Is Elden Ring TOO Hard? 

My friend in his first 4 hours: rushed to boss, died like 5 times. Rage quit Me in first 4 hours: ooo, what is that shiny thing over there! Boss? What boss!?

I think because of "get good" culture, there is a player base who thinks of the Souls games as a "boss rush" simulator and not as an RPG. Especially in such an open world environment like Elden Ring, which is designed to be explored and uncovered.

Hardest thing in ER is when you run out of larval tears and no tears left to farm

That guy that said "i found it more fun when i treated it like an rpg" Like... it's an rpg? I don't even understand how so people are approaching these games

As someone who started with Dark Souls 1 when it first came out, I’m realizing that many people who play souls games nowadays, especially those that are made by From Soft, have forgotten the very first character fans became enamored with. Solaire. His message was simple, become a Sunbro and team up for Jolly Co-operation. No one cares about that anymore. It’s all, “I can solo this boss and getting help is for losers.” People have forgotten Solaire and that makes me disappointed at new fans of the genre but even more so at those that started with him and forgot about him.

35% of the negative reviews on steam are Chinese complaining about the anti-cheat and the rest of the majority is about the pc performance issues. "Game is hard" is surprisingly a small portion of the negative reviews, just a loud minority.

"You either die a gamer, or live long enough to see yourself become a journalist" best quote for 2024

You're right about not having to go against bosses right away, but even after grabbing all scadutree fragments, the final boss was ridiculous.

Mona Lisa to Cohh: My eyes are up here.

Plus there is NO shame in summoning a friend. That's how the Soulsborne series was designed. The community aspect was always meant to be a huge part of it. You hit a roadblock. You feel trapped. You keep trying but die over and over and over and it feels hopeless. Some random person puts down a summon sign to carry you through because they've been there before and are offering a hand to lift you up telling you not to give up and we'll all work together.

Caster = easy?? Me as a caster dodging the dread dragon for 3 min straight before i can get one spell off before rolling for 3 more minutes...😅😢

Also ALSO, Elden Ring isn't just "Dodge the Game 4: Electric Boogaloo". There's jumping, low-profiling, spacing, straffing, poise tanking, blocking, and most recently spontaneous guarding to avoid damage and allow for much more immediate counter attack against enemies. Elden Ring gives a lot of options for casual, cheesy, and skill-based playstyles, so use 'em!

No. It's about as hard as base game. Engage with the mechanics. Explore. Upgrade. Come back.

so many people think YOU MUST PLAY THIS WAY or git gud. play the way you want. if you want to use summons do it. magic, do it. If you want to try to over gear everything, do it. If you want the challenge of lvl 1 no armor no upgrades do that. Its hard but its rewarding when you beat stuff. you adapt and overcome. if you dont want to do that... welp

The first time I played, after I got Torrent I just rode around for hours looking at the world and listening to the music while meeting NPCs and gathering shinies. It was so relaxing. When I went back to Santa I was shocked at how many golden runes and smithing stones I had.

If you actually played the DLC you will know how hard the final boss is. I thought “this DLC is not too hard”. However last boss changes my mind. You need to be a hardcore gamer to beat that boss without summons

It was wise to include the Shroud clip. People seem to forget how much fun a (RPG) game can be when you don't take the most efficient path to get the "best" gear for your character, making the rest of the game a breeze and removing the satisfaction of defeating a difficult boss. Good video!

I love this new YT team. The content is very engaging and fun to watch. Thanks!

People have too much ego to admit they have to change their playstyle or use summons. It's easier for them to blame the game.

One thing I think they should do is make larval tears farmable, so it's easier for the casual playerbase to try different builds without having to go ng+ etc to respec more often.

Realizing that I was not to fight and win vs the golden horse guy and Margit when I first encountered them, but just goof around in the massive surrounding area and level up a bit... that is what made the game fun. There's a lot to explore, and many challenges to find. If you don't feel like you're making a dent, then switch strategies or just park the encounter for later.

Cohh, this usage of a second channel may finally be the one that sticks. Love this video type while getting your opinions on different subjects.

I love the difficulty in this DLC and every bosses .I collected every scadutree but the final boss really just says F YOU. Hated that boss so much. It was my first time using a mimic tear and after hours I finally beat it and didn’t find any joy on that boss whatsoever. My frame rate dipped even with the lowest settings. That’s my only two issues I have with this game. The performances and the final boss fight

Agree with u cohh but there are also ALOT of steam reviews strictly on performance. The stuttering and fps drops during boss fights is disgusting on pc. Especially during the last boss holy, it stutters so bad it can eat inputs sometimes.

Radahn is literally the only hard part in the whole DLC. If you're having trouble with anything else you either didn't level your scadutree blessings or you're one of the tryhards that refuses to summon spirit ashes. Either way, the difficulty of the DLC is entirely on the player.

When you are stuck on Messmer for 3 days and nothing you do helps because you dont have the skill required. It does seem too hard. Then, you get him all the way down to 1 shot before he kills you and you realize there is hope. so now Im off farming a little more and upgrading a little more and soon Im gonna win. I hate this game for making me love it so hard.

I was exploring every nook and cranny, when I had a feeling (stake + summon) there was gonna be a boss fight and didn't feel like it I just marked the spot and went to explore some more/try to progress questlines/do a PoI I had saved for later. This way I never felt stuck(except for when I ran out of zones to explore and struggled to find a way into the ones I had left) and thus had a great time.

The other incredibly annoying thing is that there are a bunch of people telling you to play the game in a certain way.... (Think of summoning, magic etc)

I mean you are not wrong, but I also do not have a job playing a video game and do not have the time to spend hundreds of hours trying different builds and different things to just be able to beat one boss.

My only problem is I only have a NG+8 character, going ng+8 into the DLC is absolute bonkers hard and rerolling a new character takes too much time

A good portion of the "Mixed Reviews" do have to do with the performance issues which include severe stuttering/fps drops which can be incredibly frustrating in a game where timing is so important.

To give more context to what Cohh is saying, there were MULTIPLE reviews on steam stating that they're refused to use summons and the progression system from the DLC, and giving it a bad review for it, some even encouraging review bombing por the matter. So, just as the video says, you have the game incentivizing the player to use the progression for you and your summons and people refusing to do it, accusing that the developers have put artificial difficult with huge HP bars and one shooting you when the way they're rushing it is like you would rush to Malenia in the base game with a level 10 character and a weapon +0. People put themselves a challenge, failed to achieve that challenge, and instead of realiaze that they're not good enough in the game and they need to improve and understand mechanics, they decided to review bomb the game.

I think the big issue with the DLC is that there's nothing to gauge whether or not you should be fighting whatever you're fighting. In the base game, you're taught that the Grafted Scion is too tough for you because it's a scripted death. So when you bump into the similarly difficult Tree Sentinel, you know they want you to skip over it for now. In the DLC, you can start by going either left, right, or forward. Every direction leads to an enemy that kills you in one or two hits (the gaol knight on the left, the spinny dude on the way to the map, or the beast claw guy on the right). Everything in the DLC kills you in two hits until you up your blessing count. So why not just get blessings? That's what you're supposed to do, but I don't think that's communicated very well to the player through gameplay. You do just have to struggle past extremely lethal enemies for a bit until your blessing is high enough to take down a boss. I think it would have been much clearer if certain enemies didn't one shot you, so you have a gauge to understand how unprepared you are for a particular boss, but the regular enemies and bosses both one shot you wherever you go, so why would you think you need to come back later? I think it would also help if every dungeon you come across rewarded you with a blessing, but you can explore for hours without receiving a single one. The progression is inconsistent and unclear. That's why it feels so difficult. There's also no excuse when it comes to the final boss. You can have max blessings and the fight still might be impossible for you.

Its totally fine to have a difficult game or a difficult DLC, but you should set clear expectations with your audience so not to let them down before they purchase it

The whole fragment upgrade thing is there for a reason but it's also pretty clear that a lot of bosses have become more Revenant like, and everyone hates revenants. It's a ratio of how much control you have over the situation. When it starts going into the 20% and less range you start hating it.

My main (and pretty much only) issue with this game is the amount of bosses that are so big you can't tell what they are doing when you're close enough to hit them. That's with or without the camera lock on. In some cases, the camera being locked on makes things even worse. also not hugely keen on the huge amounts of empty space in the open world either but that's a minor thing. Otherwise, the DLC has been great

If you are struggling, if you are having a hard time, just summon help. Solo runs are for the hardcore players who *want to handicap themselves.* I have beaten the final boss of the DLC, who took me 53 attempts to solo, who was a brutal monster of a fight 1v1. I have been summoned to help others for that fight, and have seen that same boss that took me almost 5 hours to beat, lose half his health in 10 seconds to a felllow summoned cooperator. You can absolutely *trivialize this game* if you want to.

Was tough in the beginning, but after a bit of adjustment to how the enemies behave its been a blast.

Absolutely. When I realised how strong Scadutree Upgrades are, I went 19/20 and killed every boss ( no summons or mimic ) within less than 10 tries. Except for the last one. That one's absolute bull and I feel no guilt killing him with my Mimic Tear.

something that would help with the difficulty is, remove larval tears, the simple fact they exist make you not want to try new builds

I have elden ring but won't be buying this. Elden ring was pretty easy and a fun enough game. IT was rather easy and didn't have enough story for me, but i had fun. THis DLC is too difficult and really does seem to show glaring difference in build balance. I liked elden ring because i could do whatever i want and have a fun time. I dont want to be pigeon holed to slap on a shield and summon to kill the bosses in this DLC. Even JP did this on a boss he freaking loved and hoped would be there before the dlc dropped. The story isn't good enough for game play i wont enjoy.

It’s always fascinating to me that I can spend 6 hours beating Consort Radahn and then two days later beat the same boss in 10 minutes on a harder NG cycle. It’s the same as it’s always been. People bitch and then they learn and then it’s a masterpiece. Yeah, it started as a masterpiece. And that process is part of what makes it so great.

Well said, I get people in my comments saying they're still stuck on bosses but won't try my strategies to beat them. That tells you everything you need to know.

Who the hell plays games like this just to run at bosses. Games like this... ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS, are meant to be explored and experienced in their entirety. Leave speed running to the speed runners and only choose to play on brutal-mode if that's your preferred playstyle.

The bosses are great especially the first 3 boss fights if FS actually optimised their game and not make me fight the frame rate. There’s also one bosses with terrible camera and the final boss straight up just made me had 10 fps and that you can’t see even with full Scadutree blessings. It’s okay to say Fromsoftware isn’t perfect. Even Elden Ring at base launch was laggy

I think its disingenuous to say that you don't run at bosses over and over. Because thats what the older games tell you to do. People on reddit were telling people that thought it was hard that it normally takes them days or weeks to beat a boss. So I think from definitely should have shown a cutscene that was unskippable to explain you need scadu fragments.

"Git gud" is a curse people put on themselves without knowing the weight

Good video. Substance wise it could go on the main channel and hold its own. As for the DLC, it's the first time in my many playthroughs of ER that I had to acknowledge that forcing one weapon/build setup down a boss' throat is not the way to go. I run Death's Poker which is too slow for the likes of the Blackgaol Knight, so I adapt. I pickup a Cold MIlady with piercing fang to poise break and shield pierce. Sometimes, Moonveil Katana works better with the tempo of the fight. I'll even pick up a Bolt of Gransax for those annoying Flameknights, or Dragonslayer Katana for, well, dragons. Changing up your weapon/spell/incantation loadouts and playstyle to suit the specific boss/enemy you're fighting getes you a lot further in the DLC than it did in the base game.

Every build should have 60 Vigor Every build should have 60 Vigor Every build should have 60 Vigor Every build should have 60 Vigor Every build should have 60 Vigor I don't care what weapons or spells you're using. The endgame and the dlc is set up for most players to be able to survive at least one hit of the boss's strongest attack from full hp. 60 Vigor is the standard. There is no vigor build. You might get away with 45 if you're 100% ranged, or you might just be good enough to complete the game with much less. That's great. But you are an outlier. You cannot expect the average experience to be based around getting one-shot. 60 is not a specialized vigor build. It's standard issue. It's meant to be the average experience.

I thought elden ring DLC was hard. Then I started finding the tree fragments and it got so much easier.

My experience in the DLC was that I came there at lvl 127 after the main game. I had 4-5 +25 weapons, my faith was pumped up enough to give myself the necessary buffs, mimic +10. I spent the first 4-6 hours in the DLС collecting fragments and reverse ash. But most importantly, I had a ready-made build that I loved and cherished throughout the main campaign. And the result of all this is that I didn’t die even once in the first bosses. I died more than 15 times on Mesmer alone. I defeated Radan on the 39th attempt with the help of a mimic and a heavy set + amulets and buffs. In short, I was ready and understood what was going on. What I mean by this is not that the DLC is not difficult, but that you have all the tools to defeat the bosses. Good luck friends

Great job, editors. These kind of videos are fantastic

WTF "I treated it more like an RPG this time." What the hell were you doing before?

When I fought Messmer I was using a flame art Fire Knights Greatsword. Wouldn’t yuh know it, he’s resistant to fire!! So I left, grabbed a few scadutree fragments, switched to moonveil for magic and bleed damage and next time I fought him it took me 30 minutes or less and now he’s my favorite fight of all time. So you can literally have sooooo many ways to play this game it’s actually insane.

I initially thought the DLC was too hard, I must have died 20 times to the Black Gaol Knight in that first Mausoleum. I did what I always do in Elden Ring; come back later when I am tougher. With a a bunch more durability and power, I came back, and found him much easier. In fact, all the Mausoleum fights after that were simple because I had learned the mechanics of those types of fights. Same with all the dragons, furnace golems, etc. It truly is a wonderful game and a wonderful DLC.

I think people confuse being hard with simply being flawed. And ER is very flawed. The multilayered noisy shitspam direction From (and so many other devs) is taking is the issue here. And it just so happens that the final boss of the DLC is the cranked to the max example of it. Hyperarmor, hyperagression, those are the lazy, bare minimum techniques in combat design. Let's not settle for the lowest.

I'm not saying it's too hard, but what I'm saying is that it's no longer fun for me to play. The base game was hard, but ultimately it always felt fair to me, but this feeling is gone for me in the dlc. I can defeat the bosses and I did, but winning felt no longer rewarding, I just felt exhausted and burned out after the later boss fights. It feels like the dlc is forcing certain playstyles on me that I personally don't like. Those scadutree fragments for example are a terrible band aid solution for a problem they created because "getting stronger" the regular way is no longer possible at some point. On top of that there's super janky hitboxes especially on the larger enemies and at least on pc the performance is abysmal. Frame drops to 18 fps when Messmer spawns a couple snakes is inexcusable for a game that doesn't push any graphical boundaries. Maybe I'll try it again in 6 months or so once all the performance and balance patches are in but for now it just doesn't feel good to play it.

It's like trying to play Chess, losing to Scholars Mate over and over again, then saying Chess is bad and too hard.

Realizing that the reputation of "very difficult" is a translation for "another way of playing" was one of the best discoveries I made. It opened up a range of new possibilities for me.

This is the exact same narrative when the DLC for both Dark Souls 2 and 3 came out and game is too hard. Game is too hard, The Fromsoftware team has to challenge both veterans and newcomers to the genre after they finished the game and that is not easy and this new difficulty is rather nice since it only affects the DLC and not the base game. If the situation is reversed and those New Game Plus+8 characters just will just bump rush the DLC and say the DLC is too easy. One thing is for certain Critical thinking seems to have gone down when it comes to the gaming sphere, rather than finding solutions we get people do one thing and if that doesn't work quit. The offers myriads of solution and not everything is my way or the highway. Hopefully these shed some light on a lot of people's expectations for Fromsoftware soulslike games. There are some aspects of the DLC that I didn't like but difficulty is not one of those regardless it has been fun for me and hopefully those who are interested to continue will have an enjoyable journey.

after beating dlc (~19h) lvl 120 no summons/shield/ranged attacks, scadtree 18, Hookclaws build, i dont think dlc too hard. Final boss might need some tweaks, but im talking no "deals less damage" but more like "reduce flashbang whole screen bs" or maybe some agression reduction. Also, my fps dips from pretty stable 60 to 13 during one of his attacks so thats kinda sucks, but other than that difficulty seems okay

the only thing about this is that getting upgrade materials are a hassle, and the maingame was too big to get something that fit into your build without doing multiple similar dungeons

What I really enjoy from the difficulty of the DLC is that it forces me to use all the tools at my disposal. Such as all the consumables that boost your defence or offense, or armours with particularly high stats useful for particular bosses, etc.

Completely agree. The DLC is hard, but some people tend to just make the game harder for themselves by sticking to the "boss rush" and trying to speed run it. Most of them probably don't use summons which is encouraged through the new Revered Ashes you pick up occasionally. It's an open world game so you are kinda expected to explore it... As well as also being an RPG, which allows you to experiment with different weapons, spells, talismans etc. Sometimes it might just be enough to swap a couple of talismans.

Confused about this take. Isn't the whole point of an RPG to create a build for your character and then play that build?

You can explore all you want and collect all the scadutree fragments in the game, but if you want to beat Bale, Commander Gaius, or Radahn in a fair 1v1 without summons or spirit ashes, the average seasoned souls vet is going to have a really bad time and will probably give up eventually. Or they'll do what I did and reluctantly level up and equip a stupid looking oversized great-shield just to put the whole ordeal behind them. If you're going to force people to play a certain way, then just make more games like Sekiro. Don't give us endless choices if only a handful are viable. It's too hard because it's poorly balanced.

I just started playing Elden Ring, and it is difficult, but I enjoy being creative with my approach. I’m playing a spellcaster and mixing it with stealth. I’m patient and like to explore. I haven’t gotten far, but I’m enjoying filling out the map, and doing some grinding. I’m not touching a boss until I’m more confident in my stats. I grew up on old school grindy rpgs, so it feels natural for me to approach it this way. A lot of younger gamers haven’t had that experience of having to spend hours leveling up before defeating a boss. Games today hold your hand in ways old ones didn’t, so they don’t really understand working toward it. An open world game isn’t meant to be sped through. It’s an experience. Granted, I’m probably going to get my butt kicked, anyway, but I’m enjoying myself, regardless.

I dont want to be forced to summon. final boss phase 2 is a nightmare

I haven't had this much fun falling down a hole and following my nose EVER. After giving us a lovely map in the base game, they went and added multiple levels of verticality that make the map almost functionally useless UNTIL you've been through the area at least once. Realising the ways in which the areas knit together has led to some experiences on a level with the first time you take the lift down from the church in Dark Souls, step out, and hear the Firelink Shrine music playing and just FEEL safe. It's bloody marvellous. On the subject of difficulty, the only time I've come across something that made me froth at the mouth is the armoured furnace golem that WILL NOT stop spamming the tracking fireballs, and I just can't get over him to hefty pot him to death. It's super frustrating because I know I only have to do it once, and never again. Just give me the tear and let me move on with my life. 😂😂😂😭😭😭

Even the Namco page said "We recommend to use the Scadutree Fragments"

It’s not about the difficulty, for these reviews. some people are looking at this in a tunnel vision and just thinks everyone who gave a negative review finds it too hard. There’s also performance issue. It also affects the frame rate in the base game. Bosses have too many visual overdose that makes you have 20fps. There’s also several bugs that you can lose and can’t progress through an NPC questline. I was stuck with 19 scadutree blessings and not fully 20 because of a bug. Also don’t get me started on the last boss.

If the game is built around respeccing to counter specific fights, then the respec item should be farmable or buyable in unlimited amounts.

I think the reason people feel the DLC is harder is due to the progression system. In the base game, if you were struggling, you could explore and level up. Since the first levels hugely impact stats, it made a huge difference. But in the DLC, they expect you to already be pretty high level. The transition from 150 to 200 doesn’t impact your stats as much as 100 to 150. So you HAVE TO collect the scadutree fragments to actually feel progression.

most games of this age are most easy mode gaming...thankfully we got elden ring to bring us back to a real challenge

I explored and I liked every bosses except the last boss in phase 2. WTF is that? had to cheese it. Didn’t feel satisfied. Probably the worst last boss they ever made

The reality is that you can be mad or think people or stupid or bad but in the end theyre just people like all the millions playing the dlc. If there is a significant amount of people playing your game that are having a similarly negative experience, then the fault is of the game, not the people. I believe this is just a fact, you can make arguments why they should do this or should know that or shouldnt have done this, and it could all be true. It does not change the fact that a significant amount of people did not come to those realizations, all while playing the same game you did. The developer can then figure out whether making the changes to make these players experiences better are possible without making less the experience of the others.

Most souls players want fair challenge. Using summons is basicly selecting easy mode and not challenge at all because you crush everything withot breaking a sweat. All the content of DLC is not hard, except for 2 phase final boss that is really unfair hard with some really stupid moves and blinding lights, that is the only problem with the game i have, everything else is 10/10.

No, it's hard for sure but not too hard, explore the world, try our different builds and weapons, use summons unless you give a shit about what total strangers tell you about using them, get used to dying. These bosses arent just a "ley me just spam attacks and dodge at random" fights. You need to learn the moves, seek out openings, watch guides to see what the bosses are weak to. I think people were just expecting to cheese through the dlc because they are high level and beat the main game, that is NOT the case.

Also pictured here: Cohh, a player not having seen any hard boss yet, telling people that have beaten the DLC who say it is hard and the last boss is simply too hard, that they are wrong and just doing it wrong.

12/10 video. Love the comparisons. If you want more challenge, there are ways; this is no longer Dark Souls or Bloodborne, where when you hit a wall, you are stuck at it and the only way to overcome is to "git gud" or farm levels. ER has an entire open world with plethora of sidestuff to bash your head against, learn, improve, and actually "git gud".

One thing that I have learned is that there is no point in fighting bosses again and again for hours. Instead analyze the fight and identify what killed you. Only try again if you have a solution for that particular move. Then try again, and repeat the process.

The DLC was the first time throughout my various playthroughs that I equipped more than one weapon (aside from dual wielding) to swap between, just 'cause I quickly began to realize how various builds were much easier against some threats, while other viable builds were harshly shut down by other threats. It meant I had to wear lighter armor to compensate for the weight, but overall I had a much easier time with the game when I started doing that.

Some the bosses are just out right annoying and broken because they attack you as soon as you pass through the fog wall and no build period is "good" against that

On many points I absolutely agree. The game almost felt like a callback to Margit in a lot of ways. a) Roll into attacks, and more importantly b) YOU CAN COME BACK LATER I have explored the entire map, I've gotten every Scadutree Fragment, and overall exploring has been absolutely amazing... but yes, there is a "However" There's a difference between "Difficult" and "Poor Boss Design". -Rellana? A difficult but beautiful fight! It's a dance that goes back and forth. An aggressive partner giving me little room to breathe, yet completely fair in all that she did. -Senessax? (The ancient dragon in the pond). Stand in front, roll caught by lighting. Stand under, can't see the attacks. Try to use torrent, and you get hit mid-air behind the dragon by an attack made to the front. It's a reused boss, in an environment it wasn't meant for. -Messmer? Aggressive, but incredibly fun moveset. You feel suffocated, yet getting those strikes in during those sweet interludes feels amazing. -Consort Radahn? A decently easy first phase leads into a shower of holy bullshit that feels horrific to play against. A lot of this can boil down to a phrase the player says after getting killed in the boss fight. "Dammit, I fucked up there" versus "This is bullshit, god dammit" Both are the result of a boss you're struggling to beat, but the difference is good vs bad design. I'm no veteran. I played Elden Ring as my first Souls like and played it fully 3 times. Then I played Sekiro and played through that. Then Dark Souls III and its DLC. Both of these were amazing games btw. But for the first time, after exploring all of the DLC and getting all the possible upgrades I could... I'm throwing in the towel. Even defeating Consort Radahn wouldn't give me satisfaction. I let my story end with Bayle on top of the Jagged Peak, and I think I'd rather let it end on a fulfilling and happy conclusion than one with my last words in the DLC being "Thank god that's over"

Game is too easy with summons but by itself it's a worthwhile challenge but the DLC forces you to respec and experiment more than anything. I was stuck with Mesmer for a while until I did respect. Summons do break the game wide open though, much different experience.

I went into the DLC with a +25 uchigatana and a bleed build, I struggled with some things but I got the Milady, maxed it out and added the Wing Stance ashes and freeze, suddenly I was bullying that Blackgaol Knight and his 3 mates like they weren't there, just "L2+R1" stunlocking them to the point where I almost (almost) felt cheap. That was MY journey, I like hearing other peoples different ones.

It's tedious rather than hard. Enemies are supper aggro with long combo lengths and very small punish windows which drags fights out far longer than they should be.

We shit on every Bethesda game because their difficulty tuning is "deal less damage, take more damage." Elden Ring shouldn't get a pass that their difficulty tuning is essentially the same thing and if people think the system is underwhelming or even bad then it's understandable.

But what about people who don't want to explore, and just want to play through the story. Is there no room for them in Elden Ring?

Its hard because every streamer sticks with the first weapon they pick up and never use crafting, summons, try different elemental damage to find enemy weakness. The game is actually very forgiving

So we not gonna talk about everything else like fps, glitches in questlines and scadutree seeds being missing? I think some of these reviewers giving it mixed with the exception of it being too difficult is fine.

I found that I became more successful in playing elden ring when I embraced the idea of changing my build, trying different approaches, and fucking around for a few hours elsewhere before coming back and trying again. It seems to me like that's the point. Be adaptable

What do you mean you can play smart, smell the roses and dont have to rush to the end?? :D

The reason I struggle to like this isn't so much the difficulty, but the emptiness of some of the areas and the repetitive use of enemies. Doesn't have the sense of wonder and surprise like the main game has.

It's not too hard, the bosses just aren't fun to fight. There are plenty of op builds and tools that can take care of most if not all bosses fairly easily, yet i don't know a single playstyle that would make me enjoy these bosses more than bosses in dark souls 3, bloodborne or sekiro. Everything else is 10/10, but i already thought the base game bosse were a downgrade of previous titles and the dlc is worse.

I beat the final boss yesterday, at level 190, lv18 blessing, NG, 60 vig, and a STR FTH build, no summons, and Most of the Expansion's bosses gave me some trouble. I found that at several points, when something wasn't working that I needed to switch up my strategy, use a different weapon, Spell, Ash of War, Etc. I had Ten different weapons on my character that I could comfortably use for different situations and found and upgraded several more throughout the expansion. I do think that the, "Too Hard", argument is multifaceted. Some people beeline to bosses without finding any Scadutree blessings, or have one build that they don't want to change, or some people don't have enough health, or some people don't have ranged weapons, or some people don't use shields, or combination of those factors. I had to use many things that I don't typically and found myself needing to adapt to those boss fights when a particular tactic wasn't working. I can imagine that for many players that don't do that or fall into one of those previously stated categories that this DLC could be exceptionally difficult. The game gives you the tools, its up to you as the player to utilize them.

To be fair, asmon's clip was taken out of context. He said it was a 10/10, but just to hard for him.

Never thought Id see the day that KAI CENAT basically told asmongold "Get good bum" .

I think there is a problem here this line of thinking, and why I believe that the reviews are valid, is that the discrepancy between the builds is massive. Let's say you use a shield and spear build, or really powerful summons, the bosses become so easy that it doesn't feel as satisfying to defeat them. Obviously this is just my point of view.

Lmao most Steam reviews are about the DLC running like complete ass