Is Gordon Ramsay's Masterclass any good? 

You are much too kind. Everything in this paid course is available free online and every criticism you point out is absolutely valid, especially him throwing the bacon fat and butter away.

I signed up for master class last year and took most of the cooking classes. Here are my thoughts. I found the Mexican cooking class the most useful. I now regularly make my own homemade tortillas. Thomas Keller was the best teacher. Gordon Ramsey made dishes that I would never make at home, but dropped nuggets of wisdom throughout the course Roy Choi made food that you are most likely to make at home. If you were to start with a class, then start with Roy Choi.

I would actually have to disagree with you on the salmon part. As a Norwegian, if I want fish I will usally go for salmon, and I would love to be able to just buy a whole salmon but too scared to mess it up, so I think him showing how to prepare a big fish like that is very usefull. I would aldo think I could transfer that knowledge to say a big cod, which we fish a lot of up north with my family. I have rarly seen and/or cooked with smaler types of fish here unless I go and fish for it myself

@@nordicstorm9666 I mean for one you're Norwegian, you come from pretty close to where the salmon live which makes it much more accessible. Not everyone has that privilege. Secondly most people in the world when they buy a fish or catch one, it is not a massive one like this. Sure the technique is largely the same but showing it on a smaller more globally accessible type of fish would have been far more useful for more people.

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yeah, you only need sea urchin

Yeah that's my interpretation too.

sea urchin is dirt cheap at the asian market. @@MrDukeSilverr

@@MrDukeSilverr Getting sea urchin is more of a money topic than a skill or equipment topic. Unless where you live its impossible to buy but even then you just gotta substitute.

Lol yeah, Mikes kitchen is practically a professional kitchen at this point. Less like a real home kitchen

Thomas Keller is the best masterclass because he does ALL TECHNIQUES. Explains everything. If you learn these, with a bit of creation in your mind for ingredients you can cook everything.

Do you have to pay to have those videos every month? Is it like a subscription?

@calebchristian404 yeah it's $180/ year

I agree. My personal trainer's dad chopped off his finger and had to have it reattached. It's definitely more common than normal people would think.

I think Mike was just trying to imply there were better ways to convey the sentiment, since the way Gordon words it could be enough to scare cooks--especially less-experienced cooks--out of wanting to handle knives altogether, and knowing how to cut things well is an essential skill for any kind of cook.

Yeah I chopped the tip of my thumb off slicing an onion lol

My grandma taught me how to use knives. First thing she taught me was the proper technique of holding whatever you were chopping. "If you came in with 10 fingers, you better go home with 10 fingers". Second thing, how to use the proper knife for everything "We don't use a bread knife to gutt fish, because we are not savages."

He's staying pretty true to form I'd say. In the beginning of his career, he was all about the George Forman grill. Now he's got a new favorite appliance. This dudes channel is geared more towards beginners. People who are more experienced in the kitchen wont gain much from this channel besides a small amount of entertainment value

Yes please🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

yes

Yeeeessss!

No. Marco Pierre white, the godfather of cooking next, plz

I watched both Ramsey and Kellers videos. I found Kellers video series much more relatable and transferable to the home cook. Kellers video’s definitely improved my cooking techniques, knowledge, and skills.

And if anyone wants easy at home vids, his Ramsey in 10 videos. Big difference than the type of recipes in the master class.

@@tasiabird4176 as well as being free and much more relaxed

yea it's called masterclass for a reason. not pro home chef class...which is literally this channel

Thanks for the Ramsey in 10 recommendation, reminds me a bit of his ultimate cookery course (which is also great). I think you hit the nail on the head regarding target audiences.

@@zaymax_7 Yeah, I do not know why he has all this arbitrary expectations and criteria for judging the masterclass. When it is Gordon Freaking Ramsay and it is a Masterclass. It is like watching a DIY masterclass by one of the top woodworkers in the world, and expecting him to see how to make a basic chair. I was really confused by this video, like what was he expecting?

That bit about the dull side of the foil was a red flag for me, lol!

If anything, from a physics perspective, it would be the opposite where the shiny side traps the heat in better. Shiny, light coloured materials absorb and emit far less radiant heat than a dark, matte coloured surface

Side only matters for nonstick foil,

Yeah, my first thought was, "Give me the science on that, Gordon."

What about Mercury and bad Stuff on foil. You have to detox It because it is bad for the Brain can you get dementia and other bad stuff( look medical medium AW). No joke!

The funny thing is pro home cooks is so like that to me. The dishes and recipes he makes on this channel I can never use because I live in Nigeria and I use different techniques and ingredients in cooking. I just watch some of his videos for entertainment and the occasional technique. So to me it felt weird for picking apart something your channel is guilty of to me…

yeah exactly 😅

Gordon is _very_ serious about his omelettes BTW 😊 But I understand what you are saying.

Masterclass is not worth it. You can find practically everything on RU-vid and other places for free. this master class stuff is a joke

@@ibbyseed Agreed. The days of celeb chefs is crashing down. Find subject matter experts. Want to cook Italian... watch vincenzo's plate. want french and other general content, watch Alex, French guy cooking. For french food, also get the english version of Le Guide Culinaire. Want MURICAN... Sam the cooking guy, and the plethora of bbq smokers out there.

I'd say massimo bottura masterclass is the best

I poach eggs frequently. Poached eggs on wilted spinach make a great breakfast or lunch.

I've subscribed to masterclass for 3-4 years. I don't really know why I still am subscribed because I almost never make the food from the videos. That said the food that I have made has been delicious and, often, quite easy to make. The best items from all the classes are a simple Goan Style shrimp from maddhur jeffry, and black orange. Think black garlic but with an orange. The flavor is insane.

@wrigley60 both educators have their arena where they are strongest. They should BOTH hoe their own row.

thanks for the feedback! will do

Slikviq: Watches video from Pro Home Cooks Also Slikviq: WHY IS HE TAKING THE PRO HOME COOKS PERSPECTIVE????

​@@jamesdean5095: Reads comments Also @jamesdean5095 : Disagrees with an actual valid critique but is unable to articulate an actual counter argument.

@@Slikviq The fact you think your comment was a valid critique and yet my response was not a counter argument speaks volumes. To spell it out: Pro Home Cooks has an extremely clear philosophy on cooking. He analysed a piece of work from that perspective, for his audience, as that is a relevant thing to do. You got upset about that. That's silly.

@@jamesdean5095 Much of his critiques are nitpicking small things that someone does differently than him. This video isn't for his audience, it's for food youtubers.

As a neighbor Swede I agree. Got inspired to try out my diy knife skills on a fresh salmon for tomorrows dinner.

This is what I was trying to say. But I wasn't nearly as adept at it. There was more than a little jealousy in his tone of voice and I get the Impression from his video that he was using his channel as a way to get a tax break for ordering these master classes.

@@grlnexdoorable I don’t think jealous is the right word choice. He just interpreted the course as something for the everyday home chef who was learning basic techniques and there’s no need for all the extra fluff with exotic ingredients that isn’t relatable at all for the average person. I do agree with the previous commenter in saying that the course isn’t really geared towards new chefs and towards those who have been cooking for a whole

@wrigley60 Pro home cooks is definitely not a competitor to Gordon Ramsey. Both of these courses serve their target audience. Quite well, there are a lot of people who would be a lot worse off if they had not been watching pro home cooks to learn how to be efficient in their kitchen. Most people just watch Gordon Ramsay for fun.

This comment absolutely nails it. No value was added in this video - instead, it was an arbitrary critique that disregarded the content solely because of personal preference and bias. I guess this channel is moving more in the direction of reaction videos instead of educational or food content. I agree, Mike could have synthesized Gordon's material for a home cook... but alas, this video was a very stark departure from his usual attitude toward food. Where is the passion for learning about culinary techniques and traditions different than yours? *That* is what turns people away from cooking. If he reviews Keller or anyone else, I can skip that video as it will be the same critique as seen here. Disappointed in the sharp turn this video has taken. It's clear it isn't about the food anymore, it's about clicks, clout, and competition.

I agree, and I’d even go so far as to say that ProHomeCooks isn’t even ideal for a home cook. The video that I consider as the gold standard is Forget the Set: All you need is a 10inch pan. As well as basically any video Lucas Sin appears in. There are also a couple Chinese focused youtube chefs who I would also consider but they only cook Chinese food. The reason why Chinese chefs are so good is because most of them grew up with a very limited set of tools and ingredients. Their entire kitchen consists of a Vegetable Cleaver, a Wok and a clay/ceramic pot. What I really love about Lucas Sin is because his videos are structured to teach the viewer a technique. Every other youtube food video only cares about the final result. Its very much like teaching someone to fish versus giving them a fish. Learning 1 recipe is not helpful as a home cook. You need to learn techniques in order to build confidence in the kitchen and not constantly worry about following a recipe. I almost feel like food youtubers should focus more on everything but the food. Like the main reason people are hesitant to cook at home is because they are intimidated by all the gadgets and the time that it takes to make food. However cooking is so easy if you build certain cleaning habits and only use like 5 tools in the kitchen. (1pot, 1pan, 1nonstick, 1knife, and a rice/pressure cooker). I think this simplification of tools is incredibly useful, because when you have less tools it becomes obvious which tool to use for each job. I feel like home cooks get paralyzed thinking about what the right way to cook something is, or which pot or pan they should use. When you have less tools you become an expert as using those tools because you are forced to use them more frequently, the easiest way to learn is through trial and error and high volume usage of something over short periods of time. I also think cleaning the kitchen doesn’t take a lot of time or effort as long as you know what you are doing. Too many people get overwhelmed in the kitchen and don’t clean as they go, plus they build very bad habits like soaking pans overnight in the sink. The easiest way to make sure that you never feel motivated to cook at home is if you have to clean the pots/pans in the sink before you can even start cooking. The only way to get better at cooking is to do it everyday. The actual food and recipes you make are almost irrelevant to your growth as a home cook, and yet food youtubers are mostly just focused on the recipes.

This is so true, I used to find things very easy to learn but now I've gotten to a point that the fear of messing up tends to stop me trying things or putting it off until I have no choice but to rush it because I no longer have any other option. Logically, I know its normal to mess up but I find knowing something to be true and applying it to yourself are very different things

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