and stuff

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Nice! How big of tanks or how many are you using to pump out that many shrimp a month?

@thefishwitch2137 3 года назад

@@Fishtory I have about 2 ten gallons for cherry shrimp, I'm currently building up yellow and orange colonies to begin selling in a few months. I breed guppies, Mystery snails, Cory cats and occasionally Malawi cichlids.

@MiniProBro 2 года назад

@@thefishwitch2137 do you breed guppys and shrimp in same tank??

@knyghtryder3599 3 года назад

When will we all start breeding those jumbo Thai river prawns ? Or native great lakes cray fish in super chilled enourmous tubs ??

@Fishtory 3 года назад

I'm game... let's tackle a challenge lol

@jamesmclamb3682 3 года назад

Just after this last Christmas, I bought a 5 gallon betta tank for my desktop. I wanted to do live plants as well and added two cherry shrimp. Now, five months later, I have three Fluval Flex tanks (two 15s and one 32 gallon) and probably 60 or more cherry shrimp. It all started with the two I bought in January. Definitely no need to buy any. If I get much more, I'll probably look to give them away.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Right on the good old multiple tank syndrome lol. We've all been there! But nice work with the shrimp

@brandonmack6827 Год назад

It’s starting the exact same way for me

@Kday-tm8dj 3 года назад

The scuds I ordered with your code came in! Thank you so much.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Oh right on! I'm so glad that they finally started selling them as per all our channel's request

@meikahidenori Месяц назад

There is at least one advantage to a cull/skittle collection of shrimp - they tend to have better genetics as they're not selectively bred (or are no longer part of a selective line) and are great for beginners to make mistakes with. While I think pure lines are great, I find I have the most healthy shrimp in my skittles lot than any other tank😅

@Fishtory Месяц назад

Very true. Thank you

@Anamink 3 года назад

I've had pretty bad luck with neocaridinas, but man I LOVE babaultis. I'm currently keeping both zebra and green and if you can get them to survive shipping they are extremely hardy. I especially love the color variation--my zebras stay mostly clear but one is red-tinged all over and my biggest (and berried) female has a rusty stripe down her back, while the green babaultis are everything from light green to dark green to orange to one who's brown with a bright green stripe. Not the species for someone who wants uniform color in their shrimp, but I think they're awesome :) I would love to see more of the babaulti varieties start becoming available in the US--I'd find room for another tank just to start breeding some more of them, haha.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Oh I agree 100% If you can get them into your tank for a week, they are bulletproof haha... you may lose a batch or two first though, If you're new to shrimp. I think we all need to work on these other species and lines...work on their health and color alike

@aquariumplantman 3 года назад

Love my shrimps... Blue dreams and CRS are my favorite.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

I can definitely see why

@richardmaccarthy101 3 года назад

Pete I'm rolling the purple dice in a blue dream/red cherry mixed tank -- it will not work, but it will be fun!

@aquariumplantman 3 года назад

@@richardmaccarthy101 best of luck 🤞, LRB seems to think it’s possible.

@JUNAID187 3 года назад

There are a lot of restrictions on importing fish currently due to limited flights so many import facilities are ordering a lot of shrimp instead to make up for the lack of fish. You get over 1000 shrimp per bag so it makes sense if you have a lot of empty tanks at your facility. I work at a import facility and they are ordering a lot more shrimp because of this reason and had to cut prices to compete with other importers.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Totally. Are you in the USA? and is it mostly neocadina species/ lines and crystal red/blacks, amanos?

@JUNAID187 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Yep usa. And mainly those kinds of common shrimps. Retail stores are offering local breeders less money per shrimp now because they can get them even cheaper from wholesalers.

@dougm275 3 года назад

Are dwarf chain loaches bred in Thailand? I really screwed up not grabbing more when I had the chance.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

They're bred domestically, caught wild and bred in Indonesia/ Thailand... pretty common and easy to breed luckily

@dougm275 3 года назад

@@Fishtory I really hope the place I got my last group isn't wild-caught.

@brushitoff503 3 года назад

G'day mate! How do you catch the shrimp when your'e doing a cull without pulling the tank apart? Have you done a video on that? Cheers buddy great video!

@Mae-nr7wr Год назад

supply and demand, once the market is saturated the price stabilizes. im sure just like with almost any product out there its still profitable for the large scale producers/breeders but not as much for smaller ones

@trogdordog04smith95 3 года назад

4 shizzle

@Fishtory 3 года назад

My fishizzle

@mpike2424 3 года назад

I am glad you posted the video with King of Diy or I never would have found you. I have watched a few of you video so far and really like your content. Now you Re on the list with Aquarium Co-op. Thanks for the great info

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Well I guess some good came from it then lol. Glad to hear you enjoy the content. Aquarium coops older tutorials are still what I tell most folks to watch if they're new in the hobby. I miss the education element ...once you get deeper into the hobby. I know it's not content that is "where the money is at" per say... but its what I love, and slowly more and more folks seem to also be feeling the same urge to further the hobby. Please share anything you think is relevant to any video...or correct me if I got something wrong. We are all about learning, so welcome to the community!

@rainbowaviator7096 3 года назад

Hey alex, I was wondering if you could give me some advice- i have a 9gal tank that is a couple years old that used to be a snail only tank- i ended up adding 10 blue dream shrimp to start a colony (pond snails and one black devil spike snail were the only inhabitants). When i got the shrimp I also got new plants for my tank- unfortunately they brought scuds with them. I also have wanted to try a betta fish, so I purchased a second 5 gallon tank with the hopes to move the shrimp there after it had cycled. So of course after a month or so of growing, i added some of the plants to this new, cycling tank- and thats when i noticed the scuds for the first time. :( second 5 gallon tank was near the end of its cycle too! My 9gallon has at least 4 berried females and one has given birth. Im afraid for my shrimplets as ive read conflicting info online, but i dont want to take chances. I stripped the 5 gallon cycling tank of all plants and substrate- dosed ammonia and im going to see if any of the bb are alive in the filter media but i know ill most likely have to start from scratch. Once the new tank is ready i plan to net as many shrimp as I can to transfer over. If you were me, and planned on having the betta in the 9 gallon anyway, would you bother tearing apart the old tank to exterminate the scuds or would a single betta be able to safely regulate the population? Im not a fan of the aesthetics of scuds but if it would provide enrichment and was possible to be controlled, i would be open to the idea of keeping them. Feeling conflicted right now about what to do, but for now I can only watch for my shrimplets and hope the new tank is ready ASAP. Also invested in the shrimp back in march, with hopes to eventually sell all the color lines after starting with blue!! Looks like Ill have to switch gears. Id love to breed betta but have nowhere near the space for it!! Maybe I can still turn the blues into some pocket change for more hobby stuff, at least! Thanks for all you do!

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Definitely only sell to hobbyists and just work on quality, shrimp consistency and you should be able to sell them for 5 to 7 bucks to hobbyists probably. As for scuds...if the shrimp tank doesn't have babies, you may just take out the Adults and kill the scuds... however betta will eat scuds and baby shrimp at a similar rate...so you may want a dragon micro goby or small trio to 5 small rasboras to clear out the scuds

@rainbowaviator7096 3 года назад

@@Fishtory unfortunately it does have babies in it already, ive only spotted a hanful but im afraid the others are all about to give birth as well :( if i get an airstone and a bucket could i perhaps quarantine the shrimp there? Ill see if the ammonia is converted tomorrow morning, if im lucky enough to have preserved the bb maybe ill try moving a nonberried shrimp over... fingers crossed!!

@TheMarcDonato 2 года назад

great video. would love to see more caridina species videos.

@Fishtory 2 года назад

I have about 20 or 30 if you browse through my videos and or my shrimp breeding playlist :) also some unboxings with info on various lines. Cheers!

@TheMarcDonato 2 года назад

@@Fishtory Thanks for that! im breeding some high quality shadow panda currently, so I love new info and stuff. thanks for the videos.

@DolbecAqua 3 года назад

other intresting thing; most people won't really care about specific lines of shrimp. I see it already at my LFS where they only hold skittle tanks

@VinylUnboxings 3 года назад

You think they just sell em all before they have any breeding behavior?

@DolbecAqua 3 года назад

@@VinylUnboxings that's also highly possible, they sell them so fast. Most of the time they are too young/small for my taste. Wish I could get some red cherry males to get my colony going again

@docyukiohattori 3 года назад

@@VinylUnboxings they might buy a grab-bag to begin with. i wouldn't think highly of any store that gets a separate batch each of red and blue shrimp and then keeps them together.

@FIVE_WORLDS 3 года назад

Man I wouldn’t buy shrimp from a mixed tank because who the heck knows where the lines are at.

@-8_8- 3 года назад

@@VinylUnboxings don't bet on it.

@shesellsfish 3 года назад

I have yet to see any shrimp other than the ghost shrimp for sale in the box stores in NC. You make a very good point, if anybody is going into shrimp keeping with any idea of selling off extras, invest the money into a proven high grade line that breeds true. You cannot beat the best genetics to start out with and maintain. 👍💓👍

@Fishtory 3 года назад

100% I'm curious if people are still paying 5 to 10 dollars per neocaridina in your area? In seattle it keeps getting lower and lower

@shesellsfish 3 года назад

@@Fishtory If they are buying them from reputable hobbyists yes, if off e-bay with questionable quality, no. But most folks that I know personally want quality shrimp so they are still willing to pay top dollar. I don't know if that will change if ths big box stores start stocking neos on a regular basis. But to be fair and objective those that I know are other fish and shrimp nerds who aren't going to buy sicky mixed shrimp from a big box store no matter how low the price.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

@@shesellsfish so petco and petsmart stock then routinely in seattle...they're usually good color but low grade health and blotchy or just malnourished. But they still for 3.99 on sales for red higher grader cherry to 2.99 for mixed colors that are "shrimpy" in size , and then 6.99 to 9.99 for blue rili or other more unusual color lines... but they're buying em all from Asia and at 50 cents or less wholesale

@christopherventura9244 2 года назад

I live in NC as well I’ve seen petsmart Blue Velvets and Cherries for $6 each one and mark them as fancies I was actually looking on breeding myself because I love them but also plan to go to college soon and I’d like some side money as well while working still

@agnediciuniene9861 Год назад

That is why when I want something really expensive, I tell myself - I will wait for few years and see, maybe they will become affordable

@Fishtory Год назад

Truth

@FIVE_WORLDS 3 года назад

I really dislike my LFS they have terrible stock, prices, and equipment. They sell used tanks marked up higher than retail!! You’re absolutely right about neos Alex, he sells shrimp for $4-5 each and only want to give 50 cent credit for PFR shrimp. Jokes on him when I turn around and sell them for $2 each. Everyone is in a race to the bottom with neos currently.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Yeah that's just it...race to the bottom sadly (well for those of us who bred good lines)

@justpassingthrough9887 3 года назад

My amanno shrimp are actually the ones that are thriving and breeding on their own at my house (freshwater with a natural 9gh (second to the softest in Utah))... it's the others who are dragging their feet... so to speak. With my others, I have to buy them already berried to get any fry. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. 💚

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Whoa your amannos are surviving? Or just giving birth and not surviving more than a week or so? I've never seen amanno raised in fresh water and would love to know what you're doing if that's the case hehe

@veneshpillay2988 3 года назад

You may have ghost shrimp that you think are amano. Amano can not breed in fresh water,

@chrisdalacker4327 Год назад

Amanos don’t breed in freshwater

@gonemad8008 3 года назад

Here in the Chicagoland area there are only a few shops that have shrimp and only one consistently. Prices are always high.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Hmm interesting. But do they pay breeders high prices? Or just buy Asian wholesale and pocket more profit

@gonemad8008 3 года назад

@@Fishtory i don't think they buy wholesale. My LFS gets his from a few local people.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

@@gonemad8008 well that's awesome and rare now

@Muppet92954 3 года назад

Interesting stuff 👍

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Thanks for tuning in!

@TheBrizzle Год назад

what variety of moss is growing on the driftwood?

@cosmoplakat9549 3 года назад

My yellow shrimp population is getting pretty good now. I'll probably have to donate some soon - little hope of selling to my LFS, but maybe 50 cents a piece max if they did purchase. My two remaining blue bolt caridinas (that I know of) have molted and turned almost all white. They are actually pretty cool looking and I hope to see babies some day.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Right on...yeah ask for a buck store credit (then it cost then 33 cents or so to purchase them and you also come out 50 cents ahead from a cash price?)

@remhk6672 3 года назад

Wouldn't you make more selling on ebay than the LFS? It's like you're selling at wholesale price to the LFS.

@ramiroraygoza281 3 года назад

Okay so I literally just set up my tank today to cycle for Neocaridinas and I was planning to get the Red Onyx line. Do you recommend I just get straight into Caridina shrimp? And if possible which direction should I go if I’m treating this as an investment but Ofcourse out of enjoyment as well?

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Onyx are a safe new bet still I think

@nicholaskeyler7397 3 года назад

Dude I love this video! Subscribed!!

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Glad to hear it. Welcome to the channel, and please feel free to inform me of anything you know about, if I make mistakes or didn't cover something. Y'all viewers keep me learning every day

@sixionzear6329 9 месяцев назад

It’s nice that more people are being able to afford getting into shrimp. But at the same time it saddens me to see people say they actively intend on crashing the market for shrimp by selling for a few cents.

@Fishtory 9 месяцев назад

Its over seas wholesalers usually

@andrelang7370 3 года назад

Mixing Cherries with Yellow Neos turns out a pattern and color that resembles tiny Bamboo shrimp. Like tiny shoots of bamboo or grass. Not the most stable pattern but still cool. I like them a lot and am surprised I haven't seen more neocaridina like them. I think more "natural" color patterns would be cool to see after seeing so many bright "unnatural" colors.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

I totally agree. Aquatic Arts has started selling wild shoko and tan lines also...so clean genetics to play with is pretty neat

@samuelcontreras9248 Год назад

Good info.

@Fishtory Год назад

Covid has changed some things too, but I think wholesale shrimp selling is a dead end with neocaridina specifically . Only big outdoor farms will work for making profit with them. But if it's fun to breed and it brings some store credit, then go for it heh

@jfusion4375 7 месяцев назад

Do you still sell cherry shrimp? I want to start a tank but want a good line to start with.

@RedrumTV5150 Год назад

I have a planted 10gal with a betta, 4 neons, snails, and 2 Cory's ,and was wondering if shrimp would survive with the betta in the tank...🤔

@Fishtory Год назад

With enough hiding places...yes. but the babies are probably going to mostly be eaten by the 3 month mark, before theyre big enough to survive attacks

@jmizzonini Год назад

I have an extremely docile male betta who lives in a 5gal with shrimp , they’re breeding and he doesn’t mess with them at all! I think the only way to find out is to try it since bettas temperament varies so much

@jonathanliapis8048 3 года назад

What are those little fish with the pointy black fins? They looks amazing

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Rainbowfish threadfins! They're awesome little fish when they are spawning like that

@zachrohr4712 Год назад

Yea I have a hard time finding shrimp and if it isn't a big box store they charge a lot.

@222killawhale2 3 года назад

That is a really beautiful tank! I appreciate you so very much and I hope you are well with all my heart!

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Aww you are far too kind. But rhwnn you and I hope you have an excellent evening

@222killawhale2 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Here in beautiful Boulder Colorado, rili shrimp sell for 9.99 each at PetCo. They just call them fancy shrimp lol. Aqua Imports is my LFS and they sell, for example, orange rili for 3.50, crystals for 9.99, but they sometimes have super cool rare shrimp periodically for a pretty reasonable price. About the same as aquatic arts. Like they just had purple crystal Taiwan bees. Pretty rad!

@Noobish_Camper55 Год назад

I can't even find cherry shrimp in stores anymore. I had to order online for $4 a shrimp. Gonna try selling some once their babies drop.

@Fishtory Год назад

Best of luck. If you live outside a large city, you can still probably get an ok price

@obryan240 3 года назад

I separated the pregnant females from my feeder shrimp from a Tacoma area store to try and breed but never saw any youngsters. Guessing the feeder guppies i tried doing the same with ate them. Plenty of baby guppies now.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Well at least you sorted that out now

@aquariuminsider730 3 года назад

Great video man! Definitely agree. Hard to compete with imports. We’ve bough shrimp out of Taiwan ( mostly the common neos) and put them in here on our farm in FL. Pretty good results so far, but we are working on it.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Thanks for the feed back and info- essentially Confirming what I've been hearing

@aquariuminsider730 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Getting them here landed in a time of COVID, is insane. Cancelled flights or the freight is so expensive due to lack of available flights, not to mention all of your other fees and costs associated, I think even with imports, domestic growers can be profitable selling to the retail store level. It just requires maybe a little more volume than a few tanks and a few different kinds to provide that variety. I’m hopeful we could see a new wave of domestic growers of a lot of species, but it comes with a lot of challenges.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Could be true. I think another issue is when prices go up... people generally keep the markup the same ...when prices go down...they will let the mark up increase some ...so maybe shrimp dropped from 3 bucks wholesale 9 retail but if wholesale goes to 50 cents...it won't ever be 150 retail .... so if a store is honestly pro-local breeders... there definitely is meat left on the bone for us breeders, due to the reasons you stated.

@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 3 года назад

I believe that the biggest hindrance to the hobby in the U.S. is wages. If people got paid enough we would be able to actually make money off fish and raise the price. Also we need to (as a society) have standards as to where/how we get stuff. Like don't get stuff made by forced labor or a corp who's owners makes hundreds more than the actual workers. We need to demand companies be more like aquarium co-op

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Agreed 100% 👍

@007longboarder 3 года назад

The first part of your argument is counterintuitive. Raising prices when people get paid more will prevent people from buying. It's basically keeping things the same as they are now if you do that. The last part of your statement I'd agree with.

@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 3 года назад

@@007longboarder if you raise the price of things with the increase in wages it is effectively no change. In the US the problem is things like housing and healthcare costs. And statistically it doesn't make people stop buying, raising the price makes people care for them more tho and I'm all for that. I'd rather neons be like $5 but they almost never die and live long bc of how we'd breed them and care for them, and BE ABLE TO care for them

@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 3 года назад

@@007longboarder it decreases the difference between the cost of living and the cost of goods allowing people to spend more on goods without effectively spending more

@007longboarder 3 года назад

@@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 I have no issues with spending more for higher quality. What I'm proposing is that if costs remain the same people could buy more and/or higher quality when they receive higher wages. The problem with raising the prices on items when people make more is that people will still be unable to enter the hobby. As an example, look at college tuition costs. Colleges realize that students are either receiving tuitions or willing to take out more loans. Therefore they've increased the cost of earning a degree without effectively changing the quality of said degree. I know this may be apples and oranges but my point is that people who are trying to buy shrimp/fish will still be unable to do so with cost increases just like students who go to college will be unable to pay or paying debt well after and effectively no better off.

@ShadySheev 3 года назад

I would invest into Sulawesi-shrimp. Species like Caridina dennerli, C. spinata, C. woltereckae and C. striata for example look like fancy marine shrimp and sell for around 15€ here in Germany.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

If we could find those species in the USA, I would agree 100% lol its sad how far behind Europe & Asian Markets we are.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Lots to look forward too then!

@ShadySheev 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Exactly :-) Lots of potential for commercialization as well. There's a line of minerals and trace elements available here in Germany to add to the water of Sulawesi-shrimp for example. If one would come up with a sort of complete aquarium set for these shrimp and their special care requirements it might become a really good seller.

@sipbipmip7381 3 года назад

Where did you get the malawa shrimp?

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Aquaticarts.com has them sometimes. So sometimes that's the main place. Then Also one other line from a German based fish club speaking circuit group buy

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Aquatic arts and a guest speaker at our fishclub that brought them to Seattle years ago (a local shop aquarium zen has the line also)

@omarfejzic2981 3 года назад

Wow here I was ready to buy some neocaridina but *shrug* I might check some other shrimp out instead

@omarfejzic2981 3 года назад

Also interesting to see my local big box store ship in their shrimp for the first time. I actually got ahead of them and got them before they put them in their nasty water.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Oh nice!

@closaquatics9430 3 года назад

I have a few places that will take $0.50 to $1/shrimp direct to a store or someone who else who moves higher quantities direct for really basic quality (slightly better than sakura) - but they are retailing at about $5.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Yeah it depends on the area too. But selling them to stores is not a good way to make any money these days

@closaquatics9430 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Yeah, its just hard to find people and connect to sell to others locally... Otherwise stuck shipping. Best cost /profit is selling locally, than shipping.

@whodidit99 2 года назад

Good analysis. The market was stupid high. Maybe the prices are more in line with reality.

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Hope so

@RR-gc6dp 2 года назад

Can I buy a few culls for my daughters tank. She likes colorful shrimp but will not be breeding.

@artquatics3865 2 года назад

I live in Canada and see people charging minimum $6 up to $16 for neocardina shrimp. Living in the maritimes there isn’t a lot of selection for shrimp so you are forced to buy within those price ranges. Meaning selling shrimp for profit is still a viable option here at least. But you do have a point and I’m starting to see these bulk retailers hitting the market with $3 shrimp for a super high grade shrimp. (Although with diseases).

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Interesting! Thanks for sharing what your local market prices are like. Cheers

@sj_leee4995 3 года назад

This video was really interesting. Im a new shrimp keeper and I started out 2 months ago with 20 blue dream shrimp in a 10 gallon and now i might have 60+ including babies. im not planning on breeding for profit but once i get way too many shrimp maybe ill put them up for sale locally online and see what happens.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

That's the best attitude at this point for sure. You may make some money, but the market it shifting so much, if you add the time and food, utilities etc then who knows where things break even lately

@tomhalf3018 2 года назад

If you're in Australia our shrimp stores are absolutely bare that I'm selling culls to local to lfs for $2 ea and $5 for blue dreams and fire reds and their sold for $12+ Don't think Australia is allowing them to be imported at the moment, so me a bloke with less than 100gallons of fishtanks is making a nice side income every 2 weeks.

@marypaigeflynn4512 3 года назад

So sorry I missed the live tonight!! Well whatever's going on in the shrimp world, I really enjoy my shrimp😁 I have red , black, orange and blue in the same tub!! I know I need to separate them, but I'm just thankful that I have a good colony now!! Future project will be separating them back out and getting the lines straight!! One good thing about it is I added three different colonies of shrimp.. some came from aquahuna, some came from LRB(Lucas) and some came from Ro Ro's Aquatics I still have three great lines showing in my tub. Lots of color for sure and quality shrimp. I can say however I haven't gone into trade any in yet with an LFS.. I really wanted to get them started the right way.. I do have a guy in Kentucky who said he would buy them from me, so we'll just have to see how it plays out!! Thanks for the Stream!! Have a great night everyone!!🙏🌿🐟🌿🦐🌿💚

@nathanwhughes Год назад

Interestingly I can sell regular old low grade cherry shrimp for $4 all day long in my area when I post them up I usually sell out in 48hrs our petcos and PetSmarts sell them for $9 still so I probably could raise my price a little but I'm happy with what I make. Northeast Oklahoma area

@nathanwhughes Год назад

I know this is a year old video but I could have sold them for even more during the COVID years they were hard to find. I didn't have a colony built up back then sadly but I was buying and paying 10 per shrimp

@Fishtory Год назад

Yeah every area is different for sure. It goes in waves too. But wholesale prices out of asia are down to the 50 cent or so mark...and its hard to beat that selling to shops. I know the cost of everything has gone up, but i feel like people in the fish biz kinda padded prices over the lock down...and instead of 3 to 5x profit...i see up to 8 or 9x profit regularly

@KamotoSam 3 года назад

Another great interesting video. The eBay prices on shrimps are way cheaper too btw

@Fishtory 3 года назад

100%... if you trust the seller.. aquabid, ebay, Craigslist or get gills are all great spots

@pendlera2959 3 года назад

What is the yellow and black striped thing at 18:23?

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Kuhli loach?

@pendlera2959 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Now that I can see it on a desktop, it looks like an empty shell. I've never seen one with that pattern before.

@donkeykongisbetterthanmari7495 3 года назад

try to get your hands on something that isn’t the average neo; you may find something that will be cheap but rack in a lot.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

That is indeed the summary haha

@marksmith566 3 года назад

This was interesting Alex, I just setup 3 x 5 gallon shrimp tanks (red, blue & yellow). My main focus is I just enjoy keeping all things aquatic but in the back of my mind I was also thinking it’d be nice to sell say 10 of each a month just to go towards my Tank addiction!!! I’m in the UK and shrimp at retail are around £5 each and privately they sell for around £2 each. Great vlog as always Sir 👍

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Ahh, well good luck and I just suggest getting 50 or so in your colony so that monthly they have a hundred babies or so (that survive)...if the colony is too small they can collapse but too dense and they stop having as many young

@Aquadiction 3 года назад

This is very true, I'm in the UK about two years ago we were happy to pay £80 for a good line on e-bay but they go for about £20 now, though MANY a time we have brought e-bay shrimp the next generation is 80% mutts.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Sad to hear that it is also the case in Europe and the UK. hopefully the abundance of diversity in shrimp species will help the next phase of trying new color morphs from new species etc. (Germany, Czech rep. And The Dutch are so far ahead of the USA as far as variety and quality go)

@Aquadiction 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Thanks for the reply and sorry for the slow response (life, eh); we just subbed on this account but have you subbed on our bedroom TV under a different account which is where we watch your stuff normally (not in a weird way). tot Agree with you; tbh our skittles tank is our favourite shrimp tank, so much variation :) Side note, we have a website aquadiction.world. If you ever get bored and want to contribute an article or species profile or even correct anything already published there, give us a shout we would provide full credit and also embed a video of your choice that may help you grow your channel; we have just shy of 15k users/visit the site per month (not a lot but growing month on month), so it might be worth considering if you're ever up for that, or not, regardless take care; we love this channel and have for the past year and a half since we discovered you dude!

@jc49fishniner4lif7 3 года назад

Hi Alex here in El Paso Texas I'm trading lots of red 🦐 shrimps for store 💳 credit so can get supplies at least 🤔

@Fishtory 3 года назад

That's great if it works out for you guys in South West Texas! Thanks for sharing

@plantsandfish5512 3 года назад

🔥

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Burn baby burn dsico (bee shrimp) inferno!

@VinylUnboxings 3 года назад

It's time to short the Cherry Reds and go full in on Dwarf Orange Crayfish 😤😤

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Haha agreed

@wtf1a1a 3 года назад

lmk when u can turn them from orange to red

@VinylUnboxings 3 года назад

@@wtf1a1a Do you have any ethical issues with the Kool-Aid bath technique?

@wtf1a1a 3 года назад

@@VinylUnboxings will it breed true red?

@VinylUnboxings 3 года назад

@@wtf1a1a I'm just messing around unfortunately, I wouldn't really know how to go about doing it. Although have you seen the Aquarium CoOp vid where Corey visits the breeder in Texas and he said he made these fish start showing red by feeding them cherry shrimp culls? You could try using Flourite red or red play sand and only feeding them dead cherry shrimp, bloodworms and occasional red fruits and then just selectively breed the individuals that responded most to your diet and maybe you could start seeing some red expression. But really I have no idea what I'm talking about.

@MrGrombie 3 года назад

I will be working on tubs with mine. Don’t worry. We have Florida water on our side with the hardness from the aquifer. We just need more Floridians to be breeding them. Lol

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Nice yeah they can thrive down there ...it just sometimes takes losing a few at first...but generation 2 will be super hearty

@MrGrombie 3 года назад

@@Fishtory I am already on gen 6 of mine now. You should see my colony now. If you are on discord, I can send you some invites and you can maybe also join up with some other fish keepers in a dedicated forum. :)

@paloaltoniner4816 3 года назад

Hey I just moved to Florida and am starting to keep shrimp. What kind do you have and would you be interested in selling any? I live in Groveland.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

I'm on father fishes discord...and aquarium guys podcast...im kicking around the idea of starting one also

@MrGrombie 3 года назад

@@paloaltoniner4816 if you're willing to drive to me? IG MrGrombie

@johngreer7556 3 года назад

The colored shrimp in north Texas are crap 90% in the stores tanks are dead.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Well thanks for filling me in on the situation down there. Sorry to hear that though

@chrisdalacker4327 Год назад

Have never seen shrimp for sale in store for under 7$

@Fishtory Год назад

Depends where you live.... down in florida they were as cheap as 3 dollars RETAIL... wholesale the neos are 25 to 50 cents now days

@motoglows Год назад

in my local store in Canada the shrimp are 10 dollars each so expensive and people buy them because there are not much stores in my area.

@zachrohr4712 Год назад

Hey personally where I live in Ohio you know I have to drive about an hour to go to a non PetSmart petland lalala and I never see shrimp and if I do somebody at PetSmart that works there got them.

@Fishtory Год назад

True but now you can go online and get them fairly cheap

@ricodegallo3060 3 года назад

👍

@jaderainhans9095 Год назад

is growing thousand of them in a pool consider large scale?

@Fishtory Год назад

Indeed. What my garden of Eder visit. They have 16,000 gallon pool and 55 - 300 gallon IBC totes all with shrimp lines in each

@FancyTailAquatics 3 года назад

Good stuff Alex! Thanks.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Thanks for tuning in! cheers!

@AlecWatson-sj6mi Год назад

I like tutles

@jaderainhans9095 Год назад

so is red or yellow ghost shrmp rare?

@Fishtory Год назад

Yes

@smiles4u2have 3 года назад

How do you keep your angelfish from eating the shrimp?! My angels have decimated my shrimp colony (that was going so well :( )

@Fishtory 3 года назад

The malawa shrimp reproduce so fast that it doesn't matter with a few young angels or cichlids

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Sorry to hear about your shrimp though.... neocaridina are so easy for fish to see, also

@smiles4u2have 3 года назад

@@Fishtory the ones that have survived have gone from bright colors to muted and blend in well with the rocks. I'm sad I can't watch them anymore though. Going to try some with my daughters Betta tank when we get it fully upgraded and settled. Bad advice for newbies have him in a 2.5 gallon. Starting to cycle a 5 gallon this week. He has a clear shrimp friend he doesn't care about so we think he won't mind others

@armouredjester1622 3 года назад

@@smiles4u2have my Betta killed off every blue shrimp I put with him, but he doesn't mind the red ones Be aware that Bettas are weird little fish.

@Aquatica87Heaven 3 года назад

Things haven’t changed much in the North East area.

@michaelharvey8581 3 года назад

I can't find any shrimp locally big box Missouri Washington

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Go to like petco and request that they order them... its a matter if the fish dept. Manager wanting to order them...and some are super lazy or scared of shrimp since they don't know how to Cafe for them

@jordanbabcock9349 3 года назад

Within an hour drive any direction I might find 3 amano shrimp for $10-$12 and maybe a small yellow-ish or small reddish shrimp for $7-$10.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Where do you live?

@jordanbabcock9349 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Kansas.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

@@jordanbabcock9349 those are still decent prices (for a breeder) to sell person to person. Still hard to sell to stores...but 2 dollars a shrimp is way better than less than a buck here in seattle

@alancarter9471 3 года назад

Of course I see this after investing time and money. Looks like my dream of quitting my day job is over. Coral propagation was too expensive, and there's a billion guppies. I wish I could have monetized my finding that you could convert live bearing fish to saltwater. Maybe I'll play around with trying to convert these. Lol. Not likely.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Perhaps the secondary reproduction species that only spawn in salt water... look up how amanos are being bred in captivity ...I bet you could copy that

@survivalofthefishiest 3 года назад

The Painted Fire Red I got from Aquatic Arts are beautiful and healthy :)

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Right on! Mine as well hehe

@HeadHoncho727 3 года назад

Price drop?! Where? A single shrimp can cost anywhere between 10-18+ dollars STILL. For ONE. I have yet to see price drops

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Where do you live?

@Fishtory 3 года назад

18 dollars for a cherry shrimp?!

@Curtis.StMartin 3 года назад

I just wish mine would live.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

I know how that goes... try some different species maybe? Malawa or babaultis or tigers? They may do better in your water

@Curtis.StMartin 3 года назад

@@Fishtory I set up my shrimp tank exactly how Flip Aquatics did on one of their videos. That was about 10 months ago. I've spent over $500 in shrimp. I have purchased them from Aquatic Arts Aqua Huna and numerous places in between. I was at a small LFS yesterday and came across another customer who raises shrimp. The store the customer and myself are all within 5 blocks of each other. I told the customer about ALL my water parameters and he said everything I did was correct and couldn't understand why my shrimp don't survive. This is so frustrating when I see all these tanks full of shrimp. I'm lucky to get 3 months in out of any shrimp. I can get about 6 months out of Amano shrimp that I put in my other tanks.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Man that's crazy. I'm sorry to hear that. Have you bought an API copper or nickel test? Copper kills shrimp in the 1 in 1,000,000 parts concentrations... even pipes can leach enough in rare cases

@mr.monitor. Год назад

Definitely cannot find those shrimp for 1.00 where I live.

@Fishtory Год назад

Yeah it's so different depending on location... but I'm speaking what the pet shops pay

@rsousaaquarios 3 года назад

I believe you're right. it doesn't compensate to breed shrimp for profit anymore

@wtf1a1a 3 года назад

have you ever thought of talking with Kevin Novak Ph.D.? he has a youtube channel as well and i think u might like his plenum videos

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Yes I've spoken with him quite a bit . I may have him on the channel some day, but his own channel and lectures cover the tppic far better than any short from interview might

@wtf1a1a 3 года назад

@@Fishtory indeed, I was picturing u and him having a talk like Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan

@sugarbabie1681 3 года назад

Well if anyone is having trouble off loading/selling shrimp im buying any culls an all. For my 125gallon

@Fishtory 3 года назад

What part of the country are you in? Local folks tend to raise heartier shrimp for your parameters

@sugarbabie1681 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Texas but its a 3 hour drive there an back for any fish store. Not as easy as helping others who have to many an can't sell them.

@COOPERSCICHILDS 3 года назад

Great video I love to learn excellent job 👏👍🏿

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@cg7223 3 года назад

Hope your doing well today bro

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Doing great. Thank you. Right back at you, also

@fishtropiccanada4747 3 года назад

I like my baby boy blues and demon blues shrimps the best !!!! Fishaziod fishaziod

@pitgod1059 Год назад

Market goes down here goes up somewhere else you gotta adapt

@Fishtory Год назад

Yup

@idio-syncrasy 9 месяцев назад

If you mix red, yellow, blue and green shrimp can you get tartan shrimp? 😉

@Fishtory 9 месяцев назад

Lol ask Mark's shrimps...he's a Scotsman haha

@whodidit99 2 года назад

Is inbreeding a problem? I was producing hundreds of red cherry shrimp every month, then after 3 yrs they stopped producing.

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Yes it can be. It doesn't matter for 4 or 5 generations but beyond that you'll sometimes see bad effects or low fertility

@MikeinEtna 3 года назад

Interesting video, thank you.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Of course. Thanks for tuning in

@sko1beer 3 года назад

The Taiwan bee price need to crash its so expensive it’s like another drug habit

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Oh for sure... they have crashed from 10 years ago lol...crystals were 40 bucks and died when you looked at them wrong

@sko1beer 3 года назад

@@Fishtory 😆👍

@TripleJAquatics 3 года назад

😶😳👍✌

@Thelostgoldhunters Год назад

IMO, it's still plenty profitable breeding shrimp , you just can't achieve the rip-off prices of yesterday... Breeding shrimp doesn't require a lot of work of work or resources...

@Fishtory Год назад

Thats true...the days of being able to make a living off anything less than wholesale huge numbers are gone, i think though

@peepslostsheep 3 года назад

Having black sand substrate, I really prefer the sky blue shrimp. Easier to see.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Yeah understandable

@streettrash4220 2 года назад

I was just at my local petco. They had “ghost shrimp” for $3.99, all dead of course, and an empty tank next to it labeled as “assorted color cherry shrimp” at $8.99 each.

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Sad

@teal_2v338 2 года назад

So market is not dead ! Its a good sign? My local pet store dont have much too! I talked to the guy and if i want i can breed them and theyll buy all of them ! Pretty exited! Much better then have to sell on market place to unknowns ..

@leatherturtle8373 3 года назад

god dammit, I literally like just got my shrimp

@Fishtory 3 года назад

They're still awesome animals and will be worth trading etc. But unless you have a really unique or special line, they likely won't be a bug PROFIT maker... they may easily pay for for hobby though

@222killawhale2 3 года назад

Same here! I just bought a tiny colony from LRB to compete with my tiny colony from Shrimpy Biz 😭 it’s still so fun and fulfilling tho ugh 🤦‍♀️

@ladydiane6839 3 года назад

Same... gold back neon yellow babies 💛 on the way.... glad I at least have a color I really like.

@alecthenice8115 3 года назад

Good shrimp and good discus are hard to find. Shops around me bring in from disease ridden farms

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Sad... I see that all too often also

@alecthenice8115 3 года назад

@@Fishtory the employees will swear to you that's how they are supposed to look and act. All they see are $$$

@frank_texas7400 2 года назад

Do not sell to the LFS they want to rip you off

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Depends on the LFS ... But these days, yes...many of them see you merely as the bottom line. If you cant beat the price of mass industrial farms, then beat it. Where as, i know one store here that will give cash for 1/3rd retail prices, or store credit for 1/2 retail . . . And because of that, i spend my money with their store more often

@WkdWnch007 2 года назад

Plural of "aquarium" is "AQUARIA". Latin. Learn it.

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Actually it is either one. This ain't (yeah, ain't is in there too now) ...1870. But IRREGAURDLESS, Perhaps I use words that get used more in search queries by those on using google, thus giving the videos higher SEO (as Google creates speech to text transcripts) for those who are non-English speakers or even those who don't know the difference. But here is the Merriam-Webster Dictionary proof that either way is correct. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aquarium

@reeffreak911 Год назад

I grow corals and it also happens the faster gowers and more availability the faster the price drop but i wish i could get cherry shrimp for 1 or 2 dollars

@Fishtory Год назад

Yeah wholesale prices are a wild thing

@brushitoff503 3 года назад

G'day mate! How do you catch the shrimp when your'e doing a cull without pulling the tank apart? Have you done a video on that? Cheers buddy great video!

@Fishtory 3 года назад

I haven't, but I just use a little net made from plastic ...not a normal fish net... they jump backwards into it, and the bottom of it hold water rather than a normal net...so they stay trapped as long as you keep it moving

@brushitoff503 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Huh, cool I reckon you should video that process, I was thinking you used a turkey baster or something ha ha