Is Dave's Snowthrower Worth Fixing Or Should He Scrap It? Teaching Apprentice Dave

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Is Dave's Snowthrower Worth Fixing Or Should He Scrap It? Teaching Apprentice Dave
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@michaelt1349 2 года назад

Time for a new friend that sold you that thing Dave. If he was the last one to use it when it threw that rod, there's no way he could have missed the massive bang that throwing the rod causes.

@ericvaughn1126 2 года назад

Agreed and I was thinking the same thing.

@DavesSmallEngines 2 года назад

Ahh - I’m not sure he knew what was wrong either, I think he bought it as a project too!

@REDMAN298 2 года назад

@@DavesSmallEngines sometimes mechanics are the biggest suckers. Don`t ask.

@mikeremski2102 2 года назад

"My buddy gave me a good deal" :)

@elcheapo5302 2 года назад

Generally if people use the proper mix of fuel in those old Toro 2 stroke snowthrowers, they run forever. I'm still using the one I bought in 1993, having only replaced paddles, belt, and scraper bar.

@Peter-976 2 года назад

Another great video! Love hearing the honest business approach that you have dealing with your customers. That`s the kind of person I would want to do business with.

@peterdoherty7282 2 года назад

Don, you are a true professional. Thanks for taking the time to educate all of us watching! Pete

@donyboy73 2 года назад

thanks Peter

@tannerc900 2 года назад

You make small engines look and sound so fascinating, Dave is very lucky to have you as a mentor

@DavesSmallEngines 2 года назад

Yes I am!!!

@billlovett4256 2 года назад

Hi Dony, I loved your explanation on how sometimes it's not worth fixing some equipment for customers or for the DYI person. Cheers

@leeharris3061 2 года назад

I got 2 of those cheap ..one engine was seized..looked like no oil in the gas to me is what took it out..the other had carb issues..made one good one out of 2 👍🏻 thanks for the good video 🙂

@simonmorris8651 2 года назад

Great video Don and Dave, thank you both 👍👌👏. Super sound advice about how to talk with customers before touching a job. I have my own sole trader garden maintenance business and will ask a new customer what they want to spend - can be tricky because it can look like I'm trying to get maximum cash out of them when actually all I'm trying to do is advise how much of a job I'll get done on their budget. With return customers it's sooo much easier as the relationship gets much easier! Thanks again, appreciate your time and effort.

@upnort55 2 года назад

Great video! provides good insight on a similar snowblower issue I'm attempting to repair

@heavysnow8616 2 года назад

Great work with Dave, Donny. He’s a smart guy and he will do excellent. It’s so good for the experienced to pass on knowledge to the up and coming. Hope all is well Donny, God bless and keep up the great work!

@wtfbuddy1 2 года назад

Nice video and advice - good project for Dave to fiddle around with, can't become a small engine fixer without playing. Cheers

@LessThanHandy 2 года назад

And this is why donyboy is my go-to guy videos...👏👏👏👏

@Leonardokite 2 года назад

Love it, my wife brought a yard sale Snapper LE 19 for $20 that had hardly been used and sold for $120 at the time. It worked great but I was stupid and let it sit for a couple of unused years and the carburetor got Gunked up. I ended up replacing the carburetor for $15. And then after that experience, taking care of it LOL it has been a champ for our less than 1 foot snowfalls.

@nashguy207 2 года назад

Good to see you and Dave doing a video together again!

@Peter-.H 2 года назад

Very informative. Thanks guys 👍

@AnthemBassMan 2 года назад

Another old Toro single stage owner here. I have a 1988 Toro CR-20E that I just used today to help clean up the snow that we got dumped on Monday morning. That little 2.5hp Tecumseh AH600 2 stroke still runs like a little beast.

@frankenberry9670 2 года назад

Suggestion for an upcoming video. Changing the ignition coil/module on a Honda 928TCD. Getting the fan cover off that model seems to require something I'm not seeing. Your tips are always good.

@Fireship1 2 года назад

Bought one just like it a few years back on offer up. Paid 10.00 locally and it had thrown a rod. Tearing it down I found the rod cap bolts came loose and made the rod pierce the block. 88.00 later on eBay for an excellent condition used Tecumseh motor and I was back in business. Love this thing even more then my huge Murray blower. It packs a serious punch for its size.

@DavesSmallEngines 2 года назад

Hey buddy!!! Thanks for your advice!

@donyboy73 2 года назад

Any time!

@johnrose3169 2 года назад

I like those motors - RTek was a winterized/piston - ported design of the Lawnboy Duraforce engine that Toro later sold to Briggs and Stratton. I have a Toro 3650 snow thrower that works like a champ - just replaced the paddles and belt after 18 years. Also had a Toro recycler with the Suzuki 2 cycle engine - the deck corroded to dust and the motor was still going strong.

@knighthawk86855 2 года назад

The seasoned professional helping the youngling, great video, sharing tips and tricks.

@DavesSmallEngines 2 года назад

Cheers!

@knighthawk86855 2 года назад

@@DavesSmallEngines I subbed to your channel and rang the bell.

@johnhouli3450 2 года назад

Dony hi we’ll I just came in from using my 622 old snowthrower and there was a whining sound coming from the Auger so I immediately stopped and took to my garage and remove belt cover. I’m thinking the Aguer belt snapped. Nope that was good as well as drive belt. Come to be there was a extremely amount of packed wet slush in the chute. So I removed and she was good to go. I’m just wondering what was the whinnying sound from where? Thank You, your Channel is so informative.

@snowgorilla9789 2 года назад

Hope it was a hell of a deal, I got mine 4 or 5 years ago new in the spring clearout at home despot for $139 I thought if it gives me one season it will be worth it. That little machine is a beast, change the oil every spring and it chucks west coast snow and ice like it's got a second stage and a REAL engine. HELL OF A DEAL and four stroke

@QuaabQueb 2 года назад

I see a lot of those single stage machines have this half baffle that is on the carburetor in place of an air cleaner. For some reason unknown to me the baffle is always pointed up. It acts like a direct scoop for rain and snow that inevitably drips in to the carburetor. People often leave these machines outside and the cylinder fills with water. I always install that baffle pointing downward so nothing drips in to the carb.

@stevemoore8599 2 года назад

They are supposed to be pointing down. Otherwise like you said they act like a scoop.

@wingerrrrrrrrr 2 года назад

I thought it interesting that snow thrower engines don't use air filters at all.

@QuaabQueb 2 года назад

@@wingerrrrrrrrr no need, the winter is a dust free environment. The use of an air filter would actually have negative effects as it would become saturated with water and then freeze restricting the air.

@QuaabQueb 2 года назад

@@stevemoore8599 every machine I have come across has it pointed up from the factory. It is also shown that way in the drawings. My thinking is it is installed that way to prevent snow and slush from being kicked up off the ground in to the carb, however that is very unlikely. In my experience it is far more likely to collect water and snow pointed upward.

@stevemoore8599 2 года назад

@@QuaabQueb guess I never took the time to look at that part of the schematics. The first one I ever worked on had pointed down and that’s what I went with.

@keithkilps8250 2 года назад

good tips Don

@dj8010 2 года назад

Just got one of these for free from a neighbor about a week ago. Been soaking all the bolts and penetrating oil as very rusty and crusty. So far swapped out the plastic electric starter motor gear have a new OEM carburetor rebuild kit, spark plug, Amazon Chinese special aftermarket paddles and scraper bar kit to install to complete the repair. If it wasn't for my free labor this thing would be scrapped or parted out as well.

@seastacker8582 2 года назад

I picked up a toro s200 from the early 80’s years back. It became my favorite little snow blower for all but really heavy snow events. Super light, good power and does shockingly well. Also… some of these machines while plentiful are becoming higher demand with the new versions going for well over $600 (us) at Home Depot.

@carlmiller1034 2 года назад

Thanks for making this video. I would save the snowthrower for parts, if room allowed. Good assessment on whether to repair or not. So much depends on the customer and expectations.

@jensenwilliam5434 2 года назад

Thank s!

@ScottysVise 2 года назад

Carl is one smooth guy. Bet he's sitting back watching this video doing the evil laugh, while counting your money.

@TheC0zz 2 года назад

I have a relatively new ariens pro snowblower with a Briggs engine. The starter pull cord started jamming to an abrupt stop about mid pull. The last one, the handle flew out of my hand, broke and sucked the cord in. I started it with the electric start and it ran fine yesterday. Today, the electric start wouldn't turn the motor over the first couple tries and then it started and ran. I bought it new last year and it has been used about 10-15 times. The oil level is good. Any ideas? Possibly something simple or should I not try to start it until someone checks it out?

@almolloy5817 2 года назад

Quick tip on belt removal, take it off the largest diameter pulley first.

@robkenna2795 2 года назад

Thanks fellas, this brings up a good question. Should i repair it, or cut my losses, drop back and punt. My logic would be if i had the room set this aside and maybe a good motor falls in my lap down the road. Otherwise its probably not worth investing the time and money on this, would be better to just buy a working unit especially for someone unable to make the repair on their own . But i work with a guy who will spend more than its worth on things to keep them outta the landfill. So its a personal choice.

@grosseileracingteam 2 года назад

Hey Dony and Dave. Here in Michigan, I can buy those little snowblowers for $50 in running condition all day. Unless they are offered for free99 or $10 to use them for parts, I don't even bother with them. I do grab up cheap non running 2 stage blowers and re-power them with other parts blowers. Gotta make it worth your time.

@rbarr775 2 года назад

Too bad. Those 2-stroke Toros routinely punch above their weight class, and are excellent for light to medium snowfalls. They don't make them anymore, but fortunately they're still plentiful in the used market.

@717lawncare 2 года назад

I try to buy ones for cheap when I find them and flip them or keep for myself they are fantastic

@brianb5779 2 года назад

I def miss mine

@holdemNE1 2 года назад

I sold the flywheel for one of these for $75 on ebay once. Plus I had fun dismantling the hell out of the blower.

@brianking1138 2 года назад

Don gave you some good advice on that one. Most cheaper equipment is not worth fixing at a shop or profitable to flip. Unless you're fixing it for yourself walk away.

@11bayrat 2 года назад

I need the goer! My motor it good

@andreaechevarria6725 2 года назад

I live in New England and when I bought my house 25 years ago this kind of Toro was gifted by the previous owner. All I ever did was put two cycle fuel in it and run it dry every Spring. Lasted 18 more years and when it died I could only replace it with a four cycle Toro which has had to have repairs every other year it seems. Auger, belts and two carbs. I liked the old one better.

@TheOtherBill 2 года назад

I'll never forgive the EPA for killing the 2 stroke snowblowers. There's nothing that can replace them in power, weight, and price.

@Luigi-pk8mk 2 года назад

@@TheOtherBill agreed I am never giving up my 2 stroke Toro "old smokey" I have enough spares to keep it going forever.

@int53185 2 года назад

I got one of those free. Just going to run it until it dies. Good machine when it was new.

@fleetwin1 2 года назад

Good policies indeed. Usually customers think they are going to get an overhaul for $75. I like that you spent time to look at it anyway, you never know, could have been something simple (debris caught in flywheel/jammed up recoil), you never know. You are never going to come out ahead on these deals, just part of customer service. Unfortunately, the only way to repair if is with a new powerhead, the part alone probably costs almost as much as a new little toro. Every once in awhile you/customer might get lucky, and have a wrecked unit with a good engine, but that is mighty rare. You will probably end up tossing this poor thing out in your storage shed, and pick it clean for repairs on other units.. Oh well, you gave it a chance which is what is important...

@donyboy73 2 года назад

exactly!

@adubbelde1 2 года назад

I picked up an older CCR1000. I put new paddles on it and it was running pretty good, but now it bogs down when under load. It starts almost always on the first pull. I checked the plug and it looked pretty good. Any ideas how to improve it's performance? I did take it to 5600 ft in elevation so I know that can affect performance.

@ScottysVise 2 года назад

New fuel line, fuel filter, and clean the carb thoroughly. Flush the gas tank, too

@ericvaughn1126 2 года назад

I got a Toro S-620 that started and ran for $25 last month. Just used it to clear my driveway today. Runs on 32:1 and it got it done like no body's business! Electric stater motor works too and just need to get a replacement hear installed. I'm a fan!

@wannawin95 2 года назад

32:1 was what they originally ran because back when the machine was made the two cycle oils weren't nearly as good. Today you should be running it more at 40:1 or 50:1. You can confirm this yourself by looking on Toro's website with the model & serial Their nice little light weight machines.

@ericvaughn1126 2 года назад

@@wannawin95 Appreciate the insight and I figured as much too since I run Stihl synthetic 2 cycle oil in 93 octane non-ethanol gas in my newer 50:1 equipment. I used a Briggs 2 cycle oil to mix the fresh 32:1 so I didn't take any chances in getting it ready for a rare snowstorm in the US South that hit today.

@wannawin95 2 года назад

@@ericvaughn1126 it'll run fine on 32:1, you'll probably get a little less power, more smoke out the exhaust and it'll carbon up alot quicker. I have a cr20e which is basically the same machine except the paddles are curved like other single stage throwers. The S200, S620, Snowmaster are basically the exact same machines with just a rubber flap that spins. It's pretty fun ripping them around in the snow

@ericvaughn1126 2 года назад

@@wannawin95 yeah it ran great on 32:1 today and was definitely fun. I had a bigger 2 stage when I lived in the North, but the lightweight S-620 was quick and easy to use and throw heavier snow and sleet than I expected it to handle.

@elcheapo5302 2 года назад

I don't know what Dave's plan is...but there's a guy on eBay selling brand new short blocks for that engine out of Chicago for less than $100. If that's all it needs...could be a fun/educational project...might even make a great vid! 😉

@ablelock 2 года назад

Do you know just an idea he might keep that thing around and use it and rebuild it in the winter time when there’s really nothing to do just do you spend spare time in it if you’re extremely busy shop then I can understand not wanting to do that but sometimes you have downtime that you can fix things like that just to give you something to do especially if you’re a novelist. Enjoyed your video keep up the good work.

@debbiekarasiewicz9019 2 года назад

If the piston is moving up and down the rod is fine. I’m guessing it’s in the recoil

@lassila3 2 года назад

Dave dave you are doing just fine

@gigiadrianmager6003 2 года назад

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@donyboy73 2 года назад

Welcome aboard! greetings from canada!

@donyboy73 2 года назад

years ago my family doctor was from Romania

@Luigi-pk8mk 2 года назад

That is a Briggs Rtek 2 stroke, different engine entirely than the other one you have with the Suzuki 47P 2 stroke. Sometimes you can find decent Rtek 2 strokes on ebay. I was able to find a spare Suzuki 47 P, electric starter and electric starter flywheel all on ebay, for less than $100 USD total! So I plan on keeping this Toro going for a LONG time. I love the light weight and low maintenance.

@robertrpenny 2 года назад

How about converting to electric with a 15 amp electric motor?

@jasonmushersee 2 года назад

use to take my mcculloch homelite husqavarna chainsaws to a local small engine repair try to keep him in business my saws always sat there 6+ months before he got to mine he's a stihl dealer every square foot in his shop, display area, hallway outside bathroom & floor around cash register area it's all broke down stihl chainsaws/weed whippers heard him say once "f***ing people should just use roundup" lol

@stans5270 2 года назад

Unless the sign on it said FREE, I would have walked away.

@Mizman76 2 года назад

Confused. If the piston was moving,the rod isnt broken. Should tear it down to verify. Could be as simple as the recoil or something. Only saying this because you said "look down the hole,its moving." Did I miss something?

@MaMa-qh4dy 2 года назад

I hope that Dave didn't pay more than $25 for that piece of junk!

@DavesSmallEngines 2 года назад

I didn’t!

@jws3925 2 года назад

In Michigan those little 2 cycle blowers are not too popular. I have "fixed" a couple and had difficulty selling them for $100. I would never get anything more for them and I think the last one I had to let go for $75 just to get it out of my shop. Not a fan of working on those things. Usually more time into them than what the things are worth. Unless it is just a carb clean I don't think they are worth messing with.

@scottfirman 2 года назад

Same where I am in Northern Michigan. I am done with two stroke throwers and cheap weed eaters. Not worth my time any more.

@patthesoundguy 2 года назад

I have an old one of those here, and it was seized but not from raw fuel or overheating... It was just gummed up and I had to pull the head and heat the cylinder and piston and kept working it and tapped the piston lightly with a wood block. It ran in the end but I would not do it for a paying customer. I would have definitely run into a lot of money had it been a paying customer. $40 for the carb kit and 3 to 4 hours labour definitely not worth it.

@aldoclausi3955 2 года назад

That's a great little snow blower. Easy to maneuver on smaller driveways and walkway. Not worth doing a motor swap on that one. A used good working one is only a couple hundred bucks. I wouldn't even keep that for parts. I would just buy another one if and when the paddles wore out. And you know there are not the same as the 4 joke motors made today.

@vetterfellow 2 года назад

Dony & Dave (Grasshopper) - No retreat no surrender LOL That engine didn't sound good at all. Parts fer sale if it's not too old. Ya can't get a lot of money for used parts. Well done 👍 Guys - Cheers!!***.

@josephrich6014 2 года назад

Bummer, but live and learn. Sometimes you win and sometimes you don't.

@rpavlik1 2 года назад

I was gonna say "single stage blower, ain't worth the liquid dino you'll feed it" but apparently these particular ones are popular 🤣 I guess the blade on my lawn tractor is only a single stage technically, but I'm generally two-stage only. Single stage is maybe for walkways...

@wayneessar7489 2 года назад

It is for the slush and soaking sloppy snow I get in my area, two stage machines get plugged up more often here.

@RottnRobbie 2 года назад

I have one of each, and they're both good in their own way. The single stage handles the "usual" fall of 2 to 4 inches with no problem, while being lighter, faster, and easier to manage than the bigger blower. But when we get a big dump, the 2-stage is the only thing that'll move it.

@berardia4 2 года назад

If it doesn't run my offer is just for parts even if they say " it ran last time" or" just needs a cable" , I'd say we'll put the cable on and then sell it for more $.

@rustyfolts3298 2 года назад

In my area, they would expect it fixed like new for 20 bucks.

@donyboy73 2 года назад

same here

@ronniebarker79 2 года назад

Good points donyboy73

@Thomas-wn7cl 2 года назад

👍

@robertmailhos8159 2 года назад

Oh well at least you and Dave tried to fix it 😳😳

@robertmailhos8159 2 года назад

Thanks for the heart young man 😎

@DavesSmallEngines 2 года назад

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose!

@hdrk59 2 года назад

Says Dave a lot.

@richardwernst 2 года назад

No Chinese motors available that'll fit that?

@meathead585 2 года назад

Remember...Customers can always be replaced...

@joshuaryanferguson3702 2 года назад

i was able to unsieze one of them with castoral oil an fix it with the same damn problem

@bser3973 2 года назад

Turn the crank shat with a pipe wrench. Don't hold the auger handle down when your trying to pull it.

@Rattletrap2 2 года назад

In my career servicing equipment, I had an unofficial rule that the repair cost should not exceed 50% of the value of the equipment.

@donyboy73 2 года назад

same here!

@dfields9511 2 года назад

It’s domski . Good for parts.

@homieshenna 2 года назад

Why would you buy a piece of equipment with an engine (not a motor) and not be sure the thing starts/runs/performs?

@davidcoudriet8439 2 года назад

How about just fixing it anyway so we can see what's involved?

@jacquescote2585 2 года назад

Eh Dave, with a friend like that,you don’t need ennemies!!!

@brucebonkowski7253 2 года назад

First take the plug out put transmission fluid or break ease put plug back let it sit overnight next day don't pull recoil get some vise grips pit on pulley end remove belt turn counterclockwise and move slowly up p as nd back it should move I never put any equipment without oil pentertraing oil down all plug I use seafoam or fuel additives in my Dr as ined fuel tank never ever dry it will rust

@twilson377 2 года назад

Dang, Dave is super cute! Rawr!

@marshallborder9089 2 года назад

Yes Scrape , put it too the side for parts .

@steveott1884 2 года назад

Scrap it!

@kevinisbell1867 2 года назад

Knock knock. ✊ "who is it'"? "Its Dave". "Dave's not here man".

@rickthelian2215 2 года назад

Customer needs to look at the age and value of a new unit they could buy from you.

@zyplex1 2 года назад

Oh to bad Dave, it looked promising

@kevinhaley6776 2 года назад

What are you up to Dave?

@DavesSmallEngines 2 года назад

Hey Kevin! Getting back into the vids from a short hiatus. A few more to come from Don and I?

@pddpup7767 2 года назад

had one of those once ... kind of a waste of time as a snowthrower

@dwoodog 2 года назад

You must also get people got it for free, trash pick or whatever, and find out it could be over $100 to fix and they just say forget it you can keep it?

@brianwinters4991 2 года назад

Dave wheel that to the dumpster , come to my house , I'll give you mine !

@deanmoore420 2 года назад

I have a motor that is good

@brianbanks3044 2 года назад

Tell the customer to buy an electric EGO 1 stage for the money he would spend hoping to fix this machine

@thomask4836 2 года назад

Hey Dave by golly stay away from any vehicles that Carl has for sale eh!

@scottfirman 2 года назад

I cannot even give those type of snowblowers away. I have several two stroke throwers that are in great shape and no one wants them. I am done dealing with the two stroke throwers. Same with cheap weed eaters.

@donyboy73 2 года назад

i see you lke RC, I want to get the aarma mojave

@999thenewman 2 года назад

I'm glad this old design is no more. Bought a new 4-cycle Toro from The Home Depot website in 2019 for $499 because the governor broke internally on the old one (which ran rich and heavy for another season with a $14 carburetor until it clapped out.) Word to the wise, don't be $120 into a $200 machine that is 20+ years old. It isn't worth it. Now prices for new are higher than ever!

@ronniebarker79 2 года назад

Dave has your friend carl sold you a 🍋 uk term

@larryborkstrom3580 2 года назад

That unit is only good for parts and practice on repairs for the rookie the engine is blown

@appleztooranges 2 года назад

Throw it out. Buy a Honda 🤣

@williamtolli1450 2 года назад

is carl a ex friend now

@tonyray4565 2 года назад

These things are junk. Not the Toro I use to know. The plastic chute cracks and it’s over $150.

@davie66fly 2 года назад

A suggestion: talking over each other makes the video difficult to follow.

@justamessenger5985 2 года назад

Have you heard the good news of Jesus Christ? The good news is Jesus Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures. (1 Corinthians 15 1-4) For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9)

@wayneessar7489 2 года назад

Did he perform any miracle on farm equipment?