Is Everyone Else WRONG? We Drag Race the Ford F-150 Raptor R vs the Ram TRX with Surprising Results! 

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Andre is definitely milking it for the video lol his reactions are always exaggerated but he's a cool dude lol

Came here to see this comment. I can't take the kid serious when he's so lackadaisical behind the wheel.

Case also needs to scoot the seat up a bit further in the TRX so he can go full throttle! 😂

Not holding the steering wheel properly at 3 and 9 o'clock may cost him his (and maybe others) life someday in many different circumstances...... I fell asleep driving home after nightshift one time, and because i was holding the steering wheel properly, I woke up when my arms hit my legs. If I had been holding the steering wheel with one hand at the bottom, may not be writing this now...

@@alsheremeta Sounds like less of a problem with how the wheel is held, and more of a problem with driving while falling asleep.

Not only that, the TRX is in 4 wheel drive the entire time and the raptor r has a 2 wheel drive rear option.

Well if you're going to make excuses for that POS Ford then we get to make upgrades to the TRX

No need to make excuses, it’s clearly the faster truck even running on 37’s.

My condolences 🙄

Yet one might ever see is one Raptor R ever in that dealership....

Ford is garbage just look how much y’all spent on recalls last year .. wait till these new trucks get a couple years old lol you’re gonna have your hands full. I talked my friend out of getting a new maverick and into a used Subaru outback for this reason not gonna let him guinea pig your guys new Teck junk for you. Y’all broke records last year with the crap you put out and not in a good way. I can’t believe somebody would buy one of these new trucks and think for a second it’s gonna last him anywhere near as long as the trucks you guys made 20 years ago did

The American carmaker issued a total of 67 recalls in 2022, a full 22 recalls more than the next highest manufacturer, Volkswagen, which filed 45 recalls. Daimler Trucks follows closely behind at 42 recalls in 2022, with Stellantis coming up fourth at 38 recalls. Rounding out the top five with 35 recalls is Forest River Inc., a recreational vehicle manufacturer. Out of those 67 recalls, 12 of them are powertrain related, according to the DOT. A further eight recalls had to do with "back over prevention," which usually relates to back-up cameras or sensors malfunctioning. Other causes for recalls at Ford include electrical system faults, fuel system problems, and airbag malfunctions. Ford has been dealing with quality issues for years. It's struggled to launch new models on time and recalls, complaints, and warranty claims have weighed heavily on service departments, driving down the company's bottom line. In a recent interview, CEO Jim Farley said fixing quality was the brand's "number one priority," and that "it’s going to take several years" to make it right.

@@joatmon1857 - still drive ford since 1998, Zero issues. Yes recalls, but there were zero issues otherwise.

I really wish greed wasn’t a factor and that there wasn’t 3 different models of the gen three 3.5 w/35” tires, 3.5 w/37” tires and then the raptor r. Wish every truck was just a raptor r.

@@waynekeizer5720 the V6 is better for offroading. Better torque profile, less weight (less pogoing off the front shocks), and better fuel efficiency.

i had faith in the TRX but it lags greatly against the Raptor R..smh😢

I think that depends on what type of off roaring your doing. I have the 3.5 gen 3 and I deff wish I had more power. But I live in Arizona in the desert so we have a lot more high speed stuff here then like somewhere like Colorado. I do think they should have just came with 37”s across the board for sure though.

@@waynekeizer5720 Fair point. In Texas we mostly have hard stuff that even really built machines have to slow down for....so power is rarely an issue. Tbh, there's maybe 1 or two times where I really wanted more power, and in those situations I'm not sure I'd have been able to put it down anyway. Now that my favorite off-road park is shut down, I'm even more envious of the great public land y'all have to play in!

Would be awesome if they also had the first Gen SVT Raptor I'll take the first Gen even though it's not in this video Raptors are proven and tested and used in the BAJA 1,000 where the TRX is not tested or used in the BAJA 1,000 to actually say it's King of OFF Road Trucks

Raptor R also is super ridiculously expensive as well which is unfortunate

@@texandy89 so the Hummer EV 🙄😅😂

@@carllovullo6602 yes I know I'll never be into in fully electric vehicles the Hummer EV is just a show truck that's it

@texandy89 gotta pay to play. Honestly the regular raptor will be plenty enough for most people. If you don't off road just buy a 5.0l f150 and put a Whipple on it. It would handle a raptor easily.

I know right? At this point I think racing it is a bit sketchy lol

I'm surprised the Ford made it!

@@fireant1272 First On Race Day

@@fireant1272 Ford has always made it that's why dodge worked for Ford cuz they wish they could be their daddy Ford.

@@fordflexking2014 my EcoBoost only made it to 23k miles then had major issues. My 6.0 diesel only made it to 60k miles then had major issues they had to take the cab off to rebuild motor lastly my 5.4 triton only made it to 90k miles then it kept blowing out spark plugs and transmission went out. Junk junk junk.

You are showing zero respect for the climate hoax. How dare you be an independent thinker in 2023.

@@ihelpidiots5102 hahahaha

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And 100$ of electricity

Thanks to our current administration it only used $75 in gas that now costs $200!

I believe in miracles

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10 minutes after filming was over...

I like seeing the goal post get moved when combustion vehicles get smoked. 😂 like Dodge is known for their reliability! 😂

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This regular raptor is on 37s

@@Tallnerdyguy The 3.5 TT Raptors come with 35s or 37s.

@@Tallnerdyguy no they don't. The 37" tires are an additional, more expensive option...

@@richfarfugnuven6308 Read his post again, he said "This", not all Raptors.

@Gary S he also says "regular". Regular Raptors are on 35" tires. This is an additional, more expensive option, which is what I was pointing out...

Big difference between a pushrod 2 valve that’s 20 years old (in its 3rd generation) and a dohc 4 valve that was designed from the ground up in 2010.

One had a predator engine? Like the harbor freight lawn mower engine? Pretty neat

@@pryme2013 I'm on my way to harbor freight to get a few right now! my mini bike is gonna smoke that raptor R

Hellcat more durable

@@ronldg805heck yeah dude 😎😂

Heres to hoping the TRX Demom comes out lol

@@robertsoria9293 my god💀🤤

Basically the trx is better because you are getting almost the same thing as the raptor r but like 50k dollars less

You guys are a joke

TRX In real life

Gas sounds bad try diesel for sound 7.3 hopped up no smoke all power

@marcusjennifer785 Bro just wants to be “different.”

Yes....but Car & Driver claimed that after 110 mph @ 11.1 seconds the RaptorR's speed limiter started kicking in already and holding it back.

@@johnyvoth4916 fr.

@@richardmodglin3900 that's going to be the case for any of these big off road trucks. They are speed limited due to their tires.

@@howiekearney I know why they have a limiter. What I was pointing out was that the speed limiter started kicking in well before 114 mph limiter.

@@richardmodglin3900 oh really? I misunderstood. So you're saying the limiter was pre mature? Maybe a slight variance with the speedo be gps. They are rarely the same.

It’s not even burly, it sounds straight up like a race car in Baja mode.

hahah it wouldnt win the third race

Ford sucks!

Why wouldn't it again? 🤔

@@4literv6 it’s broken down like 4 times 😂

@@freedomisntfree_44 ah gotcha so because Roman has issues with his it's unreliable then?

Same

Other video shows trx wins It's the driver I guess

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I’m not a Ram guy, but I do wish they had kept their TRX since it was the first one off the assembly line and for sentimental reason. Also wish they had kept their blue 1st gen Raptor from years ago.

I owned a Gen2 Raptor and now I own a TRX, and although the Raptor R is the faster truck now, I will take a TRX all day long at my 82k price tag for a fully loaded one vs the 110k price tag for the Raptor R. I cant see paying 6 figures for a truck.

@@sensei2121 you have a point, however it was not too long ago when all the Ram fanbois were all crazy about the TRX being a better truck than the Raptor, not realizing it’s because it’s $10-15 thousand more than the Raptor at the time.

@@sensei2121 the reason behind the hefty price tag of R is the Predator engine. It’s over $40000 alone as a crate engine.

Raptor R comes stock with 37” tires

So what? The RAM weighs 500 pounds more even with the smaller tires and it has 18 inch wheels vs the 17 inch wheels on the raptor. The TRX has brakes that are over one inch bigger than the Raptor R’s. The TRX also has heavier duty D load rated tires versus the Raptors C rated which makes them heavier per inch. So in total the one inch bigger wheels, higher load rating, and 1+ inch bigger brakes are heavier in rotational mass than the 2 inch bigger tires on the Raptor. The Raptor also has a 4.1 final ratio vs the TRX 3.55 & 10 speed transmission vs the 8 speed on the RAM so any gearing advantage of the smaller tire diameter is nullified plus some.

@@epap1375 You have an excuse for every race you lose, don't you?? LOL!!!!

@@epap1375 right, the raptor R is way better than a TRX

@@jacobwalls452 it’s better not way better and deff not 50+K better. You can buy a TRX and a mustang GT for the same price as a Raptor R. Once ford dealerships stop fleecing people than it would be a viable option at msrp until then it only makes sense for the filthy rich or die hard ford fan boys

Wouldnt have made a difference

Thank you for watching.

they both sounded pretty amazing. I think the raptor sounded a bit better but damn they both sound mean!

Andre in both trucks the TRX went 13.13 to the raptors 13.29 the TRX still wins the kid couldn't launch it.

@@1wide7 13.31 for the Ram

World record for the TRX is 3.6 0-60 and 12.1 quarter mile. At sea level, on a prepped strip. The Raptor R matched those numbers when it was half a mile above sea level and on a road.

@@The-fs5wn More than just drag times though. There are more settings to the TRX that could be optimized for this. How do they both do in a Baja setting instead of a flat race, which they're more made for.

@@teacatstudios3236 Raptor wins Off-road pretty much, it's already been said many times over that it's much more confidence inspiring and has a way better balance in weight and suspension so when it jumps or hits hard bumps it absorbs and lands properly and soft. Very polished and poised and well mannered. The TRX is good too, but it's heavy front weight and overall abilities don't match the Raptor as well.

I think its been proven that brake boost is quicker than launch control on the TRX. I believe I saw that on one of the earlier Hennessey videos, when they started messing with TRXs

Came here to say the same.

They didn't launch the R correctly. Have to turn of TC and use auto hold per Ford as best launching.

The altitude raptor probably sucks in more air then the trx

Yes cause the TRX is clearly the fastest.

Yes if the Raptor driver makes a mistake the TRX can win. If the race is clean the Raptor wins.

The TRX can win is people how to used like the launch control

@@iandelgado634 they did use the launch control

Unfortunately you'll be lucky to get around anywhere without breaking down.

@@jasonmeldrum7686 ur talking with what car?

Excuses

Modern day trucks don't like to be messed with at launch. You're just inviting torque management to show it's face and bog you out.

@@WilliamStewart1 the raptors actually can take a little brake boost. It will help eliminate some turbo lag that Case had. But most newer trucks have their systems limiting them

Yes for sure. A lot of people don't realize the tires make a huge difference! Either way both badass trucks 🤘

The stock BFGs on my Gen 2 were maxed out at 109, better off-road tires are less than that. The V6 is best for off-road applications - but the TRX and R are marketed to those who care more about theoretical specs than actual performance off-road. If you wanted to really be fast on the road you'd get a HO 3.5 Platinum or a Lightning. A tuned Gen 2 will outpace a TRX, but they usually die after about 100k.

@T4nkcommander The RaptorR tires are rated at 114 mph.... which the speed limiter is set at. However, Car And Driver claimed that the limiter started holding the RaptorR back after 110mph. They claim the RaptorR should have gone from 110mph to 112 mph in half the time. They got RaptorR to 110 in 11.1 sec and TRX in 11.8 seconds respectively.

Ha, my 2010 Tundra 4x4 longbox will do 116 mph before the limiter kicks in..

@@richardmodglin3900 that's because the stock raptor is limited to 108 because that's what the stock tires are rated for. I find it hard to believe the R tires are rated for more than that, but no doubt they didn't change the limiter value. Most other off-road tires are rated for less speed.

Or when it’s on the back of a diesel truck being hauled in for repairs

Way to prove you know absolutely NOTHING about crude oil refining. Hint it uses massive amounts of chemicals, energy, water and electricity plus cobalt to refine every single gallon of gas or diesel used. 👍🏻😂

Amen to that brother man

That kid didn’t know how to launch the TRX properly.

I had a 5.2l auto 2wd 99 Dakota. The thrill of lighting up the back tires is still more exciting then modern vehicle. Tho it doesn't carry over into the high end

I am glad the TRX exists. The Ford is the obvious choice, but the TRX is a great option for drivers who's sexual preference is "family". People who date their sister need fun too! thanks, Dodge!

😂😂😂😂😂 gtfoh dodge Dakota

But before that he was rolling in his grave about the Mach e an the New Lightning 😂

@@stephencontreras8322 he resurrected and died again after he found out it was called a Mustang Mach E

Honestly, ole Henry would probably be rolling in his grave. The man was extremely resistant to change and technology. He initially wanted to keep all Model T's 4 cylinders and didn't like the idea of adding a V8 the lineup and he also refused to incorporate hydraulic brakes even years after his competitors started using them, maintaining the added complication wasn't worth the benefit over mechanical brakes. I say all this as a Ford guy who thinks the Raptor R is cool as hell, but it just is what it is, or more appropriately was what it was.

True to thank trx for pushing ford to do the V8. But thank ford for the whole segment 👍🏼

@@markrode7331 Yep, that's what I was going to say. This whole segment of high performance factory baja trucks exists because Ford dared to try it first. But credit is due to Ram for lighting a fire under Fords ass to put a V8 back under the hood of the Raptor, competition is good for everyone.

It took the TRX 10 years to get past the normal Raptor and it still lost the only desert race between the two by a significant amount.

It is 100%

Well in every video the raptor beats the TRX so you're incorrect bud

No the TRX smokes the Raptor 99% of the time.

@@susanestes418 not with both having the same size tires

@Susan Estes Really? Talk to Car and Driver, MotorTrend, and others to see the TRX lose. RaptorR beat TRX to 110 mph by 0.6 seconds. RaptorR does a 3.6 0-60 from a standing idle.... no launch control.

We all know it's a Ram.

Depending on what you use the trucks for but if you're really working/abusing them overloading while off road hauling or towing, chain and jerk pulling stumps ,snow plowing, pushing other trucks and equipment...then it's Ford.

Meter. Reading, pulling a trailer of siding, and antiquing is for the other 2.

In person they are very much not. The Raptor R is way louder, doesn’t drown out the V8 noise with supercharger whine, and sounds much more akin to a NASCAR engine. It almost sounds like a straight up aftermarket exhaust, like something you would find from Borla, Magnaflow, or Akrapovic.