Is Halo Wars' Vulture a TRUE Successor to the AC-130? 

The Vulture is the answer to the question "If you have a ship that can carry a tank, why not put guns on the ship?".

Hornets = little birds Falcons = Blackhawks Wasps = AH64 Apaches Pelicans = C-130 transports Vultures = AC- 130 gunships Longswords = Long Range bomber Sabers= multirole fighter bombers Love how everything has a real world equivalent or inspiration

I believe the vulture looks the way it does with the wings because it’s literally a retrofitted pelican, which gives it more connection with irl gunships and their evolution of a guy looking at a plane and going “hmm yes put big gun on it”

I would say that the halo wars 1 vulture behaves even more like a gunship because it actually uses its vertical launch missiles in a more meaningful way against armour targets that 20mm can’t penetrate.

The Conder seems more like the UNSC equivalent to the AC130 while the Vulture is more of a Apache or Mi-35 helicopter.

To me, the Vulture is what happens when you mix an AC style aircraft with something like the V-22 Osprey, and then bulk it up a lot. The ability to hover rather than orbit is what makes me think that it's somewhere between AC gunship and heli/tiltwing. Actually, that's a thought, a V-22 Osprey Gunship.

You know what a cool video idea would be the hunter chopper from half life 2 and how compares to modern helicopters

Things I have never understood in halo, lack of SAW, GPMG style weapons. Anti armor weapons, grenade launchers, or IDF assets.

The AC-220 weighs just a little less than a fully loaded B-52, at about 2/3 the size of an AC-130, height and width wise. The A-74 Sylver vertical launch silos firing a single internally reloaded Anvil-IV air-to-surface missile is definitely a step ahead of what we have now, before we started to roll it into full production, long range ASMs on large air support artillery gunships isn't a new concept, but I do enjoy that it takes that idea and refits it, literally.

I read the AC-130 as ARC-170(star wars) and wondered how , and watched the whole video , got to say worth it 🏁

UNSC vehicles are theme named after animals so calling it a vulture is well within the naming convention spirit in-universe.

This video is more accurate on the J models then most educational gunship videos. Well done

i would take note of the fact that if i recall correctly in one of the comics (escalation i think?) vultures were able to engage broadswords, which, are fighters, meaning their movement while still not the best is LARGELY nerfed by gameplay (like...most pieces of weaponry in halo games actually) and is capable of limited dogfighting with a craft MUCH older and better equipped. They didn't win in the end iirc but the fact they could even *try* should give them some credit.

US Gunships is also a somewhat broad term as it includes any Helicopter that can provide fire support, such as UH-1 Huey's with rocket pods

Love your videos man, so glad I found your channel it's like a diamond in the rough. Always love how much info there is and how it ties things back to the real world. Also loved that flood video lol, keep up the great work bro

The AC-220 Vulture is actually armed with between 4-8 A-74 Sylver Vertical Missile Launcher , 4-8 Anvil-IV Air-to-Surface Missile launchers , 4x 20mm GAU-23/AW/Linkless Feed Autocannon , 18 Argent missile pods and Phoenix Missiles which are carried on the underbelly of the Vulture. So it has a larger number of missiles systems than you mentioned. Just saying. Oh and in universe it's not as slow as it is in the games considering it is a jet aircraft. As can be seen by the jet exhaust coming from the craft.

You ever consider doing a video comparing how the US military would stack up against the UNSC in a fight?

Love your videos I didn't realize how small the channel was! Can't wait to see your channel grow your making great content keep it up

I like the name Klabautermann for the Vulture 😶

And people think they got blue balled with the pelican

Some suggestion for future videos (I posted this in other videos' comments): - Absurd lack of mortars in Halo (During WW2, mortars are the biggest infantry killers. See TIK's videos on the Eastern Front. Mortars would work well against hordes of foot mounted Covenants like Unggoys, etc as well as the Flood, but the UNSC don't use them) - Spacesuits and vacuum rated helmets in Halo are unrealistic. My problem with spacefaring human militaries in science fiction is how they always get spacesuits wrong. Spacesuits are practically a one-man spacecraft on itself. They are fat and bulky because of the need to store oxygen, protect against debris, as well as pressurization, the need to maintain constant volume inside the spacesuit, as well as the need to be basically a one-man spacecraft on itself. Even if they are skintight they should be rather thick - At the very least they must be as thick and skin tight as this sm.ign.com/ign_es/screenshot/default/cod-infinite-warfare-mp-rig-stryker_3y5n.jpg 3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dfx0C_3lL2I/WDpARjcuzkI/AAAAAAAADs0/jR8MKZWQrX4UrOvaZUvpt0d2dUDyN4fGgCEw/s1600/RIGS_stryker_A_gfx_03.jpg i.imgur.com/5ZxSv67_d.jpg?maxwidth=2560&shape=thumb&fidelity=high halo.wiki.gallery/images/a/a8/Halo-A-Hero-Falls-Spacewoman.png Also, the helmet is unrealistic because it's really hard to make vacuum seal with neck exposure like that. The helmet should cover to the neck and attaches directly to the suit, neck shouldn't really be exposed. Something like the Interstellar helmet, at least. Or, in Haloverse, see the Hellbringer's helmet.) - IRL militaries are not as "stingy" in regards of armor and BDU as the UNSC. Regular Marines' armor are practically just series of Level III / III+ titanium plates - that were even more primitive than our 21st century boron carbide + UHMWPE ESAPI plates, while even ODST armor are far more advanced. You can even see this in the 21st century militaries - regular Marines now wear equipment that are special operations' gear on the 2000s. Real life militaries would make ODST armor and BDU standard issue to all UNSC personnel and make SPIs standard issues to reconnaisance units and ODSTs. ODST armor has been in vogue since Insurrection. - Mere orbital drop are just 26th century version of Airborne school. ODSTs has been in vogue since the Interplanetary wars, and really aren't that complicated to use. Considering the ship based deployment of UNSC Marines you would think orbital drops can and should be used by regular Marines as a way to mass drop entire divisions to battle, akin to WW2 Parachute Regiments. Also, I want to expand more about SPARTAN's being redundant in your first 2 videos: There are 7 types of special operations' jobs: Direct action, special reconnaisance, civil affairs, psy ops, combat control (I put TACP / JTAC as well as ANGLICO as part of combat control), CSAR, unconventional warfare. SPARTANs can't be used for anything that has interaction with civilians, but even then there's still CSAR, direct action, special reconnaisance and combat control. Plus we saw SPARTANs operate every weapon & vehicle you can dream of ("operate every weapon" is probably similar to Green Beret's Weapons Sgts). Also, Jerome-092 is shown are capable to be an acting commander in the field (officer side it would be a CWO level). If what you want are just direct action units, yes SPARTANs are redundant (except SPARTAN IVs and Orion project). But if what you want is "trained in every aspect of warfare" as per lore, maybe not. In fact I would say if what you want is "trained in every aspect of warfare" as per lore, SPARTANs should graduate not in their teens, but at 21-22 years old similar to knighthood age. Why? Pilot training takes 1. 5 to 2 years. Operating a vehicle takes 1-2 weeks of training, but I imagine operating Mantis would take like 1-2 months. Astronaut's basic training is like 1. 5 years (not including advanced training and mission specific training).

nice soundquality my man. di you improve your setup, oder change your mic booth? ) good stuff sending all the blessings from germany

I’ve gotta say the us knows how to kill the enemy in the most devastating ways an ac 1 fucking 30 is the pinnacle of the us artillary

Cortana play Fortunate Son

Geist is just the german name for ghost

Dude, how many times have you change the thumbnail?

So belly turrets and top turrets are on more planes than not on planes check out the b-17

If the pelican is a ch53 then this thing is a ah1z viper

F****** tank shooting in the air LOL

The true successor to the AC-130 are the MAC cannon armed Infinity class ships where they got not 1, NOT 2, NoT 3, but like 5 effing MAC cannons that can hit targets through atmosphere and HIT WITH ENOUGH FORCE to change geography 🤣

Phantom or shade is not a good name for it,plus it is already take and does not fit the theme of them the vulture gives a striking appearance and unsc does not exactly name vehicles after spirits and stuff a few are named but rarely like the cyclops

No, the Vulture is a close range heavy weapons platform that is so freaking slow it requires a lot of support, either ground or air, to be truly effective, otherwise guerrilla tactics and enough volume of fire will down that ludicrous piece of shit out of the sky.

I like how this video is a mix of real world history lesson and halo lore lesson

Well all the unsc aircraft are named after flying animals (falcon, hornet , pelican etc) and vultures are carrion eaters so the name sort of fits with the gunship tradition

I’d definitely say the Condor acts like an AC130

I think Vulture is a successor to actual attack helicopters. Yes, there are Wasps, Hornets and Sparrowhawks, but Vulture is the one with legitimate weapons (I think ANVIL IV should be ATGM missiles (judging from the concept art). Successor to AC-130 would be Pelican or Condor gunships.

I’d say look into the ACH-47A I think they have more in common honestly with the AC-220 and the G81 condor only reason I’m bringing up the ACH-47A chinook is because we at least for gameplay reasons only see the 220 and G81 moving and acting more so in a helicopter loitering role then a gunship orbit. Trust me the attack chinook is a fun little read!

is it weird if I see the Vulture a bit more like a 25th century version of the very concept of the Mi-24 Hind?

But the vulture is a fitting name that combines the nomenclature traditions of both the modern USAF and the fictional UNSC. The USAF use figures associated to death with their gunships and the UNSC uses earth animals. The vulture is both an animal and a figure associated to death

putting a 105mm on a plane is still one of the funniest things the military's has done god bless America

one thing they all have in common is they would never be usable in contested airspace, so its a tyoical colonial type of weapon made for fighting insurgents and not a near or peer miltary.

Successor? More like descendent. Halo takes place 500 years from now. At least 5 generations of aircraft between the AC130 and the Vulture.

New video idea for you, if you so choose: How realistic are the ODSTs - SOEIVs, deployment methods, what have you Keep up the good work

Before watching the video - in short yes it is.

Have you done one in the condor?

The Vulture would have to pack SO MUCH MORE to be compared to the AC-130. Yes, It has a giant missile in Halo Wars 2, but so what? The cannon on the AC-130 gets the same reasult with EACH SHOT, plus everything else that deadly monstruosity packs. It is surely more versatile, but still is a severe nerf in destruction power per unit.