Who is the Smartest Evil Team Leader? 

........her????

@@shenalkagunasekera2574 Her.

So cruel

Oh....yeah her. Probably the devil incarnate IMO

The haunted girl!?

I wonder if a captured N would ever mention that he had a regent or if that would be something he was trained to never bring up

To never, in all that time, think there was even the slightest possibility that he could lose? That's not a smart move to me. Always have a backup plan, especially if you're plotting for decades.

Yeah I feel like the only bosses younger than him are Guzma and Piers (before someone says Penny, Star isn't evil. Well, Yell isn't evil either but they at least did some bad things).

@@BJGvideos I wouldn't really call Guzma evil either, Team Skull were outcasts, not evil

@@brendanboomhour7606 Guzma was so violent that the rest of the team was terrified of him, and Skull engaged in a kidnapping.

Team Skull took over an entire town. Ousting the entire population

dang, i turn 27 this year. i’m slacking

Ikr, bottom of the barrel for sure. How do you manage ecoterrorism if you haven't even passed basic earth science?

But even then, by far (There isn't even a contest), Lysandre is the dumbest of them all, cuz you already know from the start (And not only the player, Diantha and Sycamore also suspect something is fishy) that he is evil.

Oh totally. The only villain who even comes CLOSE to being as evil as Ghetsis is Purple Eyes from Ranger 3.

Trueee if it were the real world, then the villain would have won right?

Ghetsis "shell" cracks pretty early though, him constantly having to correct himself when he mislips "My Team Plasma" alot for example, and his weakness is that he believes that his intelligence can't be matched, thus he is the one who should guide and control unova, he should be the only person to use pokemon (he raised N and had him bond with one of the two unova legendaries as a deterrent to force people to release their pokemon because he knew a legendary wouldn't choose him) and that his plans are fool proof, but over the course of the story he loses grip on his plans and that's what ultimately gets him in the end, because things happened he didn't expect for all his knowledge. He also underestimates pokemon's feelings greatly, in the B2/W2 manga he vowed he wouldn't quit when he was taken down, but then pretty much was begging to go to jail when he saw tons of pokemon glaring holes at him, since he assumed he could easily control them, but he realized no they ain't having his antics, and likely would tear him apart.

@@dethtroy2185 Not really counting the manga here. Otherwise, it would probably go to Lysandre maybe? Idk. (Flare had this hidden stranglehold on Kalos there. Iirc, the protagonists efforts also went kinda unacknowledged by the civilian Trainers of Kalos too. I remember the ending being rather bittersweet anyway, but it's been a long while since I read it.) And there's a big difference between slipping around us, and slipping around N. He definitely has those character flaws tho, but ultimately, at least in the world where the player doesn't exist, things went off without a hitch apparently. (Aside from Giovanni.) It's also pretty likely he murdered N to get his Dragon, since it was lightly implied in the original BW with Hydreigon being able to counter N's whole team.

If I might say so: I think the second most intelligent villain in the entire Pokemon series as a whole is the one in your profile picture. I mean, yes: Volo isn't a team leader but, the fact he manipulated the player character to trust him as his/her best friend is something no other villain has ever done. And that makes the backstab/betrayal all the worst when it happens.

​@@elizabethazzinaro8457 Yea, I agree that Volo's one of the smartest villains. I didn't even suspect him until he started getting super pushy about the plates in the postgame. Then the conversation in front of the Giratina statue confirmed them. Like, I knew there would be more to him than being a humble merchant, I just thought the Celestica stuff was it. The fact he's your apparent friend thru most of the game, initially the only other person there for you when you got banished, only to find out he's only using you (and would have killed you) really twists the knife all the more.

He's not a leader though

@@BJGvideos good point but he’s still a villain

@@Omar-sg5re Yeah of course he is. But the video specifies evil team leaders. If it was villains in general then maybe (and the professors would qualify as well).

Red Chain. Does Giovanni even know Ash exists for the majority of the story?

@@BJGvideos ....Now that you mention it probably not. But he does know about Pikachu at least. I remember them mentioning Pikachu in their reports

@@jackfdhunter7036 I know in BW they got given a lot of power because they got Gio to believe that they were instrumental in taking down Galactic.

You forgot one in your mention: Volo.

Team Yell was the point I gave up on Game Freaks ability to make a good story anymore

To be fair when Lusamine set up shop in Alola, she didn't have an evil plan yet. That didn't happen until after Mohn was taken by Ultra Beasts

@@jaretco6423 No she wasn't. The toxin didn't remove her free will.

@@jaretco6423 That and you can say Faba played a part in that as well. But Lusamine wasn't truly evil though... she was just misunderstood and confused about Mohn being missing.

Is that a different series?

Masters is not cannon.

Lol. All that effort to conceal your efforts only to have a literal castle to rise out of the ground and be utterly defeated in the next hour. Ghetsis is a manchild who crumbles the moment he hits an obstacle. Also I re-checked Ghetsis' dialogue in USUM and there is no mention or hint of him being the creator of Team RR.

@@ExecutiveSonda to be fair he was close enough to getting his crowning moment and you just happened to be there.

He's also the only villain that was successful twice. Having him manipulate N and beating the Champion, an castle that was once ruled was back & not making one single mistake. Although it didn't last long, he did manage to complete his tasks. And he did it again in Black 2 & White 2 when he has the Fusion core item and used Kyurem to fuse with the other Legendary Dragon and freeze Unova was clever. Again. It didn't last long. But he did it.

@@jaretco6423 That is like saying Nazi Germany won WW2 because they started operation Barbarossa and caught Soviet Union by surprise. Ghetsis' goal was to take over and rule Unova in both games and he failed.

@@ExecutiveSonda he literally was just there and you stopped him minutes from the endgame. He had the storage system under control and everything. Was like stopping someone from pressing the nuke launch.

Rose is held back by his impulsiveness and egomania but yeah, he's a super smart guy. He built Macro Cosmos from nothing (he was born into poverty) and his entire Pokémon team is structured around taking down Eternatus, which means he had to have sussed out what type it was, something that likely wasn't recorded to history.

@@BJGvideos For sure. Ego and impulsivity certainly lead to his own idea. And I do think the potential was there. Especially since his motive was solid. Now, I know he’s not the best antagonist or the most popular, however, the potential was there.

@@Grimmjowluver123 Oh totally. SwSh was good characters wandering around in search of a plot.

@@BJGvideos They’re fun games for sure. At least in my opinion. But yeah, some elements of the plot needed something. Maybe keep the whole Rose wanting prevent the energy crisis, and in his attempt to “make Leon the hero” he maybe turns Leon into the villain. And the MC and Hop have to stop/save Leon.

@@Grimmjowluver123 Twisting a naive person into the villain would be interesting.

The most scientifically intelligent is a bit of a debate because we don't know if the professors created the time machine or just got it working.

@@BJGvideos I actually haven't played S/V yet so lol

​@@BJGvideosdidnt know sada/turo were teamleaders

Thank you! Yes!

In the English dub of the anime they totally gave him a sith type voice

@@BJGvideos He's very devious an cunning, too so I could imagine swapping the two and not much changing

Nah I'd say they were villains. Their plan would have destroyed the ecosystem and they brushed it off as if it was nothing.

He wasn't really the leader since they weren't really all on the same page or anything, they all wanted to carry out their own plots, and Ghetsis was 100% planning on manipulating Giovanni like he did N. (That said, Gio would have definitely caught on to that.) I kinda get the vibe Gio more or less rescued some of them and just left them to their own devices in their rooms. (I think if we had any actual interaction between the bosses in that arc, there would have been an active WAR there by the time the player got there.)

@@13CrystalHeart I kinda hope this whole Rainbow Rocket event will get a special someday, either in the adventures manga or as a special episode of the animated show. Ghetsis trying to manipulate Giovanni is something I really want to see now XD

​​@@c0mpu73rguyThat would be hype. I wish we got more interactions between them in the games, but at the same time, given the conflicting goals and personalities, it probably would be very chaotic. Archie and Maxie were ready to fight upon seeing each other, Cyrus (given his motive that he was abused) would probably despise Ghetsis if he learned about N (who was also emotionally abused), Ghetsis and Giovanni are the sort of greedy, oppressive people Lysandre hates most (to a murderous degree), and then there's already the Giovanni and Ghetsis manipulating each other thing I mentioned. The power plays and backstabbing would really make it fun to watch.

Contests and Musicals would be interesting

Why judge the female leads on their looks...? That's kinda skeevy. Also best female lead is Mitsumi from Diamond and Pearl Adventure don't at me. Or on second thought please at me I love to talk about her.

To be fair, Lusamine also funded the creation of Type:Null, the "godkiller"

​@@BJGvideosMewtwo rivals Rayquaza, who is planetary. The ultra beasts and Silvally are very strong, but not *that* strong.

@@theserpent8667 Wait when did Mewtwo and Rayquaza ever fight?

@@BJGvideos They didn't fight, it's just that they have about the same amount of raw power (planetary destruction).

Fumbled the bag?

He specified EVIL team leader. Star isn't evil.

How so?

Also, Any butchery made to human characters in the series cannot overshadow the extreme butchery done in the execution of gods who were meant to define all of Pokemon lore and the universe(s) they shaped; Pokemon who were meant to be at the very pinnacle in terms of power-level. These Pokemon make digging into the lore feel meaningless at times because the games / movies expressed ridiculous amounts of plot armor against the entire lake trio, creation trio, and Arceus, in a manner either not as present or not as severe as in any other generation's media. Every time I bring this up people are like "isn't every Pokemon story like this?" The answer is no. No other generation gets this ludicrous amount of plot-induced stupidity. For example, in Gen 6's case, Team Flare was able to get a hold of Xerneas/Yveltal by sneaking them into their base while they were sleep. Lysandre tried to get their life energy drained but they eventually woke up on their own, broke free from the weapon, took back their life energy, and showed Lysandre who was boss. - okay that's actually reasonable. In Gen 3, Archie and Maxie raided building after building ran by human communities everywhere in order to gather the resources needed to access the legendary box art. They've obtained the resources and then reached out to Kyogre/Groudon, who then proceeded to break free, go out of control, and show Archie and Maxie who's boss - this is also reasonable. A similar thing happened with BW as with Gen 3 except a legendary Pokemon willingly sided with the main antagonist of the game. N did not attempt to force Reshiram/Zekrom under his control. In B2W2, Kyurem was captured and used. Okay sure, but conceptually, Kyurem is a soulless empty shell of a Pokemon deprived of any motivation to do anything but eat and sleep. It needs help. It needs to see the light in truth or ideals in order to gain the motivation to do something. This is a reasonable explanation for how Kyurem managed to get captured and used by Team Plasma in B2W2. Additionally, Kyurem was designed to be nowhere near the level of deities that control time, space, or all of existence. Kyurem is just able to freeze the world with ice. Not shape up entire universes or define the entire nature of Pokemon as we know it. In Gen 7 the only legendaries captured by human antagonists were baby Pokemon. Aside from that, Necrozma managed to get control of Solgaleo/Lunala but Necrozma was designed to be a force above them anyway. Gens 1 and 2 didn't really use their legendaries much in the plot aside from making them glorified trophies. Gen 9 turned their legendaries into glorified regular Pokemon with little substance. Gen 8 simply had legendary Pokemon do their jobs. Nothing more. Team Galactic were actively messing with Pokemon gods, whether it was Uxie, Azelf, Mesprit, Palkia, or Dialga. Almost all of them canonically had the power to see what Galactic were doing well ahead of time and intervene. All 5 of these Pokemon had every capability possible to avoid the situations they were stuck in. Uxie could dismantle Team Galactic just by opening its eyes and even know what Galactic were doing before the team even reached it. Azelf can manipulate or remove their will, even control them for its own desires. Mesprit could play around with their emotions. All 3 could've done the exact same thing they usually do when you see them; just randomly disappear into somewhere far away. They could have done that to escape as the very last resort if that was ever needed, which it wasn't. Dialga is the embodiment of time. The literal nanosecond it appeared out of its portal it could have ended up in 50 different points of time simultaneously to stop Team Galactic from ever getting a hold of the Red Chain. Palkia could've just erased Cyrus within that same timeframe. Giratina was just shoehorned into the same climax as DP to save the day, with no real explanation until [B]13 years[/B] later with Legends Arceus.

@@Garde_Mystik Meant to be according to who?

@@BJGvideos serving as the embodiment of all space and time and/or being able to handle Pokémon serving in that role makes these creatures above every Pokémon but Arceus

@@Garde_Mystik Doesn't necessarily power scale them or make them invulnerable. Even Arceus isn't untouchable.

Maybe aside from Botch and Cassidy, his other employees were worse.

FR

Star isn't an EVIL team though.

First off: Team Star isn't an evil team. However, using that argument, the Aether Paradise wasn't an evil team either, we just had Lusamine being evil (And Faba to a lesser extent, but then we had Wicke to counter that).

@@nickdentoom1173 Idk they had that science division that was more than willing to engage in very wicked tests

And she's even younger than Cyrus. Her brain is enormous and it's not even fully developed. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't she accomplish the second goal BECAUSE of the player?

LOL maybe

I mean, that has to be Lysandre... since you can smell something is fishy from a mile away (Even Diantha and Sycamore do).

How? They were perfectly fine with their plan causing an ecological disaster, dismissing it as just a part of life. That's villain shit.

The Hoenn ecoterrorists who failed basic earth science and took out their divorce on the rest of the region gotta be the dumbest bosses.

Got to be Archie. Literally contradicts himself with his goals. Yeah lets increase the words oceans by flooding the planet with the power of Kyogre... Oh no Kyogre is flooding the planet i got it wrong player please stop Kyogre 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@BJGvideos Lysandre is right there though. Even Diantha and Sycamore suspect something is fishy.

@@nickdentoom1173 And then proceed to do absolutely nothing about it.

Aether isn't a cult.

@@BJGvideos kinda feels like it is fine if not a cult then a company built upon false pretense that is actually an evil mad scientist organization that puts pokemon into suspended sleep as a menagerie to perform ultra space studies. People totally were considering Aether foundation as some salvation for pokemon but that was not at all how it was.

Lusamine isn't evil though, neither is Guzma. Both are just misunderstood characters. If we need to mark someone in SUMO evil, its probably Faba (He gets demoted for a reason).

@@nickdentoom1173 Lusamine may not be inherently evil at her core, but she did INEXCUSABLY evil things during her bout with madness. She got better and worked to atone for what she had done, but the scars of her actions are going to remain in especially her children for the rest of their lives.

@@BJGvideos I mean, thats true. But that doesn't mean she is evil, just that she has a dark side (Just like Guzma, who isn't evil either). Lysandre was the last true Evil character in the games until Turo and Sada.

Team Yell is far worse. They are just a bunch of Marnie stans

⁠​⁠@@turboshazed7370 The funny part about team star is that the dark leader looks exactly like gumza from team 💀 skull

Because they do something different and aren’t carbon copies of other teams?

The team yell people when in their gym trainer uniform is an image which haunts my nightmares. Thank goodness they never disbanded so I don't have to look at gym trainer Joshua ever again

@@101Youfail it is the hairstyle that reminds me of guzma

Guzma has street smarts. He's also not a complete idiot like I can say for a pair of Hoenn ecoterrorists

@@BJGvideos True True

Team Skull technically isn't even an Evil Team anyways, since all the members are just misunderstood. Team Skull appears in Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon. As revealed by some of their members, Team Skull is composed of misfits who failed the island challenge. They steal Pokémon from people, but unlike previous villainous teams, they do not have a specific goal other than to cause trouble and acquire enough money to support themselves. In stark contrast to previous villainous teams, they do not pose a serious threat to the wellbeing of Alola and its residents, the majority of whom consider them thuggish nuisances at worst. We haven't gotten a true evil team since gen 6 (Team Yell, Team Star, Team Skull, Aether Foundation and Macros Cosmos aren't exactly evil teams either, its just their bosses that are evil and then with Macros Cosmos, they only fight the player character and Hop, not because they are evil, but because they are told to do so by Oleana, who isn't evil either, just devoted to Rose. Its basically the same for Aether Foundation and Team Skull (Guzma is literally manipulated by Lusamine, who herself isn't truly evil either). If we need to talk about dumb leaders/villains, its probably Lysandre thats the dumbest, considering both Sycamore and Diantha also suspect something is fishy, but they cannot actually pinpoint what it is. Heck, the evil villains in the games aren't the evil leaders, its the professors, Mustard and his wife honey. This is due to the professors and Honey only saying you can choose only one starter Pokemon (Locking you out of the other 2, which especially is a nuisance obtaining them in early games) and Mustard only gives you one Kubfu, while their are 2 forms.

Lysandre and Colress are good at what they do though. That's far more than anybody can say for the Muskmelon