Is Ghetsis The STRONGEST Pokemon Evil Team Leader? 

I just always imagined that Ghetsis treated his Hydreigon so badly that it evolved early out of spite

Like how Giovanni evolved his Rhydon into Rhyperior. I can see Gheetis evolving his Bisharp into Kingambit and of course using ability capsule to change its ability into Supreme Overlord makes sense because both Gheetis and Kingambit are leaders.

Ghetsis is also the last Boss you have to defeat before Giovanni during the Rainbow Rocket arc if I recall correctly, this placement is very interesting as it implies that he is more powerful than Maxie, Archie, Cyrus and Lysander

You say that Cofagrigus is a silly looking pokemon to open with, but consider this: Ghetsis literally opens the fight by showing you a coffin. He's symbolically telling you he's going to kill you.

also the best villain writing wise in my opinion. I love how he says in B2W2 "I tried to manipulate people's hearts, now Im going to control unova with an iron fist". badass

Ghetsis may not have been the most powerful villain in the franchise but without a doubt he will always be remembered as the most evil one, I still remember how impressed I was when in B/W 2 he literally tries to kill the main character, I certainly did not expect that😵 But even so, I still remember struggling quite a bit with that fight back in the day, definitely a memorable adversary.

I think that the reason why Ghetsis has an underleveled Hydreigon is because BW1’s level curve is less steep compared to other games, so it would’ve been bad game design if you just fought a bunch of Level 50 mons but then Ghetsis throws out a Level 64 Hydreigon. Maybe they could have solved this by spacing out the mid-game gyms a bit more to at least raise the level curve so that Ghetsis could have a Level 64 Hydreigon.

I think Ghetsis in the sequels was made easier due to the fact that he isn't the final boss, unlike in BW.

"Cofagrigus is far more goofy looking compared to the rest of his team" *Proceeds to talk about buffalo with big puffy afro seconds later*

His Hydreigon was the bane of my existence in my first play through of Black and White. I also loved the fact that his Hydreigon’s personality is mad because it basically confirms that Ghetsis most likely abused his Hydreigon and that’s why it evolved so early

Ghetsis was indeed a "Final Boss" challenge! When I battled him in White, I was already mentally drained from battling N

In Cofagrigus's defense, it may look goofy but still poses a danger to humans in its Dex entry. (Specifically grave robbers.) Also, I just recall the old theory that Ghetsis was planning to kill N since he has Cofagrigus to bait for Zoroark and his ace counters everything on N's team in the original games. And then in Ultra, he quite possibly did, since he has N's Dragon. (You know how serial killers take possessions from their victims? That's the vibe I get with him having N's Dragon. It's a trophy.)

He's so strong people don't realise and under estimate him.

N/People who are playingB/W for the first time:You're an irredeemable monster! Ghetsis:Oh oh oh what took you so long to figure that out? Idiot!

When i faced him for the first time, I didnt know that he had this much coverage. I was so excited to throw in my favourite little scolipede in the face of his hydreigon... Only for him to get fire blasted 😭

Not only is Ghetsis the best written villain in my opinion I think it took me quite a few playthroughs of BW and BW 2 before i could beat his team on the first try

I've always been low-key, shocked that Game Freak hasn't come near the level of writing and storytelling that Gen 5 had. I understand it is low key because the underlying them was Ideals. But, gosh damn the characters and pokemon were so well made.

Ghetsis is definitely up there as one of my favorite Pokemon characters because of how different he is compared to Pokemon Antagonists that came before him. He's one of the first Antagonists of his type to be introduced in a Pokemon game, and is arguably the best one.

I wonder who would win if Ghetsis, using his Black And White Team and White Kyruem, battled against Volo and his team and Giratina?

To sum up the team he has, it is basically just brute force that easily take down your own pokemon team. His ace is similar to the 4th generation champion, in that it is quite fast and easily oneshot or 2 shot most of your team.

I think Toxicroak can be a monster, but they should've given it dry skin for water types and drain punch for a bit more longevity

Idk if Ghetsis is the strongest villain, but he is one of the most menacing

I have never doubted how strong Ghetsis is and always thought he was the strongest villain but right now I'm conflicted if it's him or AI Sada/AI Turo. Plus, imagine if BW remakes come out this Gen and Game Freak follows ILCA's footsteps. Ghetsis would have: Lvl 54 Perfect IV Hydreigon Ability: Levitate Timid Nature 252 EVs in Sp. Atk and Speed Tera Type: Poison Held Item: Life Orb or Payapa Berry Nasty Plot/Dragon Pulse Dark Pulse Sludge Bomb Earth Power Boom!

Hydergion in black and white a special attacker hydergion. Hydergion in black2 and white2 a physical attacker hydergion.

I think Ghetsis is Stong as Strong as a Cynthia but I feel he got not vary handled well in the Black and white anime as we never see any of his Pokemon nor did we see him battle.

Something to add here is that, in nuzlocke chalenges where you are not alowed to overlevel major boss fights, ghetsis is by far the hardest battle, due to you not having a chance to add new pokemon to your party in case they were defeated by N

I feel like I have an explanation behind underleveled evolved Pokémon. You know how in sun and moon you can get an underleveled Salamance that’s level 4 or something? What if Ghetsis just caught the Hyedriegon when it was underleveled to begin with? That certainly explains how Hydreigon could theoretically be that level.

Ide say he's a worthy Villan in game as well as story I have a copy of pokémon white and I always find myself struggling with him as a battle I definitely appreciate gen 5 overall for the story(it's my favorite gen and ide say arguably the best gen game story wise) and his pure malice overall makes the final confrontation with him bone chilling 10/10 for a villain in pokémon game

Even if you had the counters for him he'll still frick you up somehow. I still remember N doesn't even come close to ghetsis's prowess.

Fun fact: Ghetsis's team is a counter to N's team, every one of his pokemon counter one of n'one,l, he starts with cofagrigus so he can use his ability againts zekrom and reshiram. Ghetsis plan was to deafet N after he deafeted us

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White was my first Pokémon game, and the only thing I remember from the day I beat the game was that my E-4 team was Emboar, Unfeazent, Thunderus, and the Swords of Justice, swapping Thunderus for Zekrom after that fight, and beating N & Ghetsis on my first try.

i find it really interesting how none of his pokemon have any moves to heal or defend themselves except for ONE on his very first one .. i also feel bad for his hydreigon :(

Amusingly, because Hydreigon lacks a Dark type move, one of the best Pokemon to wall it is Reuniclus, a Psychic type, because of its special bulk and not being weak to any of its moves.

Love the video and keep up the great work

I will always remember my first battle with Ghetsis. I will always remember how little me almost shat his pants during the entire battle. And plus his battle music theme is just legendary. I don't think we will ever get a Pokemon villain like Ghetsis again.

Getchis is definitely the wickest character introduced in pokémon games.

He found that Hydreigon in Kalos. I legit found a wild one that jumped out at me from a tree on Victory Road, and it was level 53. I’m totally willing to bet it was there just so GameFreak could claim that he got it legitimately.

The most badass evil team where the hideout you have to battle the elite 4 to reach him...

Especially the music!

Within the first 6 generations of me playing, Ghetsis is the most difficult battle I’ve had. Bar none. That Hydregion was just a bitch to me.

Yeah toxicroak in Ghetsis team is really weak especially when he faces psychic Pokemon.

Man I can't remember my exact team when I faced him for the first time but I beat him. I remember having an actually difficult time. I think it was a decent walk in the park UNTIL he busted out that Hydra. Im pretty sure I had a Lucario, always do if I can. I had a Samurott too that definitely helped me alot in the game. I seriously cant recall the team I had but if it was a good well rounded one, and at a time was kinda fresh to the series.

Can you do a bow strong is Cyrus video ?

The mere idea he is weaker than Giovanni is absurd to me

Unlikely to be overleveled when facing him? I was like ten levels higher than anything he threw at me and he only managed to knock out one of my Pokémon (ironically, the Vanillite I'd trained to take on Hydreigon). Also, Ghetsis wasn't insane in the first game. He was just evil, and so overconfident that he literally had no concept he could lose. He didn't lose his sanity until after that.

His team if at the level of most end game champions( pokemon black and white is unique with the level 50 first league encounters) he would be the only trainer other than Cynthia expie Volo to be an EV and IV monster with his Hydragon being the evil mirror to Cynthia's Garchomp.

Imagine if he actually came back as a Villain for another region! Generally I don't by what the Triad said about him having second thoughts about changing his ways, because the dude has been shown to be truly evil through out the series (minus the anime because there I found him to be disappointing). Plus they don't need to have him with an organization, I could see him becoming a solo one man army.

I'd like to think that any lower leveled pokemon like Hydreigon was somehow caught and evolved in pokemon Go before it was even available for us and that's how we her level 54 Hydreigon and Lances Dragonite

Ghetsis Eelektross gave me so much trouble. I didn't know what type it was. It was an Eel so I used grass neutral damage. It's yellow so maybe electric, used ground no effect. That thing was a problem.

Ghetsis is a definition of a madman.

Ghetsis decided to change his Hydreigon, which is honestly a monster move against casual players, which make up most of the community. My sister got slaughtered by that thing at least 3 times. Meanwhile had zero issue with his BW team.

nice video

Here's how I rank em. Haven't played SV yet so they aren't included: Rainbow Giovanni The other Rainbow team leaders Cyrus Ghetsis Giovanni Lysander Lusamine Archie and Maxie Rose Rose is by far the weakest. He is a worse Lusamine. He runs a company and has a tough team, but he never personally achieves ultimate power. He is incompetent. Archie and Maxie are effectively tied, though Archie is a bit more antagonistic than Maxie. Once they awaken the Legendaries, they almost immediately repent and try to help stop things. Their terrorist groups, while imposing, end up falling flat, and their overall goals seem pretty short-sighted and silly. The Aether Foundation is not really evil, they're just the bad guys. Most of their employees seem to be decent people, but just follow orders. Lusamine is both tough and unhinged and makes a great villain.. in regular Sun and Moon. She also actually achieves her goal. Lysander and Team Flare are inferior versions of Team Galactic and I just can't take them seriously. However, Lysander himself is tough and comes pretty close to accidentally destroying life on the planet. Giovanni is the OG villain and gets a lot of nostalgia points. He's also legitimately threatening, and Team Rocket serves well as a mafia-style organization that actively wants to steal, injure, and even kill. In-game however, their actual goals are a bit of a mystery. I'm not even going to rank Archer in this list because his goal of bringing back Giovanni is really lame, even if they do successfully shut down a second major city. They're the only group to do so. Ghetsis is tough and clearly evil. Team Plasma is a threat, hiding behind altruism. They're also the first bad guys who actually make you stop and think about their goals, or at least their alleged goals. Though he does ultimately try to enslave Kyurem, his lack of interest in the other dragons is kind of galling, and his disinterest in revealing himself as the mastermind hurts him in the end. Cyrus and Team Galactic are by far the most dangerous and successful group in any of the games. They pull off several notable incidents, blow up two lakes, capture the Lake Trio, and enslave the cover legends. Cyrus himself is very strong, and his goal of rewriting reality is very threatening, and he comes very close to doing it. Mechanically speaking, the AU "Rainbow" versions of the team leaders are the strongest versions of those characters. Versions who actually WON in their universe. But they are all bossed around and controlled by Rainbow Giovanni, who put together Rainbow Rocket. That's pretty impressive, having a criminal organization that can CONQUER WORLDS AND TRAVEL TO OTHER REALITIES. Also, he has Mega Mewtwo.

I always think it's funny people saying they were under-leveled with any of the champion fights or villain leaders. I've been playing Pokemon since Yellow and never once had that issue. If anything my Pokemon were always over-leveled. The only exception I guess was training for Red. Hahah I grinded for hours for that, and in Johto, it was so hard to level up your Pokemon at the time. Still it wasn't that hard to level up if you knew what you were doing. Even as I child I had the common senses to know how to train my Pokemon without too much effort.

Ghetsis is definitely my favorite villain and his team, I think maybe after Cynthia he is the most powerful one

Ghetsis' team nearly perfectly counters Cynthia's BW1 team in Undella Town. Every Pokémon of hers is countered by one of his. Those he can't guarantee a win against is accounted for in some either very common strategy or a very uncommon BS strategy. Even then, it also counters Alder's team. And Lance. And Steven. And Wallace. Ghetsis planned to not only defeat N, but any and every champion at the time that could thwart his plans. His team was built to literally take down every possible champion in the series at the time of Gen 5. He was so prepared that he actually thought ahead for the inevitability that other regions' champions would also try to stop him. So, ignoring levels, he rivals champion teams

Volo: I’m literally right here

His stall breaker set is bruuuutal he always checked my stronger special sweepers, a grass sweeper is mandatory for his walls

Dude is tough with a good set of pokemon in black and white but I feel he was nerf in black and white 2.

I would rank Ghetsis in the top 5, maybe around number 5 or 4... If we look at the most challenging villain fights, from my perspective, they are Ghetsis, Volo, Cyrus, N, and Guzma (or Rainbow Rocket Giovanni, who does use a Mega Mewtwo), my ranking would go 5. Guzma, 4. Ghetsis, 3. Cyrus, 2. N, and 1. Volo. If we include Rainbow Rocket Giovanni, then put him at 3, and Cyrus at 5.

G cis best pokemon manipulator

In the remakes, Ghetsis should have Flash Cannon and a Focus Sash on Hydriegon since Fairy types exist now.

Evice from Pokemon Colosseum is harder imo Edit: And before people say he doesn't count as he's in a side game and not the main games. You are wrong. Pokemon Colosseum and XD are needed to complete the entire pokedex in any Gen 3 game. Therefore it is not a side game.

Ghetsis is the most evil, most vile, and most unsympathetic villain in all of Pokémon. He uses the mass’s ignorance to manipulate them, he abuses his adopted son to be able take over the world, and he attempts to kill two people: the protagonist of B2W2 and Lillie in USUM. If the developers went far enough with him he could’ve made Gen 5 rated T

I like Ghetsis. Personally I think his battle music is a bit underwhelming but it was a good fight at least.

I'm sorry but Ghetsis compared to a loy of evil villains is terrifying to me. More than Lysander's plan to basically whipe out human life, see that just seems like thrown together but the way they did Ghetsis, if i met this man in real lfie I'd be scared out of my mind. So definitely the most evil of them all. And most powerful cause his time has been the only team i struggle against constantly no matter what.

Ghetsis is formidable, I’ll give him that.

He's number 1 in every aspect with Pokemon villains. He's the strongest. He's the best. And he's the most evil. And he was the only one to defeat me (unless you count AI Sada but I don't really see her as such)

Imo Ghetsis was underwhelming as a league champion, but he's much more memorable than the likes of Archie/Maxie 2 in Emerald for example because of how well constructed his team was by comparison. I don't think he lives up to Steven Stone though, at least not in raw power. His cunning and immorality was what made him such a great character, and made Giovanni seem like a nice guy by comparison. Maybe some more gimmicks could've translated that better into him as a trainer but I had a harder time *getting to* him than I did *actually beating* him when I played BW and in the second games he was *even easier*

Yes.

I think his team was one of the most well-rounded out of the evil team leaders at that time. But I think it is hilarious that a manipulative person like him has such a brute force approach. Also, considering his weakness to fighting types, using his only counter to them as a starter is very questionable. Hydreigon as an ace is very good, though.

Before watching don't know if the strongest but definitely irreversibly the most evil villain the only one that can be near him is Giovani but Giovani doesn't have as twisted of a personality as Ghetsis imo

Wait ghetsis' 2nd hydreigon is level 52 in bw2 but his first one is 54 so does this mean he abused his 1st hydreigon died. And the second one knew which is why it knew frustration

According to PokeDad's tournament, Lusamine is stronger than Ghetsis. Though it also didn't include Gen IX... xD

I was disappointed when he wasn't the big bad

He may be a powerful villain but a horrible trainer if his Hydriegon has to run Fustration of all moves.

bruh intentional lol

Can you make a Charakter Analyse g cis

Ghetsis is hot

I didnt really have an issue with him. I outleveled him by 10+ levels and my team pretty much one shot his.

"Is Ghetsis The STRONGEST Pokemon Evil Team Leader?" ****YES.**** I am convinced that he is the sole reason (that has nothing to do with Smogon, anyway...) why the Fairy type even exists, and that it's not a coincidence that Hydreigon, a Pokémon that actually out-uglied Whitney's Miltank by an Unova mile in B1/W1, is 4× weak to the type. Thanks to the Fairy type, I was able to snap his Hydreigon's neck like a twig in Ultra Moon!

How is Seismitoad not goofy-looking?

Strongest? Debatable Evilest? Yes

How is strong he?

Eh, he's pretty good. But I think the robo profs are stronger.

MAKE THE BEST TEAM NO RESTRICTIONS HGSS

During Ghetsis fight, his Hydragon was one of my hardest challenge, hydragon out speed my whole time and one shot my whole time and I lost like 7 time lol if any npc manges to do beat me even once, they got my respect

clearly not strong enough for detective gadget

He cheated, he’s not strong cause he early evolved hydreigon

Ghetsis is a hypocrite

Ghetsis isn’t the best as battling. He’s a master tactician.

it just occurred to me: like father like son. N's Zoroark has Night Slash, which can deal with Cofagrigus, Flamethrower for Bisharp, and Focus Blast for Bisharp, Bouffalant and Hydreigon. this mon, if it's lucky enough to pull it off, can take care of 4 out 6 of Ghetsis' mons. on the flip side, Ghetsis' Hydreigon has Dragon Pulse to deal with the legendary dragon, Surf deals with Archeops, Fire Blast destroys Vanilluxe and Klinklang, and Focus Blast takes care of Carracosta, Vanilluxe, Klinklang and Zoroark. their teams are mostly weak to Fighting, and their MVP is a Dark type with Focus Blast which, provided it doesn't miss, deals with basically half of the other's team. see what i mean by like father like son?

Ghetsis: Oh? You are approaching me? Instead of running away, you are approaching? Me: My swords dance boosted Excadrill can't setup without getting closer.

Hot take but ghetsis > N

Cyrus Is Way Better

Wow early 🤯🤯