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Mike Florio and Chris Simms react to Deion Sanders' comments about the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and debate why the Hall of Fame needs to make some changes. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #DieonSanders
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@Dabbers41234 Год назад

Imagine a top 10 in the Hof as voted by hall of famers. Keep it the best 10 to ever do it.

@k.p7820 Год назад

Why would it be too 10 when it’s 11 on the field

@Dabbers41234 Год назад

well there is offense and defense so its more like 21 on the field at all time. I say top 10 cause just voting the best ever by position kinda screws some people. Like Brady and Montana are both top 10.

@raiderdave4874 Год назад

Lawerance Taylor goes in the upper room, it needs to be players that changed the game. He did.

@RSMoreno Год назад

LT should be one of the all time top 3-5. But he shouldn’t be part of any committee selecting other Best of the Best HoF because cocaine is a helluva drug

@eeNORMous1 Год назад

I agree 100% bruh But mostly because it's been watered down over the years. Maybe because of the HOF's success ... Too many people who have never played the game voting.. also a reporters biased view of a player that he didn't like can keep a player out... I guess what I'm saying is that it has become almost political

@believer7280 Год назад

The NFL Hall of Fame is a money-maker. They have to have several players go in each year to keep it a big event. This is why they've started putting in "good" players instead of all-time greats. If it were only all-time greats, some years it would only be 1 or 2 players....which would not be good for business. It's all about the money.

@TDiggz Год назад

Moss changed the game

@davidnelson7719 Год назад

Got to put him wherever the players are highest... ;-)

@webstergadison4995 Год назад

Well Deion knows he is getting in. Lawrence and Deion are there.

@Meauxbley Год назад

You have to start out with “The 1st 50”. That’s the Jim Brown, Deion, LT, Barry Sanders, Peyton, Walter Peyton, Brady, Singletary, Ray Lewis, Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Larry Allen, Ed Reed, etc

@mudkings Год назад

I remember watching an interview with cops after it took like 8 of them to detain Lawrence Taylor and qoute" he said Lawrence Taylor was the strongest man they ever had to arrest"

@fademejake Год назад

If it is done it should not happen the year they are inducted. There should be a longer waiting period for that. It eliminates some of that recency bias. Maybe 15 years after induction, which would be 20 years after retirement for 1st ballot guys. If they are not still clearly a great after that time, they should not get elevated.

@richardsheeran7425 Год назад

So when people are nearing death. Got it lol

@markjackson6134 7 месяцев назад

15 is too long but correct.

@Gremlack13 Год назад

I like the idea of a separate room of the best of the best of the best chosen by fellow hall of famers.

@louischapman3716 Год назад

Yes, there should be some sort of ring of honor in the hall of Fame. There's some guess that barely squeaked in and some guys that were no brainers.

@gatoraddison Год назад

Yes, all of our Hall of Fame’s have turned into hall of good

@iloveyoumadhuri Год назад

It’s more like a hall of whatever.

@MosheGoldbergTheKing Год назад

I think you're talking about the Basketball Hall of Participation.

@izraelite2908 Год назад

Hall of 'Oh Yeah I Remember That Guy'

@jrad410 Год назад

Eli getting in the hall of fame is just wild to me. He won 8 playoff games and in every game his defense didn’t over 20 once. But that’s what good connections will do for you

@PoeDaddyRay Год назад

Eli is the ONLY QB to beat the Goat QB (Brady) TWICE!!!! That has to count for something

@yonamzigu291 Год назад

@@PoeDaddyRay that thing is called New York Giants hall of fame or ring of honor, they should even retire his jersey if they can but not the hall

@oblivieon1567 Год назад

He also chose the team he went to after college effectively making draft order irrelevant. But hey there are certain "privileges" when your last name is Manning.

@5000jetadam Год назад

@@PoeDaddyRay You want to put Nick Foles in too?

@izraelite2908 Год назад

@@PoeDaddyRay Except him and Goat weren't playing each other... they were playing each other's defenses #BADARGUMENT

@marksprinkle Год назад

I'm done with the HOF the day Eli is given a jacket he didn't earn.

@KCShox Год назад

Yeah because Joe Namath and his below .500 record, 50 percent completion percentage, and 173 TD passes to 220 INTs oozes HOFer. Eli deserves to be a HOFer way more than some QBs already in it.

@oaklandtraphouse Год назад

You ca t tell the story of the nfl with out Eli

@HitsTownUSA Год назад

@@KCShox I gave up after Warner got in. He had a few short great years with the Rams but after that his career wasn’t consistent.

@jamesaustin7 Год назад

Every great museum has an exclusive wing or gallery showcasing it's most special and valuable treasures. The Louvre has the Denon Wing and the Musee d' Orsay in Paris has Upper Level "1". It makes so much sense that the pro football HOF should have the same. It's great for the game and for business. I like the idea that the hall of fame induction continues as it is now and the "upper room" is a furtherance of that process determined by a committee of halll of fame players. Prime is spot on with this idea of a "Legends" wing or upper level/ room. It would only add to the mystique and popularity of the NFL HOF. Also, Florio might be on to something to make it an exclusive TV event. Go NFL Films. Fans would love to see that process! Build it and they will come.

@moogs05 Год назад

Nobody cares about The Paris hall of fame .

@JJ-Toreddie Год назад

"If you build it. HE will come"

@jamesaustin7 Год назад

@@moogs05 I do. And it's my comment, so that's all that matters. Thanks.

@daveconleyportfolio5192 Год назад

Art is made by individuals, and football is as complex a team game as ever created. There are phenomenal players whose impact was limited by playing for bad clubs, and players playing positions who will never rack up great stats. Deion wouldn't be in the Hall at all without someone else doing the tackling.

@SundevilRoadrunner Год назад

@@daveconleyportfolio5192 “Deion Sanders wouldn’t be in the hall of fame without someone else doing the tackling” huh?

@pycellesbeard9728 Год назад

Love how Joe Montana casually strolls by in the background at 7:07 as these dudes are discussing if an upper room is a good idea.

@Watchingvideoslikeu Год назад

Once they let Kurt Warner in after having like 4 good years in St. Louis and 2 and a half good years in Arizona was wild.

@laurenirby3782 Год назад

Great show, as always, guys!

@laurenirby3782 Год назад

Yes! Deion is usually always right!

@luckylarue7885 Год назад

Any argument that applies to Eli manning also applied to Edelman.

@RK-um9tu Год назад

And that argument is that neither belong but Edelman should even be mentioned as a Pats HOFer...

@CharlieHustle1687 Год назад

Neon Deion is right, especially if Eli gets in.

@Him_Downstairs36 Год назад

Joe Namath got in. Eli is miles better

@bradleyj7801 Год назад

the Hall of Fame should be for players who are famous before entering the Hall, not because they were voted there due to some stat boy becoming enlightened comparing spreadsheets while trying to figure out how to fill a quota

@1stAmendmentorDie1776 Год назад

Stop letting below HOF guys in.

@zukoku4063 Год назад

I don't care what anyone says, Zach Thomas deserves to be in the HOF.

@Jake-jo4fw Год назад

What's super funny is as I'm listening to Prime talking about guys who don't deserve to be next to LT, Zach Thomas is the first guy I thought of lol

@msp5138 Год назад

Newsflash, he is in the HOF...

@anti-classist Год назад

I think it's impossible to implement... I think it's more important have eras of different HOF. And you can have top guys from those eras.

@milkgotmoney Год назад

Questioning if Peyton should be in the 'Upper Room'?!? AB-SO-LUTELY!

@Qd322 Год назад

FREAKIN-LUTELY!

@znhait 9 месяцев назад

Shocking take from a so-called expert. The man is a 4-time MVP winner.

@Billyoutz Год назад

I'm kind of sick of people changing things in an attempt to make EVERYTHING perfect and we end up with a mess. Folks, like it or not life is not perfect, life is unfair, life is hard, life is not easy so we should make our best effort to deal with the good, bad and ugly and simply do the best we can to make as much as we can fair for all but NO matter what we do someone will be unhappy.

@andrewfung8591 Год назад

The NFL 100 team members could be the committee

@QuinnMakeUp Год назад

Is Florio okay..... did he just question if Peyton Manning would be in the "Upper Room" of the HOH? are you kidding me... Thank you Simms for putting some respect on Peyton. It's like people forget how special he was in his Prime. That neck injury cost us fans some really good Manning years.. its too bad. Loved watching him play.

@mourka01 Год назад

He won with neck in denver though didn't he or was that before?

@QuinnMakeUp Год назад

@@mourka01 Im saying it shortened his career... his arm strength was never the same and got worse and worse with time.. and more hits. his record breaking 51 TDs season came after the neck injury... It's just sad that happened and cost him/fans some good playing years.

@Steven-lb4bl Год назад

He miraculously got better after his wife got HGH. Cough cough

@msp5138 Год назад

@@Steven-lb4bl Facts!

@Qd322 Год назад

I agree with Coach Prime. Now it's like when your standing in line waiting to be let into the popular night club and the bouncer unhooks the rope and allows a group of people to rush inside before closing the rope temporarily just to open it again for the next group

@aVerveQuest Год назад

Whats frustrating is players from the past were left out before all this quota voting so you have the guys like Ken Riley, Ken Anderson, Stanley Morgan, Phil Sims , Otis Anderson, Roger Craig, Rosey Grier, LC Greenwood, Harold Jackson, Cornelius Bennett, Chuck Howley, Eric Allen, Tim McDonald who don't get looked at but them more modern players slide in.

@monochrome493 Год назад

SIMS, MORGAN, ANDERSON, ANDERSON, MCDONALD NOT HOF

@msp5138 Год назад

From that list, only 5 time 1st team All-Pro (and SB MVP) Chuck Howley belongs in the HOF...

@dkeiepps5606 Год назад

Phil Simms and Ottis Andersen aren’t HOFs…not even close

@christiansoldier77 Год назад

@@dkeiepps5606 Yeah but there are guys no better than they are who are already in

@thegorn68 Год назад

They need to get rid of the quota for NEW and recently retired players and give more slots to the senior player group to get in before more of them die or get too old for induction. It's ridiculous some of the players that are glaring omissions.

@JamesBond-mm3iu Год назад

Imo need to either have A. Changed the game B. Been one of the best at your position in all of nfl history.

@victorGarcia-cw8mq Год назад

Yes Coach prime is correct 💯

@kamellegomez3741 Год назад

Maybe a top 100 wing

@commodorezero Год назад

No. Everyone in the HOF isn't equal and people are perfectly capable of figuring that out on their own through stats and awards. Deion is honestly being a dick with this opinion. Yes we know you're better than most of the people in the HOF that doesn't mean you have to punch down and be mean to the borderline candidates. They're not disrespecting you you're disrespecting them.

@number1chiefROKKA Год назад

Prime is right. The players who played know the real game-changers. It's not exclusive if you let everyone in.

@jeremyorthman1873 Год назад

What I hate about this debate is that people always bring Eli Manning up in it. First, he hasn't been up put in and second there are a lot of players you could question before him.

@znhait 9 месяцев назад

I can't believe Florio entertained the idea of not putting Peyton Manning in that upper room. The meaning of that room is about players who were different from the rest. I'm a bit young, but guys like Unitas, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, LT, Deion Sanders, Brady, Manning, Marino...they're mythical figures. The same cannot be said of Warren Sapp, Michael Irvin, and similar players. They're all HoF, but they didn't change the game. It's sort of a backhanded compliment, but what I think is that the truly elite players deserve that recognition.

@jharp08 Год назад

They should have a wing for great moments. Like Vicks Monday night cleats, the first responder to help Hamlin photo, things like thst

@ljlowe2990 Год назад

Man shut up lol

@Jake-jo4fw Год назад

They already collect that stuff

@worldsheaviestjamband93 Год назад

Phil Simms could push all he wanted but no one is putting him in the HOF.

@tonyevers2663 Год назад

It really shows how much the game has changed. When Phil Simms retired he was 8th all time in career passing yards. There are 8 active QBs (not counting Brady) that are above him today.

@ericthomas151 Год назад

Sh%$ What's the difference between Phil Simms, Ronde Barber and Zach Thomas?

@ericthomas151 Год назад

Why Zach Thomas in before Phil Simms?

@msp5138 Год назад

@@ericthomas151 Here is the difference: -Zach Thomas has five 1st and two 2nd team All-Pro selections; made the all decade 2000s team. -Ronde Barber has three 1st and two 2nd team All-Pro selections; made the all decade 2000s team. -Phil Simms has.... You are welcome for the free education.

@shyguyms Год назад

there shouldn't have been a need for this upper room. The HOF should of been the upper room and so many of these guys didn't deserve it in the first place

@bobg1069 Год назад

What you are saying, and what very many believe, is that the HoF has been devalued over many years, by admitting great players in their time, but not generationally talented ones. I think that if you made that determination today, half of the busts would be ineligible. Having an annual quota is ridiculous.

@dallasherd Год назад

7:07 walking by is definitely in the upper room!

@jimc.goodfellas226 Год назад

Gotta love Coach Prime, but there's no need for an extra wing....true fans know who the best of the best were. Those of us who grew up watching Neon Deion know that he was one of the greatest of all time

@jamalsag7812 Год назад

Dead right!! NBA definitely needs an upper room section of ALL hall of fames'...

@Ekim1740 Год назад

yeah. Yao ming a hall of famer? what?

@aaronlewis2501 Год назад

At 3:30 they’re talking about Eli Manning and Toni Boselli

@andrewmartinez9992 Год назад

Boselli didn’t deserve it

@Thomas1701E 4 месяца назад

•You have the GREATEST of all-time at a position (Lawrence Taylor) •You have one of the greatest of all-time at a position (Mike Singletary) •Based on their body of work over a long career with great stats (Curtis Martin) •Based on a good career that had iconic championship moments (Lynn Swann) •Based on a good career on an iconic team and had iconic moments (Drew Person) They're all HOFers. An upper room is a dumb idea. It would tarnish the hall of fame.

@davidw9772 Год назад

GOAT ... LAWRENCE TAYLOR ... MICHAEL VICK ... DEION SANDERS ... JIM BROWN

@glennsatterfield1755 Год назад

A few easy answers for the upper Room. Lawrence Taylor, Deion Sanders, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana.

@regice5650 Год назад

I believe they should put certain players in a shrine in the back where the lights are a little Brighter and the Bus is a little shinier

@sonyarice7716 Год назад

I can't believe Simeon Rice isn't in the Hall of fame. How about we just put the best players in the Hall of Fame and that's it. There's no need for a upper crust, only the best players should get in period.

@msp5138 Год назад

I can...

@sonyarice7716 Год назад

@@msp5138 How so? 🤔

@franklinkoonce4245 Год назад

GOD IS GOOD ❤️ HBCU'S

@iamjoshdouglas Год назад

love this idea

@georgewashington1106 Год назад

If there's going to be an upper room, there also needs to be a basement. That's where you put Eli, if he gets in at all

@msp5138 Год назад

Eli belongs in the closet of that basement...

@georgewashington1106 Год назад

@@msp5138 - The janitors closet hopefully

@bobblewinchester5310 Год назад

Enjoy watching.

@jamiepasquariello2652 Год назад

Zach Thomas getting in probably sparked this debate

@ssmanwithaplan Год назад

Isn't that what the NFL 100 team was for?

@cagem0nkey Год назад

There should be one room with one spot for each position for the best player in that position as voted on by all HOF players.

@Shemzinho 8 месяцев назад

Great idea 💯

@johnbox271 Год назад

The concept that players have clue is bizarre. How many players competed against Otto Graham?

@msp5138 Год назад

What is bizarre is that you think you know more than HOF players...lol

@johnbox271 Год назад

@@msp5138 I don't vote. The fact that you think recency bias should determine who is the best of the best says it all.

@samoramachel55 Год назад

Devin Hester needs to be in - He changed the Game

@510MELLYMEL Год назад

It's criminal that him and Patrick willis have had to wait at all. Both should've been 1st ballot.

@Dan_Boston Год назад

There should be a “1st ballot” wing

@Watchingvideoslikeu Год назад

Outside of the two Super Bowl runs Eli Manning never made the Giants consistently competitive.

@TR-ju5re Год назад

Make first ballot HOF have their own area.

@chrisgonz9963 Год назад

I agree with Deion there should be a upper room for the truly special players the real game changers who changed the game like Deion Lawrence Taylor, Barry Sanders , Reggie white , Peyton Manning , Jim brown, Ray Lewis , Ed Reed, Walter Payton , Jerry rice , Joe Montana , John elway Dan Marino Tony gonzalez soon to be Tom Brady these guys are the upper room and others guys that I forgot to mention but they should be distances of the hall of fame

@datruth2179 Год назад

Mike Vick definitely changed the game fist QB ever with that speed

@joshclayton6436 Год назад

The biggest case for the hall of Fame that still isn't getting in is London Fletcher

@joshclayton6436 Год назад

And he's only getting snubbed for who he played for or who his teams owner is really soon as Snyder sells the team hell get in you watch

@msp5138 Год назад

Isn't he a British actor?

@joemadsenphoto Год назад

President of the upper room in the background at 7:09.

@Ralphdawg Год назад

Prime actually have a point

@angelmatos9143 Год назад

Nooooo. Maybe a one person room named "Biggest Ego in Sports" 🤣

@kcsniper1243 Год назад

I think the hall of farmers don't have enough say in who gets in. If the media had less say T.O. would have got in 1st ballot like he should have.

@icnow2 Год назад

Agree

@mahad7491 Год назад

They already have a distinction... First Ballot HOF, Second Ballot HOF, Third Ballot HOF, etc etc....

@richardsheeran7425 Год назад

You go best player from each position. Then players vote if someone from a newer class takes a previous spot. It should be an honor and 1 of 1.

@OakHillSoulman Год назад

My wife and I were just talking about something like this for the Rock and Roll HoF. I mean The Beatles are in with Nine Inch Nails (no disrespect to NIN but they’re not The Beatles or Rolling Stones). Cat Stevens with Elvis and Chuck Berry. So this is great idea for Pro Football HoF! The immortals should be separate!

@Watchingvideoslikeu Год назад

Yeah not every Singer, Rapper, or Band with a few number one albums should be in the hall of fame. The hall of fame should be for transcendent artists & athletes.

@gzsprout Год назад

Should be the all-Time team. 11 Offense Players 11 Defense Players 2-3 Special Team Players 1 Coach 1 Owner If you put someone in, someone else comes out.

@sportgeek2028 Год назад

🏅

@fulaan1 Год назад

There should only be allowed two - three attempts at the Hall. After that no more

@mlguy8376 Год назад

This reminds me of the “Frasier” episode where Nile’s and Frasier go to a spa and keep wanting to go to the next door, and the final door was the back door to the garbage alley.

@jgonzo6701 Год назад

Patrick Mahomes belongs on the upper deck no question asked

@johnt2475 Год назад

Who is in the qb elite room? Brady, Manning, Elway, Montana are locks? Is Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham, Unitas not there, too? Bart Starr?

@tanisraistlin4934 Год назад

It's really the hall of numbers. No one was more famous or better that Bo.

@dkeiepps5606 Год назад

As a Giants fan Eli belongs in the HOF but not first ballot. Players who are close to the Hall I always ask could you tell the story of the NFL without them and Eli you can’t. He has the numbers,the rings, beat the goat twice in the Super Bowl,super bow mvp,the 49ers game,the packers twice at lambaeu, and is was apart of 3 of the best passes/catches all time (helmet catch,Odell fingertip, and Manningham on the sideline). He’s nowhere near on the level of Brady or his brother…so I do agree there should be an upper room that has players like Reggie White,LT,Deon,Ed Reed,Ray Lewis,Jerry Rice,Brady, Aaron Donald when it’s his time…these players were just waaaaay better than their counterparts so they should be acknowledged for that.

@HitsTownUSA Год назад

Basically the upper room of the hall of fame should be the players on the 100 all time team.

@benjaminhorsley9923 Год назад

Fred Taylor deserve to be in the hall of Fame

@MagicAIDSJohnson68 Год назад

@HanSoloBolo Год назад

Nope. At least not before Roger Craig and Eddie George...Ricky Waters and a couple more.

@dvkgaming5863 Год назад

I could see beast mode in before those guys

@HanSoloBolo Год назад

@@dvkgaming5863 Beastmode should definitely get in

@msp5138 Год назад

As the janitor maybe...

@RexKwon Год назад

I agree. The fact Edgerrin James was elected...I mean come on.

@christiansoldier77 Год назад

If Eli goes to the HOF then why not Phil Simms?

@TheNosarajr Год назад

It would just be the 10 greatest QB's

@R17759 Год назад

@Lboogie23 Год назад

It's true

@charlesbrownjr Год назад

Lawd... This is crazy 😧

@OG_Phil225 Год назад

Yes! & another thing… if there’s a year where only 2 or 3 guys actually deserve to get in then so be it. Stop trying to fill up the event with guys who were just “good” or Players/GM’s that are 100 years old.. if it took 30 40 years to get in…. Then you probably aren’t a hall of famer

@christiansoldier77 Год назад

Just stop letting everyone in . Upper room is just gonna cause controversy.

@bmatthews15 Год назад

It's called 1st ballot

@casteine Год назад

Well, you are right because they always mention 1st ballot when the player gets that way.

@michaellee258 Год назад

Great idea, but I feel old school guys will be overlooked since many they played against are just not around anymore. Guys like Unitas.

@MrSilus2000 Год назад

So we don’t have the history to know who was the guy and changed the game in his era??

@msp5138 Год назад

Everyone who actually follows football (and not just Brady) knows Unitas belongs in any upper room of the HOF.

@tokyosan7906 Год назад

Yeah lets put a CB in an "elite" wing of the HOF who was afraid to tackle anyone unless it was from behind.

@fockewulf4409 Год назад

One problem could be that greats of past decades like the 60s and 70s May get overlooked because other HOFers are younger and didn’t watch them growing up.

@JediTiga Год назад

Exactly they're basically talking about the players from way back who's stats are incomparable to the modern league. They were from a different time, give them their respect.

@jamiesp3901 Год назад

Pick a time frame 10, 25, 50 years. At that point, pick an All NFL team. Like the NBA top 75 team.

@Supramandon 8 месяцев назад

A "Hall" of Fame, then there's the "SHOWROOM" within the HOF.... :)

@dirk4858 Год назад

Louis Wright belongs in the Hall of Fame

@dirk4858 Год назад

And Randy Gradishar

@johnt2475 Год назад

If they picked the ten greatest defenders regardless of position is Deion on the list? At DB is he over Woodson, Reed, Polamalu, and Lott? LB is Taylor and Lewis but does Bednarik, Brooks, Butkus, Lambert, Lanier, Nitschke, Simgletary, et al make it to the exclusive room?

@monochrome493 Год назад

YES DEION IS A TOP 4 PLAYER ALL TIME, THERE IS NO DB BETTER THAN DEION

@msp5138 Год назад

@@monochrome493 Deion is not a top 4 player all-time and he would even agree with me.

@msp5138 Год назад

Good list but you left out: Jack Ham (8 All-Pros), Bobby Bell (9 AFL/NFL All-Pros). I'd put Bell over Ham because he was the first "true" athlete at LBer.

@HitsTownUSA Год назад

@@msp5138 Willie Lanier is also in the discussion. 8x all pro middle linebacker

@dereklee8103 Год назад

Eli is not the best example of a borderline. For one, beating the GOAT twice, on two of the best playoff runs we've seen from a QB he's in. The 0.500 record is partially, but fair from all of his fault. Look how bad the team was from 2013-2019. Mismanagement by Reese and Gettleman, and awful coaching post Coughlin had a massive role in the awful Giants seasons for that half decade

@TheAston316 Год назад

He led the league in interceptions 3 times and tds 1 once. If they vote him in its only because of the two superbowls. Probably only one play which should have been called back for multiple holds

@yonamzigu291 Год назад

Alot of QBs have beaten Tom more than once, that is a pathetic reason to make somebody a hall of famer

@loucaruso3971 Год назад

Eli & His Defense Beat A Team That If Won Would Go Down As Greatest Team In History &&& To Add To His Other Against Them !!!!

@larryking2698 Год назад

Anyone thats a first ballot guy would probably be in that room

@trentb229 Год назад

Nah, Politics Made Some Wait That Should've Been 1st Ballot. & The Yr You Retired Could Also Effect It. U Have Stacked Classes & U Have Some Classes With Guys Who Wouldn't Make It In Any Other Yr Due To Retiring @ The Right Time...

@larryking2698 Год назад

@@trentb229 i didnt think of it like that, i meant when you rmbr watching a guy play during their career, everyone would refer to them as first ball HOF and there would be no debate/little debate about it. Now that whole politics aspect is not something i was aware of.

@trentb229 Год назад

@@larryking2698 Thats How It Should Be. If U Have 2 Think About If Someone Is A Hall of Famer, Then They Shouldn't Be In The Hall of Fame🤷🏾‍♂️

@trentb229 Год назад

@Cody Hess I Don't Disagree, But There Have Been Some 1st Ballots Guys That Should've Had 2 Wait, Compared To The Guys They Did Make Wait

@fulaan1 Год назад

@@trentb229Terrel Owens

@JediTiga Год назад

Based on these recent inductions there's no reason Eli shouldn't make it in.

@msp5138 Год назад

Sorry Payton, you are dead wrong. -Zero All-Pro selections in 15 years -4 Pro Bowl in 15 years -Career record was 117-117 -Carrer passer rating is 60th (during QB friendly era) -Never had a passer rating over 94 and was over 90 only 5 times -Lead the league in INT 3 times (TDs once)

@IanSane Год назад

I had no idea the hall of fame had a quota. That's ridiculous because baseball doesn't have that and has years where no one gets in. So really what Deion is asking for is a "new" hall of fame that's the REAL one and everyone will, wink wink, know that the inner wing is the real hall. Every hall of fame has questionable inclusions and kicking people out is a controversial idea but at best just fix the current system. The quota is a problem so get rid of it and the hall will get less watered down as the years go by. Baseball had a controversy where Frankie Frisch essentially inducted all his friends. Some bad hall of famers got in but they didn't kick them out or create a new sub-hall within the hall. They just tried to make sure that situation wouldn't happen again (until Harold Baines' friends screwed that up).

@iloveyoumadhuri Год назад

Some ideas to change the Hall of Fame voting standards: Get rid of the local writers. Other than their home team‘s players and blockbuster or household names, they do not know a damn thing about other candidates. Does anyone really think that Tom Curran of NBC Sports England knows enough about Patrick Willis or Bobby Wagner on why they deserve HOF Status? Would Dave Burkett, the Lions beat writer, know why Patrick Peterson is HOFer? Let an algorithm determine those who get inducted. Then the Hall of Famer’s can have one vote outside of those who have been inducted and one vote should also go to the writers and fans each. Then the “Sr. Candidates” should just be automatically (but charitably) let in.